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Hi Jema

See, our Lord JESUS said Judas Iscariots was a devil. John 6:70-71 : -->70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

About Peter is different, first he was not a devil, but a true disciple of the LORD. What really happen? JESUS had just said to the disciples and reveals how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. The sound that comes out of Pedro's mouth contradict LITERALLY what JESUS had just said: Matthew 16:22 - Then Peter took JESUS, and began to REBUKE Him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. In that moment Peter spoke by the spirit of a mere or common man made of the dust, as it happened in Genesis 3:1, the spirit of Christ was replaced by the spirit of man born of Devil, bnorn of sin. It's terrible. The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of GOD, it's is danger, very danger, to speak of the Word of GOD-the Word is GOD - by the spirit of man, and not by the Holy Spirit. It is very danger to peach the Word of GOD by the letter, the Holy Spirit doesn't do this because the letter kills, kills the souls.

GOD BLESS

Will Believers be tested?

( 1 Thess. 3:3-4) The word (afflictions) in v3, and the word (tribulation) in v4 both have the same meaning in the Greek language #2347; they mean pressure, afflicted (-tion) anguish, burdened, persecution, trouble. v3 says "That no man should be moved by these (afflictions): for yourselves know that ((we are appointed thereunto))". This verse tells us that we are to see afflictions which means pressure, anguish, burdened, persecution, trouble, which also is the same meaning as the word (tribulation). v4 tells us "we should suffer tribulation"

( Acts. 14:22) "Confirming the souls of the (disciples) and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much (tribulation) enter into the kingdom of God". We must go through much tribulation, which means pressure, afflicted, anguish, burdened, persecution, trouble.

( 1 Peter. 1:7) "That the (trial) of your faith being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be (tried) with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ".

The word (trial) is #1383; it means a testing, trustworthiness, trying, test.

The word (tried) is #1381; it means to test, by implying to approve, examine, try.

This verse tells us that Believers faith will be tested, could a testing of your faith be through pressure, affliction, anguish, burdened, persecution, trouble?

( 1 Peter. 4:12-13) v12 "Beloved, think it not strange concerning the (fiery trial) which is to (try) you, as though some strange thing happened unto you.

The words (fiery trial) is #4451; it means calamity, as a test.

The word (try) is #974; it means to test, to investigate, examine, try, trial.

( Ps. 11:4-5) "The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids (try) the children of men.

The word (try) is #974; it means to test, to investigate, examine, try, trial.

Yes Believers will be tested in tribulation, It is written.

Truth matters.

God will forgive anyone, I think that should be our mindset. Those who don't care or won't repent, then they don't deserve forgiveness.

You're welcome

I don't think so, there's no reason to look into it if the Bible doesn't say it. The Bible clearly says Satan entered Judas, but never says anything about him entering any of the sons of God. I also believe that the sons of God were saved, but I'm unsure if they could be possessed because of the Holy Spirit not being in people in the OT. From what I understand though is that you have to in some way invite a demon in through your way of living or actually saying it. At least what I've read from spiritual warfare books and learned at college. The Sons of God coming to worship would not have let a demon into them.

Do you think it's possible , that in Job , when the sons of God went to the temple to worship God , as they are believers in God , could it be that satan entered one of them ( in the same way he did with Judas and even briefly Peter ) who then pronounced curses on Job because he was jealous of Job ? Jealous of him because he was devout and well blessed by God ? Envy is a terrible sin and it could be that a person , who was envious of Job to such an extent , that it gave occasion for that person to curse Job and all that he had ? God then took away all the things from Job that that person envied about him , his family his wealth and finally his good health but , no amount of suffering and despair on Job's part could cause Job to curse God and sin . So in effect Job proved to that person , who ever it was , that nothing mattered to Job more than his faith in God did , his faith in God which could not be shaken no matter how dire his circumstances . Job lost everything that we humans value highly but nothing could make him loose his faith in God . Whoever Job's ' adversary ' was , he didn't get the better of Job . I hope I have explained my thoughts clearly there .

oops, I meant Hosea 11:9

Hello 08770641,

Hosea 11:18 says: "I am God not a man"

God is eternally unchanging, so He was never a man that became a god.

Hello Texsis, If your dream is about something that is to happen, and then this dream proves to be true by the very thing happening, then it is a prophetic dream. I have not ever had such a dream. But the Holy Spirit can work anyway He chooses to work. We can't put a limit on what He may do in and for us.

