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Chris

Thanks for replying , Yeah I miss worded that, In another God. I have gotten enough info on this site to look at it a different way, I have worshipped Jesus my whole life (60) , It was when reading the Torah, I was perplexed, I didn't see God letting anyone share space with him as god, But was given the very first sentence saying Elohim (meaning God or Gods, if Plural) But also as one.God sent me to the right place, Thank you and everyone else on this site for helping, and now I know where to go.

the Judgment Seat of CHRIST; Rom. 14:10= This expression occurs only twice in the New Testament ( Rom. 14:10; 2Cor. 5:10).

Distinguish this Judgment Seat, before which only redeemed saints will stand, from that Judgment described as the "Great White Throne" Judgment, before which only the unredeemed "dead" will stand (read Rev. 20:11-14). These two Judgments are not one and the same.

The expression "Judgment Seat" translates from the Greek noun root (transliterated "bema"; pronounced "BAY-ma"). LORD JESUS CHRIST will preside upon this Judicial Throne, and from which HE will Judge HIS saints according to their works, "whether good or bad", while living upon the earth ( 2Cor. 5:10).

This Judgement Seat will not determine the saints' Salvation or even their qualifications to enter Heaven, for that was set at the moment of confession and belief in JESUS CHRIST as their LORD and SAVIOR. This Judgment will determine what rewards or losses every individual saint will receive or suffer according to their works (cp. 1Cor. 3:13-15).

Amen Philip.

spot on!! And welcome back.

God bless.

Regarding Hebrews 8:5 = GOD commanded Moses to construct the Old Testament Tabernacle as the instrument of HIS presenting HIMSELF to Israel ( Exo. 25:22; cp. 30:6 & 36):

"There I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the Mercy Seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the Ark of the Testimony, of all things which I will give thee in Commandment unto the children of Israel."

This verse ( Heb. 8:5) records three terms which demonstrate the purpose and value of the Old Testament Levitical Priesthood and of the Tabernacle that GOD commanded Moses to replicate on earth. These terms provide a comprehensive perspective "figure" ( Heb. 9:9) of that which is "of Heavenly Things".

1st, they served as "the example of Heavenly Things", meaning an exact copy or reproduction of the original and "True Tabernacle, which The LORD pitched, and not man" (v.2). Compare the terms "figure", "pattern", and "fashion" in the following references: Exodus 26:30; 27:8; Numbers 8:4; Acts 7:44; and Hebrews 9:9;

By design, the example demonstrates the purpose and value of the original. This example is not a counterfeit, but rather a replication of the actual Heavenly Tabernacle which speaks of the saints dwelling in the very Presence of CHRIST ( Rev. 13:6; 15:5; 21:3).

2nd, they served as a "shadow of Heavenly Things", meaning it only typified, symbolized, represented, and pointed to the Heavenly Tabernacle. A literal shadow is intangible which reveals simply the outline or profile of the actual object. The earthly Tabernacle simply revealed "a figure for the time then present."

3rd, they served as GOD's earthly "pattern" which was enforced only temporarily until CHRIST established HIS "more Excellent Ministry" (v.6) as exclaimed in Hebrews 10:9-12.

jesus said before Abraham I was, jesus has no beginning nor no end

Can someone please explain Job 38:31-33. Who are the Pleiades, Orion and the Mazzaroth. Who are they and how do they play into everything???

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Thank you also, It seems God sent me to the right place.

S Spence

THANK YOU FOR THAT !!! That's what I was looking for and the very 1st sentence, I have NEVER heard this before, somehow.

Do you think in Ezekiel was talking about it being from the north meaning heaven or just where his vision appeared from

Replying to Mr. Glenn comment, I don't know if you meant to say it is the Spirit never get old or older, and the Spirit never ages. The body do get old, and it does changes, the body houses the spirit, it is the body that changes on the outside, were the Spirit remain the same, Just like Our Creator, He never changes He always remain the same, and I pray to be just like Him on earth until He transition me home with Him, Amen. GOD Bless you. GOD IS LOVE.

