Bible Discussion Replies PAGE 136

  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Dan:

    The us is the FATHER and his SON, two not three.

    The Father does ALL THINGS through the SON, Christ Jesus.

    The son has a GOD (Spirit) and a FATHER (spirit of truth and LIFE), there are TWO not THREE. Christ is the BODY of his GOD, as we are the BODY of his SON, Christ. Christ ONLY speaks and does as his Father CAUSES him TO WILL and TO DO; as we ONLY WILL and DO as Christ CAUSES us to will and to do.

    1 John 2:22 .... he is anti-christ (anti-truth) that denieth the Father and SON ..... TWO not THREE.

    God Bless YOU!

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 1 year ago
    SoloScript,

    True, I have not found the word trinity in the Bible, and it is a man made word to explain the (3) that bear witness in heaven.

    The bible tells us the following:

    Genesis 1:26

    "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

    In the above verse it says: "And God said, Let US make in our own image,

    Who is God referring to when He says US? God could have said I will make, but instead He said "Let US make"

    I believe that we find the answer to who the US is, in this verse:

    1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

    There are three that bear record in heaven!

    The word Trinity meaning:

    -the Christian Godhead as one God in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

    -a group of three people or things

    People refer to: trinity, triune, etc.

    There are (3) entities in heaven, God, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Amen
  • SolaScrip - In Reply - 1 year ago
    "Bro dan - in Reply

    SolaScrip,

    True Christ Followers will be obedient to all of God's 10 Commandments as taught by Jesus in the New Testament."

    Well, God's 10 Commandments are identical to Christ's Commandments. Christ didn't change, minimize or abbreviate them in any way. Christ is the Creator of all things and He created the Commandments - there would be no reason for Him to change or rescind any of them.

    Christ speaks of obeying the Law, the 10 Commandments, just as they are taught by the scribes and Pharisees in Matt. 23:1-3. He says to "do as they say, but not as they do" because the teachers of the Law at that time were all hypocrites. They taught the 10 Commandments, but kept none of them. That passage proves that Jesus taught the literal keeping of the 10 Commandments, not just the essence, or spirit, of them in our hearts, etc.

    Jesus stated, as you pointed out, that He kept all of the Father's 10 Commandments physically when He declared it in John 15:10.

    We see that 1 John makes clear that we are to live as Jesus lived, obeying what He obeyed, in 1 John 2:6. That does not support the modern popular teaching that we are only to obey them in spirit. And if Jesus had any intention of teaching that Christians did not need to keep them literally, we would not have the record of the disciples keeping the Saturday Sabbath immediately after Christ's death on the Cross in Luke 23:54-56. We also would not see Paul being labeled by the elders as a "Keeper of the Law" in Acts 21:24.

    "IF a Christian is filled with God's Holy Spirit they will naturally be following all of God's/Jesus Commandments."

    I would agree with this, but that just means that the vast majority of professed Christians today are not filled with the Holy Spirit because most Christians do not obey the 10 Commandments.

    Jesus says that it is the keeping of the 10 Commandments that is pre-requisite for receiving 'HIM' as the Holy Spirit in John 14:21.
  • SolaScrip - In Reply - 1 year ago
    "Bro dan - in Reply

    SolaScrip,

    True Christ Followers will be obedient to all of God's 10 Commandments as taught by Jesus in the New Testament."

    Well, God's 10 Commandments are identical to Christ's Commandments. Christ didn't change, minimize or abbreviate them in any way. Christ speaks of obeying the Law, the 10 Commandments, just as they are taught by the scribes and Pharisees in Matt. 23:1-3. He says to "do as they say, but not as they do" because the teachers of the Law at that time were all hypocrites. They taught the 10 Commandments, but kept none of them. That passage proves that Jesus taught the physical keeping of the 10 Commandments, not just the essence, or spirit, of them in our hearts, etc.

    Jesus stated, as you pointed out, that He kept all of the Father's 10 Commandments physically when He declared it in John 15:10.

