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Seeking on,

Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

God bless,

RLW

Hi and thanks for your interesting post . I believe that Jesus washed Judas's feet along with the other apostles . I also believe that Judas was trying to force Jesus's hand , pressuring him to restore the Kingdom to Israel by leading a revolt against the Romans . Jesus told the disciples of John the Baptist of the signs that he is the Messiah , Matthew Ch 11 , V 5 , these are things that the Jews believed the Messiah would be able to do along with restoring the Kingdom to Israel , I believe that this is what Judas was looking for from Jesus . Many of the scribes and Pharisees had seen the miracles that Jesus did with their own eyes ,yet they still kept asking for a ' sign ' ,Matthew Ch 12 and Luke Ch 11 . The only prophecy that Jesus hadn't fulfilled was restoring the Kingdom to Israel , he had fulfilled all the other prophecies . Judas was trying to force Jesus into taking the action that he thought was the thing that Jesus was there to do at that time . These are just my thoughts and I know I could be wrong about them .Judas was looking for the physical restoration not the spiritual , Judas was of this world , Jesus says...John Ch 18 . Hope I've explained myself ok .

Hello Gigi In my heart it was iron sharpeneth iron, some points we agree some points we disagree but we both love and God and His Word learn and move closer to the return then we will all know each other perfectly! I enjoy the fellowship.

Jesse A while back you shared that to understand to a greater depth some things in Gods Word it helps to know some of original language and eastern thought. It sorta adds gravy to good mashed potatoes so to speak.

Hi Kent moving on some how text of subject matter changed. God Bless

Patricia,

All glory to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

To you, it may seem like a storm in a teacup. I am not sure what Rick thinks about our exchanges. I'd like to know. Some people wish to make a statement and then go back and forth with someone a few times. Rick and I went back and forth at length. I don't think that is out of bounds. If others find it uncomfortable, they can exit the thread. There is freedom to do that.

As always,

God's blessings to you. We are in this together.

Hi Jesse I never stated to the best of my knowledge he was ever saved or repented and I do understand he fulfilled prophecy I also see where like I shared he was there and saw jesus Christ rise and beside being obviously twisted by the adversary the guilt killed Him. Jesus Christ never condemned Him. Just a perspective

Sasha,

Sorry, but I never said what anyone can or cannot say on this site. If you think I did, please refer me to it. I just happen to be presenting a viewpoint that you and others may not agree with. I tolerate the views of other, even as I write responses where I differ. I would ask that people do the same to me.

I am not on this site to argue to persuade others. I am on this site to have an opportunity to dialogue about with others on the subjects that come up on the comments section. part of dialoguing includes presenting different opinions and points of view. It is not arguing, but healthy interchanges to help with clarifying biblical truths.

I welcome a response from you.

Kent,

I think we agree that there is only one triune God. But Jesus, is athe Only "Begotten" Son of God, not because He lived a perfect life, but because He has always been The Only "begotten" Son from eternity to eternity, one in Being with the Father and the Son. Created beings can never be "begotten" by God. We are adopted as sons of God. There is a difference in my opinion.

Hi Earl There's no profit in me going any further God Bless.

Hello English Sacha,

Yes, I agree. God speaks to us all through His written word. But He also speaks to us individually as you properly stated. But one thing is for certain, He's not going to tell one person one thing, and then tell another person something opposite. To those who are "looking down their nose" at you, I say shame on them. What believer has the right to question and ridicule something the Lord is either persuading you to do or not do?

On a side note, on one of your other posts asking the meaning of "red flag", I think that would be the same as saying there are alarm bells going off. I'm not too sure what "a bit of a storm in a tea cup" means but I think I like it!

Hi english Sacha You are correct we ever since adam and eves downfall we are born of sinful flesh, that was not the context of this comment the context was that we all are born children of the devil or satan that is spiritual and not true. Has nothing to do with flesh and blood, just as there are those of us who confess Jesus christ as lord and saviour, there are people genuinely who confess satan or the devil as lord and become his children spiritually. Again these are known old testament as men of belial or worthless men or wicked men. Some may disagree and that's there privilege. Again in John 8:44 its pretty point blank ye are of your father the devil and the lust of your father ye will do. Remember there are two kingdoms the natural and spiritual, we truly do not wrestle against flesh and blood. Now to be clear that is not saying that all who worship satan fall into that category, that's a different situation.

Brother David, the verses that I referenced, such as God of gods, Is God the God of man made gods, or of gods that bear his image.

The words says Christ IS CREATING you in his image, you have no problem believing Christ, who is created in his Father's image, is god, why can't you believe you also will be god.

The saints are going to judge the earth, with Christ, the word says all judgement was given to the Son, you are going to be a Son, like Christ, a body holding the FULLNESS OF GOD; this is how you will be able to judge the world with Christ.

