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Thought For Today - October 2, 2023

Pray For Revival!

By: Robert A. Searles

"Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors, lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, for thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever, Amen."

My Father, I pray that you will rekindle and ignite the fire of revival in my heart. I pray that you will cleanse me from all my iniquity. Create in me O God, a clean heart and a pure mind, and renew a right spirit within me. I pray that you will create a new hunger and thirst for your word, and that I will desire more of your fellowship. I pray that I will have a greater love and concern for all the brethren and children of God. Restore to me, O Lord the joys of my salvation, and grant me a greater zeal for soul winning. Let me be all that you have meant for me to be and let me approve all things which are excellent which will bring honor and glory to your name. Teach me, O Lord to pray continually and without ceasing. Teach me to walk constantly with the blessed Holy Spirit, and open a door of utterance for me that I might make manifest your word as I ought to speak. Help me to walk in wisdom toward those that are without, redeeming the time. Let my speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that I may know how I might answer every man.

This must be the sincere prayer of all of us if we are to preserve our homes and our country. My friend, will this be your prayer?

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Psalm 26: 7

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Hi Frankie,

Sorry for the late reply.Thanks again for your encouraging words, and your thoughtful comments regarding the scripture in 1John.

Thank you for your time, insight, and testimony that you've shared in all your posts here. You have reminded us all about our Journey and the continued growth that God expects from us, if we are to truly become one with Jesus/God through the following of His Holy Sprit, and eventually actually having that vial taken away, so we can really see! 2 Corinthians 3:16

You also hit home a great point in your statement: "We ourselves experience an increase in joy of this fellowship as He takes away our sin, & we don't return to them." I agree wholeheartedly, and one major point in order for our growth is the continued focus on Not continuing to return to sin!

Continue on my friend.

GBU

That's My King Dr. S.M. Lockridge

My King was born King. He's a Seven Way King. He's the King of the Jews. That's a racial King. He's the King of Israel. That's a National King. He's the King of righteousness. He's the King of the ages.He's the King of Heaven. He's the King of glory. He's the King of kings and. He is the Lord of lords. David said the Heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament show His handiwork. My King is the only one whom there are no means of measure can define His limitless love. No far seeing telescope can bring into visibility the coastline of His shore of supplies. No barriers can hinder Him from pouring out His blessing. He's enduringly strong. He's entirely sincere. He's eternally steadfast. He's immortally graceful. He's imperially powerful. He's impartially merciful. He's God's Son. He's the sinner's saviour. He stands alone in Himself. He's honest. He's unique. He's unparalleled. He's unprecedented. He's supreme. He's pre-eminent.He's the grandest idea in literature He's the highest personality in philosophy.He's the supreme problem in high criticism He's the fundamental doctrine of proved theology. That's my King.He's the miracle of the age .He's the superlative of everything good that you choose to call Him. Well, He's the only one able to supply all of our needs simultaneously. He supplies strength for the weak. He's available for the tempted and the tried.He sympathizes and He saves. He's strong God and He guides. He heals the sick. He cleanses the lepers. He forgives sinners.

He discharged debtors. He delivers the captives. He defends the feeble. He blesses the young. He serves the unfortunate. He regards the aged. He rewards the diligent and He beautifies the meek. He's is a King of knowledge. He's the wellspring of wisdom. He's the doorway of deliverance. He's the pathway of peace. He's the roadway of righteousness. He's the highway of holiness. He's the gateway of glory. THATS MY KING, AUDIO ON YOUTUBE.

Pastor: God is good

Us: All the time

Pastor: All the time!

US: GOD IS GOOD!

God bless.

"God's prophetic words always come true." - GG

Resharing.

Matthew 27:46

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me?

Psalms 22:1

(To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

John 19:30

When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, He said, It is finished: and he bowed His head, and gave up the ghost.

Psalms 22:31

They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.

1 Corinthians 6:20

For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

The Perfect Word of God!

( Deut 8:30) .."that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live".

The word (every) in Hebrew is #3605; it means the whole, hence all, any or every, to complete, (make) perfect. (MAKE PERFECT)!