    We see that 1 John makes clear that we are to live as Jesus lived, obeying what He obeyed, in 1 John 2:6. That does not support the modern popular teaching that we are only to obey them in spirit. And if Jesus had any intention of teaching that Christians did not need to keep them literally, we would not have the record of the disciples keeping the Saturday Sabbath immediately after Christ's death on the Cross in Luke 23:54-56. We also would not see Paul being labeled by the elders as a "Keeper of the Law" in Acts 21:24.

    "IF a Christian is filled with God's Holy Spirit they will naturally be following all of God's/Jesus Commandments."

    I would agree with this, but that just means that the vast majority of professed Christians today are not filled with the Holy Spirit because most Christians do not obey the 10 Commandments.

    Jesus says that it is the keeping of the 10 Commandments that is pre-requisite for receiving 'HIM' as the Holy Spirit in John 14:21.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    AMEN Brother Giannis:

    Very few preach and teach the GOOD NEWS of the gospel of the Kingdom of God.

    WE were RESURRECTED as joint heirs of Christ.

    Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery .... CHRIST IN YOU .... the glory of God .....

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Jema - 1 year ago
    I hope you are all keeping your eyes on Israel . Thy Kingdom Come ! :) .
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 1 year ago
    SolaScrip,

    True Christ Followers will be obedient to all of God's 10 Commandments as taught by Jesus in the New Testament.

    Luke 9:23"And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."

    John 14:15"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Keeping God's 10 Commandments - plus the additional commandment that Jesus emphasized - to Love each other.

    John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."

    Jesus warns all of us that we will not enter into Salvation without keeping God's Commandments.

    Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."

    IF a Christian is filled with God's Holy Spirit they will naturally be following all of God's/Jesus Commandments.

    It's IMPOSSIBLE to live a worldly life and be a Christ follower.

    Happy Sabbath Day!
  • Bro dan - 1 year ago
    Meditation for today, obedience.

    2 Corinthians 10:5 "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;"

    - Strive to keep worldly thoughts out of our mind.

    - Nothing in this world can compare to God's creations, and what he has promised us if we follow Christ.

    - Concentrate on being obedient to Jesus/God's words by turning from fleshy desires and replacing with prayer.

    - Pray for the ability to really love everyone as Jesus tells us to do.

    Feel free to share your thoughts on obedience to God.

    Happy Sabbath Day!
  • SolaScrip - In Reply - 1 year ago
    "Richard H Priday

    INVISIBLE; NO IMAGE; NO IMAGINATION OF MAN

    Acts 17:29

    states:

    Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man.

    God has many warnings in scripture regarding not making idols of created beings or heavenly objects such as the moon and stars. This verse shows how God cannot be reduced to a man made concept or picture."

    Would you not then agree that the concept of the trinity falls under such category as an "IMAGE and IMAGINATION OF MAN"?

    If the concept is not taught anywhere in the Bible, that succinctly defines it as a creation/imagination of man.

    The concept of God being three persons is an IDOL, it is an IMAGE created by the IMAGINATION OF MAN.

    This IDOL has been sold to the masses, it has been delivered to hundreds of millions, if not billions, who accept and embrace it without question or personal investigation into its Scriptural authenticity.

    It is a lie of man.
  • Jesse A - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Karen, I'm (Jesse A) Not the other gentleman Jesse

    That also posts here.

    Speaking in tounges is not a (must) to always be interpreted .

    Let us look to scriptures to seek the truth and not take verses out of context.

    Speaking in tounges is a spiritual gift given from god.

    It is not always a known language, like in acts on the day of pentecost.

    We can find the answer in Corinthians 1 ch 14. If we read the whole chapter we find the whole truth and wont cherry pick it.

    Corinthians 1 ch 14 vs2

    For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

    This tells us it is an unknown language, a Holy language .That NO man understands. Including himself. It is the spirit in him that is speaking with God.

    The Holyghost in the person speaks in a Holy language speaking directly to God. For edification of himself.

