Bible Discussion Replies PAGE 59

  • Bennymkje - 11 months ago
    Ps.23: 3-4 "Abiding in Christ" (1 of 2)

    "He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake./Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me."

    "For his name's sake" is what holiness does. Holy is his name as Mary would cry out inspired by it is doable. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father./And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son./ If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it." John 14:12-14)

    Manufacturing names gave the nation of Israel something to crow about which simply meant nothing since holiness of their names did not go deeper to be 'be holy for I am holy." Their heart was not right that they observed the minutiae of the requirements of Law without knowing the fulfillment of the Law was represented in the Son whom God had sent.They rejected him proving that their heart was estranged all along. A no better example we need seek than the time God gave the nation of Israel the decalogue. "And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die."(Ex.20:19). Jesus was among them when a voice from heaven spoke. "Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again./The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him./Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes."( John 12:28-30) God had judged their hypocrisy.

    Holiness of name is doable and a clear proof of it is in the glory it sheds."I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do."(17:4) Jesus Christ in his humanity finished the work proving it was doable.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Erratum

    Re. "We are complete in Jesus Christ. In the Gospel of St John we are shown what it is to be in his image, and in our likeness. "All things were made by him."( John 1:3). The Word was with God and when He made man a living soul the word became a part of us. This soul established we were accountable to God for soul was His very essence and also as a witness. When we die to sin and the word we are set in heavenly places and also provided with a building of God, spiritual body to be precise.

    Please read as follows:

    We are complete in Jesus Christ. In the Gospel of St John we are shown what it is to be in his image, "and after our likeness". "All things were made by him."( John 1:3). The Word was with God and when He made man a living soul the word became a part of us. This soul established we were accountable to God for soul was His very essence and also as a witness. When we die to sin and the world we are set in heavenly places and also provided with a building of God, spiritual body to be precise.

    Please read as
  • Bennymkje - 11 months ago
    Ps.23:3 "Soul"

    "He restoreth my soul."

    We are complete in Jesus Christ. In the Gospel of St John we are shown what it is to be in his image, and in our likeness. "All things were made by him."( John 1:3). The Word was with God and when He made man a living soul the word became a part of us. This soul established we were accountable to God for soul was His very essence and also as a witness. When we die to sin and the word we are set in heavenly places and also provided with a building of God, spiritual body to be precise. In this context we need reexamine the divine Will concerning us in the Abstract. "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:"(Ge.1:26) God a Spirit while any likeness the man could have is from the Son who is the visible image of him. The body 'thou hast prepared me is in the same image of the body that awaits us when our earthly tabernacle is dissolved. The other natural body is earthy while the lord from heaven is the Word become flesh. Our completeness is in that we have a better body reserved in heaven, "For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven."(2 Co.5:2).

    Our assurance is that our soul is in safekeeping so being in Christ,"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." This is the new alignment so peace with God means the likeness of Trinity is written as thus: our body is same spiritual body as that of the lord in heaven; our indwelling Spirit is the third office in Trinity. "And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace."( John 1:16)

    In the sign of dew on the fleece God showed Gideon holds a lesson as to how we shall fare after death. Our soul wears the spiritual body. Our lives are turned inside out. Christ becomes the head for all. Abiding in Christ being abound in fruits of the Spirit therefore is essential. To live only in flesh and blood is to deny fulness of Christ.
  • Bennymkje - 11 months ago
    Psalm 23 "I shall not want"

    "The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want".

    Gospel of John explains why. "And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace." (1:16) St Paul has this to say,"For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?"(1 Co.4:7)God having foreknown us in his Son has also blessed so it is from both worlds of the Spirit and body. Faith is one so we speak trusting fully that all that is needful for our life and godliness has been met in our abiding life. He is the Good Shepherd and we are his flock.

    "He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters".

