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Spencer,

Do you think the 1st resurrection saints, Revelation 14:1, and elders, will be judged alongside the 2nd resurrection group, at the great white throne? Are they exempt, and weren't they judged in the twinkling of an eye at the 7th trumpet, 1,000 years earlier?

Sorry, I forgot to include the scriptural references for symbolism of things = days & years : Genesis 40:12, Genesis 40:18, Genesis 41:26,27,29,30,

Proverbs 1:5-7, 1Corinthians 12, 2Peter 1:20,21,

Starting with: Numbers 14:34,35,36,37,38 then, Ezekiel 4:6,

Daniel 9:2, searching the prophetic timelines,

Other years mysteries: Isaiah 61:2, Isaiah 63:4, Jeremiah 11:23, Jeremiah 17:8, Jeremiah 23:12, Jeremiah 48:44, Jeremiah 51:46, Ezekiel 46:17, Luke 4:19, Luke 13:8, Revelation 9:15, Daniel 11:6,

Sometimes in prophetic dreams things symbolized days & years,

additional amounts of time described at "times" Daniel 4:23,25,32, Daniel 7:25, Daniel 8:14,17,19,26

Weeks; Daniel 9:24-27, Daniel 12:1,9,

Days: Daniel 12:11,12,13, 2Peter 3:7-13,

Also a Day is like a thousand years unto The LORD: 2Peter 3:8, Psalms 90:4,

* Daniel 2:20-22, James 1:5,

Hopefully these are helpful to your study

Reading the Bible on this website:

When you first enter the website, is a white page with all the books of the Bible listed. Those are LINKS. The Old Testament with the New Testament following.

Just click on the book of the Bible you want to read.

If you have questions, go to the SEARCH BOX, above the books of the Bible, and enter the scripture you are questioning.

After it's located, click on it and it will highlight Yellow. Scroll down slowly and you will see the Commentary Box. Open. There will be comments by John Wesley or the Peoples Bible.

You can also use Google the same way, but you have to type in one of these after you type in the scripture. Example:

John 3:16, Commentary or

Meaning or

Teaching or

History or

Geneology or

Hebrew meaning or

Greek meaning

It will be alot to read, but it will broaden your knowledge greatly. I use this myself all of the time.

Mishael

2 Peter 3:8-9

You asked "how" to find Philippians 4:13, it should link you to this verse on the website. Also on the site top it has tabs for KJV version & 1611, if you click either, you can search Books, either in Table of Contents page, or by name, in search bar on right under header/heading on page.

If you're asking how to find how, [To do all things through CHRIST who strengthens me.]

1st, please read the verses prior in Philippians 1, note Philippians 1:6,9,10,11, &

2nd, Philippians 4:4 "Rejoice in the LORD always, again I say rejoice." meaning we can "rejoice" cheer up, (hail) enthusiasticly acknowledge The LORD's accomplishments. Knowing His Power, Truth, Love & compassion & purposes for us. If we Believe & have Faith in HIM & The WORD. For HE has a will & purpose for us all, Philippians 2:13, Philippians 3:21,

Philippians 4:6,7,8,9 are all actions we are to take. Philippians 1:11, Philippians 2:4,14,15, Philippians 3:13,14,

3rd Paul in bonds in Rome it appears, Philippians 1:12,13,14, Philippians 4:23,24, & in context of what he's saying in Chptr 4, verse 13. He says "I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound, every where and in all things. ...." in Philippians 4:11,12,13,

Note Philippians 1:19,20,21,23,24,

He's speaking I believe; the ability to endure even the worst of circumstances. Paul being an example of this: Philippians 1:29, following Jesus' example: Philippians 2:5-8, Philippians 3:8,10,

Hopefully these are helpful to endure any & every thing you have to face

Chuck:

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names ARE NOT written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundations of the world.

GBU

Richard, not only is Revelation a parable, it is also signified.

