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The Revelation Ch.16.18-ch.20 (1 of 2)

Rev.17 along with Rev.12 serve the same purpose as the mark Selah carries in the book of Psalms.The seven angels with vials cover judgment of the world framed by Satan where power and authority of kings ten in number altogether, are seriously curtailed. It is to which the angel refers in Rev.17. 10-14. And significant is that these ten kings are fighting against the Lamb and not to any man on the earth.

"And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done."(Rev.16.17).The divine Will is in the Now and what does that mean for us?

This is determined in the will of God and it is in the world framed by the word of God. His absolute Power and Wisdom thus gives us a foretaste how our struggles in our flesh and body shall shape up. It is to which St Paul refers," For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." In Rev.12 we read of this ongoing 'struggle' in v.7 " And there was war in heaven."(12.7) We have the prophecy concerning temporal kings in the book of Daniel chs. 8-11.

The voice from heaven announces 'it is done' so shall it be in the end times. Rev.16.17. In this context we have two kings, the beast that was, and is not, and yet is' as in Rev.17.10-14)"The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:....when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is." The label wilderness is a clue for us to be concerned about. It is closer to our times. "And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place," (12.14). Gen.1.2 indicated generations in terms of the waters, "the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:"(17.1. State and religion of our times

Thanks Brother Ronald.

Admins is aware and working on the issues.

For a second I thought I was hacked!

Glad to know you're doing well m

Let's keep Brother Jesse in prayer so the Insurance and repairs go well.

Blessings neighbor.

Ps.69.17 'Servant-king'

"And hide not thy face from thy servant; for I am in trouble: hear me speedily."

This is a psalm attributed to David but he references ample examples of the earthly ministry of the Son. The book of Psalm broadly speaking is the song of soul of a believer created in our image and after our likeness. When David speaks of his sufferings he is addressing his soul which from great many examples we may safely conclude is a sign that Jesus Christ is everpresent. He is like the fourth presence in the fiery furnace. "and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God."(Dan.3.25)

This psalm began with afflictions 'for the waters are come in unto my soul' and we may have to go through fire and water and St Paul understood the reason. "Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,"(Phi.3.8-11) Jesus also forewarned us, "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." ( Jn 16.33)

Consider the many references in this psalm: Because for thy sake I have borne reproach; shame hath covered my face.

8I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children.

9For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me.

v.12 They that sit in the gate speak against me; and I was the song of the drunkards. As Jesus was led forth he was mocked all around for them he was a nobody fallen out of favour.

v.21 "They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.

St Peter exhorts us, "But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy."(1 Pe.4.13)

Thanks brother Giannis for your reply. I did appreciate the way you understand this matter of judgement, i.e. with a view to help a wayward brother to face up to his problem & to guide him with real care & affection. As Jesus spoke in Matthew 18:15: "if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother." If one has sinned against me, judging & rejecting him would achieve very little for the Kingdom of God (and even then my judgement of him may well be in error). Rather, if the matter is brought up to him & he is prepared to listen & resolve it, then truly I have gained my brother. But all this has to be done as a first step: for our mutual healing & restoration in the family of God.

Yet, even before all this takes place, our own heart's first response is critical. Do we get agitated & stew over such an offence committed and then simmer down only after the Spirit deals with our uncalled-for response; or rather, the mature believer immediately knows what turmoil is ready to arise in the heart, and rather than be tempted to judge, he quickly deals with it lest it becomes sin? This maybe easy to discern but certainly not easy to deal with. As the Holy Spirit takes control more & more of our lives, dealing with our weaknesses & failings, I think our thinking & attitudes will align much more closely to what God requires of our behavior. And this will express itself in our thinking, our speech & a true loving response to the one offending. Thanks again brother for these necessary reminders and that we ought to judge ourselves first in all things. Blessings.

Glad to hear that people here weathered the storm without injury.

Jesse, I hope that all goes smoothly with your insurance claim so that repairs can be started right away. You will be in "remodel mode" for a while, it seems. I'd love to hear of your progress.

S. Spencer and Ronald, glad your homes were spared. It is most likely many people have suffered damages. I hope that they all get needed help, assistance, and timely repairs.