We are doing well. Hubby has been retired for a month and enjoying it. Last week he was riding his motorcycle in Oregon (we live in Washington State) and took a back road to Mt. Hood HWY. A deer came out in front of him and he collided with it. He was able to stay upright and not lose control but his motorcycle is most likely totaled. Told him he was being watched over! If he had hit the deer mid body, he most likely would have been catapulted over the handle bars. So very thankful he is o.k. I told him that this was God telling him that he should not ride on remote roads without me tailing him in my Prius. That area had no cell service, houses, etc. So, wake up call for sure. We do tandem riding for long trips, but now we will need to do so for day trips, too. I don't mind driving behind since I will not ride on the motorcycle with him. So, we need to add this safety measure to this hobby!

He's looking for another motorcycle to replace this one. But he'll not be able to get one until end of summer or so. Bummer for him, but just a slight "bump in the road", so to speak.

Wow ! Thank you for that great answer .

Hello Frankie J.

I was just thinking about this verse when I read David's post. We are still in the last days, as Peter called it in Acts, so the Spirit is still working in ways that Joel prophesied and Peter confirmed that it was being fulfilled in his day, which was the beginning years of the last days. The last days have lasted 2000 years so far. The last days will end with the return of Our Lord, Jesus Christ.

I don't think that we can dictate to God what He can and cannot do in these days. But, then again, I think we should be wise in determining if such a vision, dream, or prophecy is truly from the Lord or not, either for ourselves or when another believer reveals that they have had such an experience. These visions, dreams, and prophecies cannot add to Scripture, I believe, because it was completed in the time of the apostles, but they also must align with Scripture in every way. Just as the Holy Spirit guides us in various ways, He also is able to work miraculously, bring answers to prayer, heal someone, and prevent people from going a certain place (like Paul) or open ways for one to go to a certain place. The Holy Spirit can work in infinite ways in us. We need to be open to His work in our lives and those of others. We should ask in prayer for discernment in such matters.

If you ask me, all rapists especially child molesters should be fully castrated. Or, at the very least have their hands cut off so they can't rape anyone else.

Hi David0921

Acts 2:17,18

Selah

In love & truth

Didn't realize it was called prophetic. My sister thinks dreams are of satan. So thought something was wrong w/me, till they started coming true. Pray all's well w/you & yurs.! God is sooo good yet it took me yrs to understand His wisdom. I finally learned that things I want to happen, will, in His time, IF its meant to be.!

If not, no matter how bad It was wanted, I just take a deep breath, shake it off & move on.! Feels so relaxing & comforting to walk in "His peace that passes all understanding" doesn't it? Thnx again GiGi

That first sentence is untrue. God is a spirit, not a man. John 4:24. He later created man. Just because man is made in His image doesn't mean He's a man Himself. That would be a false assumption and there's no verses indicating that.

Goliath was six cubits and a span.

2 Samuel 21:15-22 gives you the answer to the rest of those questions.

1 Chronicles 20:4-7

Goliath had four brothers:

1. Ishbibenob

- A Giant, age unknown

- Had a 300 shekles of brass weighted spear

- Had a new sword and was going to kill David with it

- Killed by Abishai

2. Saph (Sippai)

- A Giant, age unknown

- Killed by Sibbechai

3. Lahmi

- A Giant, age unknown

- Spear staff was like a weavers beam (about 5 ft)

- Killed by Elhanan

4. Six Fingered (Unnamed)

- A Giant (a man of great stature), age unknown (likely the largest)

- Had six fingers on each hand

- Had six toes on each foot

- Killed by Shimea

Hoped this helped, if you have any questions just ask me.

Revelation 11:9 will give you that answer, It was Satan in the form of a serpent. Angels are spirits and can appear as anything.

The Bible never says anything close to raping a woman is fine. It is definitely wrong. In 2 Samuel 13, Amnon was murdered by his half-brother for raping their sister. The sons of Jacob murdered the whole city for raping their sister Dinah in Genesis 34. Judges 19 also doesn't condone rape. Deuteronomy 22: 25 says that if a woman is raped the the man that raped her should be stoned. Now to the other topic of questioning, if a man is arguing with another man and he gets hit, it is no right for the woman to step in. Especially should she not grab a man by his man parts. The Mosaic law was very clear that sexual sin in any way would not be condoned. She committed a sexual sin by grabbing his man parts and in turn she would lose that hand for committing that sin. Jesus died on the cross for us and Paul clearly says that we are no under the law, but under grace. Jesus fulfilled the law. There is no excuse to sin because of that, but we don't cut off people's hands anymore.