    If God sees fit that speaking in tounges is for the church there will be an interpretation.

    Now Speaking in tounges with no interpretation is very biblically sound as well .

    We find this in the same chapter. 1 Corinthians ch14 vs 4

    He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

    Yes by all means pray for the gift of prophecy along with all other gifts of the spirit, that God sees fit for our life and our purpose in him.That we may be obedient to Gods will .

    I pray God will Bless you without measure, overflowing. With all the gifts of the spirit according to His will for your life.

    GB I love you all.
  • Jimbob - In Reply - 1 year ago
    One eighty thank you for your comment, I really appreciate your kind words of encouragement.

    The words of the LORD are pure words. ( Ps 12:6-7) (pure) is #2889; it means sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.

    Every word of God is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (Every) is #3605; it means the whole, all, any or every.

    For the word of God is (quick) and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword ( Hebrews 4:12) (quick) #2198 it means to live, alive. The word of God is Alive, the word of God is not confusion!

    God is not the author of confusion ( 1 Cor 14:33) (confusion) is #181; it means instability, i.e. disorder, inconstant, unstable.

    All these different modern version bibles that change words and completely leave out whole verses are instability, disorder, they are inconstant, they are unstable! Many have changed their own words several different times! ( 1 Cor 1:10) Telle us "that we all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among us, but that we be perfectly joined together in the same mind"..

    ( Jer 23:36) "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.

    The words of the LORD are pure words, (pure) #2889; sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.

    It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by ((every word)) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. ( Mt 4:4)

    EVERY WORD!

    "For we are not as many, which (corrupt) the word of God".. ( 2 Cor 2:17) (corrupt) is #2585; it means to retail, (to adulterate).

    This is doctrine that's not sound doctrine, but it is instability, inconstant, and unstable! ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) IT IS CORRUPT!

    Remember the words of the LORD are pure words, they are sound, (unadulterated), uncontaminated.

    One eighty look up ( Ps 12:7) in your Niv bible and compare it with the KJB.

    Also compare ( Mark 11:26) and ( Eph 3:9) in your Niv with the KJB.

    And here's a really big one to compare ( Col 1:14)

    This is the definition of (perverted), #2015 it means to change.

    God Bless you, and all who seek His Truth.
  • SolaScrip - In Reply - 1 year ago
    There is only one True type of Christian.

    Those who follow the ways of Christ. ( 1 Jn. 2:6)

    The followers of Christ who obeyed the 10 Commandments immediately after Christ's death on the Cross in Luke 23:54-56 were True Christians even if the term wasn't recorded yet. Those who walked along side Christ were Christians while Christ was still alive physically upon the earth.

    Yes, many profess to be, and call themselves, Christians today.

    Yet True Christians obey the 10 Commandments as Christ obeyed and taught them. ( Jn. 15:10)( Matt. 23:1-3)
  • Telehelp - 1 year ago
    The Prayer of an aged Man

    Thought for Today - October 7, 2023

    The Prayer of an Aged Man

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    "In thee,O Lord do I put my trust: Let me never be put to confusion.

    Deliver me in thy righteousness, and cause me to escape; incline thine ear unto me, and save me

    Be thou my strong habitation; where unto I may continually resort:

    thou hast given commandment to save me: for thou art my rock and my fortress.

    Deliver me, O my God, out of the hand of the wicked, out of the hand of the unrighteous and cruel man . For thou art my hope, O Lord God: thou art my trust from my youth

    By thee have I been holden up from the womb; thou art he that took me out of my mother's bowels: my praise shall be continually of thee.

    I am as a wonder unto many; but thou art my strong refuge

    Let my mouth be filled with thy praise and with thy honor all the day.Cast me not off in the time of old age; forsake me not when my strength faileth. For mine enemies speak against me; and they that lay wait for my soul take counsel together.

    O God, be not far from me; O my God, make haste for my help. My mouth shall show forth thy righteousness and thy salvation all the day, for I know not the number thereof.