Jim That's another interesting observation to me who said the clothing made for Adam and Eve was a lamb

its like who ever said they ate an apple, but again our imaginations try to speak louder than scripture to our

detriment. When we elevate our natural based thinking and apply to scripture then we start well maybe God

mean't this or that when in reality that's questioning what it states and working by assumption instead of

letting Gods Word speak for itself. There are many things written that are in the category of we DON"T KNOW

and why were not supposed to. But we do know 2 Timothy 3:16+17 and that says a lot.

Grace These are things deemed by the Lord as unclean for a specific reason, many things that were written in the

law because He's God and always had a beneficial purpose for His laws. Also many forbidden practices he knew were

pagan practices. I've never read the book of maccabees.

The parable of the sower and his precious seed is the Word spoken unto us as in Matthew 13....And in Psalms 82 David said I have said ye are Gods which is the result of the words Jesus is gonna speak unto us..( When the book is opened )the seeds of the sower are th very seeds of God...Thats y Jesus is saying to whom his words came it made them Gods....Simply b/c we are all gona be married to God that great marriage of the lamb and God, As a young man marries a virgin shall thy sons ( THE H.G. ) marry thee and as the bridgegoom rejoices over the bride so shall thy GOD rejoice over thee, a marriage is when 2 are made 1 as Christ and the Church.. As Jesus made his spit ( his Words ) 1 with the ground humanity the Church whosoever will..... When Daniel saw the words of wonder, God told him that these words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end....No salvation or kingdom can come till the woman births the Children as in Rev 12 : 10 kjv...Now is come salvation and the Kingdom of our God and the POWER OF HIS CHRIST ( HER BABY ) WHICH IS THE H.G...The manchild that is gonna rule all nations...The spirit of truth that Jesus said was gonna reprove the whole world of sin and righteousness and judgement .

You may find what you're looking for in Genesis 1:1. In the beginning Elohim created the heaven and the earth.

Elohim is used in the plural form.

Genesis 1:26. And Elohim said, Let "US" make man in "OUR" image, after "OUR" likeness: The us and our being used here is embodied in the Elohim. They're not angels. Angels did not assist in making man but the word of God did!!

John 1:1-3. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Elohim is used throughout until you get to Genesis 3:21. Unto Adam also and to his wife did the "LORD God" make coats of skins, and clothed them.

After he made coats of skin from that day forward I believe he uses the covenant name LORD GOD "YHWH ELOHIM."

In Genesis 3:15. we come to the seed of the woman. That's a reference and title to the Lord Jesus Christ. The term itself is a contradiction Biologically and according to the Hebrew grammar. Biologically the seed is of the man. BUT JESUS WASN'T CONCEIVED BY MAN!! Jesus wasn't tied to Adam genetically. He was the 2nd Adam directly out of the bosom of the Father, meaning out of Everlasting. He's part of the Elohim.

In the Hebrew Genealogies the seed always referenced the man but Jesus Genealogy links directly to God. That's why it doesn't say seed of Adam.

In the Torah Moses referred you to him.

Deuteronomy 18:18-19.

Acts 7:37-38.

And this is how Jesus refer to himself,

Revelation 1:8. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

As Moses said, "Like unto me, Hear you him.

God bless.

And in Hebrews 1 : 8 KJV But unto the SON he said thy Throne O GOD IS FOREVER....And in Matthews 1 God says this is my beloveth SON in whom I am well PLEASED.....Here again the bible is refering to Christ as God the Son....Unto the SON he says THY THRONE O GOD IS FOREVER.....Read it and weep Satan

Apologies Billy. I read your comment to Adam in a different way.

You're correct, Jesus' Name is not seen there in John 1:1-14, but who then is John the Apostle writing about? I can't think of anyone else that fits that description. John wrote about the Word of God: that which was with God & God Himself (v1). This Word was involved in creation (vv3,10) - notice John begins to use a pronoun (He, Him) describing this Word. In this Word was both Life & Light (v4). When John the Baptist arrived on the scene, he bore witness of that Light (v7). That Word Who was with God & was God, was made a man & lived the life of a man (v14). That Word came to His Own people but they rejected Him (v11), but those who received Him were made sons of God (v12). These are not separate accounts; this whole passage is consistent in its subject matter & implications.