I'm not sure if this is what you are asking or not, but the Bible pictures the Word of God as water in Ephesians 5:26. Also I agree that the Bible is signified as a sword and that God does this for a reason. He says that His word is the Sword of the Spirit in Ephesians 6:17 and Hebrews 4:12. I think this is also found in Revelation 1:16. Out of Jesus's mouth is the Word of God so out of His mouth comes a sword in Revelation. I truly believe that it is symbolic. Also Jesus gives us the example of fighting the Devil with quoting the Word of God. The only offensive weapon. It is not a coincidence. God's word is a sword because it is not only used to be shared, but also used as the weapon against Satan, his demons, and his followers.

Where does it say Jesus was born on December 25th

The sons of God, was and are, (since the beginning of time) believers. From the first mention in Genesis 6 to now the sons of God means believers on Earth. Even in Job, the sons of God does not mean angels. See Satan was already cast out of Heaven, so there was no way he could go there to appear before God. So in Job, it was believers that had come together to worship and present themselves before God. Satan came among them and saw Job and spoke to God about Job, a son of God. Then first mention in the New Testament with John 1:12 is talking about believers. It doesn't change at all in the Bible as far as my study has gone on this. My Bible college would back me up on this belief as well.

I would have to humbly disagree with this. Just because God said let us make man in our image in no way proves that He was man before He was God. Jesus was in the beginning and He came as a man. God put Himself into flesh in His own image. God had it all planned. God created us after Himself. God was not created. Man is the image of God, which in turn through looking at man, it points to God. Maybe it's just how you said it or semantics, but I think you came to the right conclusion without the right work to get there.

Further thoughts on Luke 15 and parable of the Prodigal son and the lost sheep of the 99.

As believers we can truly have Godly sorrow that leads to repentance ( 2 Cor. 7:10). Such is the case with a new believer; but parables such as these show how we should continue as His sheep to live with such a love for our heavenly Father.

The primary point I wish to emphasize here is how a man's heart can harden to the point where a conscience is seared; hence beyond hope (1 Timoty 4:2). This is serious business; and we see it with professing believers and the world alike. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 gives us a list of the unrepentant sins; more specifically lifestyles which will end up with the sinner in hell. When sin happens it needs to be acknowledged as such; a personal offense to God; other people we know and society at large particularly in the categories of sexual sin; or mental and physical attacks on others. The man who covers up his sins ( Proverbs 28:13 will not prosper; therefore the verse states we should confess in order to obtain mercy. Somehow as believers it seems like it is a one time thing many times to ask for mercy; to beg for forgiveness or to seriously consider how tender His mercies truly are.

Consider Lamentations 3:22-23. In the midst of the most harrowing; graphically detailed description of God's city of Jerusalem being overcome by famine; disease and war we see this statement showing that God still holds out mercy; despite most of these calamities being a result of deliberate sins warned against by the prophets for many years. The parable in Luke 15 in regard to the older brother is almost the opposite scenario; someone who has an abundance of material wealth and still complains as to his father's forgiveness of his younger brother. This goes to show that spiritual blessings are not dependant on material wealth; and when we have success financially it isn't necessarily appreciated if we have a godless spiritual existance.

Dear Don:

I went through a mini Sunday school course discussing different kinds of Psalms as well as hearing some comments on the divisions. Briefly looking it up online basically gives hypothesis but in summary no one really knows. Chronologically it is out of order; although there seems to be a more heavy Davidic authorship in the first book in particular; with other sections being clustered together of the son of Asaph; the sons of Korah and other individuals.

There are different types of Psalms; such as impreccatory (asking for judgment the most "controversial" type); Messianic and or prophetic; Davidic (as stated earlier); and others with acrostic patterns in the original language such as Psalm 119. One can't entirely confine one type in a particular Psalm either; and a number of them seem to blend together in the original text and somehow are divided in English translations.

As far as any patterns and their meaning; perhaps some further computer analysis; for example could find a predictable pattern as to what the next one should be or find a predictable chronological pattern or patterns that recur. The Bible itself as a whole starts with Job as the likely oldest book; Revelation would be the latest written and happens to be at the end of our Bibles today.

It seems we have more Psalms than say Proverbs from all the ones Solomon was said to have written.

Perhaps the musical aspect is something largely missed; there are some Jews who put them to music even today in some more modern sounding tunes among Messianic Jews especially. We have no idea how it would have sounded except the types of instruments used as mentioned in Psalms such as the cornet trumpet or other stringed instruments of the time. It is interesting that part of Deuteronomy involving the blessings of Moses also were a song. Selah as a term is not very well understood either.

Maybe archaeology will reveal the answers to these questions; until then it is an educated guess.