    St John writes,"I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture."(10:9)

    Still waters of Shiloah that goeth softly is how God of all Mercies has blessed the land to which the Spirit sets a heavenly pattern,-"There isa river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holyplaceof the tabernacles of the most High."(Ps.46:4). Jesus as the Good Shepherd knows his sheep since it is his Father has put them under his care. "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:"(10:27). In following his path bearing our cross daily this pasture is in the now. Our physical bodies may be aching and we may be experiencing bereavement, ill health and calumny from the world but his grace does wonders as St Paul experienced when caught up to the third heavens and this unspeakable glory of Jesus as the restorer of our souls. St Paul's malady is ours too. The enemy is at the gates while our weak bodies are most vulnerable but what is our 'pick-me-up? "My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness."(2 Co.12:2,9)

    "He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake."
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Oseas,

    The Holy Spirit has not given any direct reference to what other sheep Jesus Christ is referring to than from St Paul's reference to breaking down the middle wall of partition. To my mind God of all mercies has left his Son to fulfill his works so from heaven an angel announces everlasting gospel, " to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,"(Re.14:6).

    Meanwhile we have ceased from our 'works' but become part of his life. So our fruits from our abiding life in Christ (I am the true vine) is as natural as it can be. In thee is the fountain of life and in thy light we see the light is how we ought to think of our lives. So let our Savior finish his work and we rest in our blessed hope which is one.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Part 2.

    Justification.

    Sanctification.

    Glorification.

    If you are a Christian, you are guaranteed all three steps (see Romans 8:29-30).

    You are forever justified, you are being sanctified, and you will for sure be glorified.

    1 Corinthians 6:11.

    All three of these things are from God's grace, not because of anything you have done or will do to earn them. see Ephesians 2:8-9.

    You cannot earn your justification, you cannot achieve your sanctification, and you cannot merit your glorification.

    You can do nothing without Christ.

    John 15:4-5.

    Romans 3:10-24.

    God bless and Good night.
  • S Spencer - 11 months ago
    The gospel is good news!

    The gospel is not good advice.

    However, the gospel is much more than good news!!

    The gospel is "the power of God UNTO salvation".

    For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Romans 1:16.

    The gospel is power!

    Good advice is not worth the snap of the fingers unless there is power to see it through.

    There is three steps to our Salvation.

    Justification.

    Sanctification.

    Glorification

    Justification is "an act of God whereby He pronounces a sinner to be righteous because of that sinner's faith in Christ." We are justified, or declared righteous, at the moment of our salvation.

    Sanctification is "the process by which Christians are set apart for God from the rest of the world, or the process by which Christians are made holy." Progressive, or experiential, sanctification, as it is sometimes called, is the effect of obedience to the Word of God in one's life. It is the same as growing in the Lord ( 2 Peter 3:18) or spiritual maturity.

    Glorification is "God's final removal of sin from the life of the saints so that they stand faultless before Him in glory in eternity"

    As Christians, we were justified when we confessed Christ and believed ( Romans 10:9), we are sanctified as we grow in holiness through the work of the Spirit.

    Ephesians 4:11-32; Galatians 5:16-24, and we will someday be glorified when we are resurrected into eternal life ( Colossians 3:4).

    Justification is a one-time event, sanctification is a process, and glorification is a future event.

    If you are a Christian, you are guaranteed all three steps.

    THE GOSPEL IS "THE POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION!

    God bless.
  • Chris - In Reply - 11 months ago
    So it appears Oseas, that you prefer to lean to your own extra-biblical beliefs rather than the pure unadulterated Word of God. I use God's Word, the Bible that we have in our hands, & in spite of that, you claim that those words are devilish. So who's in greater danger? For this reason, you continue to avoid my questions & incorrectly exegete from the Word of God, simply because your true colors will be revealed. So, in your warning to me, I would suggest that you seriously look at your claims against the Word of God, Jesus' Own Words, and not mine or anyone else's.

