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More confusion to me

1 john 5;7 The Father, the Word, and Holy Ghost are one. the words in this scripture do not say to me 3 separate Compleat persons. It says to me 3 parts to make one person. I have been praying to have peace and understanding about Godhead -Trinity Doctrines but I still do know what to believe. I believe Jesus is the son of God and He sacrificed himself and shed his blood to cover my sins. (pay the price for the sins of mankind)

CJF.

Good evening Bro Dan! Good evening! A few of my own thoughts. The present grace to deny ourselves and follow the Lord without willing sin is a peaceable reality where the same reality is true freedom in Christ without condemnation. This reality is His present Kingdom which has no end. If the Kingdom is another day, then we may be in our own works and not the finished work of Jesus Christ at Calvary. So we harken unto Him today.

continuation from above

I work with the Word of God.Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of GOD,the Word is GOD.So, see the timetable below:

SIX PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES --------------- DURATION

I - From Adam to the Flood- ( Genesis 5)----------1656 years

II - From the Flood to Abraham-( Genesis 11&12)--427years

III - From Abraham to Exodus-(Gal.3:17)----------430 years

IV -From Exodus to king Saul-(1Reis 6:1-480-84)--396 years Davi-40

V -From Saul to the fall of Jerusalem ---------------508 years Saul-40

VI -From the fall of Jerusalem to Jesus ------------.587 years Salomo-4

Thus, from Adam to the 1stcoming of Jesus ----.4004years

From Jesus to our days (Christian Calendar)------2023years

Total from Adam to our days ----------------------6027years

JESUS-the Greater Light, Genesis 1:16-came in the fourth Day or around 4000 years after GOD has started His works of restitution of all things- Genesis 1 combined with Acts 3:19-21.It still was the FOURTH DAY when JESUS said: MY FATHER WORKS HITHERTO, AND I WORK- John 5:17.

From JESUS (FOURTH DAY) until our days,or until this current time,have already passed more TWO DAYS or 2000 years (one Day with the Lord is as a thousand years), in fact 6 complete Days or six complete millenniums, or around 6.000 years, more precisely 6027 years, according Christian Calendarpointing the year 2023.

So, we have entered in the beginning of the FIRST CENTURY of the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day,the Lord's Day, or THE TURN FROM THE SIXTH TO THE SEVENTH DAY, the Millennium of Christ, the Millennium of Truth, the Millennium of Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ, the Millennium of Vengeance.

The world of Devil is already Judged and Condemned, and now, in this seventh and last millennium, it will be punished with strong punishments, the CHASTISEMENTS ALREADY STARTED, there will be only and only punishments in this last Day, the Day of the Lord, King of kings and LORD of lords.

Hi Charlie Slaves

Greetings in Christ JESUS

Your message is very interesting,it caught a lot of my attention where you said that"a graveyard of times created".Lord JESUS said the Father has put the time in His own power- Acts 1:7.When Lord said "all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John"-around 1.500 years- this period was to the "graveyeard",so was reset a different period called New Testament,which is also about to the"graveyeard"very soon.But there was before these two periods,a period of time from Adam until Noah around 1.656 years,and from Noah until Moses-Exodus-that lasted around 857 years.Before Adam there was an Eternity in the garden of Eden,all the above commented periods were, one by one, to the "graveyeard",except the current period which is just now to the "graveyeard" too.

Well, and now? Luke 20:35-36 combined with Rev.20:1-4 -a period of 1000 years,after this will finish into the"graveyeard".

GOD's six Days of creation and one Day of rest(total of 7 days) Scriptures teachs that one Day is with the Lord as a 1000 years (2Pet.3:v.8),so MANKIND would go through six GOD Days of 1,000 years each(total of 6,000 years)plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now 7,000 years).

