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That is right about Abraham.

Exactly,.. translations are not always right, although the men in 1611 tried to break down the Hebrew , Greek , an almanacs,.. you must get a Dr Strongs concordance, or a companion Bible,.. like the word Easter ? In acts ,.. the word is actually, Pasco ,.. meaning passova,.. there is no such thing as Easter ,..

Gifts ,.. meaning that we all have certain things that make us who we are in the flesh, weather, a smile , or act of kindness, or righteousness, simply being able to figure things out ,.. it's definitely caris ,.. meaning charitable, charismatic,.. we are all loved by our father, an he is not a respecter of anyone,.. he loves us all the same , no one person is more than the other,.. which I find truly,.. AWESOME

I would like you to tell me about the rapture ? an when we can expect that to happen ? Please,.. because I'm kinda confused here , I hear about the rapture from many preachers, but I'm unable to find that in the Bible,.. sn upon reading Ezekiel, chapter 13 , I find it very clear about the punishment for false statements an that he is AGAINST, those who teach there children to fly to save there souls ,.. so please, am I missing something ?

Thank you

Glenn

Brother Jesse what your touching on is perhaps if not the most confusing field of all christianity and to get into it in this format personally I'm not going there, there is the Gift Holy Spirit then there are manifestations or outward displays of the power of that gift and one use of the word power is exousia another is kratos, but again there is so much involved in that field for this format. By the way I have studied everything you covered I choose not to mention words in italics not in original so I don't ruffle feathers. Nice Sharing.

Nice sharing bro now we worship 24 -7 which is the way it was meant to be. Law is out Grace is in Colossians 3: 14-22 we are a new creation in Christ.

I would like to share something about the word "gift" or "gifts" that we see throughout the Bible. First I want to say that I am in no way trying to discredit the KJV. It is my Bible of choice as far as English translations go.

But I think many people are being misled by thinking that God gives them all sorts of different "gifts" when in fact the only gift we are actually given is the gift of the Holy Spirit ( Acts 2:38).

But in our English bibles, we see the word gift or gifts and we associate the word gift with something that is given to us because that's what the English word means.

However, we need to look at those various places in scripture where we see the word gift or gifts where we think it is a gift that's given to us.

First of all, if the word gift is in italics, that means the word gift is not in the original language. The places where it's not in italics, we must look to the original language to see what the word truly is and what it means. Does it mean a gift that is given?

Most often, the word gift will be the word CHARISMA which comes from CHARIS which means expression of grace.

If it is the word DIDOMI, or DOREA, that means a gift that is given. We often see or hear people say God gave them a gift or gifts, but it cannot be backed up with scripture because when they show you in the Bible where it say God gives us these gifts, it is not the word gift as in something given to us.

The only gift given to us is the gift of the Holy Spirit. Everything else is just an expression of God's grace. So if someone says they have a certain gift, it must be backed up with scripture. What word is being used where gift or gifts is pointed out. And if it's in italics, that falls short altogether.

Jesse This ones for you the shepherds were told they would find a babe wrapped in swaddling clothes lying in a manger look up eastern culture and why that is a big deal, thought you would get blessed on that one.

Gaome You will not find the names of the Magoi but the reason they came so far with a literal caravan was because they saw an astronomical event that wasn't just a star it was actually a massing of planets, they were persian astronomers not astrology first one is science of the planets second one worship of the planets. They saw a planetary conjunction that's why they said to Herod where is He born King of the Jews, also they never a baby they saw a young child, the shephards were told to go see a babe wrapped in swaddling close. The reason the swaddling clothes was so important a sign in the east a child was wrapped in swaddling clothes indicated royalty and His words would always be pure.

Yes Debbie, that was the dispute and burden that the believing Pharisees tried to lay upon the Gentiles. And the Apostles Argued against this as you see in Acts 15:1-20.

I would like to share a couple of wonderful verses here in. Listen here to Peter.

Acts 15:10-11. Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Peter is saying trying to Keep the law put a yoke on them and their fathers. But through the Grace of Christ they now can be saved even as the Gentiles!! BY GRACE, NOT THE WORKS OF THE LAW.

God bless.

Reubens.

I agree with Adam, We worship "PERIOD."

Not on a particular day, We worship Christ, PERIOD.

There's a lot of fuss pitting one day over the other. If a person worship the day that don't make the day a pagan day, It makes the person Pagan.

Here's why we "Fellowship " on the first day of the week, " Sunday ".

Leviticus 23:15-17. And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; SEVEN SABBATHS SHALL BE COMPLETE:

The sabbath is on a Saturday, Seven sabbaths gives us 49 days , The fiftieth day gives us Sunday. "Pentecost".

The term Pentecost comes from the Greek (Pentkost) meaning "fiftieth". It refers to the Jewish festival celebrated on the fiftieth day after First Fruits, also known as the "Feast of Weeks" and the "Feast of 50 days" Also The feast of shavuot.

16: Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a NEW MEAT OFFERING unto the LORD." The new meat offering represents the Church.

17: Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; THEY SHALL BE BAKEN WITH LEAVEN; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD.

"Leaven here some say represents Gentiles and some say it represents foreknowledge of the false doctrine to enter the Church."

The Church was born on the 1st day of the week. And Christ was resurrected on the 1st day of the week.

WE'RE CELEBRATING THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST.

Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was FULLY COME, they were all with one accord in one place. "Fully come here means that which was prophesied in Leviticus 23."

THE CHURCH WAS BORN 50 DAYS AFTER THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST!! On a Sunday.

God bless.

