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As I'm sure you've seen my previous posts about this. I'm sorry if my perspective offends you but it is way more vast than just the Ten Commandments. If that was all God wanted us to follow that would be pretty simple. I'm going to put together a list for you of just some things we are to avoid.
Some people think to "love one another" is simple. Actually it can be the hardest thing in life. To put loving others before everything, even your own self.
This is also just a simple list to guide us and is not everything we must repent of or stay away from: evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murder, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness, Being filled with all unrighteousness, maliciousness, full of envy, debate, malignity, whisperers, Backbiters, despiteful, proud, boasting, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful, uncleanness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, drunkenness/drugs, revellings, lovers of their own selves, boasters, unthankful, unholy, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, love of pleasures more than loving God, sowing discord between bretheren, filthy communication out of your mouth, cursing, anger, etc. Then this posted after several places "they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."
It is much more vast than just the Ten Commandments. This is why God has Blessed us to receive the Holy Ghost and we are to live after the Spirit of Christ in us. Not after the flesh. Which we are in these bodies until our journey here is over. Our fight is to war against what is evil(in the flesh) and do good(live after the Spirit). Stated at the end of Galatians if we strive to produce good fruit of the Spirit against such there is no law.
God Bless.
God Bless.
You may be in difficult times. Don't get discouraged. Just remember how God has already parted the Red Sea many a time in your life and delivered you. On your knees and read God's words what He wants for you. The best is yet to come....
John 14:15 where Jesus says to obey His commandments, He didn't specify to only obey the 10 Commandments and He didn't say to only obey the greatest commandments. He didn't specify or narrow it down to which commandments, so by default, I believe it means all of them. I think this includes things spoken to us through the Holy Ghost, as it says in John 14:26...
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
James 2:10. We should strive to be obedient, while loving and forgiving ourselves too when we get off track. Ephesians 2:8.
It's very simple. The 10 Commandments.
Jesus said:
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
This is not supposed to be complicated.
Believe and trust what Jesus says.
God Bless
GBU
You and others here are confusing and trying to complicate the issue....by trying to mix in the old ceremonial laws into the 10 Commandments.
Below you state:
Do you keep God's commandments by getting circumcised as per Leviticus 12:3?
Do you keep God's commandments and dwell in booths for seven days every year as per Leviticus 23:42?
Do you make fringes on the border of your garments as per God's commandment at Numbers 15:38?
Do you go up to Jerusalem three times a year as per God's commandment at Exodus 23:17?
God's 10 Commandments DO NOT include any of the above listed old testament ceremonial laws.
Brother Michael: Do you believe this scripture verse below spoken by Jesus?
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
God bless
This is a reference to the testimony of the one hundred forty four thousand sealed Israelites during the great tribulation; the book eaten in vs 10 is the Bible. This must occur, their daily prophesy against anti-christ, at the sixth trumpet, till before the seventh trumpet: vs 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel (trumpet), when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
The two witnesses, the unsung hero's, will be getting the attention of media and kings for 42 months.
I agree, when we read the Bible and pray for understanding from God's Holy Spirt we are blessed with full understanding.
We SHOULD NOT depend on men or the church to guide us.....but the TRUE scripture.
It's hard for me to observe many modern day christians and church's believing that they can ignore God's 10 Commandment's.
To me, it all boils down to the most powerful verse spoken by Jesus Christ:
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
This verse is small but it says it ALL....
If we disagree with this verse, we disagree with Jesus Christ!
God Bless
I'm not here to get in between this discussion. Just wondering who are "these people" who teach and keep people from reading the Old Testament you have stated twice now? Obviously no one here, I know of, as the Old Testament is regularly spoken of and promoted.
There is a New Testament(Covenant). Here's God speaking of it in the Old Testament, Jeremiah 31:31-34. Yes the Old Testament is quoted several hundred times in the New Testament. Though there are many things in the New Testament not in the Old Testament.