According to the biblical Chronology, starting by Genesis 5:

Adam lived .................................130 yrs and begat Seth

Seth lived ..........105 yrs " begatEnosh;

Enosh lived ....................................90yrs" begatKenan;

Kenanlived....................................70yrs" begatMahalalel;

Mahalalellived ...............................65yrs" begatJared;

Jaredlived ...................................162yrs " begatEnoch;

Enochlived ....................................65yrs" begatMethuselah;

Methuselahlived............................187yrs" begatLamech;

Lamechlived.................................182yrs" begatNoah;

FromNoahs birthuntilthe Flood.....600 yrs.

FromAdam tothe Flood =.............1656 yrs.

Hello Duncan, it is good to hear from you again.

Jesse,

God hates sin! We need to learn to "hate sin" as much as God hates it!

Very true..you will not need a Savior when you overcome sin, because you will have have listened to God, applied his commands to your life, and allowed Christ to perform His marvelous work in you, to help you overcome the sins in this life - that you and many Christian's believe is impossible. Nothing is impossible for God! And yes, you will then be ready to enter into the Kingdom and "you will not need a Savior as you say"you will have allowed the Savior to do His miraculous work in you at present!

Matthew 5:48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."

If we keep sinning because we feel that we can't stop sinning we are not following Jesus/Gods commands, nor embracing His Spirit. We are keeping our worldly sinful lives intact, and not listening to His instructions, to give up this life, and live according to His Commands.

John 8:34 "Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin."

John 3:3 "Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

If we are truly born again we will learn to hate sin as much as God. Who do you think wants us to think we can never stop sinning? It's not Jesus/God, because He tells us point blank: To stop sinning!

1 John 3:6 "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him."

1 John 3:8 "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil."

By saying we will never overcome sin we are saying that the Son of God can't overcome the devil's sin that works in us, and that we will always be a servant to the devil.

We need to read the scripture, and believe, and apply it to our lives now!

GBU

INTRODUCTION TO 2 THESSALONIANS (Part 3):

Chapter 3: The Instruction: Concerning the Conduct of the Thessalonians.

Some of them thought that if we're in the tribulation period, that means the second coming of Christ is just around the corner, so we'll just quit work and sit around and do nothing because the Lord is coming.

And Paul had some words to say about people who don't work, and just sit around and wait for the things of the Lord come to pass.

This covers 1st and 2nd Thessalonians. I will share my introduction to 1 Timothy soon.

God Bless!!!

INTRODUCTION TO 2 THESSALONIANS (Part 2):

After Silvanus and Timothy returned, Paul wrote the first letter to the Thessalonians based on Timothy's good report. ( Acts 18:5) Paul then wrote the second letter to the Thessalonians after the courier that took the first letter returned and reported to Paul the new problems in Thessalonica.

IV. THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF THESSALONICA:

Thessalonica was 50 miles west of Philippi and 100 miles north of Athens. It was the chief city of Macedonia and was a Roman Colony. The population of Thessalonica in Paul's day was 200,000 people. The city was first named Therma because of the hot springs in the area. In 316 B.C. Cassander made Therma his home base. He renamed the city Thessalonike in memory of his wife. Today it is called Salonika.

V. DATE OF THE LETTER:

Galatians was Paul's first letter written around 49-50 A.D. I Thessalonians was Paul's second letter written around 51 A.D. from Corinth. II Thessalonians was Paul's third letter written around 51-52 A.D. from Corinth. The date is certain because of historical writings found in archaeological discoveries that state that Gallio served as deputy of Achaia between 51-52 A.D.

( Acts 18:12-17).

VI. THE DOCTRINAL THEMES OF I & II THESSALONIANS:

I Thessalonians is the Instruction of Paul on the Rapture of the Church

II Thessalonians is the Instruction of Paul on the Second Coming of Christ

VII. SECTION OUTLINE OF THE BOOK OF II THESSALONIANS:

Chapter 1: The Introduction: Comfort to the Thessalonians

Chapter 2: The Instruction: Concerning the Day of the Lord. That is the biblical term for the tribulation period, right before the second coming of Christ.

