Bible Discussion Replies PAGE 301

Ps.119:11 "The seed in itself" (1 of 2)

"Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee."

The Word of God is the seed in itself which has come from God to man. So the Bible is the God document and what God has sown in our hearts we need accept as our solemn responsibility.

God is a Spirit. It is sown in heart which is a spiritual space. God formed all hearts alike but not all produce the same yield.

God is a Spirit from everlasting to everlasting. The Spirit in organising the Document deals with His righteousness so the Book is a Manual of instruction 2 Ti.3:16. The only way to be fruitful we have faith to which there is no alternative.

God blessed man "Be fruitful"

Ge.1:11-12 There are grass, herbs and trees. The Spirit has supplied us sets of three with which the Spirit tells us God is one. (De.6:4) But in his personality there are three facets so the Word is sound as well as a sign. Besides it has a body which explains the examples cited here above. "But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

"(1 Co.15:38)

God is a Spirit and when God sent his only begotten Son to the world ,the begotten is in the sense that God was the Word. Jesus Christ could claim therefore, "My Father worketh hitherto, and I work" So the Word and Man as a sign gives us the Father-Son relationship.( John 1:1; 5:17)

The everlasting covenant is based on this relationship. Thus when they say "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:"(Ge.1:25) "In our image" refers to the tripartite nature of man. Body spirit and soul are therefore non-negotiable. The seed in itself is the word so there is a spiritual significance when God commands man,"Be ye holy for I am holy" The word of God is a witness in the spiritual space we call as heart.

God gives the seed as it pleased him. The Word become flesh has a body which is a glorious body. So the Spirit refers to Christ coming in his glory, with his holy angels.(Matt.35:31)

Brother Jesse (and Jaz), I believe Jesus' Words in Luke 7:47 are directly related to His Words to Simon in Luke 7:40-43. In this passage, Jesus asks Simon which of those two debtors would love the kind forgiving creditor more: the one who owed five hundred pence or the one who owed fifty?

I sense that Jesus was showing Simon, via this short parable, that this woman of the night came here with a great weight upon her heart: a weight of much sin maybe over a long period of time & hearing of Jesus, she came to the only One Who could forgive her. Thus she expressed her sorrow & unceasing repentance by this act of utter humility of not only washing the feet of Jesus with her tears & anointment but stooping even further to kiss His feet. So, I see a clear but stern message to Simon that this woman, whom he sorely despised, was showing more love because of her need of much forgiveness, than Simon who gave Jesus little respect & having no inclination to self-examination, apart from inviting Him to his house for a meal, as a kind gesture.

I agree that I do see a message here of a self-righteous Pharisee who believes he has no need of self-introspection bringing on repentance & renewal, when compared to this woman who wept over her sins before the Holy Son of God; yet I see, that Jesus' emphasis here is on the full expression of love & gratitude when one is forgiven for their many sins, whereas those who might 'love little' can include those such as the religiously inclined who offer regular set prayers for forgiveness or even those not giving much regard to the gravity of their sins before God, these would not demonstrate the same tearful emotion that the woman laden with sins displayed. So, I perceive that Jesus is showing us here is the value of true repentance for sins & resulting gratitude, rather than what comes from a heart not so mightily affected by the wretchedness of sin. Forgiveness is the end result, but our response in love may be quite different.

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And so we see Faith in its greatest display here: that full 'persuasion' meant that nothing else mattered when the desperate need for help & restoration drove one person to the only One Who can deliver & heal. And of course, with Nicodemus, John 19:39,40 reveals that he, along with Joseph of Arimathaea, tended with all care to the lifeless Body of Jesus, having believed the Words of Jesus given to Him at the first & now fully persuaded even identifying with Jesus in His Death.



It appears that Nicodemus was now a new man, grieving over Jesus & separated from the rest of his company of murderous colleagues who no doubt were overcome with joy at Jesus' Death & the end of their problems. I also wonder if that woman's faith held up strongly after her healing & realization that all Jesus had done to her & for others, none other could do "except God be with Him". Blessings.

