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Hi dear sister's and brother's in Christ.

What is sentral in baptism by water, can also be a good speaking for your self. Like a clear conscience for God and them self. He the Lord understand everything anyway. I know ppl who cry out day and night becouse they dont think they have got the Holy Spirit. And I speak of ppl who never have being other places than in the society with christian ppl. So how does this come? God bless like the father and the lost son. And like in the wind who blowed over the earth yesterday or day before.

It is the promise of the word we depend on. Is it not?

Nowone is lost if they dont see for them self if they are baptised or not. Is it then a feeling_ Or is it a stage of living with God?

Can some ppl tell, who have the Holy Spirit? Yes.

All ppl can be useful for the Lord Him Self. Becouse He just look over who is ready today! Right now! It can be you or me or the youngest person in society. Becouse that person is ready to work right now.

I'll remembering in my first dayes with the Lord and the Easter came, ashamed. The doorway was closedown and it was like Jesus taking a holiday. Do He realy? Becouse everyone needed to be for them self's. At that stage i said that i can sit here if someone in the village need God. Ill be here and help them out. But it dont fall in good mudd. Nowone was willingly to offer Easter time for other than them self. My heart cryed out.

Remember it is a lot of work, and different work in the life with God. And ill pray that the society will fully be healed. And stop looking for the Holy Spirit in each other. But love and lift each other up instead to bring sorrow in heart to other ppl.

Becouse we all have the promise of the word.

I'll belive that everyone who believes in the Word and belive that Jesus is Gods son and that He died and stand up the third day. Everyone have the holy spirit. Some day clear and som day like in shadow. Becouse we are in the flesh. But God is not. God bless you all in Jesus name.

Hello Rick. I agree with your understanding of Ephesians 4:5. The 1 Corinthians 1:15-17 passage, I believe speaks of a water baptism, as in almost all cases of baptism, it refers to water baptism (e.g. Romans 6:3-5; 1 Peter 3:21; Colossians 2:12). Where the "hands of the apostle" were laid upon someone that is clearly a reference to an impartation of the Spirit (Spirit baptism) ( Acts 8:14-17; Acts 9:17; Acts 19:1-6). Or, as in Ephesians 4:5 (as you showed), plus 1 Corinthians 12:13. And yes, re-birth happens after one repents, believes, calling upon the Lord Jesus - there is no Grace communicated through water baptism.

Indeed, Acts 9:17,18 mentions the word 'baptism' & it could go either way, though I see it as Paul being water baptized. And then Acts 22:12-16, Paul rehearses the same event & speaks of him being instructed to "arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord". Do you see water baptism here or is still Spirit baptism?

The Acts 15 account, was about those men from Judaea & the believing sect of the Pharisees (v5), who wanted Gentile converts to be first circumcised & to keep the Law before they could be saved. But the decision was that neither was required (by the New Covenant in the Blood), except "that they (the Gentiles) abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood." (v20). Those are my thoughts anyway, in response. The Lord bless you.

Dear Sandra,

Because the experimental covid injections have killed so many thousands of people (possibly more than million worldwide) and because it has caused so many thousands of injuries 500k in the US and millions worldwide, and because people who get it are getting covid even easier than those without, and because it doesn't limit the spread either, I believe it's wrong to take it and immoral to push others to take it. I believe evil people are using this as a sick experiment to make billions in profits. They are calling most of the deaths from the injection as covid to continue pushing the lie. They also lie and call deaths from the injection as 'unvaccinated' deaths if within 14 days of the injection. Flu, pneumonia, and other diseases are almost disappeared only because they are simply calling it all 'covid' so they can make more money. It has bankrupted people and their banning of the antiviral meds that work like HCQ and Ivermectin is pure evil.

God gave us an immune system and wants us to take care of our bodies (which are God's property), like through eating right and exercise. People in fear are falsely assuming there's no alternative but to take this stupid untested death injection. Our God-given immune system is the #1 strongest fight against any virus. I don't understand why people are deathly afraid of something that isn't even the leading cause of death? The same fanatics have less fear for heart disease, cancer from smoking, alcohol and drug abuse, abortion, falling, and other deaths that are way more dangerous than covid. It's all about fear and propaganda pushing the fear. The CDC's death count isn't even correct. 600k have NOT died from it in the US. The CDC admits this in fine print on their own website. Only 5% of their deaths are due only to 'covid' and I suspect its even less than that. There is no evidence of a pandemic. Total deaths seem normal for the growing population. This may be the strong delusion the Bible talks about.