I pray for all who have been injured. May the Lord restore your bodies to health quickly.

Hi S Spencer,

Happy to hear you didn't have any damage. I received the first email reply from Richard, which I believe both came from you with Richard's name on them. Your reply was showing in my comments, I guess that is why my name is on it, not yours. I'm not sure what happened; the site might be having problems, I'm sure they will fix.

I have been trying to sign in, and when I sign in and click on reply, it kicks me out. For a while now, my posts remain in the moderation queue for hours before they appear on the discussion page. Don't know if it is just me or others have the same issue.

Thanks, brother, have a good week.

God bless.

RLW

Something is mondo bizarro here; two places to sign in and then defaults to saved bible verses that I read. Somehow other comments misdirected to me.

Anyway much of what I'm talking about is probably too obvious to warrant comments; perhaps it helps me to search out scriptures so it is more for my own edification. Personally still dealing with Dad in facility now for a month; lay there at least seems to know the Lord hopefully her or someone there will witness to him. My aunt has convinced me to let him have his computer; his mind is so far gone he doesn't even recognize the two gift cards I bought him and of course he's still obsessed about going back home.

IF I hear from my friend in Pittsburgh I plan to go second week of April to check about working with former employer full time; but it seems legally speaking I can't sell my parent's house. May look for another part time job or full time work here in Philly area.

Helping out a friend in church who is too physically impaired to work and appreciate the fellowship for the time being. I may reconsider getting to nursing home ministry; seems after my illness in summer 2023 the one has new management and the door may be closed but there is one down the street where I had one study with 2 people back then before I was hospitalized.

May be a good thing for the summer; was able to get a few weeks work with frozen produce job with my current employer again this summer.

You can pray for these postings in general I talk A LOT probably too much; would be beneficial to spend more time evangelizing and reading the Word; I am trying though to use as much time as I have effectively. Also starting with biweekly prophecy discussion with someone online; her husband as well as a few other people. I want it to be focused on God's presence and not get into intellectual exercizes (others aren't PreTrib Rapture proponents) but nonetheless fairly mature people there.

Will be glad to meet you after the Rapture.

RHP

Something strange is going on here!

I sent this message to Brother Ronald

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Hi Brother Ronald.

I'm happy to hear you were sparred any damage around the house.

We had high wind, lightning and thunder but no damage. I don't believe we had any tornadoes touch down in the area.

Thanks to all for the prayers.

God bless"

However on the site it shows being sent from Richard to Ronald!!

Hi Brother Ronald.

I'm happy to hear you were sparred any damage around the house.

We had high wind, lightning and thunder but no damage. I don't believe we had any tornadoes touch down in the area.

Thanks to all for the prayers.

God bless

Hi Brother Ronald.

We had high wind, lightning and thunder but no damage. I don't beli

Thanks for asking.

Christ the Perfect Man (Day 3 part 3)

7. Christ was unpredictable. Unlike the imaginary sage or wise man that everybody loved who never said anything hurtful to offend people's feelings; Jesus Himself admitted that He came to cause division rather than peace ( Luke 12:53); yet He also said "blessed are the peacemakers" in Matthew 5:9. He would be invited to homes of the Pharisees; then excoriate them as to how He was treated (see Luke 7:45). His own Disciples were confused as to the necessity of dying in Jerusalem despite many statements about it He had to rebuke Satan when Peter spoke about these things never occurring ( Matt. 16:23). This was the same Peter who shortly before that stated who Christ truly was which only could have come from God ( Matt. 16:15-16). He sidestepped about 10 attempts on His life that we know of; but then deliberately headed toward Jerusalem where He knew He would die. Thomas at least understood it ( John 11:16-26 when he knew of the opposition faced when going back to raise Lazarus from the grave which was within weeks of the crucifixion I believe). His Resurrection sadly wasn't expected once the report came back from the women who were the first to arrive at the grave to see evidence and hear from the angels that He had risen. Women were an important aspect along with the Samaritans and Gentiles which the Pharisees couldn't understand.