Just to be clear to maybe help others you are conversing with. What are God's Laws or God's Commandments you are stating we should follow? All of the 613 Mitzvot laws or just the Ten Commandments?
Jesus Christ is the way.
1 John 3:22-24 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.
And this is His commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
And he that keepeth His commandments dwelleth in Him, and He in him. And hereby we know that He abideth in us, by the Spirit which He hath given us.
Romans 13:8 & 10 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
God Bless.
Thank you for asking me to share my thoughts. Here they are:
In John 15:6, the word abide (MENO) denotes permanency. There are branches that are in the tree but are dead branches, and there are those branches that abide permanently in the tree or vine. It says if a man abide not in me. So this is talking about someone who is not saved. A saved person is a person who is abiding in Him, and that person is the one who abides permanently. It's the dead branches (Unsaved) that are cast into the fire. These branches do not produce fruit because they are dead.
I can't take Romans 11:21 without considering Verses 19 and 20 also. Why were the natural branches not spared? These branches were broken off because of their unbelief. This is referring to the Jews who rejected their Messiah. No salvation there.
2 Peter 2:20-22 does not tell me they were saved. Having knowledge of the Lord does not mean they were saved. In Verse 21, the emphasis is on what they know. They haven't surrendered their life to Christ. Verse 22 would indicate to me that they were never saved. They had the knowledge of the truth, but never surrendered to Christ.
There has to be a transformation and a change because a pig will always go back. You can wash it, put a bow around its neck, spray it with perfume, and you know what's going to happen. It's going to dive right back into that mud hole again.
Both verses in Hebrews are referring to Jews who were following along with the teachings and were being enlightened to the truth, but never surrendered their life to Christ because of the persecution they would face if they were to do so. Do you realize what it would cost a Jew, even today if they were to give up Judaism to receive Christ as their Messiah? These Jews were being enlightened to the truth but instead of surrendering to Christ, they decided to return back to Judaism.
The gifts and callings are without repentance. As we stay plugged into Jesus, by way of the Holy Spirit: the gifts operate; as He wills it. He anoints the person with the gift.
If we don't know anything about these gifts, it's not going to make much sense to the natural mind. The natural mind of man/woman is at enmity with God.
There's a really good book you can pick up: "The Spiritual Man", by Watchman Nee. It will enlighten you just how useless a gift is when it's guided by a mind of carnality.
I do not mean to offend anyone at all. I found that very WEIGHTY book quite offensive! I stuck with it and knew that the rest of my life would be a battle between spiritual, or carnal (flesh; meat).
The soul is like a willful child that follows whatever is dragging it along.
The thought that we could fully give ourselves to take on the character of the Spiritual man/woman is a lifelong quest to follow the Holy Spirit. Whatever he says, do it. He will prepare us and anoint us for each task.
You need to accept that there are modern day, apostles. They are called MISSIONARIES. They go to where God leads them. The local church sends, equips, supports financially, intercedes for. They go where others are terrified to go. They could be killed for their work.
God still has Prophets. God speaks, they listen. The ones that God uses today aren't on stage: they are intercessors who give birth to Thus Saith The Lord. Ezekial 37:5. It's full time ministry. Stand in the gap; Build up a Hedge of prayer and protection. Fight off attacks from satan Eph 6. Sit in the Watchtowers. They don't have time or desire for worldly pleasures. War Room people.
We should all give our gifts to God for His use.
ISAIAH 6:7-11
Mishael
I can tell you that I am very secure in my salvation. Jesus Christ has given me eternal life. He gave me Himself, and He is eternal. As long as He lives in me, I will remain saved. And he said He will NEVER leave me. I'm not being arrogant. I'm just trusting in God's saving power. I'm sorry if you're not secure in your salvation. It would be hard for me to live day by day wondering if this is going to be the day I lose my salvation. I place my full trust in Jesus Christ when it comes to salvation. I don't agree that eternal security or "Once saved, always saved" comes from Satan. I would be more inclined to believe that Satan wants us to believe we can lose our salvation. Satan is the one who accuses us and puts doubt and fear in our minds and causes us to have doubts.