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Thanks brother Jesse for that very informative & enlightening explanation on the different parts of those garments. As I considered Luke 8:43-48 & the condition of the woman (both her emotional & physical states), my mind went also to John 3:1,2 concerning Nicodemus. Of course, these are two very separate events, but the similarities seem noteworthy.

Both the woman & Nicodemus had very clear pressing needs. The one for healing of her persistent, long-drawn-out bleeding condition & the other, of his desperate need to reconcile what his fellow Pharisees believed about Jesus & what was niggling in his own mind of the real truth about Jesus ("for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him").

They both came in secret/under cover to Jesus. The woman in faith coming under cover, completely oblivious to the multitude pressing upon Jesus ( Luke 8:45), risking being recognized, dragged out & beaten for her 'crime'; as was Nicodemus, in secret from the prying eyes of his peers & probable expulsion - using the cover of darkness, desperate to learn the secret about this Man whom so many hated & would feel justified in killing.

If either of these two came up openly to Jesus, in public view, they might well have not had their needs met, for reasons given above. But their great need for healing, one for a sick body & the other for a troubled mind & spirit, were greater than the probable results that would have come against them. Onto Page 2.

David homan,

Sorry, but I don't have an answer for the female Rabbi question. I am not aware of any female Rabbi's in the Old Testament. I don't believe females are allowed to serve as Rabbi's in Orthodox Judaism, but please don't quote me on that.

What I meant by there was no physical touch, and I should have clarified that, so thank you so much for catching that as what I said does seem misleading. But what I meant is that Jesus did not lay His hands on her or touch her in order for her to be healed. She touched Him, and virtue went out from Him. There was no physical touch on Jesus' part other than her touching Him.

Blessings!

I see why you wantin to tell about that now ha,wow thats excellent research/schooling,,especially when the instructions,blueprint for it all down to the number of the threads came in the bible..

like instruction of the ark of the covenent and temples curtains etc.those were special craftsman/women back then you can sense the spiritual help they were getin,first time read it thought im gonna make me one, thats what did for living

i/we do passover since mid 80's. but its standard time one also been doing Lunar passover..you would halfto to know the story on that one to understand it,ha...

the 613 letters of the Ten Commandments is excellent gemstone,thankyou

Was there female Rabbi;s at some point n if so what were they called.probably not,but just checkin. im still being schooled by a teacher,thats my guided source but yes also ive noticed about the word Sun,..and alot of others words with just one differant letter,,ha But,very good info there,alot of Gems...

but dont understand one thing,you said she touched the Kanaph ,the border,then last thing you said,there was no physical touch,. jst asking in good honest jest,and for taking time to share this awesome info,nice gift.

cant Thankya enough

God bless ya too

Momsage,

Thanks for sharing your testimony. I enjoyed reading that. I wanted to let you know that I have not forgotten about you. I have been going through Matthew's gospel and once I finish with Matthew, I will begin sharing the differences I see between what the Greek text is saying verses our English Bibles.

I also wanted to ask if you have a spell-checker that might be changing your words. In one post you mentioned a "Masochistic Text" where it should be Masoretic Text. And in your testimony, you mentioned special prayers you read from a "cataclysm." I think the proper word be Catechism. Although, the word "cataclysm" would fit as a better descriptive word for that church!

Blessings in the Lord!

Jaz,

I completely missed your whole point and I do apologize for that. I think I understand your message better now. I re-read your original post and your question asking about Luke 7:47 where Jesus talks about those to whom little is forgiven, and asking if He means those who haven't sinned very much, or those who THINK that they haven't sinned very much?" Unless someone else has an answer to that, the only answer I am able to give is that in that section of scripture, Jesus is showing a contrast between the love of a sinful woman and a self-righteous Pharisee. What you are saying does make sense. The Pharisees had their own righteousness (Self-righteousness). Sorry I didn't have a better answer!

God Bless!!!

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Back then even Jesus was called a rabbi, and He had a prayer shawl. The word teacher is DIDASKALOS. HRABI in Hebrew means teacher. Around the 18th or 19th century the whole meaning of rabbi changed to what we know today. Today, it's somebody who's on staff and part of the leadership in the administration. Back then the rabbis were teachers and that is all they did.

