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His spirit in us gives us peace that passes all understanding so we are not asshamed to seek to receive more of Him or sharing His true word.! So Never be scared to share scripture in fear of sounding smart. We are to guide ppl to trust in His word not our understanding.
With brotherly live..Ok, lets get real-I exsperienced standing in a garage & I'm still not a car.! Even if ppl understand our ways, they may choose to believe otherwise. Freewill is a gift we all share. Cuz w/out Gods prospective hand, evil creeps in & we grow up the wrong vine & begin twisting His words causing one to stumble.
If I were ever to cause someone to stray from Christ, I would pray to be more humbling so I don't open my mouth w/out my heart & I'd think twice so as not to loose my way missing the narrow road. Like, I recently learned I have the gift of prophetic dreams tho some think its of satan so I only share when a life is in danger. Not even then if Im not sure who it was to be shared with so as not to boast. For everyone sees Him w/Their own heart. The heart He gave us that grows in His time & for His purpose. Not relying on our own understanding cuz yur own flesh can & will deceive you.!
When God allows you the ability to listen w/your heart you'll know what I mean. Till then, all the tongues in the world fall on deaf ears. We are merely to love God w/all our being & love and pray for others especially our enemy. Yet facts are facts & those are what to concern oneself with. Christ DBR should be our main focus so when He IS truly w/us, (not just a dream or exsperience making us proud yet Him making is wise), we'll know then how to truly guide others. God bless 'Texsis'.
Please go back and read my original reply to Jema. In it I said that he received these revelations straight from
Christ when he was 3 years in the desert. This agrees with what you said in this reply.
I said that Paul was intellectually gifted. You said he was brilliant. We agree on this.
The difference here is that I believe that God used the natural talents He had created in Paul in His ministry once he was converted.
You say that God used none of these natural talents after conversion.
So, we disagree on this matter. That's o.k.
The rest of what you posted about me was unnecessary and demeaning of my character. You do not know my mind or heart when I was replying to you. Only God does. I submit to the Holy Spirit as you do. So, I take offense at you presuming to know my mind and heart and for slandering me on this forum.
But I do forgive you and love you in Christ. We both know that love covers a multitude of sins. 1 Peter 4:8
Let's move on from this thread. It would be best to do so.
Where we had differences is when you said you disagree with me and said, Paul was a very intelligent man prior to his conversion with many skills and abilities THAT GOD USED AFTER HIS CONVERSION.
We both agree he was an intelligent man.
But my original answer to Gema Question "where did Paul get this specific information from at that time ? I guess Paul was wise for his time.
My answer was he Got it from Christ, But would only understand the things of God by the Holyspirit.
His Wordly wisdom that he possessed knew not the things of God.
God set aside his intellect and spoke plainly so it wouldn't affect the work of God.
Paul said let him that Glory Glory in the Lord.
"The minute we put our eyes on the minister we take our eyes off the Lord.
This is a big deal in the Church today.
God bless.
We make up ONE body, and correction is supposed to be for help. God administered "the gift" to the Church.
We had nothing to bring to it!
We need to understand what Lord means to us.
What is he Lord over? Our lives, We live for him as he lives IN US.
And how do he Lord over our lives?
By his Spirit!
We're not ready for ministry until we receive Jesus.
God stands outside of time and he knows who will come to him.
God's preparation for that person may start early.
But once that preparation is displayed where the rubber meets the road, It will glorify God, Not that Person/Vessel.
By the way;
I made a few mistakes in my last post!
Where I said "I consider myself to be a very smart man but that didn't but sickness did.
Somehow I left out a word or two and never proof read this and went right on to bed.
I meant to say, I consider myself to be a very smart man but that didn't cause any Spitual growth in my life.
but sickness did.
When I got sick I got serious and Christ strengthened me!
When I was made weak, I became strong! It's a testimony hard to believe but I believe it was just for me and me only. Not one to share.
When I retired my two small businesses, I began to grow spiritually and like most of us, I have a long way to go.
Before then I got in the way of myself.
We start out as empty vessels!
We need the filling of the Holyspirit and The word of God every step of the way.
When one emphasize in their doctrine there is no need for the Holyspirit as if they have already been supernaturally gifted with worldly wisdom, they're actually saying there is no need for God!!
And next you will see glory seeking and pride in their walk.
We're sowing to the flesh!
our ability to do good in our own power with our bodies, is poisoned with sin. It can't grow the good crop of righteousness and eternal life.