I will attempt to look at several specific instances in the life of Christ to show how His approach; forethought and actions represent a perfect man; and how His example and those of the Apostles in the early church show about how and how not to do God's work as everyone had their character traits; flaws and at times outward sins. We therefore can conclude we all should emulate Christ and the Apostles; but we also all live in different situations and have different responsibilities incorporated into the good works He has given us to do planned since the foundation of the world ( Eph. 2:10).

As my last posting stated unregenerate man in the accounts of the Kings of Israel and in fact from Genesis to Revelation demonstrates nothing but evil. Genesis 6:5 shows that the ACTIONS of men when they were fully demonstrated led to judgment as it will when the wickedness is fully ripe such as with grapes when they are treaded under the winepress of God's wrath in Revelation 19 and other prophetic related scriptures.

As C.S. Lewis indicated Christ was either a lunatic; a liar or THE TRUTH. His words are piercing; but so is all scripture describing the state of man who desperately needs a Savior. Bad news has to be understood before the Good News in regard to our state; not that every detail needs to be understood but enough exposed; which only the Spirit can reveal to a man.

Thus scripture is either a great moral lesson or THE truth for someone; it is either an entertaining mystical adventure or it leads us to the conclusion that it is either heaven or hell for us. The natural tendency is to use scripture to justify ourselves; we have all heard the analogy "I am better than Hitler; or a serial killer; blah blah". We could say the "Devil made me do it" rather than attesting to the cause of our misery is our own sin that allows the enemy to wreak havoc on our lives. The Devil can be allowed to do all sorts of things but can't force us to sin. Truth be told we are in sin all the time if we aren't alive in Christ but the enemy wants to find a way to kill steal and destroy. We dare not take Satan as a joke either but scripture makes a true believer victorious and courageous (bold as a lion) ( Prov. 28:1). Preaching to myself here...

My final thought at present is that for the Ephesians 6 type believer we wield the sword of power based on Scripture; not on some esoteric experience. Only when the Lord is truly showing us something that is scriptural does it benefit us; the Word helps us to see what is of God; man or Satan.

St Paul's ship wreck

Ps.69.4 "Restore that which..."(2 of 2)

"Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time./And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child."(Rev.12.12-13) This shall explain the key verse. Satan hates God's Will and the people He has chosen for his city of habitation. So Jesus cite this line,'They that hate me without a cause.' So wrongfully the beast and sons of perdition have maintained implacable hatred. Imposter churches that have no reference for truth play into the hands of the enemies to Christ. The nation of Israel is one example.

God sent his word and healed them from their destructions. When God sent his Son he healed precisely because God has sent forth his word. So what does Jesus Christ in the key verse say? "I restored that which I took not away."

Third point is with counting. Jesus assured,"But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore." (Lk.12.7) Satan tempted David to count heads, "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel."(1 Chro.21.1) David was relying on his own strength and served as Satan's decoy. The battle is of the Lord. Wicked world sets status symbols and how much is too much, never comes up in their foolish heads. What gives? Satan simply made them noodleheads.

Ps.69.4 "Restore that which..."(1 of 2)

They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head: they that would destroy me, being mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty: then I restored that which I took not away."

Here in v.4 we have three aspects that illustrate the world framed by the devil and he sins from the beginning. Lucifer resisted God and it was his will,"I will ascend into heaven," (Isa.14.13). If God has his Will so shall he and also impose his will. What did he lack? The Word with God, and not with the spirit gone rogue. When Satan tempted he showed the glory of worldly kingdoms, "And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time./And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it./If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine."(Lk.4.5-7) He takes Jesus to to 'an high mountain' which is set in context of the mountain where Jesus transfigured. It is a holy mountain.(2 Pet.1.18) Holy mountain is the emblem for God and his Will. In short the world framed by God is according to the Law of the Spirit while the world framed by Satan is on the basis of power and authority of a deceptive kind. "All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it," does not say for how long. Law of sin and death makes whosoever meddles with him shall die, He shall be counted as a fool.

One such a fool figures in the Parable of the Rich fool. And another is the beast, "And the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority." But is only for a short duration.

Chris & GiGi, my dear brother and sister in Christ, thank you both so much for the prayers. Through all of this, no matter the outcome, the Lord is good. In my case, I have to wonder if maybe this is the Lord's way of telling me not to get too comfortable with the material things in this life. I give the Lord thanks even when hardship comes along because I believe He puts us through trials as a way of teaching us to trust in Him.