It's interesting that when rabbis would travel (Jesus being a rabbi), He wore a TALLIT. And this woman said if I can just come up and touch the KANAPH of His garment (the promise of Malachi 4:2). Jewish people went around touching the hems and the tassels of Jewish rabbis because they believed in their teachings that if the Jewish rabbi truly was anointed of God, that you could touch his KANAPH and be healed. It didn't always happen. That is just part of their tradition.

But it was based on God's promise here, that healing in His KANAPH (translated wings) is part of the robe for the rabbis. The reason she comes up behind Jesus is because she is unclean. She is not even supposed to be there in the crowd. But she knows, because she knows who Jesus is and she has heard about Him, so she comes up from behind Him and touches the KANAPH, the border. And immediately she was healed.

Jesus in Verse 45 says, "Who touched me?" After everybody denied it, Peter and they that were with him said, Master, the multitude is thronging and pressing upon you, what do you mean, who touched me? Everybody's touching you! Jesus turns and instructs them and says, "Somebody has touched me: for I perceive that virtue has gone out of me." This was a special ministry that came out from Jesus to this woman. It wasn't a physical touch.

I hope this was not too long and I do hope that you might find some use with what I have shared here. God Bless!!!

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Those little tassels, those little threads, there are exactly 613 of them. And they are all made on 12 tassels. And they have to be counted and they have to be exact, 613 threads representing the 613 letters in the 10 Commandments. And those tassels are called the TSITSITS on the KANAPH.

Now the Jews themselves, why did they go around touching people's robes? Well, in Malachi 4:2, it says, "But unto you that fear My name shall The Sun of Righteousness (and please notice how Sun is spelled). This is one of the passages of scriptures that's used in creation studies in the book of Genesis to show that the way that the Lord created the universe is to represent His relationship with His people. Jesus, the Messiah is called the Sun (SUN) of Righteousness. "But unto you that fear My name shall The Sun of Righteousness arise, with healing in His KANAPH. It says wings, but it is the word KANAPH. And you shall go forth and grow up as calves in the stall.

And so, the TALLIT, or some people call it the TALETH, is the prayer shawl. That's the whole shawl that the Jewish men wear. And the KANAPH is the border, and the TSITSIT are the tassels.

Now the whole robe, in Numbers 15:37-41, this was the Lord's instructions on the making of this robe, its color, everything about it. And so, putting all those scriptures together, just in their brief summary form, is that whenever a rabbi, and by the way the rabbis back then were different than the rabbis today.

Rabbis back then in Jesus' day were teachers. They were not on staff. They were not part of the leadership of the synagogue. They were teachers. And that is all they did was teach. In fact, some of them traveled from village to village and charged people money for them to teach their children the Torah (the Law).

Hi Michael homan,

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I do agree with you about the parallels in the bible. You make an interesting statement about His power going out exclusively to her. With such a huge crowd pressing against Jesus, so many people had to have been touching Him, but His virtue only goes out to her.

Sorry it took me a bit to get back with you. I needed to find my notes from a study I did several years ago on Luke 8:43-48 which I have outlined as "The Provision for The Hemophiliac." I wanted to share more about what this woman actually touched on Jesus' garment.

In Verse 43, we have this woman who had a constant hemorrhaging problem and she had it for 12 straight years. Since she had this kind of condition, she would have to wear a red robe, and she would have to call out "unclean, unclean" as she came near people. She was unclean to touch or to be around the public. It's interesting that "Dr. Luke" gives us a little information. She spent everything she had on physicians and none of them could heal her! So, she comes up from behind Jesus and her issue of blood stopped flowing.

Here's what I find fascinating about this garment:

Leviticus 15:25 tells us that if a woman has an issue of blood many days out of the time of her separation, if it runs beyond the time of her separation, all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation, she shall be unclean. She was unclean for 12 years.

