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Some confuse that with when the body of Christ assembles. The first century church met on the first day of the week Acts 20:7 so some churches modeled after that. But it does not say its a command or anything. We are to follow Christ every day.
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Witness of the bible and of the church from apostolic times onward.
The idea that Jesus is not God has been refuted repeatedly over the centuries and determined to be heresy again and again.
But I these days, this view flourishes because the church is so fractured that the authorities voice of orthodoxy has lost its effect as we are in a time where each person and sect chooses their own version of doctrines they accept as "truth" and minds have been blinded to the Truth of Scriptures, as you so clearly pointed out.
Those who deny that Jesus is God are deceived by "false teachers" the same as those who deny that He came in the flesh 1John 4:1-4 and have the spirit of the Antichrist.
1John 5:9-12 goes on to tell us that the witness of God is greater than the witness of men. Those who do not believe the witness of God
(In 1John 7-8) are calling God a liar.
I feel sad for those who have been deceived by refusing to believe that Jesus is God and that The Godhead consists of three Persons that are unified as One God. We can pray for them and give testimony to the truth as you have done .
Than you.
Thank you for your defense of this teaching in the Bible. Those who believe that Jesus is God along with the Father and with the Spirit have the witness of the B
I understand what you are saying.
Thank you, in Jesus name.
Something I think about all the time is what do I need or don't i need to help me better to walk with
the father. There's a record in 2 Kings 22:11 of a very young ruler that once he read the words of the book he
humbled himself and look at the action taken. At this time Gods people were buried in idolatry even inside the
temple. Look at what this young ruler does sends the priests to Go enquire of the Lord what to do, then they go
to hildah a prophetess of the true God that in verses 15-20 tells the messengers that God saw where josiah's
heart was and he was going to be blessed. In Chapter 23 He gathers all the people together reads the Word of God
and says to the people were gonna commit to this what a leader! From verse 4-verse 20 its called spiritual house
cleaning, this guy was Gods TERMINATOR and in the end look at what God says concerning this ruler verse 20-25.
Again he cleaned up everything in his power he could do, our challenge is first in our minds then in
our actions to be pleasing to God. Just some thoughts. P.S. Josiah's humility was seen in His performance!
17All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
I believe what God is saying here is that if your brother sin we shall ask them....by asking them God will bring conviction upon their heart and reveals Himself in us and this should bring forth change that in turn brings life back to that brother. Sin unto death is the sin of unbelief we should never pay one goes to hell...
It also says ALL unrighteousness is sin...so anything that is not righteous (of God) is sin! Sin not unto death I would believe is the sin of a saved person...One that has already accepted Christ as their Saviour...Sin unto death is the Sin of disbelief...the sin of not accepting Christ as our Saviour
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
God does specifically tell us that we should not drink! I guess you can say He calls those that chose to drink either wine or strong drink are fools...
Read all the chapter verse 8-26
made law.
out in the flesh to get closer to God,Christianity is what God accomplished for us through Jesus Christ. So I'm not
saying all in that statement but in some cases just because the label says apples on the outside doesn't mean there's apples on the inside.
religion, Christianity is God working on man religion is man trying to work his way ro be godly!
John 1:1 already said Jesus is God. That's all I need to know. When it says the Word was God, do you think it means the Word was 'not' God? If that is your interpretation, can you please explain how you honestly arrive at that?
I noticed you didn't comment on the more than 20 verses I posted previously. Did you hover over each of them? Each support that Jesus is God. For instance the plural 'we' in Genesis.
So, let's pretend for a moment that the 4 verses you last shared flat out said Jesus isn't God. If that were true we would then have 20 or more verses supporting that He is God, and then your 4 supporting that He isn't. Which do you then choose to believe: the one with more scriptural support, or the one with less?
But your four verses do not say Jesus isn't God, you are just interpreting that way. It also takes some mental gymnastics in my opinion to arrive at that. It must involve ignoring and absolutely disregarding much scripture, like the 20+ verses I shared. There are many more not yet shared which also support Jesus being God. There are so many pieces of evidence throughout the Bible, like the miracles, perfection, dying for you, resurrection, He was worshipped as being God ever since being a baby, people calling Him Lord and God, on and on.
1 Timothy 2:5 - the man Jesus Christ. He did become a man and He is a mediator to the Father. Both man and God. Titus 2:13
Let's say that you honestly read the entire Bible and weighed all the evidence and support, and prayed for wisdom about it. If you found that the Bible has more support for Jesus being God would you choose to believe it?
Do you believe God has limited power, or do you think God has the ability to be in a form we created beings don't have a framework to understand? For example of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were one, 1 John 5:7.