Blessings to you both!

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Chris, 3/3 last post.

Can we help God do what He wants to do with our brothers? Let us help by praying for them. But what we often do is to spoil what God wishes to do by condemning our brothers and cause problems in the church.

Now from my experience in life I found out that if I can not bear what a brother has done and if I see that a dislike is created in my heart for that brother then it is better to close my eyes and see nothing. Firstly I must protect my own soul.

Finally I will tell you a real story which helps to see how God sees us, His children.

A sister suffered a type of cancer in her spinal cord or something like that. During a night on her bed in hospital she was suffering a lot. So she prayed to God to make the pain at least less painful than it was. And she heard inside her God's voice that told her, "I feel the same pain everytime I hear you gossiping and judging your brothers and sistrers". Obviously that sister was doing the wrong thing and God taught her a lesson. This is a real story Chris, it is not a tale, I heard it from that sister personally. For yor information she was finally cured after having some surgeries and a medical cure from a type of cancer that is almost 100% deadly.

I don't know if I have answered your questions brother. This how I see it. Let God correct me if I am wrong. Blessings.

Chris, 2/3

So you see brother that the intention is to help my brother repent and correct himself, and not to condemn him.

Lets read Matthew 18:15-18. It is when my brother sins to me. In all three cases the outcome we wish to get is not to punish my brother, but to make him repent and so to "..., thou hast gained thy brother.". To gain him. Everything has to be done with love not with any other intention. The outcome must be to "gain my brother.". But if I Judge/condemn my brother things change. Even in the case when a fornication occured in Corinth Paul suggests that that man had to be expelled from the church as a last means to make him repent 1 Cor 5:5, "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.".

Of course here we are dealing with serious sins, not just a lie or something similar. 1 Cor 11, "But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.". We must always give the chance and the appropriate time for our brothers to repent but if they never do then we must expell them from the church, for them to repent , and for the rest to be protected.

But this is something to be done only by the elders or the pastor. Nobody else has the right to intervene in such matters apart from informing the hierarchy of the church.

Lately I have started seeing all those things under a different prism. Who saved us? Who brought us in a church? Who is making a huge effort to correct us, to change us? Isn't it God himself? Is it us that we have saved our brothers? Is it us that we have planted them in the church? Is it us that we are going to change them? Obviously not. This is God's task. So our focus must be in ourselves not in what the other person is doing or not doing. We are here to correct ourselves, not the others.

See pt 3

Hello Chris, 1/3

Really it is a complicated topic. The following is my opinion.

If we read Matthew 7:1-5 where it speaks about judging our brothers, the point of what Jesus is saying is not about discerning our brother's actions. The wrong doings of others are obvious to everybody. But there are two ways in seeing those actions. Either we judge them which means we condemn them for what they had done. Or we still see those sins but with a mood to help, not to condemn. We can cry and pray to God to help them. This is the right attitude I believe. It is the attitude of love.

As we grow spiritually and God walks us through various events in our life we get more tolerant to our brothers. Once when I was young in faith I cought a deacon saying a lie. So I condemned him in my heart, "a deacon saying a lie?" it was too much for me at that time. Later on I found myself in a condition that I was sort of compelled to lie. That tought me a lesson. Do not judge strictly your brother if you don't know what he goes through. In his shoes you might had done something worse than what he had done. When we are strict judges of our brothers God always passes us through the same path that our brother went through, so for us to understand how it feels and also to see how we behave ourselves under the same conditions. Then and only then we can realize the trials that our brothers are going through and be more tolerant to them.

Didn't Jesus know what Judas the Iscariot was doing all the time, that he was stealing money? Yes He did. So why didn't He send him away or reveal to others what he was doing? Because He was giving him the chance to repent. And He made clear to Judas that He knew what Judas was going to do and gave him all the time to repent, although He knew the outcome. Jesus did everything from His side to make Judas repent. He even called him "friend" when Judas came with the crowd to arrest Him. It was Jesus' last effort to break that stonny heart of Judas.