The KANAPH is the bottom border of the garment, the robe that the Jewish men wore. The TALLIT is the name of the prayer shawl. The KANAPH is the border on the garment at the bottom. Then there are these little tassels that hang down from the KANAPH and they are called TSITTSIT's (pronounced seat-seats). If you ever get the chance to attend a real live Jewish Passover meal, you will notice the little tassels that hang down off of the border, or the KANAPH of his prayer garment. And it's interesting because those cannot just be made by anybody.

What does it say about premarital sex?

God Bless ya too,much appreciated

God Is SIMPLE.

This is not to say that God is not complete as a Being. He is totally complete, lacking nothing that is divine in His nature. But to speak of the simplicity of God is to speak of His complete unity in His essence. He is not made of parts, components, such as our bodies have or things He has created. He is only Spirit in His essential nature and His Being is all of His attributes eternally operating in a unified wholeness and all attributes are always expressed. It has been said that He IS His attributes. Are moral, intellectual, and emotional attributes change, His does not. So He cannot not be any one of His attributes all of the time.

Another way to think of this is that God is all that He has. He cannot increase or diminish any attribute of Himself because that would be a change in Himself. As humans, we speak of His attributes, but He really does not have separate attributes within Himself. He is all that He is because He is one divine essence.

You can read in Scripture many was that God says that He IS: a consuming fire, love, Spirit, light. One of the most telling things God says of Himself is how He named Himself to Moses: I AM WHO I AM. Ex. 3:14; a name that speaks to His simplicity, eternity, and self-existence. "ehyah asher ehyeh".

The God's simplicity of His Being helps us to grasp that He is a Being all to Himself. There is no other like Him. He alone is God, He is the beginning and the end of all things. All that we can say about who He is and all that He has revealed about Himself is Who He Is Always in totally and unity. There is no greater or lesser aspect of God. He is All in All.

Today I wish to speak on how God is SUBLIME

Sublime describes God's overall exceeding, excelling, matchless, greatness in all of His attributes.

It is an all-encompassing kind of attribute that speaks to His transcendence, holiness, and awe-inspiring nature. It is attributed to the magnitude of these attributes as well as that of His majesty, splendor, beauty, power, wisdom, profundity, etc.

Saying God is sublime is saying in all of His Being, He is extraordinary in all of his excellencies, infiniteness, limitless, supremeness in that His whole essence far exceeds anything He has created. He is the paramount of Beings, the Apex from which all things have their source and life. He in incomparable in his glory and exaltation. There is none higher nor who even can come near to His greatness. His transcendent nature is spoken of being "far" as in "Am I not a God who is near (imminent) and I am a God who is far away? (transcendent). Jer. 23:23

Therefore, sublime is an adjective that sort of "sums up" all the perfections of God as a whole package, so to speak.

Many of the posts I've made about who God is do overlap, as we will see in the next post.

Hi Becca.sue,

Does our soul live on after we die? Do the souls of the dead roam around on the earth and some are in heaven and some are in hell? This is my understanding, the thought or belief in ghosts or spirits of people, some going to heaven and some going to hell comes from the teaching that the soul is immortal, and the soul never dies. It started when the serpent told Eve you shall not surely die, many ancient nations had different forms of religious beliefs on the immortality of the soul, and what we see today was adopted from Greek philosophy.

Are there evil spirits, devils, and demons on this earth? Yes, and these are what people are encountering, my understanding of the Bible they are not the souls of people. God told Israel and it applies to us today, not to deal with mediums or spiritualism those who work divination. We see Saul doing it in 1 Samuel 28 and he died because he did it, 1 Chronicles 10:13.

We sleep in death when we die Psalm 13:3 Matthew 27:52 John 11:11-14 1 Corinthians 15:20. We only put on immortality when we are resurrected, Job 14:13-14 Daniel 12:2 1 John 5:28-29 Corinthians 15:51-54. I hope this helps but you and your husband study it for your understanding, not mine.

God bless,

RLW

Hello Dear Brother , I don't disagree with one word that you have replied to me and thank you for them .

