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Alison,

Hebrews 10:26 is not referring to saved believers. The writer of Hebrews is speaking to unsaved Hebrew people. He says, for if we sin willfully, that is, we go back to serving the principle of sin, after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,

We know from Hebrews Chapter 6 that those who were enlightened, that are no longer coming for fellowship, just because they were enlightened doesn't mean they're saved.

The Lord can enlighten someone as to the knowledge of the truth, they know the truth, they have seen the truth, they understand the truth, but have never surrendered their life to Christ.

That's what was taking place here. They were following along and being enlightened, but wouldn't surrender their lives to Christ because they would be severely persecuted for turning away from Judaism and receiving Christ as their Messiah. For them, it was much easier to go back to Judaism.

It says, "If we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,

The writer is speaking to Jewish/Hebrew people who were being enlightened to the truth, but instead of turning away from Judaism and surrendering their life to Christ, they were considering going back into Judaism.



What this verse is saying is that if they go back into old Judaism, they're not going to find any sacrifice there that's going to take care of their sin problem if you leave Christ.

The consequences of a true believer who continues in sin, if they are truly saved, the Lord will deal with them. He disciplines those who truly belong to Him. And sometimes His discipline can be pretty harsh!

Another thing I believe, and I think scripture backs it up, is that someone who is truly born of the Spirit of God, that person will no longer live a lifestyle of sin because the Spirit in them will convict them of their sin and keep them from habitually practicing sin.

i do not know how 2 or 3 people can read romans 11 chapter an get 2 or 3 oppenions except for humanisum

@Earl,

Thank You.

@Mishael,

Again, Thank You.

KHALIL,

You have perfectly described a person who has never been saved. The only thought I have concerning your last statement is that there is no such thing as Christians who want to be saved. But you are right on concerning those who continue to live a lifestyle of sin. Thank you for sharing that!

Where do i find the verse all thingbwork for the good tothose in Christ Jesus?

Hi Dgjot.

Something went terribly wrong with the links i attempted to post.

Read Romans 7:23 on through Romans 8:13. with verses 11 thru 13 being the end result.

" But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also QUICKEN YOUR MORTAL BODIES BY HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU.

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live."

We all have an inward battle but that life giving spirit conducts our walk. You may grieve the spirit but our great shepherd will never leave us.

Hebrews 10:14. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

2 Timothy 1:12. For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

God bless.

( Revelation 7:14-15) The first resurrection:

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

( Revelation 21:3-7) The second resurrection:

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of Godiswith men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them,and betheir God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

"One of Us" comes full circle:

Genesis1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness...

Genesis 3:22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us...

To whom is psalm speaking to?

Can beastiality ever be forgiven and if you take a long time to really repent

God loves us so much that he died for me let me live for him

If some one continue committing adulatory sin until his last breath on earth, then it means he refused to be saved, thus God will respect his decision and will not include him in the list of those who admitted to be saved. Keep in mind confessing your faith in Jesus and his salvation just by your lips without proving so by your deeds and stick to to the teachings of Jesus will not save you. Jesus in Luke 13:5, says: " I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish ". And in Jacob 2:26, says: " For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead ". Saying by your lips that you believe in Jesus whilst living sinful life it is nonsenses.

I don't understand why Christians who want to be saved and benefit from the grace of salvation keep living sinful life. Why not to get married instead of committing adulatory?.

Hi Dgjot.

As promised I would like to elaborate a little further on your great questions.

I think we covered your 1st question, "Does that verse apply to the unsaved exclusively, or does it apply to the "saved" (but somewhat backslidden)?

You said you have wished terrible things on wicked people and Quoted I felt this heaviness weighing on me. It would not go away. I was terrified. My waking thoughts were of damnable things. I asked God every day, "What is this? Why do I feel this doom and gloom?" You seem to have a heavy heart behind those thoughts. This sounds like everyday struggle in a Christians life providing he or she is a believer regardless of the severity of the sin. Concerning the struggle it sounds like Paul in Romans 7:23-25. Link

You stated "Why would Jesus keep sticking up for a habitual sinner like me?" I don't know your spiritual condition but from what you have shared I supposed the habitual sin is the damnable thoughts you mentioned earlier.

Dgjot a habitual sinner in my opinion was never a saved person. But I'm not sure you fall in that category.

You mentioned a friend of yours told you to read Romans 8:1. And you read that verse many times. to put it into context for your situation you may have to take it from Romans 7:23-25. thru Romans 8:11.

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"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, ( who walk NOT after the flesh,) but after the Spirit." This is done by the spirit.

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By the death and resurrection of Christ we wasn't just justified we were sanctified and being sanctified and some day be Glorified.

Revelation 21:8 has nothing to do with a believer loosing his salvation.

God bless.

1 Corinthians 7 is the marriage chapter.

1 Corinthians 13 is the love chapter.

To enter into a relationship without Gods blessing, can be doomed because there is no commitment to God. They are doing it the way of the world. I often use Genesis 24, for young people looking for a perfect mate.

I would advise counseling for them.

And you need to bring this burden, or outrage, before the Lord, to be forgiven and walk in forgiveness, before the Lord.

You know Adam and Eve didn't have a big Church wedding. The Lord married them. Genesis 2:22 to Genesis 2:25.

We get better results when we pray for others. Cast all these cares upon the Lord, walk in peace and the Lord will sort out the details.

Understood Glenn God Bless.