Here is a prayer to receive Jesus. Pray this prayer with sincerity of heart

"Dear God, I believe in you and that your Son, Jesus Christ, is Lord. I believe in His sacrifice for my sins and His resurrection from the dead. I repent and ask forgiveness for my sins and I'm deciding now to follow you. Please, come into my life through the gift of your Holy Spirit. It is in the Lord Jesus' name that I ask and receive, Amen."

The Bible says doing these things with sincerity means you are a Christian (Christ follower) and will have eternal life in heaven.

"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13

Use caution in trusting your feelings, as feelings change. Stand on God's promises- they never change.

Open up John chapter 3 and read that story to him.

God bless you both.

Romans 13:1 My work place (Christian) is using this verse to obey the mandate for the COVID vaccine or I loose my job.

Can someone help me, I feel that is misinterpreted. Thanks

Where is the scripture in the NT that says something like:. It is appointed for every man to die the first death...

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Re: observance of the Law. Matthew 23:1-3, "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not." The Scribes & Pharisees who "sat in Moses' seat" were certainly not representative of Moses' giving of the Law nor of its proper application, but the Lord spoke of obedience to it in respect to the Law that was given & not with the pharisaical 'heavy burdens' they placed on the people. And to this, the Lord attested in Matthew 15:1-9, that they transgressed God's Command by their traditions. So, I believe that the Commands of Christ were none of these, but the True Law of God & that which Jesus gave to His disciples: that of love, humility, sacrifice, service, etc. The things which the religious leaders knew little or nothing about.

Then, was the accusation against Paul correct (in Acts 21:18-21)? We're not told, nor does Paul refute it. But as far as Paul's consideration of the Law in the Light of the Cross, we can understand that he believed that under the New Covenant, the Old was abrogated ( Romans 7:4-6), as maybe seen in Acts 21:21, in the accusation of him forsaking "Moses'" (Law). Whether the Jew as under the Law & the Gentile was not, once both came INTO Christ (that mystery), they were released from the law & dead works by faith in Jesus & water baptism was the declaration of that breaking away & cleaving to the Risen One. Water baptism was the ultimate defining witness of a hell-bound soul now entering into a life with Christ. Why should this apply to a Jewish convert & not a Gentile, I cannot find in the Scriptures; considering that Gentiles were also baptised in water in the NT. May the Lord guide us in this matter.

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Brother ChrisE. Yes, I do enjoy a good discussion/debate as I'm always interested to learn of other's viewpoints & why they have developed & settled on a particular belief. Even with this matter on Baptism, I know that my grandfather forbad his wife & four sons to be baptized in water & in fact, also rejected observing the Lord's Supper, as both being not applicable after the establishment of the Church & the end of the apostolic age. You may not see it in the same way, but I was too young ( 4 yrs old) to be able to question him about it, as he passed away soon after.

So, I don't consider you as one "confused or an heretic", but one having arrived at these conclusions based on things that I don't see in Scripture; e.g. the requirement of the initial Jewish baptisms being first "brought into the Israeli priesthood". I won't deal with "Paul not being sent to baptize" matter, as he stated that he DID baptize others (even some that he couldn't recall), but I believe that baptism wasn't the thrust of his ministry, probably leaving it to others after delivering the Gospel & ensuring that the convert was ushered into Church follow-up.

As far as the "Revelation of the Mystery", as Ephesians 3:2-7 declares, that the mystery was "That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel" (v6), that which was unknown in ages past.

Yes. I'm a born again believer. But for a very long time I struggled with homosexuality thoughts. Never gave into them until a couple of yrs ago. I don't know why the devil targeted me. I just want to be loved. Accepted. Please pray 4 me. I see I really could use an accountability / prayer partner.

Thank you. I had a hard time believing God could forgive me for what I did and still love me. I really could use some accountability. I've been praying asking God to search my heart.

The falling away, simply means people have fallen in to the deception of the anti- Christ ,.. an that will certainly be one of his messages, " I've come to rapture you away " !!! So yes , being careful is so very correct,..

Did John the Baptist realize when Jesus came to be Baptized that Jesus was his cousin?