In my message , I wasn't really talking about her , I was talking about those people who were forgiven little and therefore loved little in return and those who think that they are whole and righteous . Their response to Christ is different to that of someone who is able to recognise their own sinfulness . A bit like the men who gather around the woman taken in adultery . The older ones put their stones down and move away from her before the younger ones do , their consciences have had longer to mature and they are seemingly wiser to their own faults .

I think we need to be the same as those older men no matter how old or young we are , we need to grow a conscience and try to put it next to the amount of pure love that has , and is being ,shown to us by God every day . If we put our own consciences in one side of the scales and the pure love of God in the other side....imagine how low those scales would go on one side but not the other !

Hope you have a good day today .

Hello Jaz,

I would like to share my understanding on Luke 7:47. Verses 48-50 can be read also with Verse 47.

This is another instance where God's Spirit worked in a situation to show what faith looks like. Her love did not produce her salvation. She was not saved by works.



What Jesus is saying is that her love proved that she was saved, that she was forgiven. Love is a fruit, a response to Christ, not a work in order to gain salvation. It is a byproduct.



John says in first John Chapter 4, "We love Him because He first loved us." Our relationship with the Lord is a response. Even thanksgiving does not originate with us. We are told to give God thanks for everything.



The word thanksgiving means respond to grace. That is what it means, EUCHARISTHEO CHARIS.



The more I am exposed to God's grace, the more I have a response of thanks. Gratitude! God's pouring out in my life, what I need and I don't deserve, and I thank Him for it. That is what it means. Her love was proof of her faith.



Look at the apostle Paul who was Saul of Tarsus. God saved him and Paul says "I'm not worthy to be an apostle because I persecuted church of God." And he told Timothy in 1 Timothy 1:15, he says "I am the chiefest of sinners!" And that's my message, that if I'm the chiefest of sinners, and God can save me, He can save anybody. What a message to have. But Paul was no celebrity!



How would we like to have the most notorious criminal in the world visit our church? And they come and say "I got a testimony!" It would be like, "Yeah, we don't mind as long as we have two people follow you around!" Just stay away from the offering box!



But you know, the people who are the most sinful, when they get saved, watch out because they're gone. They will leave us in the dust. For the person who is forgiven most will love the most. It gives that much more importance to pray for the people that we know who are not saved.

God bless!!!

Okay David0921,

You are entitled to your opinion, but your accusation of what you say I am doing is wrong. You began this thread and you asked "But what about every word that Luke or Paul or Jeremiah or Amos wrote, or any other word that the human scribes wrote in the Bible?"

Since you brought up Paul, I responded with a simple question asking what your thoughts were on what Paul was saying in the verses I provided. The reason I asked was because I see Paul clearly stating that he was speaking for himself. It was a simple question, that's all. I kind of wished I had never askedI asked for your thoughts, you've shared them, so I guess we're done.

Hi Jaz,yes,im not in no way saying that any gift from God has to be asked for, i totally understand his Blessing are on the face of the earth over Evrything,including plants animals and All.....100%, He's a Awesome mysterious God

have learned thru personal experience when it comes to things out of extra ordinanary,when a person is in some kind of trouble knowing or not,that person needs to ask for help on there own accord,and not to expect help with out asking. again im not claiming that God wont help anyone knowing or not,with out asking. thats just a General Rule. that ive experinced to be true

but as mentioned primarily, when it comes to forgiveness or obtaining the Gift of Heaven those were the two main focal points

the Gift of Heaven is a Enormous Gift and if someone cant bring themselves to at least ask for or pursue it then good luck to em

but Appreciate your response had a feeling that was going to be taken like that by someone,,, ha

have a good one

Jesse,

You say that the Bible "CONTAINS" the Word of God. That is far different than recognizing that the ENTIRE Bible "IS" the Word of God.

And in doing so you are relegating different verses, passages, chapters, or even books of the Bible as having different levels of authority.

The Book of Esther for example does not even mention God. Yet every word and phrase in the Book of Esther is EXACTLY the word and phrase that God Himself chose to be written by the human author. Just as is every word in the Bible that Paul or Luke or Isaiah or Moses wrote. We don't need to get into the mind of the human scribes.