This passage of Scripture is talking about God's Word. It's not about Apostle John or John the Baptist, or anyone else. The only Person Who could fit the bill is God's Word, Jesus Christ: He is the only One Who could be the giver of Life & Light & be the Creator of all things (also Colossians 1:15-17). He is the Only One Who could ask His Father ( John 17:5: "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I HAD WITH thee before the world was."). He is the only One Who could state ( John 6:38: "For I CAME DOWN from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me."). And He is the only One Who could tell the Jews ( John 8:58: "Verily, verily, I say unto you, BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM.").

I always wonder how folk consider these verses that I've shared here. I'm sure Jesus is not lying to us by saying those things. Do people read those verses as I do or in some other way that I'm missing? Or, should we determine that since the incarnation is 'impossible', therefore all these Scriptures are meaningless? Even if Christ's Deity is hard to understand, we can't simply reject it.

In Gal. 3 : 16....Now unto Abraham and his seed were the Promises made, But he said not unto seeds plural but unto 1 seed which is Christ...Thus its Christ that is gonna be multiplied as the stars of Heaven via his seed the words of the book That he wrote with his own blood. ..That New Covenant...I will know them ALL from the least to the greatest and this Knowledge is when he knows US resulting in a spritual pregnancy impling multiplcation of HIS SEED ETC...The Promise...Smite the sheppard and the sheep will be scattered,Then I will turn my hand to the little Ones,The babes and the Sucklings that are gonna praise God perfectly...The H.G are the little Ones...As that which is born of the spirt are Spirits.....Thats the Children of Promise that are gonna be born in us via his seed...Thats y he has to know US....Jesus is not impotent he has a seed to sow in humanity...HIS WORDS ARE HIS SEEDS...They don't refer to JESUS as the bridegroom for nothin.

Gerald Veira Paul heart was convinced to go to jerusalem to witness to his fellow jews under the law

but that was not what the spirit was saying because he almost lost His life there. Look at Acts 21:4 and Pauls

still headed there and again Agabus who was point blank then Paul says he's ready to die at Jerusalem sounds

good but not the will of God that's why the believers around stopped in verse 14 saying do the will of the lord

the will of the lord was NOT TO GOD TO JERUSALEM. He had to escape with the help of other believers to save

his life. A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

There are many scriptures that point to the deity of Christ like John 17 :5 When Jesus prayed Father Glorify thou me with thine Own Self, even with the GLORY i had with you b/f the world was ....But in Gen.1 : 14 The FATHER commands that everything has to multiply after its kind..( Its seed ) And the parable of the sower points to a seed that is the very seed of God, To whom the WORD ( HIS SEED ) came it made them Gods....As Jesus said that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit which is the H.G As God is spirit and life....Which is the very essence of God that results from his Seeds the living word....So we see that Christ is gonna reproduce after the God kind ( spirits ) the H.G. As the stars of heaven...which is the Israel of God The multiplication of God in humanity after all that was the great Promise

People's Bible Notes for Acts 20:22

Commentary

"I go bound in the spirit. Urged by a sense of duty, yet knowing from the premonitions of the Holy Spirit that bonds and afflictions awaited him at Jerusalem."

Acts 21:12-14

12 And when we heard these things, both we, and they of that place, besought him not to go up to Jerusalem.

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Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.

14 And when he would not be persuaded, we ceased, saying, The will of the Lord be done.

28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man [Paul] that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.

Verse 30: Paul is kicked out of Church and later beaten by the Jews.

Acts 21:22 Jesus sends Paul to the Gentiles.

Acts 26:17 Paul's Ministry to the Gentiles

Sam Like all others he fell asleep I.E. wore out a natural death.

John 10:30

I and my Father are one.

Wesley's Notes for John 10:30

I and the Father ARE ONE. Not by consent of will only, but by unity of power, and consequently of nature ARE.