Revelation 15:8 And the TEMPLE (you) was filled with the smoke from the glory of God, and HIS POWER .....

John 2:19 Destroy this temple (Christ came as sinful flesh, that temple (sinful flesh) had to be destroyed) and in three days I will raise IT (the new TEMPLE)(the new BODY (dwelling place) OF CHRIST)(we, the body, were raise up with Christ as the new TEMPLE).

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and Holy is he that has his part in the first resurrection ....

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the TEMPLE OF GOD (filled with his glory and HIS POWER)......

Revelation 15:8 .......and no man was able to enter into the TEMPLE (the new BODY OF CHRIST) until the seven plaques of the seven angels be fulfilled.

The Father pour out, on Christ, those seven LAST plaques (the wrath of God).

Revelation 15:1 ....seven angels having the seven LAST plaques, which are the wrath of God.

Man CAN NOW enter into the TEMPLE (the Body of Christ), because the wrath of God that we deserved, was poured out on Christ.

We are that BODY OF CHRIST where GOD dwells and Christ sits at his right hand.

GBU

Scriptures pertaining to modern day practice of child sacrifice or, abortion.

2 Kings 23:10

Leviticus 20:4

1 Kings 11:7

Leviticus 20:3

Leviticus 18:21

Leviticus 20:5

Leviticus 20:2

Jeremiah 32:35

Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Proverbs 28:27

He that giveth unto the poor shall not lack: but he that hideth his eyes shall have many a curse.

James 1:5

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that gives [wisdom] to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

COMMENT:

We do not need to be angry or go on a rampage. We do need to repent on behalf of ignorance as a nation. Intercede; stand in the gap. Ask the Lord to open all hearts of mercy to heal this curse. We can't fix it, but the Lord can. We only open the gate for the healing to begin. Mishael

Where I the verse the lambs book of life not just the book of life

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Dear Kenny

Since nobody answered your question, i get the feeling nobody understood what you mean, just like me. What exactly do you want to know? Please make it clear.

GBU

WHO is Molech or Moloch?

The idol Moloch with seven chambers or chapels. It was believed these statues had seven chambers, one of which was reserved for child sacrifices.

The religion of the Canaanites was a hodgepodge of ancient Semitic faiths. Practiced by the people of the Levant region from at least the early Bronze Age, the cult of Moloch was still active into the first few centuries of the Common Era.

Moloch's name derives from the Hebrew word mlk, which usually stands for melek, or "king." As this is vocalized as molek in the Masoretic text - the authoritative text for Rabbinic Judaism - the pronunciation has become its traditional name.

The Masoretic text dates to the Middle Ages but references to a Molock appear in Ancient Greek translations of old Judaic texts as well. The distinction dates back to the Second Temple period between 516 B.C. and 70 C.E. when the Second Temple of Jerusalem stood prior to its destruction by the Romans.

Moloch's anthropomorphized bull figure was typically pictured in Rabbinic Judaic texts as a bronze statue internally heated by a fire. It was inside this construct that priests or parents placed their children to be consumed by fire as a sacrificial offering.

Ancient Greek and Roman authors wrote tales of this practice, with the earliest being stories of child sacrifices to Baal, or Hammon in Carthage. He was their chief god, responsible for WEATHER and fertile agriculture.

In the Bible, children were sacrificed in a Tophet, a shrine reserved for child sacrifice, outside of Jerusalem to Moloch's satisfaction. While certainly well-documented in religious texts, the historical and archaeological communities still debate Moloch's identity and just how active its cult was.

COMMENT: this was a Canaanite practice; NOT Christian or Jewish. Abortion is child sacrifice, but modern society does not know it as a child sacrifice. It has become a form of birth control.

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I saw some people using mattwhe 6:24 as mening to qout your job and stop working for money. (Money rout of all evil ect.) And that tru way is to live on faith and to preche on street like apostle in acts.

Wendy, you find it by finding what TRUTH is.

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Wendy, you are a new creation in Christ.