And God says this very clearly in 1 Peter 1:21 "For the prophecy came not in old time by the WILL OF MAN: but holy men of God spake as they were MOVED by the Holy Ghost." And this applies not just to certain parts of the Bible, but to the ENTIRE Bible as we read in 2 Timothy 3:16 "ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

Christ Himself identifies Himself intimately with His Word, the Bible, as we read in John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

So there is no argument here. God Himself is the author of every word, every verse, every chapter, every book of the entire Bible, the Word of God. It is not necessary for us to understand how this was done. Just that it was done as God declares.

I would never want to hold that the Bible merely CONTAINS the Word of God. That, in effect, strips the Bible of its authority. When, in fact, every word in the Bible, IS the Word of God Himself. And is the reason that we are commanded to "compare scripture with scripture" throughout the ENTIRE Bible.

Rev 22:18,19 warns us:

"And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Good morning to you all . I'm reading the book of Luke at the moment and I was struck by the similarity of chapter 5 verses 31+32 and chapter 7 verse 47 . In both chapters ,Jesus seems to me to be having very subtle digs at the scribes and Pharisees . Those that are whole ( none of us are , we are all sinners ) . I came not to call the righteous ( none of us are ) . So Jesus is talking about those people who think that they are whole and righteous and if that's what they think of themselves then they probably won't answer when he comes knocking on their door because they ( or us ) don't recognise that they are sinners . They think that they don't need Jesus and the forgiveness and reconciliation that can only come through him .

In chapter 7 verse 47 Jesus talks about those to whom little is forgiven , does he mean those who haven't sinned very much ? Or does he mean those who THINK that they haven't sinned very much ?

We can never be aware of just how sinful we are because we don't always recognise our own sinfulness on an individual sins basis . We don't always know the full consequences of our words or actions or omissions but God does .

One thing I know for sure is that however sinful I think I am , I should probably multiply that by a thousand . If we cannot at least try to recognise our own sinfulness we can never really appreciate what has been done for us , out of pure love , by God and by Jesus . And if we can't recognise the magnitude of what has been done , out of a pure love , we cannot feel that love on any where near the scale that we should be able to and if we can't feel it we can't hope to be able to respond to it appropriately and proportionately . Recognising our own sinfulness is essential I think . Only when we do that can we hope to appreciate what has been done for us , out of a pure love . Hope you all have a lovely day .

Dear Brother , with respect I would have to disagree with you on this subject . There are many people in this world who are receiving blessings from God and they don't even know it or Him and yet He is at work in everyone's lives , being kind and generous to the ungrateful and unbelieving . Also , remember the widow of Nain ? There is no mention of her asking for her son to be given back to her alive . Jesus seems to have taken it upon himself , moved with compassion for this lady , to give her her son back alive and well .

I'm sure we all know many atheists who seem to lead charmed lives , everything just seems to fall into place for them . I'm glad for them because if all they have are the things of this life then let them enjoy this life . As Jesus says , they have their rewards in this life , we Christians are looking forward to something beyond the physical . Our rewards are on the way but are not to do with this world . May God bless us all and keep our eyes and hearts attuned to the real riches , treasures in heaven , soon to be on earth .

Daniel 12

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time( Matthew 24:14-15&21-23.Take look): and at that time (THE CURRENT TIME) thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. (Who are the light of the world?)

1Thessalonians 4:15-17

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel (MICHAEL), and with the trump of G0D( Revelation 11:15-18): and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the cloud(THE SAME CLOUD THAT APPEARED IN HIS ASCENSION IN THE MOUNT OLIVET- ACTS 1:9-11, to meet the Lord in the air(IN THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE THIRD HEAVEN THAT WILL BE ESTABLIHED IN THIS CURRENT MILLENNIUM): and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Get ready , the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing.

David0921,

I believe we have everything we need to know about history, prophecy, and doctrine contained in the pages of the Bible, from Genesis through Revelation. It's been said by many (Including myself) that the bible is the word of God. I've said it before and I don't see anything wrong with saying that because it does contain the words spoken by God, words spoken by Jesus, and words spoken by the apostles. However, not every single word that we read in the bible is from the mouth of God Himself.

