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Brother Spencer,

Thank you for sharing that Great Scripture with us. May we learn to be humble and forever thankful to God.

1 Thessalonians 5:18

"In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you."

God Bless.

How do you explain the Godhead?

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

To REFUSE this knowledge, is to reject the Son of God, and his provision.

Thank you Rodd .

Comments by Alex about the Israel of God which is the multiplication of God via the seed of the Sower, the Seed of Christ the Son thus there has to be a GRANSON ,an Israel of God,Which is the H.G. the Child of Promise. Just as Abraham was multiplied as the sands of the seas After he offered up Isaac,And God swore by himself when he made that Promise that Christ wd me multiplied as the stars of heaven,thus the sower and his seed ,the new covenant ( that book in the right hand of the FATHER ) That is gonna result in an Israel of God , Thats y the woman is in travail and birth Pains resulting in an Israel of God, When Isaiah saw the Kingdom coming he says unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given. They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin , there is gonna be an Israel of God that is gonna be born in us sinners that are born from above the Child of PROMISE ,THE MULTIPLICATION OF Christ in US. There is a baby Christ in our future, The Child is the H.G. that Child of Promise making the Godhead Father Son and Granson .Thats y GOD says his Name is Abraham Issac and Jacob which was FATHER SON and GRANSON that will result in an Israel of God, THAT WAS THE GREAT PROMISE THAT CHRIST WD BE MULTIPLIED AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN thus the Gransons resulting in an Israel of God, Christ is not impotent he has a seed to sow in humanity thus there is a baby Christ in our future, The Granson ,A lil one shall be come a 1000 and a small one a strong nation I THE LORD WILL HASTEN IT IN ITS TIME. God told Moses that his name was Abraham Isaac Jacob thus there has to be an Israel of God which is the multiplication of very God thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word ( his seed ) came it made them them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken , Thus the multiplication of God cannot be refuted, its God that wants a posterity, thus an Israel of God. Christ is the Father of the H.G. THE GRANSON IS THE H.G. Thats y jesus is saying whosoever receiveth one such CHILD in my Name receiveth ME

Stranger things have happened before, brother Leonard. With the Apocryphal books already in the 1611 KJV as well as in some other Bibles, I think that the status quo with the KJV might continue. But who can tell what could happen.

Sir, The question was asked a week ago regarding John ch 8 v 58:- when JESUS says : "Before Abraham was, I AM".

This verse is usually brought up when discussing the trinity doctrine.......but that is because the text is misunderstood...... NOT of its context....but of the speaker of it !!! ( John ch 1 is also misunderstood.)

This pure lack of Biblical knowledge ( Amos ch 8 vs 11-12 ?? ) has confused - and deflected church teaching through out the world.

The Bible is clear....JESUS is NOT claiming to be the "I AM " And the explanation is given in Deuteronomy ch 18 vs 15, 18 and verse 19 : (or John ch 1 v 18 JESUS will "DECLARE" the FATHER) which simply state that GOD will send His "Chosen One" (My Elect.) Is. ch 42 v 1 chosen from "amongst thee" ie. "of THY brethren" ACTS ch 2 v 22 says:- "Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of GOD " -- who would speak GOD's WORDS ..! JESUS agrees/admits this in eg John ch 12 vs 49-50 and in John ch 14 and John ch 17 !!!!

JESUS SPEAKS FOR HIS FATHER, ALMIGHTY GOD....who begot JESUS. So much for a trinity ..( man's invention !!!) GOD IS "ONE" !!!! CREATOR ALONE ! ( even church creeds get that bit right !! ) rodd.

Sir, Who does the Bible say is ISRAEL ? The wide world church seems to claim that Jews are ISRAEL. Then we must ask who the JEWS are ! In John ch 8 JESUS Himself reveals the answer to us.....which does NOT agree with church thinking !!

So I ask:- JESUS came for the lost sheep of ISRAEL. The 10 tribes of ISRAEL were exiled to Assyria and never returned. (They are still "lost" - but some do know who and where they are today ! ) The 2 tribes of JUDAH were exiled to Babylon......and returned, found their land ( then renamed JUDAEA) was occupied...so ( whilst some initially aided in the rebuilding of the walls and Temple of Jerusalem) the 2 tribes of JUDAH made their home in Galilee....NOT a part of JUDAEA. ( Luke ch 2 v 4 ).