I had to read mathew 5:18 23 -25 ,i'm feeling defeated trying to call those who say they know the road to jesus christ and father ,to believe is free ,i was found by god ,i made threw a surgery on my intestine bursted i sat at home wth my 4 month old lil girl ,i knew at 104.5 temp getting there 14 hours after was my death most likely ,i was waitin for surgeons wth this emergency surgery in pain and wondering ,i said lord thru my tears if u really are alive and hear please god come please help me, they came i was instantly put under ,the next thing my god lord of lords was carrying me into heaven,all stress ,anxiety ,worry and the most glorifying love i have ever felt ,i was going home so happy ,ready in his loving arms,we stopped he shown me my baby and i remembered finally ,i have a baby,he shot me back into my body ,it was horrible pain like i smashed concrete,i was mad awhile ,i wanted back,this place is horrible in comparison.now im happy and i tell all of his love and forgiveness but u must be by his side and listen he will giv u clues listen

Earl I'll tell you right now that not all my choices are made by the spirit, thats being honest. I know of no man who walks by the spirit 24/7 except the Lord Jesus Christ. In His Service

ChrisE I'm sorry was not following conversation correctly, My understanding verse 5 called saul out, verse 6 saul trembling ]the word is tremo absolute terror, this guy went from no fear bold as brass to absolute terror because his head is saying whats going on but still says what do you want me to do. No where in that whole conversion did the lord beat him up or condemn him, why because he was doing it out of ignorance.

Saul is three days no sight still going what just happened. The lord says to Ananias by the spirit go see Saul very specific instructions. Saul is not born again yet in verse 15 the lord is telling Ananias by the spirit He is a chosen vessel unto me, the lord is saying I have called him out and chose Ananias to minister to saul.

In verse 17 Ananias walks in putting his hands on him to comfort him and says brother saul another comfort, next words the lord that appeared unto you sent me another comfort because saul is still in shock so to speak hath sent me for thee to receive thy sight and be filled with Holy Ghost or spirit.

That's when he was healed physically and was baptized spiritually. I don't believe laying on hands is always necessary I believe that's specific instructions given by the spirit in a specific situation. That's my understanding In His Service

Brother Rick, We make thousands of choices every day, but the Spirit causes us to make those choices.

Jesus made choices everyday he walked in the flesh, but he knew his choices were all caused by the SPIRIT. I came to do the will of my Father (the Spirit). Of myself (without the Spirit) I can do nothing.

Coming to this truth is how we will be able to judge the world in RIGHTEOUSNESS with Christ. The Spirit causes us to judge as the Spirit causes Christ to judge. Can two walk together (be one) except they be agreed? ( Amos 3:3)

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (the Spirit) that WORKETH in you (creation, mankind) Both TO WILL (he cause his will to be your will) (he causes his choices to be your choices) and TO DO (the works he wants your labour to accomplish) his good pleasure.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL put my SPIRIT within you, and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my JUDGEMENTS, AND DO THEM.

Ephesians 1:11 In whom (in the Spirit) also we have obtained an inheritance (being ONE , IN AGREEMENT with the Spirit), being predestinated according to the purpose(THE WILL) (of the Spirit) who WORKETH all things after the counsel of his (the Spirits) own will (not our will).

What wood was the cross made of that Jesus was crucified on

Brother Clayton,

Jesus speaks this scripture below that is very easy to understand.

John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Matthew 18:3

"And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."

It is not necessary to become bible scholars to understand bible scripture. But, we must become children, be born again of water and the Spirit - and believe!

God Bless.

Amen, Rev. Mohan.

God does speak through his word, "accurately".

God bless.

No scorn like a woman's! John waisted no time ....... wasted!

The church does not use the kjv ,because it is the truth! ....I am the church. I use the KJV.

Seems you maybe 'King James only' proponent. If so, not good.

Brother Jimmy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

You are the church (house of God) (temple of the Spirit), Christ (the WORD)(the Holy Spirit) is your pastor (shepherd).

1 John 2:27 But the anointing (by the WORD) you have received of HIM (your pastor, the WORD) abideth IN YOU, and you need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing (the WORD) teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him (the WORD).

Stop spending you time in the world (television, internet, etc.) and spend it in church (not the ones made of brick) with you pastor (not flesh).

ChrisE Another point in Acts 9:17 Ananias put his hands on him and said brother Saul he would have never said that unless God showed him by revelation that he was going to believe and receive also what a tremendous greeting of love, because if I were Saul I would still have been in absolute shock. So God had to comfort Ananias so Ananias could bless Saul absolutely incredible the way God worked. That word Filled is pletho which is to make full internally, its good stuff. In His Service

Brother Alex, keep proclaiming the word, the Spirit will give HIS (the ones the Father draws to him) ears to hear at HIS (the Spirits) appointed time.

It's appointed to man ONCE TO DIED (by the sword, the words of God); then JUDGEMENT, LIFE by the TRUTH of God's word.