Christ came as sinful flesh (you were that sinful flesh) and DIED, Wendy, you, sinful flesh died on that cross, and as you died with Christ, you also arose with Christ, a new creation.

Colossians 1:27 ....that mystery....Christ in you ....

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Spirit)(Christ in you) that WORKETH (Spirit)(Christ, not you, you died) in you both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I (Christ) will put my spirit within you, and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statues, and ye shall keep my judgements, and DO THEM.

And truth shall set you free.

Philippians 4:13 I (Wendy, the new creation) can do all things THROUGH Christ which strengeneth me.

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the (works of) the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us that are saved it (the workings of the cross) is the POWER OF GOD.

GBU

Hello Doug,

It is a wonderful thing to have our God dwell within us. Wherever the Holy Spirit dwells, so does our Lord, Jesus, the Son, and the Father. So, as we have received the Holy Spirit at our regeneration we have all the fullness of God dwelling within us! We still remain human, but are filled with God's Spirit. We do not become God, but are sons of God by adoption through the work of the Holy Spirit. It is such an amazing thing that our God has done all that is necessary for our regeneration, salvation, sanctification, and complete redemption from sin, death, and the evil one. Hallelujah!

In this passage in Ephesians, Paul is praying for those in Ephesus that they be "strengthened with might through the Holy Spirit in their inner man, that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height-to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God." (NIV)

This indwelling of the God in us is what we are being saved to. Instead of being void of God within us when we were dead to Him, we are now made alive and able to receive Him into our body, mind, soul, and spirit. What a blessing and outstandingly precious position God has raised us to in Him. Instead of occupying the lowest place due to our sin (in hell) we are will be raised above even this earthly life to one that is glorified and incorruptible and immortal with God forever. We will eternally have the Holy Spirit within us and will see God in Jesus and dwell with Him!

Doug, that's a great scripture, Ephesians 3:19 ......that ye might be filled with the FULLNESS OF GOD (the DIVINE NATURE).

Christ was the first to be filled with the FULLNESS OF GOD (the divine nature).

Through the works of his cross, he (the Holy Ghost) is indwelling mankind and giving them the heritage of the divine nature, becoming son's of God (SPIRIT).

Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery, CHRIST (diety) IN YOU ......

GBU

How do I find philippians 4:13 ?

Dear Roy, thanks for the info on what you received from the pope's rep. The Roman Catholic church has "mystified" what the bible calls our union with Christ. Some in the Catholic church teach that this union means we are "absorbed" into the essence of God.

This mysticism is a mixture of Eastern religion and the concept of believers being unified with God through Christ. In Eastern religious thought (think Buddhism) through meditation a person "ascend" to be absorbed into the cosmic energy, thus losing personal identity, but one with all consciousness. This is what has been adopted and modified in among Catholic Church members who seek this "mystical union" with God.

I do not think this way at all. The Bible says we are one in Christ, but not absorbed into Him nor do we mix our humanity with His deity. We will be perfected humanity likened to the perfect humanity of Jesus (which He possessed since His conception in Mary).

However, Jesus is not a man that becomes divine, He is God who took on human likeness in every way but sin. So, in Him is full

divinity and full humanity (without sin).

Likewise, we are not humans who become divine. That is a gulf too wide for any to cross, as God alone is divine. We will always be human, even in heaven, but we will be perfected in our humanity to be like Jesus and never sin again. We will have a glorified human body, like Jesus has, that will be immortal and incorruptible. As in a marriage, we will be unified with Christ in mind, heart, soul, and spirit, yet remain separate individuals. We will enjoy the communion of saints which is the bride of Christ. We will forever be with Him and enjoy Him forever.

Who was Jesus talking to when he talked about the drunkenness

As far as I can ascertain; this was the last occurrence of the "glory cloud" in the holy place (v.11-14) recorded in O.T. times. Obviously, we have visions of Ezekiel; Daniel and Isaiah personally into heavenly places; and Revelation shows how the praise of the saints proceeds events in the seal and trumpet judgments. The bowl judgments; however have a similar spin; as no one can enter into the inner sanctuary in heaven until they are completed. ( Rev. 15:8).