We have been in conversation recently that Jesus is the Promise given by God from the beginning. Having been washed by regeneration and renewed by the Holy Spirit we believe by continuing faith that we remain in His grace and will finish the race and live in eternity in Heaven with Jesus at the right hand of the Father and with all finishers of the faith in Him. We are warned not to stray into willing sin as Jesus died once for our sin. We are adopted into His righteousness and peace by His blood once spilled. Though we remain alive in the flesh, we must eat of His flesh for our sustenance. He is our nourishment and the Holy Spirit is our guide while we remain in the flesh. This flesh is still of Adam's flesh and it remains against us, but Jesus wants us like he himself in His Father and many before us to abide in Him and He in us regardless and by grace while we finish the course. This grace and peace is our assurance to continue on, no matter what befalls us until the last day. Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith.

INTRODUCTION TO 2 THESSALONIANS (Part 1):

We find in 2 Thessalonians that Paul's going to say that if anybody comes to you, whether it's through a spirit, making reference to somebody giving "personal revelation," by a spirit! Or whether it's through a letter, and 2 Thessalonians was written because a false letter was being circulated by false teachers that had Paul's name on it.

So, he says even if it's through a letter, or through a spirit, and it counters and contradicts what we're saying, it's false! Of course, how would the Christians in Thessalonica know that some of the things went against what Paul taught? And that's why he hurried and turned around and wrote a second letter to the Christians in Thessalonica.

I. ABOUT THE AUTHOR:

Paul and his companions Silvanus and Timothy ( II Thessalonians 1:1; 3:17). Paul's inscription is on all thirteen of his letters.

II. TO WHOM IT WAS WRITTEN:

To the believers in Thessalonica who were made up of mostly Gentiles, but some Jews believed also (Acts17:4).

III. THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH IN THESSALONICA:

Paul evangelized the area of Philippi, Thessalonica, and Berea during his Second Missionary journey along with Silvanus and Timothy ( Acts 17:1-9).

Paul ministered in Thessalonica for at least three weeks ( Acts 17:2).

Unbelieving Jews stirred up the unbelieving Gentiles against Paul ( Acts 17:5-9).

Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy left Thessalonica and went on to Berea ( Acts 17:10).

Hostile Thessalonian Jews followed Paul to Berea and stirred up the people against Paul ( Acts 17:13).

Paul left Silvanus and Timothy in Berea while he went on to Athens ( Acts 17:14).

Paul sent for Silvanus and Timothy to join him in Athens ( Acts 17:15).

From Athens, Paul sent Timothy back to Thessalonica to check on the welfare of the believers there ( I Thessalonians 3:1-2).

Paul also sent Silvanus back to Philippi while he went on to Corinth ( Acts 18:1).

Silvanus and Timothy rejoin Paul in Corinth ( Acts 18:5).

Hello Bro Dan,

I agree with Jema that we are not saved because we keep the commandments and live in obedience to God. Our works can never remit sin or pay the immense penalty for how we have rebelled and pursued our own will in life. Only the shed blood of Jesus can do that.

And in another sense, it is valid to say that we are bund by the Spirit of grace to walk in obedience since this is how we abide in Christ. One who lives an antinomian life that goes right ahead and sins at will is not abiding in Christ and needs to turn themselves around from the heart in repentance and seek to do what the Spirit desires (which is always what is lawful, right, and good). Our obedience does not bring us into right relationship with God, but our disobedience brings us away from this fellowship of abiding in Him.

INTRODUCTION TO 1 THESSALONIANS (Part 2):

IV. THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF THESSALONICA:

Thessalonica was 50 miles west of Philippi and 100 miles north of Athens. Thessalonica was the chief city of Macedonia and a Roman Colony. The population in Paul's day was 200,000 people. The city was first named Therma because of the hot springs in the area.

In 316 B.C., Cassander, one of the Generals of Alexander the Great, when he did pass away, his kingdom was divided up amongst his commanders. Cassander made Therma his home base. He renamed the city Thessalonike in memory of his wife. Today it is called Salonika.