I've read through Revelation and I do not see any concrete evidence of a true believer, one who loves the Lord and keeps His commandments, losing their salvation. Jesus said if you love me, you will keep my commandments. That is not a challenge for us to try and keep them. He's giving us a factual statement. YOU WILL keep them. Why? Because His Spirit dwells within and causes that person to keep His commandments.
I'm also sorry to hear that you have been taught not to read the Old Testament. No one has ever taught me that. If you feel you might lose your salvation, I would start looking for verses that show you that you have eternal security in Christ Jesus. That's my hope for all who have doubts about their salvation, that they may find comfort in the one who has saved them, the one who has promised to never leave them, and the one who is keeping them until the day He comes back to redeem them!
Likewise, God makes (or, gives) peace. If He chooses to remove that peace, that absence of peace is unrest, war, turmoil (evil). So I don't believe the verse indicates that God specifically chooses to create evil (sin?), but when He removes peace & serenity from a person or from the world, the result is not good at all. Maybe we could ask, 'Why would God want to remove the peace He gives?' It could be for accomplishing of His purposes in man or in the world & to show man how deep his wickedness can go when God is not in his view & His Peace is not in Him. And we remember, that these words were spoken to Cyrus (verse 1), a Persian ruler, whom God used to accomplish His purposes on behalf of Israel. So these words came to remind Cyrus who this God of Israel was with Whom he was dealing with.
Thank you for your response. Yes, we both agree that we must obey God's commandments and remain faithful until death to inherit the blessings. Where we don't, perhaps, see eye to eye is what are the commandments of God today.
Do you keep God's commandments by getting circumcised as per Leviticus 12:3?
Do you keep God's commandments and dwell in booths for seven days every year as per Leviticus 23:42?
Do you make fringes on the border of your garments as per God's commandment at Numbers 15:38?
Do you go up to Jerusalem three times a year as per God's commandment at Exodus 23:17?
If you answer no, it seems to me that you don't, after all, obey God's commandments. Jesus and the Apostle John did not say, "If you obey the 10 commandments", but rather, "If you obey the commandments" (all the commandments). The question arises, though, which commandments?
I would suggest the commandments of the New Covenant (or Testament) found in the portion of our Bibles called the New Testament.
As for Matthew 5:17-18, please note one important point - it says till all be fulfilled. The purpose of the law was fulfilled when Christ offered up his perfect life in sacrifice. Then, it was done away with. Notice:
Galatians 3:23-25 "But before faith came, we were kept under the law (a schoolmaster), shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore THE LAW WAS our SCHOOLMASTER to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But AFTER that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster (the law).
That's why Jesus also said at the parallel account of Matthew 5:17-18 found at Luke 16:16.
Luke 16:16 "The LAW and the prophets WERE UNTIL JOHN: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it."
Then, Jesus set up the New Covenant.
Luke 22:20 "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you."
I welcome your further thoughts.
Good day, Vince.
It's 10:45 pm here in Ga. I will be glad to continue our conversation tomorrow after work. I have to get up at 4am.
Goodnight and God bless.
I was wanting to answer your question, "If God, Himself, told us that there is no New Thing under the Sun, why do we have a New Testament?"
Good question.
I would suggest you ask God that question since he himself prophesied through his prophet Jeremiah that he would set up a New Covenant (or Testament).
Jeremiah 31:31-32 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant (testament) with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant (testament) that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant (testament) THEY BRAKE, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Notice why God sets up the New Covenant. It says they brake (in modern English, broke) the Mosaic law covenant or testament. Thus, when a contract is broken, you have to set up a new one.
Hebrews 8:7 "For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second."
Hebrews 8:13 "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."
God is God. He does what he wants. We can be sure that whatever he does is just and perfect.
I welcome your comments.
Good day.
Can you give a little more clarity?
" can a Christian be come a chief."
Thanks and God bless.