    I will go in the strength of the Lord God: I will make mention of thy righteousness even of thine only. Now also when I am old and gray headed, O God forsake me not until I have shewed thy strength unto this generation; and thy power to every one that is to come.

    Thy righteousness also, O God, is very high, who hast done great things: O God, who is like unto thee! Thou which hast shewed me great and sore troubles, shalt quicken me again, and shalt bring me up again from the depths of the

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  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear Friend

    If my memory serve me correctly, you're a former professional educator,,,,,,,, you do not perceive what has been plainly stated?

    Gigi,,,,,,,,let us all join together in the love & fear of God, in His love one for another

    & allow Him free reign in our hearts, to the perfecting of our faith that He may cleanse us with the washing of the water of His words

    2Cor 7:1 the breath of God uses the words, "dearly beloved"

    Titus 2:14 who gave Himself freely, then & now

    All power in heaven & in earth has been given unto Him,

    knowing all thoughts & intents of the heart, He patiently awaits our response

    Please come,,,, whosoever will come..........

    your friend in Christ

    Grace & Peace be to you & to all & especially to all who love His appearance
  • Koosees - In Reply - 1 year ago
    When they first called those who taught and followed Christ, Christians.

    Acts 11:26

    And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."

    Lots of people, church goers, different denominations. All saying they're are Christians, when there is only One Christ.

    Glory to God on earth as it is in Heaven. God Bless and keep striving.
  • Koosees - 1 year ago
    Jesus Christ speaking about The Holy Ghost...

    Matthew 12:31-32

    31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

    32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
  • Jimbob - 1 year ago
    The words, scripture, prophecy, and a book all = The KJB.

    ( Ps 12:6) The (words) of the LORD are pure (words)..

    (words) is #565; it means commandment, something said.

    ( Proverbs 30:6) Add thou not unto his (words) lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

    (words) in this verse is #1697; it means a book, chronicles, commandment, commune (-cation) promise, saying, sentence, (concerning) thought. (The words we are told not to add unto are in (a book)

    ( Isa 34:16) Seek ye out of the (book) of the LORD, and read,..

    (book) is #5612; it means writing (the art or a document) by implying a book, evidence, learn (-ed) (-ing) letter.

    ( 2 Tim 3:16) All (scripture) is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

    (scripture) is #1124; it means a document, i.e. holy Writ (or its contents or a statement in it) to grave. to write, to describe.

    ( 2 Pet 1:20-21) The word (scripture) has the same meaning as above #1124, a document, holy Writ.

    (prophecy) is #4394; it means prediction (scriptural or other) a foreteller, an inspired speaker.

    ( Rev 1:2-3) v2 Who bare record of the (word of God) and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. v3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear (the words) (of this prophecy) and keep those things (which are written) therein: for the time is at hand.

    ( Rev 22:18-19) v18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the ((words of the prophecy of this book)), If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. v19 And if any man shall take away from the ((words of the book of this prophecy)), God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    ( Ps 12:6-7) v7 Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

    (preserve) is #5341; it means to guard, to protect, maintain, obey.
  • Koosees - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Forgot to mention Finis Dake, they got some old clips of him on YouTube. Audio recording with assorted Bible questions. The Bible he really teaches is not hard. Check him out, you will as I learn that it is not a complicated book. Once you do, you be in the Bible understanding scriptures like it was intended to be. Won't need commentary after, just a dictionary once in a while. God Bless again Brother.
  • Koosees - In Reply - 1 year ago
    You most certainly can, otherwise we could live a life of sin and go to Heaven. But it ain't the case, we got to cut the sin out. Grace from God in Prayer through Jesus Christ our Salvation and the Holy Spirit. When a Christian commits a sin, he/she trangesses the law. When we ask for forgiveness of our sins, We Pray to God Our Father, anything you ask Him ask in my Name Jesus said. So anytime we pray, we have to ask in the Name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. And the Holy Spirit.