In JESUS' day...that was the status quo.

So, getting near my question ! :- JESUS stayed out of JUDAEA for "fear of the Jews". (John ch 7 v 1 ) They could not be Israelites as all 12 tribes were accounted for and JESUS did not find them. Matt ch 10 ! So ...who were the JEWS? The Jews know ! AND JESUS reveals the answer to us !...but the churches teach that they were ISRAEL !! The JEWS said in Matt ch 27 v 25 :- "His blood be on us and on our children." To say, therefore, ...as churches do say...that JESUS was a Jew CANNOT and IS NOT right !! What say you ?

(JESUS, ((during His ministry ))- despite what preachers surmise, - is recorded as only entering JUDAEA on 4 occasions...each at Passover time. His teaching was almost all done in Galilee. )

It seems to me that "truth" is very absent in the church...indeed, in the world !!!

This is a sensitive subject, I hope it will be treated as such, thank you. rodd.

Thank you brother Rick. I fully agree with your comments - may we remain sensitive & obedient to the Spirit in every area of our lives.

Hi Thos. As others have stated, the teaching on Purgatory is largely a Roman Catholic one & is generally based on the Apocryphal Book, 2 Maccabees 12:38-45. The story there is about some Jews who were slain in battle but had unholy things in their possession & this was seen by the other Jews, making them unclean. To deal with this, the people had to remove this sight from their thoughts & that a large amount of silver was to be sent to Jerusalem as a sin offering for those sinners who died. This was done to guarantee them the right to the resurrection. And verse 44 also speaks about prayers being offered for the dead, that there would still be reconciliation for them & deliverance from sin.

This portion of 2 Maccabees is what the RCs use to support Purgatory, a intermediate place where outstanding sins can be atoned for coupled with the prayers from the living & gifts to the Church. However, the Bible totally refutes & rejects such an abomination, as we are all given only one life on Earth & one Saviour to call upon for the forgiveness of our sins. If we fail to do this, then there is no intermediate place of purification - only Hell where all unforgiven sinners are consigned. Hebrews 9:27: "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" (no second chances - no purgatory). How important it is for each one to take hold of the Truth & run to the Cross of Jesus for salvation & not trusting in man's wisdom & works to get there.

Hello Jorge. That's very interesting - I have never heard this before, that it was the Apostle John whom Paul was referring to in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4.

If that's the case then Paul was stating that John was known by him (which he probably was) & that John had this heavenly vision (in Revelation) about the early 40s AD. However, John was not exiled to Patmos till much later (in the 90s AD) probably under orders of Emporer Domitian (who was ruling at that time). If these dates are correct then it seems impossible for Paul to speak of John having these visions when they hadn't occurred as yet.

As well, how do you understand 2 Corinthians 12:5-7, where Paul writes about 'glorying' (boasting)? Is he then speaking about boasting in John's revelations & in case his boasting got out of hand, a "thorn in the flesh" was given him to keep him humble? It seems incredible that poor Paul would be so afflicted for the likelihood of his boasting of someone else's revelations. Yet, the clear understanding of the 2 Corinthians passage is to the Apostle Paul himself. If perchance he was speaking of another, how could Paul glory in that revelation, since the words of that revelation could not be revealed (v4); if nothing revealed, then where is the glorying? Sorry for all these questions - your comments have me perplexed.

In this dayes nothing is impossible, a few klick or calls away and we can be together like forever! The only thing is for privately we need too shot down the computer. Sing for the Lord and praise Him who are worthy all things is made for Him.

And this web site is the best tool today too reach out to all the ppl on the globe. Hallelujah God Is the greatest! And it is a lot af tv programme who do they're best to make some confusion about the Way. Do we longing for that? Not i. God bless u all in Jesus name, love u in Christ.