( Mt 4:4) "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the mouth of God". (This IS prophecy for then, and prophecy for us today)

The word (every) in Greek is #3956; it means all, any, every, the whole. all (manner of, means).

( Jn 14:23-24) 23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words , and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him". 24 "He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me".

The word (words) is #565; it means commandment, speech, something said.

The word (sayings) is #3056; it means something said (including the thought) the Divine Expression (i,e, Christ)

( Ps 12:6-7) 6 "The words of the LORD are (pure) words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth purified seven times". 7 "Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt ((preserve them from this generation for ever))". 7 times = 7 years = KJB

The word (pure) is #2889; it means pure (in a physical, chemical, ceremonial or moral sense) clean, sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated, innocent or holy.

( 2 Pet 1:19-21) 19 "a more sure word of prophecy". 20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation". We have that scripture today, and the New Testament in the KJB is that more sure word of prophecy!

21 "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man; but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost".

The translators of the KJB were moved by the Holy Ghost to fulfill God's promise to preserve His Words for ever ( Ps 12:7)

Truth matters.

Addendum on attributes of Father and God.

First of all; the last sentence was somehow isolated from the proper text.

Secondly; I will need some time (probably until weeks end) to get more verses together related to God's attributes specifically related to being th Heavenly Father; as well as other unique characteristics of God. I still have an alphabetical "laundry list" as it were; but I am looking to focus on verses in this upcoming posting and perhaps attributes not easily assigned to one designation.

Here's the remaining ones that I have in alphabetical order; I have one person here who has some other ideas.

Hospitable

Invisible

Just

Knowing

Love

Manifest

Neighor

Omniscient (3 omnis)

Patient

Quintessential

Real

Satisfying

Travailing

Understanding

Valuable

Wise

X

Yearning

Z

I'll leave perhaps an open forum here for other descriptions from A to Z. Eventually it is hard to avoid overlap of scriptures as many cover more than one concept and eventually; of course we could end up with most of the Bible for scriptures referenced on the subject!

Agape; Rich P

Attributes of God: Father and God

It may seem redundant to speak of God being an attribute of God but His uniqueness nonetheless has certain characteristics. God sees; feels; hears and smells according to various scriptures. He is a jealous God and angry without sin; as well as having all other traits of perfection. Since man was created in God's image; we need not confine that just to physical appearance; in fact it is the invisible attributes of man such as the soul which we can also compare in some sense to the Spirit of God to get a better handle on His innermost thoughts in communing with Him.

Specifically as Father; God of course chastises all that He loves; He has adopted us into His family and of course He is a father to the fathrless. There certainly are verses where nursing mothers are brought up as well; God has tender attributes and through Christ the children were clearly on His heart (See Psalm 8); and we all have to be as children if we are able to enter the Kingdom of God ( Matthew 18:3). He has delegated authority to the Son; and we as firstfruits are also to be given authority to rule and reign over the earth after suffering here on earth ( 2 Tim. 2:12).

As God; of course we can look at the 3 "O"s (omnipotence; omnipresence; omnicience) or any other characteristics that make Him unique as compared to the rest of His creation. It is perhaps what we cannot understand that is the most profound; such as the subtle ways that He draws us to Him; ways that the Spirit moves which can't be readily defined by all known doctrines or specific scriptures; of unpredictability in case our comprehension somehow wants to confine Him to our own conceptualization of a box. Such things perhaps can be seen with why He has subtle markings on some creatures; novel stars in the universe etc. For every issue "solved" in science another mystery surfaces; man will never know it all

As God of course He can't sin; therrefore all that He says is truth. H

Yes that's right GiGi, that verse has to do with the formal worship service of the church and not with private meetings.

Jema<

Yes, Jema, Galatians 3:28 says we are all one in Christ without rank, but equal and equally blessed with the workings of the Holy Spirit.

I am certainly aware that what women, you and myself included, say in fellowship with others may not be accepted by some men due to the verse discussed in Giannis' post, (but he is not one of them) but each man or woman is to be obedient to the promptings and instructions of the Holy Spirit as to what to say to and what to receive from other believers regardless of their gender. You and I are responsible for what we say and do not need to own what others are willing to receive. If their convictions towards receiving biblical insights from women don't allow them to do so, then I believe God will bring the same insights to them from a man in the future according to His will. So I don't fret over this.