    When someone sins, they say without saying to GOD that they don't have faith in Him. When God says He will lead a way of escape, not giving you too much you can't handle. And we can do all things through Christ, we just got to do our part and RESIST the temptations of the devil and he will flee.

    Romans 6:23

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

    But like the Prodigal son or the lost sheep. If you do sin, repent and go forth and sin no more. Grace and Salvation will always be there for those who want it. So ya, you can lose your salvation, which is to be saved from sin. When one is in sin, they like I said above ask God in prayer for forgiveness...

    We just got to keep away from the sin business as a Pastor once said. If you stumble, get up, keep on striving.

    I encourage you to look up a fella who since passed away. His name Finis Dake, we got to get rid of that idea that the Bible is hard to understand. Basic Bible teaching, made me realize English is a peculiar language. God Bless and Keep on striving, being Christlike in anything you do.

    2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Parker770,

    Some say you can, others say you can't. What are your thoughts?
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Parker770:

    What is salvation?

    What are you SAVED from?

    Your saved from DEATH.

    How are you SAVED from DEATH?

    You were a JOINT HEIR with Christ at his RESURRECTION.

    Only ONE BODY was raised at his resurrection.

    You became the body of Christ, no longer having a heart of stone, but Christ gave you his heart, no longer a carnal mind, Christ gave you his mind.

    Your carnal mind is DESTROYED by constantly repeating the scriptures that affirm the WORKS of his resurrection.

    John 17:22 And the GLORY that thou gavest me; I HAVE GIVEN THEM, that they may be ONE as we are ONE.

    Isaiah 59:21 As for me (the Father), this is my covenant with them (his creation, by the works of the cross of Christ), the words that I (the Father) have put in your (Christ's) mouth, SHALL NOT depart out of your (Christ's) mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy SEED (being resurrected as joint heirs with Christ), nor out of the mouth of thy SEED'S SEED, henceforth and forever.

    The wages of SIN (unbelief) is DEATH.

    The gift of BELIEF is eternal LIFE.

    1 Timothy 6:16 Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY, dwelling in the light......

    John 17:22 .... that they may be ONE, as we are ONE.

    God BLESS YOU as LIGHT replaces DARKNESS!
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    INVISIBLE; NO IMAGE; NO IMAGINATION OF MAN

    Acts 17:29 states:

    Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man.

    God has many warnings in scripture regarding not making idols of created beings or heavenly objects such as the moon and stars. This verse shows how God cannot be reduced to a man made concept or picture.

    Colossians 1:15 states: "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation." This verse is discussing Christ who although He came in a man is part of the Godhead; so certainly we shouldn't have images of Him either; especially to be venerated or worshipped. As to whether; say a stained glass window is equally offensive we have to look to the heart of those who are attending a church service; as sadly some even with such an object as that will find some feature that seems to have some supernatural light in the image which is idolotry. The same could be said for the Apostles on such imagery; a Protestant wouldn't have any desire normally to make it an idol; but other denominations such as Greek Orthodox have statues of "saints" which clearly constitute worship that is against scripture.

    John 1:18 states that no man has ever seen God but in Christ we in a sense see Him. His attributes including the Godhead are said to be clear from creation ( Romans 1:20). This was said to be known from the time of Creation according to the beginning of this verse. This shows that only later the nations departed from the knowledge that Adam and his immediate descendants would have instilled in them; there was deliberate rebellion against the Creator throughout the earth; both after the garden and after the flood with the tower of Babel and then God confusing the languages and scattering men throughout the earth (see Genesis 10:25 on likely splitting off of continents and dispersion of men).
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Acts 2:1 through verse 11, they all heard their own "language".. it lists the various countries from where many of those people who listened were from. Verse 8 says.. and how hear we every man in our own tongue (language), wherein we were born? Tongues are not applicable in a congregation where everyone speaks the same "language". If there is a "language" difference the interpreter should understand both languages, through the direction of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit will provide the "understanding" if it is needed.
  • One eighty - In Reply - 1 year ago
    As always Jimbob, Blessings,