Hello Aura. The canonized Book Ecclesiastes never became Ecclesiasticus. Ecclesiastes was penned by King Solomon, son of David, of Jerusalem ( Ecclesiastes 1:1) around 935 BC. The other book you referred to, Ecclesiasticus, is what we call an Old Testament Apocryphal Book, which along with several others, were considered unsuitable to be included in the Canon of Scripture we have now, nor accepted by the Jews. Various tests were applied to those apocryphal books & they failed. Ecclesiasticus was written by a Jewish scribe, Ben Sirach of Jerusalem around 200-175 BC. Do you have a problem with a verse in the KJV & the apocryphal book? None of the KJV verses pertain to the apocryphal books. However, the 1611 version of the KJV had the apocryphal books included.

I am going through a devoice l use to be a world le person to but l been saved a long time but the grace of God he is my strength l pray that he will give you peace in the midst of the storm

Kevin,

We know that in John 2:19, Jesus said destroy this temple (speaking of His body) and I will raise it up. So Jesus said He would raise His own body from the grave.

It is interesting, because we read that right before Jesus died, He dismissed His Spirit. His body was laid in the tomb, but we also read that during those three days while His body laid in the grave, He went into the lower parts of the earth, to a place called Hades, and He released the Old Testament saints. So His Spirit was separate from His body.

I believe that after that took place, Jesus then raised His physical body from the grave, as He said He would do. I believe Jesus had the power to raise Himself. We know He has resurrection power, as we read in the account of Him raising Lazarus from the grave.

I also believe that Jesus is God. He is God the Son. I believe also in God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit. All three, co-equal, and co-eternal, and all three being one God.

Amen Brother in Peace Rick.

Barney,

Jesus was making a comparison between the flood back in Noah's day to what is going to take place before His future judgment comes. In Noah's day, people were being warned but they mocked Noah. All those years while Noah was building the ark, the people must have thought he was crazy. A flood? Right! Up to that point, they had never even seen rain. And he's talking about God's judgment coming in the form of a flood? Even after Noah and his family entered the ark, the people were still living life as usual as if nothing was going to happen. And then the rain and the flood came. Do you think they were still mocking while they were drowning in the water?

It will be the same when Christ comes. People today are being warned but they also, like in Noah's day, they are mocking the gospel message. So Jesus is making a comparison.

Here's something very interesting. After God shut the door on the ark, do you know how long it was until it started raining? One week! That is prophecy. After the door was shut, they still didn't know it. That is why it says they didn't know it until the flood came. The flood came and took them all away. It was life as usual until it came, and it was sudden, and it was quick, and it was unexpected.

It will be the same when the Lord returns for His church. Back in Noah's day, the Lord saved Noah, his wife, his three brothers, and their wives. He saved them from the flood. It will be the same for believers. Jesus will come and remove His church from this earth, and just the same as the door of the ark was shut, when Christ removes us prior to His wrath being poured out on this earth, the door will be shut. There will be many outside the door pleading to be let in just to hear Jesus say depart, I never knew you. Just like those who mocked in Noah's day and were left out once the door was shut, it will be the same after Christ takes us away and shuts the door, as we see in Matthew chapter 25 with the parable of the 10 virgins.

I'm researching the Apocrypha in the 1611 KJV - will any of these books ever return to the KJV?

Kevin It is the Father God who raised Christ.

Hi Kevin.

Great question, We have the verse you mentioned.

God

1 Peter 1:21. Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

Holyspirit.

Romans 8:11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Jesus.

John 10:17-18. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

God bless.

Amen Brother Dan.

Here's a few that is over looked.

Hosea 5:14-15. For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear and go away; I will take away, and none shall rescue him.

Look below at verse 15, The same "I" in verse 14 is the same "I" in verse 15. and He in verse 15 is a prophesy of Christ after his ministry and his 2nd coming.

Verse 15: I WILL GO AND RETURN TO MY PLACE, TILL THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR OFFENCE, AND SEEK MY FACE: IN THEIR AFFLICTION THEY WILL SEEK ME EARLY.

Here's another.

Isaiah 40:3-5 . The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, MAKE STRAIGHT IN THE DESERT A HIGHWAY FOR "OUR GOD".

Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

Malachi 2:17. YE HAVE WEARIED THE LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or,

( WHERE IS THE GOD OF JUDGMENT?)

Next verse-

Malachi 3:1. BEHOLD, ("I") WILL SEND "MY" MESSENGER, AND HE SHALL PREPARE THE WAY BEFORE ME: ( AND THE LORD, WHOM YE SEEK,) shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. ( This is easily established that this is God speaking, )

God came as mentioned, "JESUS" and John the baptist prepared the way for him.