I am thankful for this forum and blessed by those who participate. Being pretty much a homebody since Covid and retirement, I don't get a chance each day to share insights with others outside my family often, so this forum allows for us to use our minds that God has blessed us with that are being transformed by the Spirit to be as the mind of Christ.

Thank you for the kind reply

Gigi, true, true, oh so true. Very well said. Have a wonderful day. God bless you.

Folk,

do you perceive what the Holy Spirit of Truth is revealing here?

Hebrews 6:1

therefore leaving the doctrines of Christ---not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works. meaning sinning & repenting as a way of a Christian life

one of these doctrines was that of baptisms, its in the plural form, He's distinguishing from John's, which was only a type & shadow of Christ baptism. John only reach to the cleansing of the flesh, symbolic of the ritual cleansing of the Jewish law, which he was under.

Christ, the Substance brought the better things to come, the baptism that John point to & desired, it reaches to the heart, the center & seat of our very being. Hebrews 9:14

Cleansing out the seeds of the evil one. Hebrews 10:22 evil conscience--his presence must be there Mark 7:21

Thus, Holy Spirit is revealing there's Ephesians 4:5 that's required to reach to this state of perfection were we sin no more.

Friends, as I lay here, after responding to bro Dan last thread, I continue to feel the springs from the Fountain of Life bubbling up within me, my cup is running over, so I added then added again to that which I received,

Come on; Zechariah 13:1 Isa 55:1-4 the Grace of God/ Light Rev 22:17

lets us Micah 4:2 the Jerusalem Gal 4:26 in Spirit & in Truth

in love & truth

concerning the power of the resurrection of Christ within us, Paul reveals this when stating "not I but Christ lives in me"

the Father had prepared another body for His Son to live & move & have His being in, & where Christ goes He brings His Father with Him, John 14:23

Folks,

this is the abundant life that Christ came to bring us, Life behind the veil, the Holy of Holies, there is no sin or sinning in His dwelling, which dwelling place is within our hearts. 1Cor 3:16,17

the Corithians hadn't not reach the baptizmal of Christ, yet they were believers & were living in a measure of the Grace of God. Holy Spirit had strong extortations toward them to stop living in the flesh, the veil. though they did not lack behind in many of the graces of God.

indicating, we must press on to perfection Hebrews 6:1

Thank you so much for the last paragraph of this post . It is a fact and it is a fact that is often ignored , almost exclusively by men :) . God gave women brains and I believe that the same Spirit is given to men and women , so if a woman is able to shed some light on a scripture etc , and her information is rejected because it's coming out of a woman's mouth , but it's been given her by God's Holy Spirit , then what does that mean for the man who rejects it ? The message comes from the Spirit , it doesn't matter who's mouth it comes out of . The messenger is irrelevant .

You also need to forgive your wife , from the heart and tell her that you do . This is a lot of work for you but I promise , it will be worth it , you have been carrying this sorrow for too long , you need to get on with your life and find some joy in your Saviour . Be strong , you can be happy again but you have to put in some effort and really learn to trust in God and in His love and mercy towards you . You can do it , you want to be happy , I want you to be happy and God wants you to be happy and close to Him .

Dear Bibleman72 , I can hear your sorrow . In a previous post I think you mentioned that you split from your wife ten years ago ? It's time to move forward . The thing you need to remember is.... forgiveness . If we confess our sins God , through Christ , He is faithful to forgive us . Ask God to forgive you for whatever wrong you did your ex wife , apologise to your ex wife , doesn't have to be in person , you could write her a letter . Don't talk about what she did wrong , just apologise for what you did . Get your sorrow and guilt and regrets out of your heart so that you can make room for love and optimism ! You need also to forgive yourself , you are only human , just like the rest of us and we have all made mistakes , big ones ! I know I have , I have said and done very wrong things and hurt people's feelings , sometimes without realising it but other times knowing exactly what I was doing . You have to apologise , it doesn't matter much if your apology is accepted or not , you are not in control of that , just do it . Once you have asked for God's forgiveness ( and be assured if you make a full and honest confession to Him , He will forgive you ) and apologised to your ex wife , you will feel so much better and it will be so much easier to forgive yourself and put all this negativity behind you . God is love , God wants us to be happy , His mercies are fresh every day , because of what Christ accomplished we can start each day with a clean slate , we can be clean , we can enjoy His love and mercy and move forward in His Grace , we can be happy , we can be guilt free , all we have to do is confess , apologise and trust Him . Please try to see that God has a future for you , in this life and in the next but you have to be willing to trust Him and show Him that you trust Him ! Use the prescribed method , confession , apologize , forgive and let Christ take over your life and heart and move forward in God's love and His plan for you see part 2