    Jesus' accusation against the Jews & their father being the devil ( John 8:40-44) was because they refused to believe His Words & had set about to kill Him - nothing at all to do with the Names Jesus used and gave of God to the people (i.e. Names: God, Father, Lord). The Names of God in the Bible are true & valid Names (whether in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek), that God Himself revealed ( Exodus 6:3, Exodus 3:15), which those of the OT referred to, that Christ proclaimed, & spoke of & believed upon by His followers. Your agenda in this matter is dubious & malicious against the Holy Name of God & His Christ, when you say that the glorious Name of Yahweh, which was given to Israel, is of the devil.

    And it's pointless referring to Isaiah 9:6 (if you're suggesting that Jesus (or the Word) is the Name of God - a matter you avoid clarifying), when many Scriptures throughout the NT show to us that the God of Heaven is still seated on the Throne, to Whom Jesus prayed, the people were pointed to, & to Whom Jesus ascended now seated at His right Hand. Please study the Scriptures fully, rightly dividing the Word, believing the Word, then we might have a true foundation for discussion.
  • Momsage - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Hi Adam:

    I agree there are many people who claim they are "Christians" but don't walk the walk, however, I don't quite understand what you mean that Paul hadn't reached "salvation." Salvation is when we sincerely repent and accept Christ as our Savior and we are in God's good graces, we can trust that Heaven is our destination as long as we continue to walk in the Spirit. Paul was definitely saved, a true believer. It's perfection in the Christian life that we want to reach for, through the perfecting power of the Holy Spirit. We learn how to reach this perfection by sincere, consistent prayer, study of God's word and fasting, in always loving our Savior and by living a holy, righteous life, WITHOUT sin, which we must do. Some people believe that because we are human we are too weak to live without sin (sinning/christian doctrine) but to me that also says that the redeeming, divine blood of Christ is too weak to overcome our sinful natures. Not So! This doctrine ignores that we CAN live without the "old man nature" because Christ told us to. See Eph 4:21-24, Galatians 5:16, Galatians 5:19-21 and Galatians 5:24. This doctrine doesn't differentiate between faults/weaknesses, (same thing), and sins. EXAMPLE: If you are angry and jealous with someone at work and you always want to lash out at them but instead you trust the Holy Spirit to keep you from lashing out and to learn to love this person in Him, it stays a weakness until eventually the anger and jealousy change to the patient love of Christ and the weakness is overcome. But if you give in to the anger and jealousy and are always sullen and unkind to this person this mindset is sinful, your soul is in danger of being lost. Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." These two promises don't go together, they are an either/or promise from God. One is for sin, the other for righteousness. God bless :)
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 11 months ago
    No doubt you have to consider how far your relationship is going to go with this guy. If God is calling you both toward marriage; of course that will bring some of this to the rear view mirror. You will have to see if the Lord would have you enter into this commitment because undoubtably there will be long term issues that he has even if extricated from that bad home environment.

    (I assume you are of age for such decisions posting on this site).

    I suppose I shouldn't assume one way or another if this family calls themselves Christian or not. That definitely would affect how you or he would interact with them; for instance if he needs to be bolder about his own convictions of faith and call them out for being hypocritical. Naturally they need to respect you and the relationship; that is something he will have to consider moving forward as well and if he is willing to make the hard decisions necessary if he needs to move out himself first; etc. Obviously what you don't want to do is move in together and compromise in the meantime.

    Ultimately whatever happens in the relationship if you both know the Lord you have an eternity in your hearts; and are seated in heavenly places with heavenly treasures set forth. Committing time to scripture reading and prayer both by yourselves and together no doubt is something you are aware of but the enemy I would surmise is doing his best to block that from happening.

    I will pray for clarity on these issues and state that if the Lord wants this relationship to continue He will overcome all obstacles.

    Hope there is some good news on this front soon.