The sobering fact is that after Solomon with few exceptions there were kings that were primarily evil; with a few exceptions. Because of Solomon's falling for foreign women; the sins of Molech where child sacrifice was performed repeatedly were done even by these wicked kings. There are a few exceptions where as in 2 Chronicles 34; Josiah burned the bones of the false priests as was prophesied earlier; as well as breaking down many idols and killing others that did such evil practices. Solomon was warned but allowed multiplying of silver and gold and horses to ensnare him in worldly glory ( Deut. 17:17). This verse mentions multiple wives along with that as well as being warned against. The manna mentioned in Exodus 16 as well as Aaron's rod in Numbers doesn't seem to be mentioned here; only the two tablets of God's covenant. I am not entirely sure the reasoning; and no one is sure exactly where the Ark is; although scripture hints that some day there will be no mention of it ( Jeremiah 3:16). This probably hints at the Millennial reign of Christ as to the blessings of multiplied natural descendants at that time.

Phillip, the "HER" in Revelation 18 is Babylon (the world, carnality, falsehoods, deceptions), that all mankind is in the CAPTIVITY OF.

God commands that we, God's church (the called out) come out of HER (BABYLON)(the world, carnality, falsehoods, deceptions).

Revelation 18:2 And he (the ANGEL OF THE LORD, Christ, God's messenger of SPIRIT, the HOLY GHOST, THE WORD) cried mightly with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen (though Christ resurrection man is no long in captivity to Babylon (the world, carnality, falsehoods, deceptions), is fallen, and (Babylon)(the World) is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, (falsehoods, deceptions) and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Revelation 18:4 And I heard a voice from heaven, saying, Come out of HER (BABYLON, the world, carnality, falsehoods, deception), my people (God's church, the called out), that ye be not partakers of HER SINS, and that ye receive not of HER PLAQUES (the wages of sin is DEATH).

The gift of God (Christ in you, LIFE and TRUTH in you, the HOLY GHOST in you) is ETERNAL LIFE.

GBU

God has always been and will forever after the end be. His earthly human blood was shed, not Him who is spirit and one with Jesus. The bloodshed is also that of billions upon billions both long gone in days o old, the here and now, and in the end but only as God says it will be. No one knows their day or hour but God, not even the angels know. And as far as God's name, only He knows it, and man can only guess and assume it is as they see it to be. God made all things including the angels. So don't make a mistake about God and Jesus being one the same. It says this throughout the Bible. The word Elohim because God came to earth as Jesus to walk amongst His people - His creations, called man. I am interpreting the entire book of Revelation and will publish it when I'm done. For now, my comment is on "the word of God," who was, is, and always will be; there is no such thing as a trinity, meaning three, for God is all; AND ONE THE SAME, NOT THREE different entities as most think He is. This word Trinity is not in any Bible unless one of the pagan ones. It was made up, yet many of you speak of the father, the son, and the holy spirit as being separate, and not one the same. Wake up people.! It states clearly in even the orthodox bible, the name of God what no one knows but Him - God, himself. Ho logos tou Theou, or "the Logos of God." The plural is defined as more than one, but this greek tells that God is one, not three for He is the word, was manifest into the son Jesus, then went back to heaven in spirit, and will return once again as the living God in the flesh, Jesus, is His name, and He is Lord of lords, and King of kings, our only creator telling the angels and all of us who He is, and what He will do, to rule for a thousand years on the new earth and in the new heavenly kingdom that only He will once again create, and place all of us who are His children back upon the new earth, and heaven will be reserved for the angels and saints. Amen.!

If I remain focused on the laws of God and leave His will and judgment up to Him, I will learn who is righteous by observing the failures of the wicked. My reward is my being surrounded by Gods chosen and obtaining wisdom and knowledge.