This word confutes Sabellius, proving the plurality of persons: one - This word confutes Arius, proving the unity of nature in God.

Never did any prophet before, from the beginning of the world, use any one expression of himself, which could possibly be so interpreted as this and other expressions were, by all that heard our Lord speak.

Therefore if he was not God he must have been the vilest of men.

John 14:10

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth IN ME, he doeth the works.

Wesley's Notes for John 10:30

I and the Father ARE ONE. Not by consent of will only, but by unity of power, and consequently of nature ARE.

This word confutes Sabellius, proving the plurality of persons: one - This word confutes Arius, proving the unity of nature in God.

Never did any prophet before, from the beginning of the world, use any one expression of himself, which could possibly be so interpreted as this and other expressions were, by all that heard our Lord speak.

Therefore IF he was not God he must have been the vilest of men.

Have you been born again? It is JESUS who baptized us with the in-dwelling of the HOLY SPIRIT. It's his job to Teach us what each scripture means. We ask, and the Holy Spirit quickens the answer to our born again spirits; or tells us which scripture to read.

1 Corinthians 18:21

For the preaching of the cross is to them that PERISH is foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1 Corinthians 2:14

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

You may need to re-dedicate your life to God.

Mishael

Gigi Good it's all Gods Word I just prefer Church epistles because they elaborate more on being in Christ.

Cypress just had a 6.6 quake; 40 miles offshore. Apostle Paul preached there. Not that far from Syria.

Hello Kami, I think the word dog in this case is slang for a type of sinner.

If you look up a verse on its own dedicated page then look under the commentary sometimes it reveals useful information. In this case it offered a cross reference to Revelation 22:15 which is another example use of the word dogs. So, its likely not talking about pets. I think God made pets to be our friends.

God bless...

Romans 1 is the one chapter that mentions GODHEAD. We cannot separate them. God, Jesus's Father

Jesus the Word that SPOKE creation into existence.

The Holy Spirit who performed it. He is also the Spirit of Christ.

GODHEAD. The scriptures that prove it.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US. [Jesus]

1 Corinthians 12:1-31 explains all the gifts, titled, administrations that God gives to the Church that Jesus has planted on earth Now.

Those that He calls, he anoints for the work. Luke 4:18. The Bible says the gifts and callings are without revocation. If we try to operate without the Holy Spirits anointing; we will not bear good fruit. Can even become apostate.

It's not something to treat carelessly. The Head of the Church is Jesus Christ. All parts of the Body are connected to the HEAD, Jesus.

Mishael

California announced today they will be the Abortion Capital for the USA. They will pay airfare both ways, lodging, procedures.

We need to STUDY AND POST, that a demon named Molech required the ancient Israel peoples to blood sacrifice their babies and children. It is forbidden to kill a life that is Known by God, intimately, in the womb.

California is losing their tech industries because of the Fear of disasters. "That which they have feared will come upon them", IF THEY DO NOT repent of becoming the nations abortion capital.

Why is it so hard to use birth control? To be responsible over our bodies. Why doesn't our Government and States give it to all who ask?

Killing a child is easier??

I wouldn't be so militant in Gods face when I'm living on top of complicated Fault Systems; that have small quakes EVERY DAY.

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We have room and jobs in Texas; just in case.

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Yes I read it again , no where in John 1.1 does it say Jesus is God .

But if you can find Jesus in that verse , we need a 7 year old to read and explain it .

Hi Billy, if you read the thread it will probably make more sense. To make a point I used his own words against his own position so perhaps it would be recognized as such. He came up with an arbitrary expectation which I believe is based on a logical fallacy and demonstrated that the same expectation can be used against his position. I believe scripture means exactly what it says and usually doesn't require advanced mental hurdles in order to know what it means. Children can read and understand. I think Occam's razor applies. God will also provide understanding to those who seek Him.

God bless...

No Billy. If you read it again, Adam was saying that Jim said, "that John 1:1 doesn't say that Jesus is God". Adam believes in the Deity of Christ.