You ask me how I determine which verses in the bible are truly the word of God. As you have said, we have the words of Jesus recorded for us. Those words are not hard to find. We also have recorded for us the words that God spoke through the prophets. And then we have places in the bible where there are words spoken by others that have been recorded for us, words that were not spoken by God. For instance, God would not accuse His Son of blasphemy, but we read in the bible the very words spoken by those who were accusing Jesus of blasphemy. When the crowds yelled, "Crucify Him, Crucify Him," were those God's words or the words of an angry crowd? I am just using these as examples to show that not every single word in the bible is from the mouth of God Himself.

We could go back and forth with this for a long time, and this would be what some might call "circular reasoning," between the two of us, so I honestly don't see any reason to do so, unless you feel the need to do so? I simply asked for you to share your thoughts on the three verses I gave, not the entire bible. It seems fairly clear to me that Paul was speaking for Himself, not speaking the "exact" words that God gave him to speak. If you are convinced otherwise, then there's not much more we can discuss about those verses.

John 11:20-24

20 Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met him: but Mary sat still in the house. (JESUS is coming and is at door, it is midnight, Behold, the bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet HimMatthew 25:6and10.

21 Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.

22 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of GOD, GOD will give it thee.

23 JESUS saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.

24 Martha saith unto JESUS, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection AT THE LAT DAY. (Seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, or seventh and last millnnium.. This Day arrived)

Be cereful or else get ready

Acts 17:30-31CSB

30"Therefore, having overlooked the times of ignorance, GOD now commands all people everywhere to repent,

31because He has set a Day (Lord's Day, the seven and last Day, or seven and last millennium)when he is going to Judge the WORLD in righteousness by the man He has appointed.He has provided proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead."

John 1:10-13:

10He-JESUS-was in the WORLD,and the world was made by Him,and the WORLD knew Him not.

11He came unto His own,and His own received Him not.

12But as many as received Him,to them gave He power to become the sons of GOD,even to them that believe on His name:

13Which were born,not of blood,nor of the will of the flesh,nor of the will of man,but of GOD.

1John 3:1-15KJV

3Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of GOD:therefore the world knoweth us not,because it knew Him not.

2Beloved, NOW are we the sons of GOD,and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when He shall APPEAR, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is.

3And every man that hath this hope in Him purifieth himself, even as He is pure.

4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5And ye know that He was manifested to take away our sins; and in Him is no sin.

6Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither known Him.

7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous.

8He that committeth sin is of the Devil; for the Devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of GOD was manifested, that He might DESTROY the works of the Devil.

9Whosoever is born of GOD...His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of GOD.

10In this the children of GOD are manifest, and the children of the Devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of GOD, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Hi Jesse,Yes, exactly to that last paragraph you sent,Persuasion. excellant,a clue to the behind the curtain of sorts to this story. thats the thing about the Bible. parables and stories usually have more than one meaning

they can be parallelling another instance from the past or future in differant ways,some people see one thing another person see's another

1611, Jesus said 'Who touched my clothes' in another one, scene it said the Hem of his garment

general idea is there,she did what the other people were doing or trying to do,but his power went out to her exclusively for the reasons you noticed in that last paragraph you sent, Confidence Faith n persuasion,,yep

but yes would be interested in what you would like to share about that and the Tallit.

im open minded for sake of learning and Truth

God Bless ya too

Jesse,

Let me ask you this, if I may.

How do you determine which verses in the Bible are truly the Word of God?

Do the words of Jesus recorded for us in the Bible have more authority than other parts of the Bible that are not direct quotes of God Himself?

What is God teaching in 2 Peter 1:21 and 2 Timothy 3:16?

Michael homan,

You are welcome. I have more information about the Tallit and exactly what she touched on Jesus' garment that I can share if you'd like? At least it is information that I find interesting!

And I agree with you that her confidence goes hand in hand with faith. Since the word faith literally means persuasion, she was fully persuaded in her mind about who Jesus was and that He alone had the power to heal her.

God Bless!!!