We've all been guilty of this I sure.
It's a life time struggle to get rid of pride.
This is a very important topic.
Back to work.
GB
The simplicity in Christ Jesus
Gods free gift & get in the book of life!
Romans 3:24-26 & follow Apostle Paul
Period
Revelation 20:11-11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Period
I experienced the Holy Spirt immediately present in me.
I didn't find it in Romans 10:9 bc later found that that was for the Jews back in the transitional period where Apostle Paul is beseeching his brethren!
I didn't find it in 1 Corinthians 15 either bc later found out that was a gospel of Reproof!
But the Holy Spirit entered in after reading Through Romans & at Romans 3:24/25/26 Gods free gift to all AMEN!
Many seriously believe that they are saved but it's all like Pinterest fluffiness.
SO You need to protect your souls I seriously ask you to join the Firstborn school & fellowship absolutely FREE, to escape what is ahead! 2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
The mark of the beast will devour many!
And I can say I will meet those who take eternity seriously find out how to get in the book of life!
Revelation 20:11-11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Oh, thanks for the info..I was not implying that you drink alcohol. I was meaning that sometimes our minds get clouded with the circumstances of the present that we need to have it cleared up to make a reasonable and thoghtful (soberminded) decision.
I will continue to pray for you. I appreciate the new info you have given me. Thanks. I know better how to pray for you. Hope you have a good day.
Utah was great.! Ppl aren't as nice & polite as ppl in Texas but it's tolerable if they don't know yur from the 'other side' of the white gate.! I worked for the County & the City plus, already have confirmation to return once Im in town. An extra plus is, I won't get a single Mosquitos bite. I don't drink so I am sober minded just need to wait on Gods confirmation & definitly leave on a good note not in haste.
I so appreciate you GiGi, truly & the prayer was beautiful. Its after 6a, I need a few hrs sleep. Blessing coming yur way. Ooops, almost signed w/my real name..lol.. gnyt...good morning. :)
I feel closer to you & ppl on here then most of my own family. Tho my fault for slidding back & my attitude on life. But No more. I will NEVER turn me from Jesus again. Nor will I take a V muchless the mark of the beast, God forbid I'm left behind come rapture.
Till then I will only do what Gods wants of me in all I do (including moving) till He says 'Run' Then (if its not West) it will be straight to the front of gavels line, come time.! With a huge smile on my face :) My kids think I'm crazy cuz I'm not scared of anyone/thing. I pray for the day they too have Gods peace that passes understanding even tho Im still learning His word. Not a perfect soul on earth yet He loves us all. Merely waiting for unbelivers to believe & receive Him.!
How truly awesome is He?? Took me yrs to realize "All I had to do was 'let go & let God" because not paying attention to the footprints on my path, it took me longer.! All is in His time for His glory.! Thnx for the ear GiGi & being a friend.! God bless 'Texsis'.
Jesus said" Behold I make all things new".
Again He says "Old things are passed away and all things are new"!
Thinking on these things, the believer will look back if for a moment, while living in the moment.
This life tho constantly changing, the heart of the disciple is focused on the things that do not change.
The love of Christ and His words.
"Tho heaven and earth pass away ,my word shall remain forever!"
So, yes we can.
We dye daily unto Him, who's promise will not fail, even unto eternal life!
Tho we are dying everyday, the life of a Christian is renewed day by day!
The revelation that Christ word is alive and renewing us everyday, is the revelation of the power of God, who is always working in and through us! Thanks be to God!
Repent and be Baptized
What exactly is Jesus saying? Luke 12; 51 Jesus said He came to cause division!
If we live according to the Spirit of God ,it is no longer us but Him that is in us. Also, that offences will come,that we who stand for the truth shall be brought before those who deny Him. Remember what He said, when that day comes, worry not about what to say , that the Holy Spirit will give you the words!
Are we entering into the tribulation? I think not, for we have not resisted unto the shedding of blood!
Never before, even so now, we should be in the paraclete, the comforter. What did Jesus say over and over again? Fear not, for I am with you until the end of time!
The media is satan's tool, otherwise He has no power other than that given to Him by God! We are ambassadors for Christ, and should remember we have power in and through His promises! Repent and be Baptized
And the desire of my heart is to glorify God in my life.
I am going to overlook most of what you posted her concerning me.