    Conclusion on my reply on the David and Goliath issue in 2 Samuel 21:19: and I quote the text note, "l 19" (referring to the word Jaare-Oregim) "Or son of Jair the weaver." "m 19 Hebrew and Septuagant; 1 Chron. 20:5 son of Jair killed Lahmi the brother of Goliath."

    the footnote: "Elhanan...... killed Goliath. See NIV text note" (above paragraph). "Since it is clear from 1 Sa 17 that David killed Goliath, an earlier copyist probably misread the Hebrew for "Lamhi the brother of" (see 1 Ch 20:5) "as the Bethlehemite" (in Hebrew the word for "killed" stands first in the clause). Jaare Oregim. The Hebrew for "Oregim" also occurs at the end of the verse, where it is translated "weavers." An earlier copyist probably inserted it in the name by mistake, since 1 Ch.20:5 reads "Jair" (apparently correctly) instead of "Jaare-Oregim."

    What I'm perceiving is that the KJV writers added "the brother of" because it obviously didn't make sense in the original writings, or those that the KJV copyist/s were translating from, that David AND his brother killed Goliath at different times. Actually, it was the NIV writers who put forth the effort , made evident by the text and footnotes, to clear up the matter. I don't see anything purposely deceptive here that warrants the term "corrupt," in regards to the NIV.



    Yet, I could be totally off the mark here, since I'm not, and don't claim to be an authority in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, etc; nor one who desires to decipher nearly every word or passage, for that matter, from the Bible; not my gift. I do though, genuinely appreciate and am grateful for those who do. I've learned much from you. Sincere thanks, and I encourage you to continue this gift you've been blessed with.

    When time allows I'll try to address the issue you brought to attention from Mark.

    Peace
  • One eighty - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Blessings Jimbob,

    To clarify something, I have also a King James Bible which I use.

    To get the point of answering your questions: My KJV says in 1 Samuel 17:49, "And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth." The word "it" has a different font, meaning, I think, it was added for easier understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    The KJV on this site is identical.

    The NIV I have says, "As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him. Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell face down on the ground.

    I don't see anything so far that causes any confusion to the meaning as to what occurred here. David slew Goliath.

    My KJV in 2 Samuel 21:19 "And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaerogim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. The words "the brother of" are also in a different font, as to give indication they were added for clarification. Also the word "was", referring to the spear has a different font.

    The KJV on this site is identical.

    The NIV says, "In another battle with the Philistines at Gob, Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gitite, who had a spear with a shaft like a weaver's rod.

    So yes, there is some confusion here. But the "corrupt" NIV text note and footnote appears to clean it up.

    I'll send it on another page.

    Peace
  • SolaScrip - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Exactly right. All modern Christians are hypocrites, they just have no awareness of it. They ALL adhere to 9 of the 10 Commandments of God, the Commandments that Jesus Christ Himself taught and obeyed, but the 4th Commandment is repulsive to them. They ALL believe in keeping and obeying all the 9 Commandments, and even expect all other professed Christians to do the same, but they condemn Commandment-keeping and preach that nobody should ever keep the 10 Commandments or they will somehow be sent to hell by God - for obeying His Commandments mind you!

    The issue is a woeful lack of knowledge of the Scriptures. God says that His very own people, those who call themselves by His Name - Christians - will be destroyed for a lack of knowledge ( Hos. 4:6). He says that it is a failure on their part to develop a love for the Truth that will be their downfall. He says that He will afflict them with a strong delusion causing them to believe in grievous lies (2 Thes. 2:10-11) which will lead them far astray from Him and His reward of Eternal Life in Paradise where He and all the heavenly angels reside. He defines what it means to be a saint and what it truly takes to receive Salvation when He refers to the saints who patiently endured misery and hardship in their lives due to their steadfast obedience to the 10 Commandments.( Rev. 14:12)

    Yes, there are few Christians who live today as Jesus lived ( 1 Jn. 2:6), obeying the 10 Commandments and enduring whatever hardship may come as reward for their efforts. They walk the narrow path with Jesus Christ at their side and they carry a message of Truth, a message of obedience and endurance for all to witness so that no one will have any excuse of ignorance when the time comes to say "Lord, Lord ..." and they will be rejected by the Great Judge for their working of sin into the surrounding society.
  • One eighty - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Merete,

    pg 2

    The body cannot heal, because it cannot make itself sick. It NEEDS no healing. Its health or sickness depends entirely on how the mind perceives, and the purpose that the mind would use it for.