See pt 2

Christ the Perfect Man (Day 3; part 2)

More specific purposes of Christ during His earthly ministry

4. Calling out of His Disciples. He spent all night in prayer prior to this event. ( Luke 6:12-13). Some may think that He had to decide who to choose; but I doubt it. That was something I would think was foreknown; especially since the son of perdition Judas Iscariot had to be picked as well although I am not sure where in scripture the initial meeting was with him; maybe someone can let me know about that. No doubt He prayed for them to readily accept Him and for obstacles from the enemy not to thwart things to come. Overall this would complicate His mission as times had to be set aside with this "inner circle" for further discussion of matters and discipling through hard sayings. This would be the beginning of the church which He would further develop in the absence after His death and Resurrection when the Holy Spirit fell at Pentecost.

5. Warning of destruction to come. The future persecutions of the Disciples and travail of the nation of Israel as a whole eventually were expanded to the birth pangs of the world in general as illustrated in Matthew 24. Everything familiar to the Jewish nation would be shook; with the destruction of the Temple and many Jews during AD 70; largely due to their blindness of Christ and who He was ( Matt. 23:37). He deliberately talked very little about ruling and reigning in the Millennial Kingdom as no doubt that was the expectation and hope even of the Disciples at that time of His soon arrival in that mode. This is mentioned in Acts 1:6 as something alluded to have happened earlier.

6. Always considering others needs above His own. Jesus came to serve and not be served. ( Mark 10:45). This could perhaps be best demonstrated in His statement to John when hanging on the cross ( Luke 19:25-29). It appears Joseph was dead at this time and Jesus knew John would live the longest so he was to take Mary in.

Christ the Perfect Man (Day 3 Part 1)

My last post brought out the fact that indeed Gentiles were part of God's plan; and we can further see this in many other O.T. scriptures ( Isaiah 49:6; etc). Man's pride couldn't square the suffering servant made so clear in describing Christ's first coming in Isaiah 53 as characterizing the Messiah. They even denied that their heritage came from people that were enslaved numerous times in their history! ( John 8:33). Even if they called Him teacher being a good man wasn't enough to save them from their sins; but of course when He made such claims they called it blasphemy! ( Luke 5:21).

Let's do an introductory overview of Christ's many itineraries which He had to fulfill the purposes God intended in His ministry. Some of these things are unique to Him but certainly lessons can be learned as to how we plan our days in service to the King.

1. Doing all things the Father willed. John 5:19 perhaps sums this up the best. In His mission there was the inevitable death on the cross on His mind following a perfect sinless life; albeit brief walking on the earth for 33 or so years as the perfect Man. ( Luke 9:22 and many similar verses in the Gospels).

2. Salvation by forgiveness of sin was a theme that overrided any of His miracles; nonetheless there is no clear statement that everyone He healed became saved. (see John 8:45 with deliberate disobedience in His command not to start a media "circus" as a result of healing). It was imperative that Messiah forgive men's sins but then they would have to realize that He was indeed the "I am" ( John 8:48-59 further on in the passage of John quoted above).

3. Coming to display obedience to His family before the predestined time to reach full manhood and the onset of public ministry.

Jesus had no obligation to be obedient in this way; and it was not in order to simply give in to His parents wishes but to do God's will. He was the perfect worker; brother and son.

Thanks to all the brothers and sisters around the globe for your love and prayers, I have no damage here, just high winds and limbs to pick up. I pray S Spencer can say the same; many cannot, and I pray for them. Jesse, praying your repairs go fast and without complications. Prayers for those who have lost homes, businesses, and loved ones. I believe close to 40 lives were lost in these storms across the states, may that number not rise.

God bless,

RLW

John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Isaiah 52:14 "As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:"

Belief in the Son was emphasized even by John the Baptist as a second witness as Jesus started His public ministry ( John 3:23-36). Nonetheless He often hid who He was; particularly early in His ministry ( Matt. 16:20 may be a later statement to this affect). As stated in my last post He often told people to tell no man about who did a miracle ( Matt. 8:4) so He didn't want any necessary noteriety. Those who didn't have eyes to see and ears to hear ( Matt. 13:16) simply thought He was a Prophet; or good man at best; or an illegitimate child to Mary ( John 8:41).