V. DATE OF THE LETTER:

Galatians was Paul's first letter written around 49-50 A.D. I Thessalonians was Paul's second canonical letter written around 51 A.D. from Corinth. The date is certain because of historical writings found in archaeological discoveries that state that Gallio served as deputy of Achaia between 51-52 A.D. ( Acts 18:12-17).

VI. THE THEMES OF I THESSALONIANS:

There are two themes that are found in Thessalonians. This is what is call an eschatological letter. ESKATOS means last days.

We study the rapture of the church in 1 Thessalonians, and the second coming of Christ in 2 Thessalonians. He's dealing with last days issues.

VII. SECTION OUTLINE OF THE BOOK OF I THESSALONIANS:

CHAPTERS 1-3 - The Inspiration of the Church in Thessalonica. Paul uses them as an example to all the other churches on how to follow Christ. Other churches were inspired by the way they were obedient to Christ.

Chapter 1: The Testimony of the Thessalonians.

Chapter 2: The Testimony of Paul.

Chapter 3: The Testimony of Timothy, what he told Paul when he came back about the condition of the church there.

CHAPTERS 4-5 - The Instruction of Paul on the Rapture of the Church.

Chapter 4: The Testimony Concerning the Lord's Return, and that's coming from the Lord Himself.

Chapter 5: The Testimony Concerning Believers, how believers are to live in the last days.

INTRODUCTION TO 1 THESSALONIANS (Part 1):

I. ABOUT THE AUTHOR:

Paul and his companions Silvanus and Timothy ( I Thessalonians 1:1; 2:18). Again, Paul's inscription is on all thirteen of his letters. He personally wrote 1 Thessalonians, but he has Silvanus (and we see that he's the same as Silas in the scriptures), and then Timothy. They traveled with him during his 2nd missionary trip. And so, they are with Paul in Corinth when he is writing this letter back to the Christians in Thessalonica.

II. TO WHOM IT WAS WRITTEN:

To the believers in Thessalonica who were made up of mostly Gentiles, but some Jews believed also. Acts 17:4 tells us about Paul's ministry there in Thessalonica.

III. THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH IN THESSALONICA:

Paul evangelized the area of Philippi, Thessalonica, and Berea during his Second Missionary journey, along with Silvanus and Timothy. That's recorded in Acts 17:1-9.

Paul ministered in Thessalonica for at least three weeks ( Acts 17:2).

Unbelieving Jews stirred up the unbelieving Gentiles against Paul ( Acts 17:5-9).

Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy left Thessalonica and went on to Berea ( Acts 17:10).

Hostile Thessalonian Jews followed Paul to Berea and stirred up the people against Paul ( Acts 17:13).

Paul left Silvanus and Timothy in Berea while he went on to Athens ( Acts 17:14).

Paul sent for Silvanus and Timothy to join him in Athens ( Acts 17:15).

From Athens, Paul sent Timothy back to Thessalonica to check on the welfare of the believers there ( I Thessalonians 3:1-2).

Paul also sent Silvanus back to Philippi while he went on to Corinth ( Acts 18:1).

Silvanus and Timothy rejoin Paul in Corinth ( Acts 18:5).

After Silvanus and Timothy returned, Paul wrote the first letter to the Thessalonians based on Timothy's good report ( Acts 18:5).

In Truth, the day you are completely free from sin, is the day you meet your Savior ! 1 Pet 1:7-9

I can't tell you how Dan would answer that question,

but here's mine

It's not a work of our self-efforts in our own strengths or our own understanding, it following the Light of Christ in our hearts, the still small Voice of Conscience that convicts us of our wrong doings & directs us to do what is just, good & holy, Titus 2:11

Micah 6:8 , its the Treasure we have in these earthen vessels, enlightening us in the power of Holy Spirit, picking up the Cross & denying self, & causing us to will & do of His good pleasure, which works were finishes from the foundation of the world, Hebrews 4:3 Acts 15:18 We enter into His works, coming to a place of rest from our own works

Then there some that are persuaded they don't have to do anything, but believe, without becoming a doer of the Word, thats more like being a demon, for they believes, but they do not obey.