Do you believe Jesus is Lord as Romans 10:9 says? Do you believe He died for you for the forgiveness of your sins?
God bless...
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
The words are there to "eat" my friend in peace. Be very blessed in the Lord and in His righteousness we have eternal life. Be blessed in the Holy Name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and now in the Kingdom of the Holy Ghost. Remember that the prayer of a righteous man has great power. Amen.
The Bible flat out says Jesus is God in John 1:1.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
"Word was God"
It flat out says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14 and onward. It also calls Jesus God in other scripture too, so one has to deny much of the Bible in order to deny Jesus's divinity. Why are people so motivated to deny Jesus, one might ask? Matthew 10:32-33
The Word was God literally means the Word was God. It doesn't say the Word wasn't God. It doesn't say the Word was a different God. It doesn't say the Word was God the father. It doesn't say was kind of a God, but not really. People seem to really enjoy twisting this and trying hard to make it mean something else, but it doesn't mean something else. The Word was God still means the "Word was God." It cannot be denied what it so clearly says.
I heard someone who seemed motivated to not want Jesus to be his Lord or God go on to say that the Word didn't mean Jesus and wanted it to mean the Bible. But that person forgot that the Bible already says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14. It again calls Jesus the Word in Revelation 19:13.
So, all the other speculation doesn't really matter. People's devised human arguments in order to rationalize or distort to fit what one wants to believe is all irrelevant. The fact is John 1:1 says Jesus is God and the real question is does someone believe in the Bible as God's word or not? I choose to believe it. I hope others do too. Satan loves deceiving and tricking people into rationalizing away and cherry picking certain things over others.
1 Corinthians 8:6 (Jesus made all things), John 1:1 (Jesus was there in the beginning), John 5:18, (equal with His father), Jesus is the John 8:58, "I AM", Exodus 3:14, Revelation 1:8. John 20:28.
There are spiritual forces at work trying to deceive and twist and misinterpret. Beware of false teachers. The Bible already says what it means. Do we choose to believe and trust?
I realize that the Jewish religious leaders were at odds with Jesus and still oppose Jim because they are not born again.
But, as for Christisn pastors and leaders, I think that most are approved of God in their work having Ben called by rheHily Spirit. They are born again , so they are not tone categorized with Jewish leaders.
W should have brotherly love and affection for everyone God has saved. So, for me, I recognize that these pastors and leaders have a solemn calling and a more serious accountability to God for their
service. I do not look down on them not dismiss the work they do. Rather, I pray for them and support their work.
Granted, there are false teachers and leaders along with reprobate ones. We are to expose them as enemies of Christ. But I do believe those who rightly discharge their office are far more abundant than the ones who disgrace it.
I am not one to follow any leader, pastor or evangelist like a groupie, we should guard against that. But I honor my pastor. We speak honestly with each other and he cares for the members well. There are some Christian writers that I like to read because they explain things well.
We all can learn from each other, whether from people currently alive or from those who are gone but their writings remain for us to examine against Scripture.
Do, I do not put myself in the bandwagon that speaks I'll of Christian leaders. We judge people by their fruits not by their titles, offices, or lack thereof.
Yes, it is, and no light shines brighter than the truth.
God bless,
RLW
I'm not interested in what you belief but I am interested in what the true belief is according to the word of God. If you are interested I am willing to discuss with you according to the scriptures. I realize this can be a very touchy subject but I believe it is very important to have a true understanding about God.
You mentioned about the word Bible and the word trinity and that neither of them is mentioned in the book we call the Bible. The word Bible is describing a book that we believe God is the author of where the word trinity is describing God. These are two totally different things. There are probably a number of things we could call the book that is called the Bible. But I think we would be in agreement as concerning of the book we call the Bible. The thing is that if the author didn't use the word trinity to describe himself we need to be very careful using words that he didn't use. I agree that just because something isn't in the bible doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered. I believe there is a unity in the bible which involves not only God and Jesus Christ but all true believers.
One of the passages you used is 1 John 5:7 This passage is not used in later versions. Why? But for argument sake lets say it should be there. What is it actually saying? They are one. One in thought and one in action. Jesus did exactly as his father wanted him to do. That verse in itself is not enough to prove what you are saying. It proves unity between the father and the son. John 1:1 again proves that Jesus did everything his father wanted him to do. The verses in Genesis shows God and his angels at work in the creation and John 10:30 again shows the unity between The Lord Jesus Christ and God. I would go one but I'm running out of space. I'd like to show you a few passages to consider.
1 Tim 2:5, John 5:19,30 John 7:16, John 12:49
Thanks for your time