Dgjot I don't believe your fear is Godly, 2 Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us the Spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind. The word fear is the word deilia which means timidity, we live in the age of grace that's not license to sin, in contrast in Hebrews 4: 16 Let us therefore come boldly or fearlessly no timidity unto the throne of grace that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. A great record of Gods love displayed through jesus christ in luke 5:4 Jesus Christ says to simon peter launch out into the deep and let down your nets for a draught. Now Simon being the fishing professional said Master we have toiled all night and taken nothing but at thy word I'll let down the net. Wait a second Didn't Jesus Christ say let down the nets plural, so did Simon do what he was told nope and yet they were blessed with fish verses 6-8 go tons of fish. When Simon saw it he fell down at Jesus knees and said depart from me for I am a sinful man lord, look how bad this guy felt.Whats the savior do your right guy your an idiot and I don't want to have nothing to do with you. Quite the opposite Never mentions the error or sin and says fear [the word fear is phobeo to cause to terrify] not from henceforth thou shalt catch men and they still got the fish. It's a matter of where's your heart not where's head the disciples questioned him all the time that doesn't make them evil. All the actions that Jesus Christ did were a blessing and it scared the ---- out of peter.If you think about we probably would have done the same thing. Just some stuff to consider. God Bless

Dgjot; You are HIS POSSESSION, He is not going to FAIL to bring you to the FULLNESS of HIMSELF.

He does't consider OUR worthiness; he does all this for us, because of who HE IS.

He is faithful, not us.

Be steadfast in this TRUTH.

You don't have to do anything; whatever is needed in your life to bring you to the likeness of himself, he WILL CAUSE you to DO IT.

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD that WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO of his good pleasure.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL put my Spirit within you, and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes, and you shall keep my judgements, and DO THEM.

Rest in this TRUTH and life becomes really easy (even when it is hard).

It happens. God knows you sorrow in your heart. Read Psalm 51.

And then read 1 John 1:9. Bend your knee and pray what that chapter is saying...from your heart.

You're not the only one who this has happened to.

Main thing to follow, is Jesus; His Bible. Get more and more of that in you. Be selective of things we all watch on media.

I've had 35 years to fall in love with the Holy Spirit. He's God; 3rd person of the Godhead. Had a part in creation of this world we live in. Every relationship is a process of getting to know each other. Not all is smooth sailing at first.

Read John chapters 14-17 and learn about the Comforter. Jesus went to the Cross to bring the Holy Spirit to us. The be inside. Reverence Him.

@Mishael,



Thank You. I will look that up.

Amen, Cassundra! The Power Of CHRIST, Found In HIS ALL-Sufficient GRACE!:

"And HE Said Unto me, MY GRACE Is Sufficient For thee: For MY Strength Is Made Perfect In weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that The Power Of CHRIST May Rest Upon me!" ( 2 Corinthians 12:9)

Blasphemy would be as when Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, and all the people said he did that by the power of satan.

Or someone is healed at church and they say the same thing. Or someone speaks in tongues during praise, worship or corporate prayer.

I choose not to judge these things. We are to exercise righteous judgment. I had to learn not to judge. Whatever the Holy Spirit does is always to glorify Jesus.

You can Google

"grieve or quench the Holy Spirit, teaching"

And read the commentaries on it.

It's actually very serious and we all should look that up.

Rehoboam refused the advice of the elders and chose to add to the burdens of the people. Jeroboam took the other ten tribes and left. God allowed man to do what was in their heart. We can claim to be under God, but if don't know Him, or have no relationship with the Lord and chose to go our own way - evil will befall us.

From the top leadership down to the people themselves, they have forgotten the blessings from God. Many times we believe the blessings from the Lord is of our own doing and therefore forget to thank God and worship Him, or to call on the Lord.

We must keep ourselves near to God by confessing our sins, reading, meditating, praising, worshipping, praying, and remembering His continued goodness. Then we must teach the same to our children less we allow anything to slip. God bless our nation and our leadership. August 2021

Yes , but my meaning is , divorce is not the unforgivable sin , an you need no special forgiveness from a church or man , simply repent, pray , an carry on with your life ,..

Hi Dgjot.

I like to add to my reply being I don't think I covered all your concerns.

I didn't thoroughly read your post and it deserves a lot more than I given it.

My apologies.

I'm attempting to refresh your Post so some can go into greater debt.

I f not I will attempt to do so once I get home from work in a few hours

God bless.

Thank You, S Spencer.

Thanks Dianne. I wondered if I was the only one who ever went through this kind of thing.

The question still is: have I committed Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit by grieving the Holy Spirit?

I'm terrified.

AG Peterson The person playing with a full deck is Jesus Christ all others are cheating, and the only way to know Him is through Gods Word, He is the True Shepherd, John 10:9+10 The thief cometh not but for to steal and to kill and to destroy I am come that they might have life and have it more abundantly. In Gospel of John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy word, thy word is truth. There's no other source for truth Gods Word makes known Christ. God Bless

Ronald....if you do not believe that those three things are one...how do you think you exist? Father, Spirit and the Word (Jesus) ARE all the same!! Just as those three substances make up mankind on this Earth!!??

Thomas From what I researched these were so called christians who believed they didn't have to change any pagan practices and didn't have to follow the apostles doctrine. In pergamos they had a temple where inside an Cast Iron bull they burned human sacrifices alive. An interesting piece of history, Adolf Hitler was heavy into the occult sent people there to move the temple to germany where to this day there is a full scale replica of the temple built with the bull. Hitler believed things dealing with the occult gave him more power.

Hi AG Peterson.

Throw those cards in the trash!! They will be harmful to you!!

1 Timothy 2:5. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;