Consider all that Scriptures, beginning with Abraham, Gen 18:19 by his obedience Abraham proved his faith & his love for God

John 15:10 he abided in God's love & received all that God had promise him, through his obedience to God's commands.

Today's Christianity says you can be a Christian without keeping His commandments, God loves you & His grace got you covered. This is a changing of the definition of Grace, which is defined in Scripture as Titus 2:12 Grace is the power of God to reveal our sins & to takes us out of them, not to encourage or pamper us in our sins.



Friends, God salvation is a free gift, but faith without works is dead. James 2:17-26 this is clearly seen & understood in the whole of Scriptures. Jesus Himself learn obedience by the things that He suffer, & became perfect, perfected our salvation, all for our sakes, that we may follow Him. John 14:31

in love & truth

Hey Duncan,

Thank you for replying.

You said the soul is

"I want, I need, I shall, things are things that one does for his own satisfaction ".

Would not that also include, I love you, I will help you, you are my friend? Can not good things can come from the soul, too?

Gasman

Jema,

Those are some good and valid points. I was wondering the same thing and look forward to seeing the response.

Personally, the day that I can say that I am completely free from sin is the day that I can say I no longer need a Savior!

Blessings to you!

Hi, I was just about to switch off the laptop, decided to glance at the email and there was your message! Not significant, ordinarily, but since I awoke this morning I've been in a deeply heated internal debate, praying furiously, pleading that the Holy Spirit at least just give me a nudge, a hint, anything, as to which direction I should take, which path to follow. The more I look into the Roman church the more I find serious issues. I could go on here at length but the character count would soon expire! The Pope, the head of all of it, is just so wrong, so unholy and so corrupt. How can I be a part of something whose figurehead takes audience with a crucifix-in-urine-dunking artist, whose second in command writes porn books. The church itself at ground level has very little 'community' - I'm disabled and by the time I have, with my stick, 'walked' up to the back of the church at the end, the lights are being turned off, and there's nobody there to say goodbye to; a lonely experience. Your message has been the clincher (is that a word?). I've decided that tomorrow I'll attend the only other viable option (the C of E has gone woke, so count them out) and that is the local Independent Methodist Church. I've no idea what to expect, but I did contact them recently and they said I'd be made most welcome. A new start! They did tell me that their statement on topical issues and scriptural policy fully endorses 1 Corinthian 6:9, which I'm happy about (I won't go woke, ever); God's Word IS God's Word, after all. So, thank you for your Spirit-filled and Spirit-timely input. Shaun

Hi Jema,

Thanks for your response and question.

Jesus asks us to take a hold of his outstretched hand and pick up our crosses and follow Him. Does that take effort on our part? When you get up in the morning to read your bible, does that take effort on your part? Does it take effort on our part to pray, to ask for forgiveness, to repent? Does it take effort to give up our worldly luxuries, material things. I think we can agree the answer to all these questions would be Yes.

We are are supposed to be walking with Jesus/God toward our salvation in heaven. 'It is a relationship". He is NOT giving us a "free ticket" like many christians have been deceived by satan to believe. He wants us to work toward becoming Godly, and in doing so we will getting prepared and ready to live in His Kingdom. If we continue to live sinful worldly lives we are not following Christs examples that he gives to us so vividly throughout the scriptures and we will not receive salvation! Hebrews 10:26

Yes, it takes effort on our part. Jesus tells the adulterous to stop sinning, John 8:11. Jesus tells the invalid that he healed to stop sinning or something worse will happen to him John 5:14

Jesus expects the adulteress, the invalid, and all of us that want to inherit the Kingdom to stop sinning. Does this take an effort on our part? Yes. Jesus knows this takes effort for us. Jesus tells us we need to become humble, obedient, and teachable by following God's Commandments and by striving each day to become "sin free". Jesus promises us that he will give us The Comforter-His Holy Spirit to enable us to actually overcome sin and not only sin - but this entire World! John 14:17

I will close with a couple of great verses.