Rina Maria Lei,

You've said well, and I also agree with Mishael. If I might say something about the very next verse, it says "For our God is a consuming fire."

The writer of Hebrews is speaking to Hebrew (Jewish) people and saying, "You want to go back under the Old Covenant? The only thing you have to look forward to is the consuming fire of God." That's it!



The writer is telling them that through Christ, you'll have eternal life and be part of the heavenly city where God dwells. But for those people who don't want to identify with Christ, they will suffer the judgment of God.

That the Law of Moses had to be followed in order to be saved explains my question -- thanks.

Gaone Mothibi,

The Bible never says there were three wise men. The literal Greek word is the word MAGOI for wise men. It's where we get our English word magic and magician from. They were sorcerers.



They had come from the east. And in tracing back in history, and in tracing out the magi which they're called in English, back in the book of Daniel, as well as the book of Numbers, the magi were from the Mesopotamian area.

They never traveled in a small group, so it's unlikely that there were just three of them. People come up with the number three because of the three gifts that were presented but the Bible never says three wise men. We don't know how many there were that came, and we don't know their names.



They were actually a cast of Persian priests who were involved both as priests, as well as in the science field. They carried both aspects about them because they were involved in astrology and astronomy. In their priesthood in Persia, they relied on the stars, they relied on magic, and they relied on sorcery to gain their messages and to perform their function.



They believed that when a great person was born upon the face of the earth that a cataclysmic event would happen in the stars which is kind of interesting. They believed that this great man's angel is up in the stars and this cataclysmic event will happen right before he is born.



They literally predicted the birth of Alexander the great because they saw the cataclysmic events that happened in the stars and they knew that a great man had been born.

Why would the event cause them to come to Jerusalem? Well, in the Mesopotamian area, back in the days of Balaam, if you remember when Balaam prophesied, in fact, in Numbers 24:17, Balaam prophesied and said a star would come out of Jerusalem.

This was the same area that these priests came from. They had Balaam's prophesies. The Jews should have know the exact day that their Messiah would come. They missed it. But the magi knew!

Please could you tell me where I can find the daily devotionals that you send me to my mobal. I'm usually at my work and I don't have time to read them, when I want to do it they have already disappeared.

May The Lord continue blessing you all richly

Maria

Was Nicodemus ever saved . Regards Ted

I don't understand verse21 of the scripture

Atually i want the names of the three wise man that saw the star that reveled the birth of the child Jesus

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believeth.

Hello Mr. Crisp,

I'd like to share a different point of view of your comment: "No where in the bible does it say to worship on Sunday. Sunday is a occult day of worship. Saturday is the Lord's day."

Actually, no where is the Bible does it say to worship specifically on Saturday. The Bible says the early Christians met on Sunday, the first day of the week: Acts 20:7

The Sabbath is Saturday, but I think you're confusing a day of worship and the "Lord's day" with Sabbath. Every day is the Lord's day and every day we should worship Him, not just once a week, and not just on Saturday. Sabbath is a day of rest.

Debbie,

When Paul first started carrying the gospel to the gentiles it was not totally settled in the minds of some about circumcision and the law, should the gentiles be circumcised and be under the law. A group of the sect of Pharisees told some of the gentiles they had to be circumcised and obey the law of Moses, this meaning the entire law, to be saved.

Acts 15 is what they are discussing, they came to agreement, they said God chose them, and they received the Holy Ghost the same as they did, Peter said; "Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?"

Paul addresses this many times in the letters he writes to the churches, we are not under the law, it is not by works of the entire law or just the 10 commandments, that salvation is received, it is by the grace of God through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

God bless,

RLW

That is what is coming after everything we see is wiped out a new Heaven and earth best part best part verse 4, eternity in perfection we cannot comprehend until we are there, what a tremendous reality to look forward to and to boot in perfect bodies.

Such a wonderful chapture in the book of Pslams

Cindy, thank you kindly for sharing these scriptures with me.

Hi debbie In addition to what sashe shared circumcision was originally given to Abraham by God to seperate what was to Become the Tribe of Israel that was eventually led out of Egypts rulers bondage and was continued to be carried out even to anybody that wanted to join Israel.

The bible says keep the sabbath hole. No where in the bible does it say to worship on Sunday. Sunday is a occult day of worship. Saturday is the Lord's day.

Dr. David Ward. Respectfully sir, It doesn't not matter how many degrees you have. The word of God is discerned by the Holy Spirit giving you wisdom as you are reading the word of God. Hell is a real literal place. For Example. Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

19There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

This is not a parable. Hell is a literal place of torment.

Revelation 20

12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Amen and Amen, Brother Alex!

Amen Brother Chris.

You are welcome and thank you.

God bless.

Hi Shawna , basically this chapter is about not judging each other and not offending each other , if you went to some ones house and you knew they were a recovering alcoholic , you wouldn't take a bottle of wine with you and sit and drink it in front of them would you ? Also , if you invited some friends of yours to your house for a meal and your friends were Jewish , you wouldn't serve them pork as they don't eat pork . If you know a Christian who occasionally had a beer or a glass of wine but they don't do it regularly and they don't get drunk , you probably shouldn't judge them for that even if you never drink at all . In my congregation , many do not have televisions in their homes , I do have one , the others who don't shouldn't look down on me for allowing myself a t.v. as long as I'm not glued to it all day and talking about t.v. programmes all the time . I love to listen to music , all kinds , some Christians do not do this as they see at as a very worldly thing , I see it as a bit of cheerfull relaxation , Im giving you modern examples in the hope that this will help you understand easier .