WE DIE in Christ (the first death and first resurrection) before our body of flesh dies.

Those in the resurrection of the flesh, will then have to go through the second death (DIE IN CHRIST). Just as those that had their part in the first death and resurrection.



God is no respector of persons; but every man has an APPOINTED TIME.

ChrisE We could get into some really good stuff but this isn't the place or format. In His Service

ChrisE I agree its all good. In His Service

Paul Brother disregard last comment, not correctly communicated. In His Service

What is the job of the pastor in a church

spongeRick: "When Paul was born again in Acts 9:17+18 in verse 18 the word baptize is baptizo which can be translated on or in depending on context."

The spongeChrisE understanding It Is Written - Did you mean Acts 9:17-18? :)

Q: Was not Paul saved ON the road to Damascus ( Acts 9:3-6), By God's GRACE And MERCY ( Titus 3:4-7), thus making him OUR "pattern" Under GRACE ( 1 Timothy 1:16), and The Body Of CHRIST, 'Beginning The ONE NEW man' {a 'Different GRACE Entity' than the LAW assembly at Pentecost?}, with Paul ( Ephesians 2:15)?

Because, IF the "pattern" is to have a Spirit-filled Jew to HEAL our infirmities, and lay hands on us for the filling of The Holy Spirit, Many are not going to be saved, eh?

Notice, Christ Told the 'hesitant' Ananias, "...he IS a CHOSEN vessel Unto ME...," not, "he WILL BE chosen..." thus already "saved Earlier, ON the road to Damascus," Correct?

Thus, my understanding is "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing By The WORD Of God,"

hearing The Gospel Of GRACE, believing It, And being BAPTIZED 'BY' The Holy Spirit Into The {Spiritual} Body Of CHRIST, Seated In Heaven, In the twinkling of an eye," Correct?

Of course, we could discuss Further the confusing 'Mixture' of being "Baptized by Christ, WITH The {Filling Of The} Holy Spirit, for power, signs, and wonders, as at the Pentecostal {LAW assembly}, compared to Paul's:

ONE {Spiritual} Baptism 'BY' The Holy Spirit For Identification with/Into The Body Of CHRIST {GRACE assembly}, Thus, Fitting MUCH Better With OUR "pattern," Paul, eh?

I never thought Great Bible study would "sponging together" with a brother :)

When a person is dying do they need to confess Jesus is Lord and God raised him the dead . So they will be saved when they die? Chapter and verse please!

Precious brother Chris, I appreciate your Great discussion with me. I have posted for several years, and you are The Very First to consider/discuss these things. The rest have just written me off as confused or a heretic (denying Acts 2:38). So, in my understanding of (NOT denying) it:

I believe Paul "did baptize some" during God's Transition from Law (with water) to HIS PURE GRACE (Without water!). Most think that the great commission to the Twelve apostles of Israel, is 'exactly the same' as the commission to Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles. This does not make sense since CHRIST told the Twelve THEY "WERE SENT"

to baptize, while CHRIST told Paul he "WAS NOT SENT to baptize." {the same thing?}

I cannot reconcile that for today, because God Gave Paul A 'Different' Program, The Revelation Of The MYSTERY, With The Gospel Of GRACE, And the "commission of Reconciliation" Because of CHRIST's Finished Work on The Cross!

( Romans 16:25) ( Colossians 1:20) ( 2 Corinthians 5:17-21) + ( 2 Corinthians 6:2)

Thus, I believe This "Hid In God" Revelation ( Ephesians 3:9) Must Be:

Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

Many 'assume' The Gospel Of GRACE was Immediately preached after the cross, but

closer Prayerful/Careful examination reveals:

1) LAW was preached, obeyed, and taught to "thousand of Jewish believers"

( Matthew 28:19-20) Notice: Christ Specifically Said "teaching them TO OBSERVE ALL things I HAVE COMMANDED you" - one of them was Matthew 23:1-3, Correct?

2) Water baptized Jewish believers OBEYED ALL CHRIST's Commands, SOLD EVERYTHING, And were "zealous of The LAW," even as late as Acts 21:20!

3) IF the great commission IS FOR US today, then I see NO ONE "obeying it as these were!"

Thus, Chris, I just cannot reconcile LAW "being Exactly THE SAME as" GRACE ( Romans 11:6)

More 'available' on church birthday, and The ONE Baptism {a 'verse for annulment of water'?} "study" of today, IF you wish... Thanks Again, and Be Well, Precious brother!