1 John 5:3 "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."

1 John 5:4 "For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith."

GBU

Hi Bro Dan , so , can I please ask you a question ? You said : eventually overcoming sin and winning the ultimate prize , salvation . Based on this statement , are you saying that salvation is won by us ? by our efforts ? If the answer to that is yes , then where does Christ's sacrifice come in ? If we can attain salvation by our own efforts , what do we need Christ for ? Please don't be offended , this is a genuine question and I would appreciate your answer so I can understand what you are saying :) .

Hello Frankie,

I hear you, and thanks for continuing to share your testimony here with everyone.

There is nothing in this world, that can compare to being brought into submission in order to obey God and recieve His Love and His Holy Spirit! To fear God is to begin knowing Him, and when we really know Him it is a rude awaking.

We don't even begin this journey until we humble ourselves before Him and recieve His Holy Spirit. He spells this out to us throughout the scriptures. We recieve NOT until we believe, accept, and live our lives according to "all of the scripture".

Here is an example of how God tells us point blank - how we can recieve His Holy Spirit if we keep His Commandments:

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

John 14:16

"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;"

John 14:17

"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."

We begin the long hard journey through this life by humbling ourselves before God, embracing God's Commandments, and listening to His holy Spirit guide us (the small still voice) even though we will have to suffer for Him.

GBU

Summary of 1 Corintians 14.

Paul suggests that we all have spiritual gifts and serve with them the congregation and God.

The best gift is prophesying. Prophesy is a direct message from God to the church for the "edification, and exhortation, and comfort" of the church. It can be also about future events that are of the interest of the believers as we see in Acts 21:10-11. Prophets can be either men or women as seen in Acts 21:8-9. But women can not be pastors as seen in 1 Cor 14:34-35.

Paul suggests that we all speak in unknown tongues (v5) but preferably prophesying. Because the gift of prophesying is above tongues. Tongues are useful to a believer for their own edification because when speaking in tongues they are filled with God's Spirit which produces His fruit in them. But the rest do not understand what is said, so there is no benefit for the congregation unless there is an interpreter.

Prophesy is for the edification of the whole congregation. So when the church is gathered together to pray to God, and believers are filled with God's Spirit and start speaking in tongues and there isn't an inetrpreter they should keep silent and pray with their spirit. Prophets may say what God puts in their mouth in a proper order, one after the other. Others must judge whether a prophesy is real or not. Everything in the church should serve for the edification of of tbe whole body.

God Bless You All.

The soul is found in the blood and the soul is that thing that maketh a man to say

I want I need I shall, things are things that one does for his own satisfaction, but GOD the HOLY SPIRIT He will point you back to the cross and the word of God and He will ask you this

What you're doing does it glorify the father?,

Repent of your sins.

acts 20;21

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Hi,

The blood of Jesus Christ the son of the living God gives life to a dead man and provides atonement for one sins

As it is written

( Ephesians 1:7, ESV)

In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,

And it's by grace and faith alone that we are saved and none of of our works

Amen

Repent of your sins.

acts 20;21

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

There is a great Divide in the Christian world today!

The Many. There are those Christians who believe they can never stop sinning, and even so, believe they will attain salvation/heaven. They reinforce this sin message between themselves, all the while continuing to live worldly lives, and assuring themselves that sin will be all around them engulfing them for the rest of their lives.

1 John 1:6 "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:"

1 John 2:15 "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."

James 4:8 "Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded."

The Few. Then there are VERY FEW Christians who believe they can actually stop sinning with the help of God's Holy Spirit, and they strive to do so everyday, as the scriptures command, eventually overcoming sin, and winning the ultimate prize Salvation!

1 John 3:6 "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him."

1 John 3:9 "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

Now when we compare the above (2) Christain mindsets - we can now put this verse below into the proper perspective:

Matthew 7:14 "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

A good question to ask ourselves EVERYDAY - Do we want to be counted in the Many, or the Few?