    When we limit ourselves we are not of one mind, and that is sickness. Yet sickness not of the body, but of the mind. All forms of sickness are signs that the mind is split and does not accept a unified purpose. Healing is the way in which the separation is overcome. Separation is overcome by union. It cannot be overcome by separating. The decision to unite must be unequivocal, or the mind itself is divided and not whole. Sickness and separation must be healed by love and union. Nothing else can heal as God established healing. Without Him there is no healing, for there is NO love.

    The body's healing will occur because its cause is gone. And now without a cause, it cannot come again in different form. The body's cause is UNFORGIVENESS of God's Sons. God has only one Son. If all His creations are His Sons, then everyone must be an integral part of the whole Sonship; and the Sonship in Its Oneness transcends the sum of its parts.

    Attempt not to ask the Holy Spirit to heal the body, for this would merely be to accept the ego's belief that the body is the proper aim of healing. Ask, rather, that the Holy Spirit teach you the right PERCEPTION of the body, for perception alone can be distorted. Only perception can be sick, because only perception can be wrong.

    Peace
  • One eighty - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Blessings Merete from Oslo,

    When I was a child, I recall birds flying into my living room window, resulting in the same effect as you've described. Mom said that it was due to the effects of them eating the tiny red berries from a bush outside; they seemed to make them a bit goofy.

    I'm unaware of what and whose teachings you are referring to, but I will speak in regards to your main concern about the cause of bodily afflictions. But before I do, I must say that what I say is not readily accepted by many, and may appear as offensive. But, be assured, I include myself, of course, when I appear to suffer in the body.

    Sickness is merely another example of our insistence on asking guidance of a teacher who does not know the answer. It is a way of demonstrating we can be hurt. It is a witness to our frailty, our vulnerability, and our extreme need to depend on this external guidance. Yet the body is healed when we come to God WITHOUT it and join the Mind in which all healing rests.

    Sickness is a sign, a shadow of an evil thought that seems to have reality and to be just, according to the usage of the world. It is external proof of inner "sins" and witnesses to unforgiving thoughts that injure and would hurt the Son of God. Sickness is meaningful only if the two basic premises on which the ego's interpretation are true; that the body is for attack, and that you are a body. Without these premises sickness is inconceivable.

    The guiltless mind cannot suffer. Being sane, the mind heals the body because it (the mind) has been healed. The sane mind cannot conceive of illness because it cannot conceive of attacking anyone or anything. Therefore, our health is the result of our desire to see out brother with no blood upon his hands, nor guilt upon his heart made heavy with the proof of sin. Love cannot suffer, because love cannot attack. The remembrance of love therefore brings invulnerability with it.

    see pg. 2
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 1 year ago
    The wages of sin = Death and everlasting torment in hell.

    Salvation is a very important question, and should be of the utmost importance in every Christians life.

    Don't trust your salvation to anyone. There is "no shortcut" or "free ticket" to salvation! Read the bible for yourself, and learn to pray directly to God thru his Son Jesus Christ, and IF you are sincere, you will learn the answer to your salvation question from God himself.

    I can point out a very important verse regarding losing salvation:

    Hebrews 10:26

    "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    Learn to Fear God.

    Proverbs 9:10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding."

    Learn to Love God.

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    In summary, Become obedient to God, Repent from sin, Fear God, Love God, read your bible and pray, and you will be doing well.
  • Parker770 - 1 year ago
    can you lose your slavation


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