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Tisha B'Av is a day of morning for Jews. It is the day Jews remember the destruction of the two Temples. Tisha B'Av happens to be on September 11th. There is a greater connection:
Our leaders study scripture, they knew 9-11-01 and the ( Revelation 9:1-11) narrative fit their offensive perfectly. So, the fifth trumpet army went out like locust to conquer the ME. The US killed Muslim's who didn't have the seal of God in their foreheads. There are no "green things" in the desert to destroy ( Revelation 9:4).
The group in Revelation is not reigning on the earth. They're in heaven in the midst around the Throne! Revelation 5:6. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
And they're not the 144 thousand seen in Revelation Ch. 7 and 14. In Revelation 7 and 14 they're 12000 out of every tribe of Israel.
Revelation 7:4. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
In Revelation 5:9:11. It directly says they're out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
I believe this is the Church that has been raptured up.
God bless.
Perhaps you're right. I believe he was tossing it about in his mind in Ch 10.
Job 10:2. "I will say unto God," Do not condemn me; shew me wherefore thou contendest with me.
Jesus said 'if your dog was hungry, would you feed him a stone?"
( Revelation 5:9-11) alludes to the 144k reigning on the earth.
9 And they sung a NEW SONG, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
*ten thousand times ten thousand = 100k, and thousands of thousands = 44 = 144k
( Revelation 14:2-4) confirms it's the 144k from Revelation 5.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 And they sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
Now the question becomes, what are the 144k doing at the seal opening when they themselves are sealed much later, before the day of the Lord, ( Revelation 7)? I notice a lot of 'first shall be last and last shall be first' patterns in Revelation. I got a feeling that that's what's happening here, it is esoteric. A grand mystery always unfolding.
Another subject that needs to be explored is what happens in Revelation 21,22, between the seventh trumpet and post second resurrection? It make little sense to me (as written) the keys are left out, hopefully others can express their inner feelings on these 2 chapters.
We serve a mighty God!! And He is the revealer of EVERYTHING!! Without Faith it is impossible to please God...Faith allows us to KNOW Psalms 57:2 is TRUTH!! God reveals many amazing things, including His MIGHTY self, to His children!! Things we could not know of ourselves!! I praise Him for this!! I am so thankful God picked me!! Please Lord allow me to always Praise You and thank You!
Psalms 57:2
I will cry unto God most high; unto God that performeth all things for me.
Isa 48:6 "Thou hast heard, see all this; and will not ye declare it? I have shewed thee new things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them."
Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great VOICE, as of a TRUMPET.
Revelation 4:1 .... an the first VOICE I heard was as if it were a TRUMPET talking with me ....
2 Peter 3:8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
We see some try to use this verse to establish a time piece for God. BUT IT ACTUALLY MEANS NO TIME. The Emphasis is on Gods patience and longsuffering. Easily seen when you consider the surrounding verses.
2 Peter 3:3-9.
Let's entertain this reasoning for a second.
If you're going to use this measurement as time for God you have to also use it for verse 10.
2 Peter 3:10. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; ...
That DAY would have to measure a thousand years also!!
And how does that "thousand years day come as a thief in the night? Sounds silly doesn't it? IT SHOULD.
#1 God is from EVERLASTING TO EVERLASTING!! He stands on the outside of time ( Outside this world ). Looking in. perhaps another dimension altogether.
God gave us a way to chart time in
Genesis 1:14. And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for DAYS, and YEARS:
The evening and the morning means a 24hr day. He communicate with us using this scale throughout the scripture.
70 years captivity in Babylon is just one of many examples.
One day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day if you look at it carefully it's like saying 2 steps forward and 2 steps backwards.
YOU'RE RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU STARTED. NO TIME AT ALL!!
THE EMPHASIS IS ON GODS LONGSUFFERING.
GOD BLESS