Given these facts and the blindness of man without the revelation of God ( 2 Cor. 4:4) we shouldn't be surprised by the world's expectations of a superman or bermensch as Neche called this individual. Men who didn't see the Lord as coming to save rather than destroy men were blind to their own state. They should have realized who Christ was regarding the clear prophecies particularly in Isaiah 53. There was a reason for the delay in what indeed will involve Christ coming to destroy His enemies and establish His Kingdom on earth; and some Jews seem to have the concept of two different figures to make sense of apparently diametrically opposed characteristics of Christ as suffering servant and conquering King.

The fact is that God planned it so the nation of Israel would be blind in part until the fullness of the Gentiles came in ( Romans 11:25). Given the fact that Naaman the Syrian and the widow who Elijah helped to feed and raise her child to life were Gentiles (Jesus enraged the Pharisees mentioning that God exclusively met her need at the expense of many others with similar situations that were Jews at that time ( Luke 4:25) was important.

Rev.17:17-18 "The great city"

And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

The great city which is intended here is Jerusalem."the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." (Rev.11.8) Jerusalem is spiritually merely label so we may safely add the name Babylon to the ever growing list of names. "And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah./It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation." (Is.13.19-20; "to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons." (Jer.10.22) How come these calamities have become the portion of cities of man? For the simple reason that there is only one city that God has prepared for man as his habitation. "And he led them forth by the right way, that they might go to a city of habitation." There is only one right way which is in his Son. "I am the way, the truth and the life."( Jn 14.6;Ps.107.7)

God framed the worlds by the word of his mouth.(Heb.11.3) So the unseen aspects of His Will have a city of habitation which is being prepared for His people. For this reason Abraham settled in tents. " By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:/ For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God."(Heb.11.9-10). This city is New Jerusalem and it is heavenly city and it is the city which shall be made to appear when it is done. The adjective New applies to everyman or woman born of a woman, The natural world is their cradle like the field is the world in the Parable of the tares. Being born again makes them a new creation so they shall be found there. Whereas Devil also frames a world to which he slipped in tares, and heresies makes all his cities same.

Ps.69.2 "Mire" (2 of 2)

(Continued)

Historically Christianity has become attached to a pagan world as a baby to his mother at birth so doctrinal mire is direct consequence of the Church of Rome filching pagan Laws, rites and even their temples to the shame. The king's dream as interpreted by Daniel refers directly to this mismatch.. Miry clay is no better than scum and the Spirit warns us that we are inexorably sucked up so there is no standing. What standing can all those TV celebrities claim when their spectacular fall from grace is splashed across news media? what the psalmist here refers can be explained by the fall of Jerusalem/Babylon delineated in Rev.17, Jerusalem represents the church whose heresies make her a whore; She is set on seven hills, "And there are seven kings:five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come"(v.10). Add to the heads we have their base ever in flux, "And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues."(v.15) Seven signifies political ideologies which are tried and when collapses create such a debris and it is what makes up the miry clay. "

Coming back to the king's dream we have the miry clay compromising with the two feet of iron. "And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken."(Dan.2.42-43) Ten toes tell us these imposter churches are under the Law of sin and death. So they shall not correct even if one were to prove their heresy as unclean for the simple reason, "Who can bring a cleanthingout of an unclean? not one."( Job 14.4) Religious wars as well as all that bloodletting brought by revolutions in the history of nations were devil's business.

Ps.69.2 "Mire"-1

"I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into deep waters, where the floods overflow me."

Where does this mire come from? Isaiah gives us a verse, " But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt./ There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked."(Is.57.20-21) We shall compare from a parable set in the book of Ezekiel, "And utter a parable unto the rebellious house, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Set on a pot, set it on, and also pour water into it:/ Gather the pieces thereof into it, even every good piece, the thigh, and the shoulder; fill it with the choice bones./ Take the choice of the flock, and burn also the bones under it, and make it boil well, and let them seethe the bones of it therein./ Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Woe to the bloody city, to the pot whose scum is therein."(Ezek.24.3-6) Where does this scum wells up but from the entire contents in the pot? God is referring to the blood and violence that was rampant in Jerusalem and it was 'business as usual.' But God sees the city 'and whose scum is not gone out.' When the pot is seething all these scum shall ooze out and float. We have seen such scum arising given social unrest. Jerusalem when beset by Babylon brought it up and do we not see it in our times. When societal collapse is taking place and social mores and moral principles are thrown out the base comes out and they are the most visible nevertheless scum and whatever it throws up can only be as worthless as they. Isaiah compares nations to a troubled sea, and what peace are they talking about?