Hi David,

I for one am not going to beat Judas up. What Judas did was in fulfillment of prophecy. However, I do not believe that Judas ever received salvation prior to committing suicide. I know the bible says that Judas repented, but the word repent (METAMELOMAI) used in that instance is not the same word for true repentance (METANOEO) as in making a decision to change the direction of your life and surrendering your life to Christ.

Although, he is definitely an interesting character to study. From all biblical and historical accounts, Judas was evil from the time Christ chose him, all the way up to his death. I believe Jesus had to choose an evil man to fulfil an evil deed. Just my thoughts!

What is fascinating to me is that when the twelve were sitting at the table with Jesus and He says "Didn't I choose you all, and one of you is a devil." He was speaking of Judas. But what is interesting is that they all asked the same question, "Is it me?"



You would think that after three years together in close fellowship, one of them would have whispered to the other "You know, that Judas guy seems sort of suspect." But they didn't know. What is even scarier to think about is how many Judas' do we have in our church fellowships today? How many in our congregations look, act, and sound like believers, but yet are still void of the indwelling Spirit of Christ in them? Scary thought, but something to think about!

Micheline,

I would guess that all Jews believe in Jesus, but not all agree on who He claimed to be. For those who do agree with His claims and have received Him as their Messiah, those would be called Messianic Jews.

Looking for a Bible quiz or a lesson king James ore kjv

Jesus plainly said there are 2 thrones his and the fathers .

Hope that helps .

As you said if it's possible to be at peace with all men .

You cannot partake in their sins or you are no better than them , we are to be an example of a person in Christ , not a sinner .

Only by the grace of God and obedience to his word is that possible and we are to be that for them to see . We can not keep doing the same old sins . Or we are just hypocrites.

Jesus sat with sinners to win them and they did not have much time to decide to believe in him or not . He never condone sin but revealed it to them , many sought to kill him for doing that , some repented and changed .

I hope that helps !

Hello Rick,

I agree. Jesus Christ is our blessed hope ( Titus 2:13). 1 Corinthians 15:14 also comes to mind.

Brother Rick, creation was not made spiritually evil, thy were made without KNOWLEDGE.

Ecclesiastes 3:11 ...also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

They had to eat of the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE (of good and evil). And God said, Behold, thy have become like one of us, they must have KNOWLEDGE (of good and evil) to be like God. God made sure they would eat of the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE by making creation subject to vanity.

Romans 8:20 For the creature was MADE subject to vanity, NOT WILLINGLY, but by reason (PURPOSE) of him who hath subjected the same in hope.

Hello every and any one . I believe that there is some distinction to be made between what God says to a specific person at a specific time and what God says to us , individually here and now e.g. God tells Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply . I have had sisters in Christ look down their noses at me and think very much less of me because I haven't had children . Some of them seem to think that that is what a woman must do , as if God said it to all women and not just to Adam and Eve . Also , when God said : let us make man in our image , was He just talking about Adam , the first Adam , the one from the dust who didn't have a belly button or , was He talking about Jesus , the second Adam ? Or was He talking about us , redeemed and ressurected through Christ our Saviour ? Is this : making man in our image , an on going process that will only be completed when Christ turns the Kingdom over to his Father and God is All in All ? Would like to hear what you think please .

What is the name they call if a jew believes in jesus christ

Seeking, sitting at the right hand of the Father represents that Christ is the body that does all things the Father shows him to DO.

There is only one throne:

Revelation 3:21 He that overcometh will I (Christ) grant to sit with me (Christ) on my throne, even as I (Christ) overcame, an am set down with my Father own his throne.

John 17:21 That they all may be ONE, as thou, Father, art in me, and I in you, that they also may be ONE in us: that the world may believe that thou has sent me.

Hi James.

I have heard it taught that his Job kids doubled as well. Apparently they were saved. you don't loose a love one if He/She is going to Heaven and so are you. as King David said about his baby " Someday I will go to Him! 2 Samuel 12:23.

Those seven is still his kids along with the seven mentioned in Job 42:13.

Giving him 14 in total, and he's probably with all 14 now.

God bless.

Amen to you .

Hi Rick , I understand your feeling on this but for me , we are all born of the flesh , sinful flesh , until we are born again of the Spirit , which happens when we learn of and accept Christ as our Sinless Redeemer . We start off as sinful flesh , once we accept Christ and are born again of the Spirit of Truth our sinfullness is covered , blotted out , by Christ and what he has done for us . Hope I have explained my thoughts clearly , much love in Christ .

Amen and amen, Brother Alex!

Thank you , very well put .

Hi David, don't forget that Adam and Eve were created, which means that God foreknew that they would sin because they were not begotten from the beginning. However they were created in a more perfect environment and state. But there shall be no one saying, "Why didn't i get a chance to be like god" . We all will know we are not begotten like Jesus because none of us could live without sin.