( EMMANUEL.) -God with us.

Matthew 1:23.

See here In Matthew 11:10. For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

God bless.

The Word If you want to focus on what's specifically written to the Church of God That's Romans thru Thessalonians that is what was Given to the apostle Paul by revelation from Jesus Christ Galatians 1:11+12 But I certify you brethren that the gospel which was preached of me was not after man. verse 12 For I neither received it of man neither was I taught it but by revelation of Jesus Christ. But remember all scripture is profitable. In His Service

Sarah Louise Vines Hello and God Bless First there is no tie in to covid vaccine and mark of the beast, also the Church of the Body of Christ will be up and away before the beast or the antichrist or the son of perdition is in power. These things will not go into full power until the church is taken up. P.S. If you got the covid shot your not going to hell if your born again. I have no idea where so called christians get this info from but it is not in scripture. In His Service

Dear Brother Spencer, Thank you for your love. If we want to know the love of our hearts to the brethren then we must be close enough to our brethren where they can see our conversation in life and reprove us as necessary. We can write here and quote scripture but it is difficult to see the love and humility within our lives, the same that the thirsty may witness. So there is the Church where we can greet with the Holy kiss and wash each others feet and hear and see the testimony of the faithful and see the parents teach the children and see hopefully in due time the same answer their call to God. Children becoming brothers and sisters in Christ increases our faith. The Spirit unifies these believers to make them of one heart and mind. But most importantly loving God with all their heart and mind and their neighbors as themselves.

:)

Carleton It is not called the peace that passes understanding for no reason, its not based on anything of this world it is spiritual peace with God. In His Service

Hi Sarah,

What scriptures are you gathering from that suggests the vaccine shot is the mark of the beast?

Thanks in advance.

Hi Brother Carleton.

It has been a busy week. Sorry for my late response.

1 John 2:1-2. is straight forward and a blessing to the whole world if the receive it.

Here is where I believe Is one of the most ignored and misunderstood sections in the scripture, considering its importance. ( NOTICE WHAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED )

1 John 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW THAT WE KNOW HIM, if we keep his commandments.

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: HEREBY KNOW WE THAT WE ARE IN HIM.

He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

HE THAT SAITH HE IS IN THE LIGHT, AND HATETH HIS BROTHER, IS IN DARKNESS EVEN UNTIL NOW.

( He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.)

BUT HE THAT HATETH HIS BROTHER IS IN DARKNESS, AND WALKETH IN DARKNESS, AND KNOWETH NOT WHITHER HE GOETH, BECAUSE THAT DARKNESS HATH BLINDED HIS EYES.

( This is divinely done by the Holyspirit, it's not left up to you! This is part of the gathering together, bound together by one Spirit.) "HEREBY we know" WE CAN KNOW!! The Spirit don't lie. So we should examine ourselves to see if the Holyspirit worketh in us. Confirmed ( NOT BY YOUR DOCTRINE ). But by Love for the BRETHREN.

Here's more-

John 13:34-35. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Peter understood what level of Love this is in John 21:15-17.

God bless.

Kevin In the context of 1 Peter starting at verse 19 But with the precious blood of Christ as of a lamb without blemish and without spot verse 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world but was manifest [brought into physical evidence] in these last times for you. This is talking about Jesus Christ, 21 Who by him Jesus Christ do believe in God that raised Him Jesus christ from the dead and gave him Jesus Christ glory that your faith and hope might be in God. In His Service

Hello Brother Rick, We never knew what peace and rest were until that born again moment. Peace was always evasive until that moment of repentance and forgiveness by the Holy Ghost at Calvary. Now we carry that peace with us as lambs if we remain faithful to the calling. We know when that peace diminishes yet like a well trained horse for the smallest needed change in direction in order to keep His peace we will gently heed. A blessing of sanctification really and a witness to the thirsty.

:)

Love that we are here together where we can at least write to one another Brother Jesse. Too bad we cannot sing together too. I hope all is well your way too.

Carleton

Thanks brother Carleton. Great to hear from you. Our peace is in Christ Jesus. He dwells in us and He is our peace!