hi bro Dan

1John 1:3 John was speaking on the other side of the baptizmal of the Christ, he knew in power of being dead unto sin,

& the power of the resurrection of Christ within Him, joining Him to Christ & the Father John 17:21-24 in a consummate intimate fellowship which he explains to His children "that your joy maybe full, which they had & are experiencing in a measure; as they continue in the working out of their salvation, steadfast & confident unto the end.

We ourselve experience an increase in joy of this fellowship as He takes away our sin, & we don't return to them. His Presence increases in our lives, receving more of His Spirit by the hearing & obedience of Faith, which gives & increases us in what John say later "an understanding" 1John 5:20 & a part of this understanding is Philippians 4:13 which we have received.

Could non-believers read this epistles & become believers, of course; Mark 9:23 This is the heart of God Isa 49:6 Acts 13:47

in love & truth

Grace be to you

Hi Jesse,

Thanks my friend, I'm glad you clarified this.

I will now make it a point to pay more attention to the posters name.

GBU

Bro dan,

I just wanted to let you know that it was not anything I posted that FrankieJ agreed to. There is a user that goes by Jesse A. This is not me. I only post as Jesse. I'm just sending this out so you and others do not think that Jesse A is me.

Thanks brother,

Jesse

Hello Giannis,

Marcion taught that the Old Testament God Yahweh, was the creator of the earth, creator of evil, and lesser than the Father of Jesus, teaching that the Father of Jesus was a different God who is supreme and ineffable who is all love and mercy. So, Marcion believed there were two Gods and didn't include Jesus as one of them. He saw the Yahweh as vengeful, jealous tribal god who was merciless, and malevolent, calling him the "demi-urge". So, who does this description describe? To me, it describes Satan more that it describes the true God of all of the Bible or even the OT. The demi-urge idea is very ancient and most who taught and believed concerning it was that the Supreme God is good, and too pure to be involved with the created world. The demi-urge was the creator of the physical world and created evil. So Marcion had similar views as this dualism. He also believed that Jesus was not truly human, but only "put on an image of humanity" like a costume. This is called Docetism.

He was denounced as a heretic and rebutted by Tertullian and others. His views of God were not biblically sound, and Oseas' view of God is equally unbiblical and heretical. Sadly. But it is good to know this about him. It explains some of his posts and why they have left me wondering where he gets his ideas, as you queried. I hope he explains this.

Hi Frankie,

Thanks for your response and sharing your understanding of this scripture. I will continue to pray, study and research this as I want to keep an open mind. There has been some controversy over the years regarding exactly when, who and where the letters of 1John were presented, and to whom. Most agree, the letters would have been presented to wide gatherings of people in multiple places, which in all probability could include large audiences of not only believers, but also unbelievers.

It makes sense that John may have wanted to reach out and provide his messages to as many people as possible.

With that said, I was only commenting on 1 John verses 1-10, and as I read and understand these 10 verses, I still believe John was reaching out to the unsaved/nonbelievers in these particular verses. Not to dissect each verse I will present a key verse that sways me in my current understanding.

1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."

John says that which we (Christians) have seen and heard we declare unto you (Christians already know this, he must be reaching out to others) John goes on to say: that ye also may have fellowship with us (Christians are already in fellowship, he is speaking to others that are not currently in fellowship) John then says: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ (Existing Christians would already be in fellowship with the these entities)

I do agree the remaining chapters in 1 John 2,3,4 and 5 were directed at existing Christians.