Luke 15 involves an initial encounter with the Pharisees; who are chiding Christ for hanging out with sinners. Thus the Parables in this chapter certainly are meant for them to hear along with the crowds.

Luke 15:7 "I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance." Whether this refers to the self righteous Pharisees which Christ described in a similar manner in Luke 5:31 or it literally means people in a right standing with God or both could be debated.

Luke 15:12 And the younger of them said to his father, 'Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me.' And he divided unto them his estate. What is often missed here is that BOTH sons had their inheritance divided at that time; and it was likely as tradition held the older son would have the largest sum. Something else I noticed here as well that is often overlooked is that the youngest son spent all of his inheritance. Thus; forgiveness was complete but nonetheless we see the concept of loss of reward.

To avoid not seeing the big picture here; it was clear that the Pharisees had no love for seeing someone repent and finding any joy in it; whether among themselves or the Gentiles. Their concept of God no doubt affected their lifestyle and dogmas; adding hundreds more laws to the Old Testament Canon through their own thoughts and imaginations (which resulted in the Talmud and other extrabiblical uninspired and mystical texts and traditions of men). With this attitude no one sees the need to repent in order to be ABLE to obey the law; at least in regard to the thoughts and intentions of the heart whereby men had to EXCEED the righteousness of the Pharisees and scribes in order to be saved ( Matthew 5:20). What was missing was understanding the nature and character of God and basically worshipping the law itself rather than it's creator. We can only truly love the law if saved.

wrong scripture reference Gen 1:26

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Once God had completed the Bible with the Book of Revelation, He states in no uncertain terms that we are never again to look for a direct communication from God in a dream or a voice or a vision or a tongue.

God only speaks to us directly in an articulated way through His Word, the Bible.

God was man before he was God such is proven by Adams creation.

In the beginning the scriptures says God said let us create a man in our own image.

Meaning the image of man existed way long before human beings were created by God.

Which proves that before he was God he was man

Before he was a spirit he was a word.

Through our flesh we contain the image of the spirit of God.

We were made through the image, We did not create the image for it was already there.

When we come to the New testament of Jesus Christ, the book of Hebrews say's Oho God your kingdom shall rule and reign above all and forever.

Adam was given a creation to rule in a form of a garden and little did that creation consist of human beings only Eve was there.

But Jesus Christ was given mankind to rule over and god creation to recreate it in his image.

Let all Angels of heaven worship him, but before him all Angels worshipped God alone.

Jesus Christ said it that I chose to live and suffer like a man and not a God, which proves that the first image above all images is the image of man.

Through man you can see God not through God you can see man.

I hope you all stay blessed

Faith is not knowing or understanding God.

Faith is to carry God in you

Faith is to create

Faith is to inform

Faith is to teach

Faith is to provide

He carried God to the cross to restore our relationship and authority to God

He created a space for forgiveness

He informed people of sin

He taught the word of God

He provided by only 2 laofes and 1 fish.

That's faith

23Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.

24But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,

25And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.

Further insight. As Ephesians 1:6 states we are to be made acceptable in the beloved. As far as us "accepting" Christ; that is not Biblical as James 2:19 warns about God. Christ is more than Savior; He is Lord and Master; whether we acknowledge it or not there are only two alternatives ( Matthew 21:44). His Sheep hear His voice; the goats do not. ( John 10:27).

This "committing" of men it would seem would involve the Godhead living within someone and being sealed with the Spirit. It would involve chastising which Hebrews 12:8 in King James brings out pretty strongly in regard to those not in Christ who are "bastards."

Therefore Jesus had to do constant "weeding" out; and this would involve challenging statements; parables; and other means.

Jesus in Luke 16:15 warned that what was esteemed or honorable among men was an abomination to God. That is different than what Jesus Himself did when He was praised in Luke 2:52 for His growth in wisdom and stature in terms of how He "gained favor" at that time. That shows His humility in the 30 or so years; taking up the majority of His earthly life being submissive to His parents (unlike the Pharisees who found ways through their religious piety to disrespect parents for the sake of their own material gain).

Jesus loved His own so much that He made sure that He was the atoning sacrifice on the cross through His own volition; and death could not hold Him. (see John 10:18). It was a miracle in itself that He survived all the attempts on His life (including Gethsemene) through supernatural assistance so that He could make it to the cross to die at the set time and place. No one in scripture is said to be amazed at these acts

Hello Texsis, You can read what I wrote to Giannis about visions I have had. Glad to know that God has blessed you with dreams that are prophetic. How wonderful.