GBU

hello Dan

I pray people would truly weigh in on what is reveal by Holy Spirit in this article. It's so plainly written in Scriptural language, with sound reasoning, & the Witness bearing witness inside our hearts to the truth of this matter.

I believe they're many on this site that are sincere & truthful in their endeavors to know, love & serve the Lord in Spirit & in Truth. Yet are deceived by this false gospel being preached in so call Christianity today, as I myself once was for 27 years, in which I have serve in every position in the church from a maintenance man to a deacon. Searching, fasting & studying the Scriptures as I see many doing on this site, meaning through the art of natural science, book knowledge. A veil always stood between me & my Beloved, the intimacy & oneness that the Scriptures plainly state we can have with Him.

The knowledge I acquired could never set me free from my sins & I couldn't understand why? I felt that I was the most miserable sinner there was. Still I press on, not knowing there was something better, sure & solid.

Until God in His sovereign mercy in Jan 2020 while attending Ministry School, led me to quit the school & set my heart to seeking Him, leading me to the teaching of these Quakers of the 17th Century, in which I never read or heard the likes of before, that we can be actually set free from all sin, in reality & be conformed into the image of His Son in Spirit & in Truth.

In truth, it not me off my feet, turn my world upside down, yet God held me & did not forsake me Isa 42:16 for I then found out by experience how so rebellious in nature it was, it truly as it has be said, "I who was once His enemy in His own house, He was well able to changed & make me His friend.

Friends, this is Truth, & He did it all by His Spirit shining in the inward parts, making me to Know His Wisdom

Job 28:28 Titus 2:11

In love & truth

P5

1 Corinthians 15:47 "The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven."

John 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."

P4

" Hebrews 1:6 "And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."

Psalms 97:1 "O sing unto the Lord a new song: sing unto the Lord, all the earth."

Psalms 97:13 "Before the LORD: for he commeth, for he commeth to judge the earth: he shall judge the world with righteousness, and the people with his truth."

Ephesians 1:20 "Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,"

Philippians 2:10 "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;"

Philippians 2:11 "And that every tounge should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

Hebrews 2:17 "Wherefore in all things it beloved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people."

Deuteronomy 18:5 "For the LORD thy God hath chosen him out of all thy tribes, to stand to minister in the name of the LORD, him and his sons for ever."

Hebrews 5:2 "Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity."

2 Corinthians 5:21 "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who know no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in him."

1 Peter 2:22 "Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth."

John 3:31- 32 "He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthy, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all." And what he has seen and heard, that he testifiieth; and no man receiveth his testimony."

John 3:33 "He that hath received his testimony hath set o his seal that God is true."

P5 with a couple more scriptures to follow

P3

Colossians 2:4 "And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words."

1 John 2:1 "My little children these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sins we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

Ephesians 2:3 "But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ."

Exodus 25:13

Hebrews 9:5 "And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercy seat; of which we cannot now speak particularly."

John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep."

1 Peter 2:25 "For ye were as sheep gone astray; but now are returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls."

Isaiah 42:1 "Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring judgement to the Gentiles."

John 8:28- 29 "Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak those things. And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always these things that please him."

1 Timothy 2:8 "I will therefore that men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting."

Romans 9:5 "Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."

Psalms 45:7 "Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, Thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."

John 17:1 "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through Thine own name those whom thou has given me, that they may be one, as we are."

P4 follows

Thank you for sharing this information RLW , I was aware of it but was nervous about putting it out there . There are one or two other anomalies that I'm nervous about sharing also :) . Sometimes it takes great courage to share things that we know are very serious and important and that might literally alter the way people think and what they believe , messengers are not always appreciated :) . Then of course the messenger can be accused of bringing the Bible into disrepute when of course it is those in charge of the translating and publishing that will be held accountable . I had Bibles many years ago KJV's , that said things in the margins like ' not original' , wish I had kept them ! Some I'm sure , will choose to ignore your info but as I said , I'm sure the translaters and publishers will bear the deserved punishment . May God bless you and keep you with us .