Mire is as much as a part of the whole world, as state and religion are like pieces of meat thrown into the cooking pot produces naturally. Historically Christianity has become attached to a pagan world as a baby to his mother at birth so doctrinal mire is direct consequence of the Church of Rome filching pagan Laws,

Sorry to get this news this morning brother Jesse. Will keep your situation (as also brothers S. Spencer & Ronald) in prayer, that the Lord would be merciful to you all & also to your friends/neighbors in the area. He can still bring blessing & help in the midst of disaster - keep leaning on Him.

Brother Giannis. Thank you for reminding us about our often quick judgement of others, when we need to first look at ourselves & take stock of our own sins & inadequacies before condemning others in theirs.

However, I would seek your impressions or understanding of the passage you quoted ( Romans 2:1-4) and also 1 Corinthians 5:9-13. I believe the latter one commands the Church to judge anyone who is "called a brother" & deal with him for his sins, by separation from him and excommunication. Yet, Romans 2:1-4 seems to denounce any judgement, knowing that the same sins are committed and we all stand under God's Judgement.

So, the problem I see here is, to whom is the apostle referring to in Romans? In chapter 1, he clearly is referring to the unsaved Gentiles ( Romans 1:18-32), showing their idolatry, lusts, & many sins. But when the apostle continues on in chapter 2, it now seems that the unsaved Jew is being spoken of, as those who are now hypocrites, judging others when their own sins are exposed. His use of "O Man, whosoever thou art that judgest" (v1) and "Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law" (v17), indicates that Paul is now speaking to/about the unsaved Jew, who are no different to the Gentile, in their hypocrisy & unjust judgement.

The point I'm making here is, given those Scripture portions for consideration, I wonder what the limitations of the Church or even an individual believer are in this matter of judgement. Clearly, the elders have to continually make judgements against others (whether they choose to do so by identifying them, counseling, warning, or expulsion), and we too as individual believers need to recognize sinning wayward congregants, therefore making some type of judgement against them (whether done internally in our hearts or not). Maybe judgement is allowed after all, yet it must always be a 'righteous judgement', without hypocrisy & knowing that we still have to answer to the Lord for our thoughts, words & actions.

Christ the Perfect Man (Day 2 part 2)

In one sense Christ was different than everyone else in His humanity. His thoughts and life were pure yet certainly the enemy likely put thoughts of sins in his mind common to man such as lust; hating his enemies; etc. Being the Son of God Satan couldn't accuse Him of anything done wrong; and also had unique temptations as we see when Jesus was led into the wilderness to fast for 40 days. Making stones into bread isn't something anyone can do as a mere man. Throwing Himself down in a suicidal move wasn't going to fly and neither was worshipping Satan. The enemy may offer these things from time to time but only will succeed with Antichrist in the future.

Regarding my last post the Messiah WAS according to the Prophets supposed to come to rule and subdue the nations of the world but that was in the Second Coming; the first was as the suffering servant prophesied in Isaiah 51; hence Isaiah 61 was cut short in His temple proclamation ( Luke 4:16-30). Thus everything according to man's understanding was backwards. Jesus did not come:

As from a regal or wealthy family of notoriety although fulfilled the prophecies as being a descendant of David

To show off His Divinity by signs; wonders and miracles as brought out by the faithlessness of His own hometown ( Mark 6:4).

To allow Himself to be made King by force (as shown in a verse quoted earlier ( John 6:15).

To escape persecution; or to die a peaceful honorable death.

These things bring out what the world's standards are for the "Perfect Man" and who the truly perfect man was. Being considered a pathetic low life is what made Monty Python's sarcastic and disgraceful skit about the Crucifixion as "entertainment" in "Always look at the Bright Side of Life" means. In the next post I will examine further what the world is looking for (soon to be fulfilled in Antichrist); as their superhuman hero to save the planet.