But I do want to point out that you here admit that you think Paul was a brilliant man. That is what I said in my original response to the lead of this thread. And when I said it, you began debating me. We both agree that our own abilities mean nothing if not brought under the authority and work of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, I conclude that this whole debate is needless. You did not need to go down this road with me. I don't know why you did. But as it is, I am done with this discussion with you. I will consider what you have said of me. I am certainly open for criticism, but I was not in any way was speaking from a carnal position nor praising man rather than God.
By the Spirit of truth that worked in him mighty.
Colossians 1:25-29.
Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.
God bless you and Good night.
I remember having this debate in the past.
You are twisting my words here.
And changing the narrative.
I didn't say Paul became intellectual when he received the Holyspirit.
I believe Paul was a brilliant man before he became a Christian.
I'm saying everything counted as worthy to him before, he now counts it as dung.
That's what he said!
And he didn't figure anything out of the things of God by his worldly, wisdom.
In fact his worldly wisdom thought that the preaching of the cross was foolishness to the point where he persecuted Christians.
This is why we glorify God because he can take murderers like Paul and King David and regenerate them to be a soldier for him.
I consider myself to be a very smart man but that didn't but sickness did.
When I was made weak, I became strong!
Before then I got in the way of myself.
That goes for all of us!
You have nothing to offer God but sacrifice.
You can be brilliant he can use you.
But he don't have to make you brilliant to do so.
God can get more Glory out of a rock than he can a rocket scientist.
God did not prepare Saul with the wisdom of the world that knew not God!!
Dear Gigi You are praising the vessel. This is a very carnal approach to scripture.
This type of thinking, to glorify Man of any sort is not of the Spirit.
It's a proud look.
Some things in scripture is written plainly.
I'm Sorry but I only can be truthful to you. I'm not partial or Passive but this is a reflection of most your discussions.
You have a exterior understanding but no debt.
I am not trying to insult you but you need to ask God to move you out of the way of yourself!
As Christians we can't claim we love one another and be Passive and partial.
And let's not lie to one another when we know constructive criticism may serve them well.
God bless you Gigi.
"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." Genesis 3:15 KJV
The LORD God spoke this to the serpent with Adam and Eve able to hear and believe before they were removed from the Garden.
It sound like you are in the midst of a change in your life and need direction from the Lord in choosing the best thing. I can pray for you again right now.
Dear Heavenly Father, we always come to You in prayer int he name of Jesus, because He told us to do so and said You will answer! Texsis and I are asking that You guide her in this possible move. Raise up her spirits to be feeling more gladdened on heart. It probably best for us to not make important decisions when we are feeling down, so Texsis does need you to work in her right now to be uplifted and sober minded concerning this possibility. We know that You are with us always wherever we may be living or wherever we go. So, asking that You give Texsis clear direction here. She is concerned about the temptation to return to her former life she lived while in Utah. Keep her from ever going back to that way of living, Father. Strengthen her to repel all temptations towards falling into a sin-filled lifestyle. Sanctify her today and empower her to resist whet ever tempted her before. We know how much You love us and desire for us to be holy and godly in our life. So, guide Texsis to the situation that will be most helpful to her to live this way for You. Amen.
As one reads the epistles of Paul it is very apparent that he is one God had gifted in communicating in speech and writing. He did not all of a sudden become literate and effective in these things upon conversion. He says elsewhere where he was trained by Gamaliel, so he could read and write easily.
Steven, my concern here is that you seem to be are denigrating the value of being intelligent in your replies to me. I do agree that we cannot be puffed up in our own knowledge or prideful of our talents. I was not doing that as you imply. On the flip side, we cannot be anti-intellectual in our approach to spiritual things either. Both intellectualism and anti-intellectualism are detrimental to any believer. We are to be balanced in this area and humble enough to know that we need to abide by the counsel of the Holy Spirit in all matters in our lives. But we are not to speak badly about talents God has given us. They are gifts and blessings and we should view them as such, knowing that these, along with all aspects of our persons and abilities are to be submitted to the workings of the Holy Spirit.
I don't think we really have anything to continue discussing here. I stand by what I have written and it is fine if you stand by what you have written. I think the issue is in how you interpret what I have written due to your predisposition about the topic of intellectual gifts. You see them as a negative. I see them as a positive as long as one uses them in obedience to God's will and direction.
We can leave this be for now.
Don't be scared to seek to receive more of Him.