What we must understand is the mystery of the Kingdom of God is Christ in US which is Spirit..The Spirit has to be Born in US via the seed of Christ,...Thats y they call him the bridegroom...thats Y he has to know us...Today if you will hear his Voice meaning his Seed...Thats y he is saying that which is BORN of the Spirit is Spirit, his seed is the word which is Spirit thus his Children are Spirits...The H.G. plural that is gonna be as the Stars of Heaven, that was the great Promise when God Almighty swore by his very self that Christ was gonna be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven.

....We cannot be born again unless we hear his voice that incorruptible seed which are the words of very God as Peter says..Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed etc...Today if you will hear his voice ( that good seed ) harden not your hearts. As Faith comes by hearing his voice that good seed the word initiating a spritual pregnancy...Even in the natural when a woman is pregnant she has the substance of things hoped for the evidence of thing not seen...Our Child is the H.G. the Child of PROMISE the multiplication of Christ Jesus is US....Thats y they call the H.G. the Promise he is the very offspring of Christ Jesus...Whosoever receiveth one such Child in MY Name receiveth Me..When Isaiah saw the Kingdom coming he says unto US Child is born unto us a son is given ...Thats y Zech is saying he is our 1st born our only Son...Thus he is truely the Son of MAN. MANKINDS Fruit unto God via that good seed...k

Thank you for sharing His Word to the World!

Blessings Always!

Marke, the "her" in Revelation 18 is Babylon, the world's system of government (law written in stone), directly opposite God's government (law written in the heart).

WE are commanded to come out of BABYLON and live under the LAW OF THE SPIRIT.

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her (Babylon, the world, carnality) my people (Christ church) that ye be not partakers of her (Babylon, carnality, worldly), and that ye receive not of her plagues.

GBU

Amen, Brother Alex, if Christ (the word(s) are in us and we are in the word(s)), we are in the BOOK OF LIFE. The SEED awaiting the harvest.

Praise be to God for Jesus the Christ the son of the Living God! It Is by faith in his death burial and Resurrection there is life!! If we confess with our mouths Jesus is Lord I believe in our heart that God has raised him from the dead we will be saved!! May God grant us change of mind!! Thank you for making this possible to share

A thought provoking part of a long sentence. I noticed for the first time that there a commas in it. Ephesians 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passes knowledge, the ye might be filled with the fulness of God.

2 Samuel 6:7 also records this event with Uzza. It is a natural reaction; to steady something about to fall and perhaps he should have known better. There were rules as to how to carry the Ark in Numbers 4; and other places on who was allowed to. In 1 Samuel 6:19 people also were slain for LOOKING into the Ark.

This is basically the same principle involved for those who would be in the inner Temple. Since this appears to be an unintentional sin; it is not at the same level of transgression as those who tried to enter that weren't supposed to be in there; let alone those that had "strange fire" ( Leviticus 10:1-11). The result may be the same; as to ending this earthly life; but the eternal results for those who are saved or unsaved surely wouldn't. Moses; in fact himself was warned by God that he wouldn't live if he viewed Him fully; as no man can see God (in the flesh) and live ( Exodus 33:20). It is this Holiness in God which we should strive for; now that in some sense He lives in us as a Temple or Tabernacle. ( 1 Cor. 6:19). This verse shows; in fact how for self careless living can lead to physical death ( 1 Cor. 11:27 and following verses); and could allude to those who martyr God's saints as well ( Psalm 116:15). See also Rev. 17:6; Rev. 6:9:11.

It truly is a profound thing for the eternal God to tabernacle with men. It is based on His grace; and His covenants in which ultimately in the New Covenant involved our redemption through His Son. ( Heb. 8:13; 9:15). This is; BTW the only way any old covenant is ended-God's covenants are eternal; and our vows for our lifetime and that of the other parties represented as to what was promised. God is ever faithful; even when we are not. ( Deut. 7:9) for context.