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Laura,

I am not sure if you are truly seeking an answer to John 3:13 (your original question), or if you are passing on what you believe to be the answer?

I have read through your post several times trying to figure out what you are trying to say. Maybe I am just misunderstanding what you are saying but I am having a hard time coming up with the same understanding. What you are saying seems foreign to me. Sorry I couldn't be more help to answer your original question!

To Janet. This is Wesleys commentary on this scripture. You can find the Commentary Section by entering your book, chapter, verse in the SEARCH BOX and hit the arrow.

Wesley's Notes for Exodus 34:10

34:10 Behold I make a covenant - When the covenant was broke, it was Israel that broke it; now it comes to be renewed, it is God that makes it. If there be quarrels, we must bear all the blame; if there be peace, God must have all the glory. Before all thy people I will do marvels - Such as the drying up of Jordan, the standing still of the sun. Marvels indeed, for they were without precedent, such as have not been done in all the earth; the people shall see, and own the work of the Lord; and they were the terror of their enemies: it is a terrible thing that I will do.

My comment: Israel got right with God and he enabled them to destroy their enemies and chase them out. They became a terror ...

Try word Searching the word TERROR and see if other verses are in the Bible?

It's always interesting to me to read the other verses on the same subject.

Hello Tommy,

I believe in the first option you mentioned, because of the most Biblical support:

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

1 Corinthians 15:51-52 - These first two are clearly stated and would be hard to misinterpret, in my opinion.. Those who die are sleeping awaiting Jesus's return and judgment. But it says not all will sleep, some will be alive and meet Jesus immediately in the air.

Daniel 12:2

1 Thessalonians 5:9-10

Those who believe we go immediately to heaven rely on 2 key verses which in my opinion are misinterpreted.

1. "away from the body with the lord" - based on 2 Corinthians 5:8 and a commonly repeated phrase, but is fake news, because the Bible doesn't say that. Paul said he would "RATHER" be away from his body and with the Lord. It doesn't say in 100% of all cases and 100% of all scenarios 100% of the time if you die you are 100% of the time IMMEDIATELY with the Lord, regardless of anything and everything. It doesn't even come remotely close to saying that, but yet, that's the belief repeated perhaps because it gives people comfort, especially at funerals.

2. The other verse commonly cited as 'proof' of this belief is Jesus on the cross saying on this day you will be with me in paradise. Here's what Jesus didn't say- he didn't say you and 100% of all other people, 100% of the time, in any and all cases, regardless, will INSTANTLY be with me in heaven, and not even face judgment, despite me already saying all will be judged. Jesus didn't say that. God can do whatever He wants and make special exceptions for whomever He wants. It doesn't automatically mean every single action is a template rule for all of humanity. That would be a gross overinterpretation. Also... Jesus didn't say he would go to heaven with him. He said paradise, which may be different. It could be a waiting place where the dead sleep before Jesus returns and before judgment day. Something to think about.

We see Job kids partying often, and Job wasn't sure they were making proper sacrifices. He was being careful. It's not unrighteousness. We are to pray for our children as in Deuteronomy 28; teach them.

What we fail to see sometimes, Satan was lurking around, going to and fro. He spied Jobs fatherly concern. He used that against Job. He sorted up a storm (tornado?) and everything Job loved, was destroyed. His wife told him to curse God and die.

1 Peter Chapter 5

6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:

7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your ADVERSARY the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

All Job could do was to be still and wait upon God. Myself, it showed me that we are all stronger than we think sometimes. There's a peace when you have faith that God is at work in your situation. Keep your eyes on Jesus.

It's great for me.

Thank you Spencer.

I had a salvation experience sorta like apostle Paul. Except I was interpreting a natal Astrology chart I had made: on Yom Kippur.

My comment is this:

I did not comprehend what happened to me when I laid my head on the Bible and spoke, "I deserve to die for what I've done. After reading the penalty: sentence of Death.