GBU

Ok, Dan

Lets look at what John says

In the context of what I previously wrote to you,

1John 1:4 1John 2:3 they're learning to know Him & are experiencing a measure of His joy & he encourages them to continue, that their joy made be full as they grow toward being born again of the of the Spirit by the Incorruptible Seed---unbeliever doesn't know this

1John 1:7 an unbeliever does not walk in the Light

1John 2:1 He calls them his little children, new converts

Would he call unbelievers, his little children?

1John 2:7 he calls them his brethren

1John 2:8 because the darkness is pass & the true Light now shines "past tense" they're believers working out their salvation

1John 2:12 calling them little children again, their past sins having been forgiven

1John 2:13 describing the progressional work of sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience, from children, to young men, to fathers

1John 2:21 but because you know it, they're believers

1John 2:27 they have received the Anointing, must be believers,

1John 3:1-3 revealing again God's love to His own, they have this hope in the working out of the washing of regeneration & renewing in the Holy Spirt unto the new creature ,to be pure, even as He is pure

Dan; the whole epistle is full of this, you mention unbelievers needs to be cleanse, yes, but so does new believers as they grow in Grace, learning to pick up the cross & deny self & learn, know & put on Christ.

once we come to be believers in the Light, then the work of sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience begins, for example;

Just look at our own lives, we both believe & as we continue to walk in the Light, learning Him in which in this learning of Him we fall many times, yet we continue, step by step He cleanses us, eventually overcoming all sin, thoroughly purge, & are baptize by Christ, become dead unto sin, the born again experience. This is what John is revealing to His little children.

An unbeliever does not know this,

Hope this clears the mist

Hi Frankie,

Thanks for you your input here regarding the ongoing topic of sin. You may in fact agree with Jessie regarding the scripture 1John:1-10 being directed at believers, but I will continue to believe that John is speaking to unbelievers/possible new converts, unless you can show me in scripture that I'm in error.

John is referring to (We) and (Them) a lot. Who is the We? Who is the Them? I believe if we breakdown the scripture we will know who these (2) groups are that he is referring to. These (2) two groups are not alike. One group is nothing like the other group. Indeed, the people in one group are the exact opposite of what the Bible describes as a Christian.

1John 1:3 (unbelievers) They do not have fellowship with us as we have with God.

We Christians: We have fellowship with Christ and all of the members of His Body. 1Cor 1:9 and 1John 1:7

1John 1:5 (unbelievers) They need to hear the message that John has heard.

We Christians: We have heard the message and have believed. Romans 10:17

1John 1:6 (unbelievers) They lie and do not live by the truth.

We Christians: We have already met the Truth and we walk by the Truth. John 14:6 2John 1:4

1John 1:7 (unbelievers) They need to be purified from all sin.

We Christians: We have been purified from all sin. Heb 10:10

1John 1:8 (unbelievers) They are deceived.

We Christians: We are filled with the Spirit of Truth. John 14:17

1John 1:9 (unbelievers) They need to be purified from all unrighteousness.

We Christians: We have received the gift of forgiveness, and have been made righteous. 1Cor 6:11. Eph 1:7

1John 1:10 (unbelievers) They are calling God a liar.

We Christians: We agree with God. Romans 10:9-13

1John 1:10 (unbelievers) God's word has no place in their lives.

We Christians: God's word lives in us. 1Thes 2:13

Hope this helps.

GBU

Somewhere on the site you will see an icon that says : contact us . That's the one you want :) . Think it's on the first menu screen you get , near the bottom .

I sent the photo of the fork to admin , don't know what , if anything , they will do with it .

Sister Jema.

How do I contact Admn.,?

Hi Bennymkje , don't think there is a limit to posts , I do think that they all get read by a moderator . I think some words are red flagged and maybe some attitudes too . You can contact admin and ask them if there is a problem , I'm sure they will explain if they have found something that they think might be inappropriate :) .

1 Cor 15:24-26,

22. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death

1 Cor 15:19,

"If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable."

Gospel of prosperity? No thanks, I will not have any.