I saw a vision of hell, and then I took hold of a invisible Hand. I was delivered of everything. 2 days later I told someone I had been saved.

We gotta get in there and force feed a lot of scripture ASAP. The demons were hanging around my home, trying to kill me or frighten me. They didn't have a home anymore.

I started going to Church and the Pastor was just starting a series on The Curse of the Occult. Being good Baptists, they would cast the demons out of the Church in corporate prayer, first. A demon would say: "you better get up and come with us!"So hateful and cruel.

A word of knowledge was given to the praise leader; he spoke it... "a person who was into the occult come forward". I went. I was prayed for on the spot. I knew that I was free that day. I was still accused daily through spiritual attacks against my mind.

I knew the Holy Spirit was helping me; was inside of me. I read Acts 19:19 and burned everything occult, beer shirts.

Next Sunday I decided once and for all time to show Satan I belonged to Jesus and none other. I was baptized and I was never oppressed again.

You must consume mass quantities of the Bible to garnish your spiritual house (YOU). We have an Eye Gate, Ear Gate, Mouth Gate. Only the Bible can make your gates strong and impenetrable. Wean yourself off media and Music that excites the flesh.

We are not under the Law to be, or not to be water baptised. Do it according to your conscience. It means more to you, when you do it for the right reasons.

You are already born again and baptized with the indwelling Holy Spirit. Be at peace.

When a Christian do not help another Christian in need, are they truly saved?

What is 1 samuel verse 43

Hi Marine Wife

You said: "They are three in one, not three different persons."

See, what prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD.

1 John 5:v. 7 - There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father (GOD, the Father), the Word (the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written in English language), but a Person - the Comforter): and these three are One.

JESUS said: I and my Father are One- John 10:v.30. Two distincts Persons, but both are One.

Concerning the Person of the Holy Spirit (he is not a ghost as is written in English language), JESUS said: John 16:v.12-15: - 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

13 Howbeit when HE, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of Himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak: and He will shew you things to come.

14 He shall glorify me: for He shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that He shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Matthew 11:v.27 - No man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son,

and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Where do everyone's soul go and stay until Christ comes back?

So glad to be able to read this transaction on line. Any time any place

Hi Denise Rucker-Henry

Remember: The letter KILLETH, but the Spirit giveth life. 2Cor.3:v.6

And more: It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are Spirit,

and they are life. John 6:v.63

By the way, There are three that bear record in heaven (heaven? Ephesians 1:v.3), the Father, the Word, and the Holy

Spirit: and these three are One. 1 John 5:v.7

My comment is about this Is it wrong of me to have problems with going to a church that is not an old time religion church and I am not getting what I need with spiritual motivation and learning more about the teachings of Jesus. I am use to a fire and brimstone teaching and the preacher is not that and I not getting uplifting from his messages.The old church was resolved .

Explain in detail John 3:16

Mark Valesano , we are all Job . John ch16 v33 .

"New Israeli prime minister calls on world to 'wake up' on Iran nuclear deal"

Soon after Israel bombs Iran, the world will have its day of the Lord.

Is this not what you expected to see; thick black smoke?

Can someone know time and date after second coming of Jesus since it hasn't happened noone can know but after it has someone should be able to know I would think?

If it takes 4.5 units of TNT to destroy Mystery Babylon, the beast will use 9.

In the home of the brave, Jefferson turnin' over in his grave.

Fools glorifyin' themselves tryin to manipulate satan.

Is it possible to prodict Jesus second coming after it has happened I believe Jesus Sprite will be reborn through some from David's family in near future

Hi Shannon.

I agree with you, water baptism is not a requirement for salvation,

And rather go through the scripture as usual to show the definition and it being a symbolic testimony of what Christ crucifixion and resurrection DONE FOR US.

Let's examine the text in Acts 2:38.

Lets see if Peter gave them two things to do or did he give them one thing to do for the remission of sins.

1) Did Peter say unto them, Repent, and " BE " baptized?

Or

2) Did Peter say unto them, Repent and "GET" baptized?

Homely example:

You're sitting at home watching TV. Your son is standing in front of the TV,

( YOU TELL HIM TO SIT DOWN AND GET OUT THE WAY! )

He does " one " thing.

He sat down, when he did he got out the way.

Note: ALL JEWS HERE IN ACTS.

( Acts 2:38. Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. )

The jews believed in Judaism and believed their salvation rested on it.

Jesus was announced by his forerunner "John the baptist "

Jesus met all the criteria given by the prophecies of the old testament and the Law, He committed the miracles.

The message to the Jews was to

REPENT FROM UNBELIEF TO BELIEF.

( ACCEPTING THE SACRIFICIAL LAMB )

So when those who repented they "WERE" Baptized.

( They were put into the body of believers, Identified with Christ and the Resurrection "IMMEDIATELY" AND SUPER NATURALLY, BY THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLYSPIRIT. ) and THEN we're they baptized with water to profess their faith.

God bless.

Thanks, that is how I feel and God said do not listen to your own understanding and I do not. I do not have any problem at all understanding what I should or should not do. It is so simple and everyone is making it so hard to understand and believe and I think they may mean well but people tend to think they are smarter than anyone else and that makes it hard on the simple minded like me. Love and obey God and you will be fine, thanks again! I do think you should read the Bible and study it but you cannot listen to everyone's opinion. All I have to do to believe is just look at this earth and everything in it and then look at the Sun which has burned a the perfect temp. since it was created and never has needed any fuel! I believe with all my heart that God created this world we live in and Jesus walked the face of the earth and died for our sins! Period.

Thank you for your kind response. Reading the bible and just being grateful today is helping

The other point that can be made here is something many parents wonder about. Samson's asked the Lord for directions on how to raise their son. They were given the instructions and giving them the benefit of the doubt they did diligently.

However, Samson strayed and we know the story and the final outcome. My point is although the parents and family are God fearing, the child can, and many do, stray away from faith.

On the other side of the coin- parents and families may be ungodly and don't know God; however, the child and many do, find faith and strength in the Lord.

What do we do fathers, mothers? We trust in the Lord and all of His promises. We read, pray, and trust in the Lord God Almighty. It's not over till death.

Thank you for your promises and for your Word.

Psalm 103 it is very important to speak these words to the soul convincingly until you make an impression upon your soul. You will know when your soul starts responding. Speak lovingly to your soul the words of God. As God woos us we should woo our souls. Once the soul joins the spirit man the body will fall into place.

Felix; so sorry, Revelation 21:22.

Thank you Mark for that valuable truth.

The story should be humbling to everyone

that reads it.

God bless you

Laurin on Psalms 130 is a wonderful comparison of the Trinity for this reason: One without the Trinity or without Water

will surly die physically and spiritually.

Imagine the look of shock that all those who committed these evil acts to our Lord God Jesus Christ, and finally killing Jesus on the cross, then realizing at their own death they made a mistake. A grave mistake that cost them eternity from Christ. May we campaign hard and reach as many as we can before they go into eternity because of their lost condition.

To have been present at the time of healings and performing of the feeding of the multitudes (2X), bringing people dead back to life; and still not believe. To have heard the words of grace from Christ Himself, praise the Lord.

I deem not to judge, but thankful that I heeded the prompting of the Holy Spirit in my heart and trusted in the Lord for my salvation. I praise the Lord as well for everyone else who trusts in the Lord for their salvation.

God the Lord Jesus Christ deserves all the praise and glory, on one else. Thank Lord. Come quickly Lord.

Praise the Lord for the comments of encouragement and comfort given on this forum. Bless all of you for your loving kindness. Happy Fathers Day 2021 to all our Dad's around the world.

Especially those going through persecutions because of their presenting the Witness of Christ to the lost and dying world. Matthew 28: 18-20