    God bless; Rich P
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 11 months ago
    I too have what is called spiritual discernment. I thought it would be prudent to differentiate between someone who is very sensitive to emotions; and someone who is able to sense both good and evil which is a spiritual gift.

    Normally; of course there is some crossover; I believe the Lord often uses someone who is very open and instills the spiritual gift.

    The danger here is that when we sense evil we are overwhelmed quite often; I assume it isn't the presence of God around someone that causes too much of your distress. That can be overwhelming though as well.

    First off; if someone is truly being driven by a demon you need to be able to stand on the authority of the Lord; and become wise as to when to say something and when to remain silent and in a prayer mode. The Lord likely will make that clear to you if for instance; someone starts manifesting then you need to take charge and perhaps do a deliverance. That involves several things; such as getting a person to want to repent of strongholds that are giving a demon legal authority to torment them.

    There are some out there openly worshipping the Devil; and others who are influenced that way who want nothing to do with God. God of course gives us a spirit of boldness; not fear. It is helpful to understand common sins that bind people and also be cautious that you yourself aren't tempted. The enemy will give you many doubts but if you are called for deliverance ministry others will be there to guide you in what to do.

    What is another factor here is sensing these things in the congregation; again when there are problems often sin has entered the camp so to speak. What we don't know right away are the physiological and other issues that give us a more complete picture of what's going on until we get to know somebody better. I find it helpful when I sense the Lord strongly around someone to find out why; and hopefully learn something from them. I pray you can balance your gifts with others.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Hello Adam, I hear ya on this.

    Whenever I feel the ay you describe I remind myself of how Elijah felt when he had run from Jezebel to the cave in I Kings 19 feeling as though he alone was zealous for God and His ways. God told Elijah that He had set apart 7000 in Israel that have not bent their knee to Ba'al nor kissed the image with their mouths. God spoke to Elijah in His still small voice, reassuring Elijah that he was not alone in following God whole heartedly and lifted up the prophet's spirit into being hopeful and courageous to go from the cave and do just as God told HIm to do.

    We. too, can trust that God is able to keep those who are His and bring them to hope and assurance of having many brethren that are like you and I and many on this site. The world is full of strong Christians who are fighting the good fight of faith and obedience, many facing martyrdom. But in the U.S. and Europe, much complacency, as you state. Like you, I hate those whose witness is so shallow that any demand of discipleship is seen as too much for them to pursue and the commands of Christ in his recorded words in the gospels and what He spoke through Paul and other apostles are seen as an impingement on their "freedom in Christ".

    Indeed, we are free in Christ, to do what is good and right, not to continue in evil ways and worldliness. Perhaps many people who live carnally for themselves, for their comfort, and for their preferred sins have been ill-taught, but anyone who truly searches the Scriptures knows that we are to live godly lives in this wicked generation, fight against the sinful nature that we all have up until our body dies, and resist the lies and deceptions of the wicked one who wants to woo us into complacency, desensitize us to our own sinful ways and that of the community we live in (socially and society wise), and have us believe that right is wrong and wrong is O.K. for believers as well as unbelievers. He will lull any who are not diligent and careful.
  • GiGi - 11 months ago
    Dear Jema,

    I hope you are doing well these past few weeks. Miss having you posting here, but sometimes we all need a little break. I am thinking of you and, of course, keeping you in my prayers.
  • Adam - 11 months ago
    "Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you." Philippians 4:9 KJV

    Those things which you do...

    "I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus." Philippians 3:14 KJV

    press toward the prize

    "Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision." Philippians 3:2 KJV

    But beware

    "Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus." Philippians 3:12 KJV

    Has hasn't yet attained the prize and has not been perfected yet, but strives to (v15).

    "For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:" Philippians 3:20 KJV

    What stood out to me about these verses is:

    1. Paul gives a series of challenges and leads by example. He writes that Christianity is something that is practiced, involves effort, is an action, by doing, like running a race to receive a prize. Not that he's earning it by works. This is clarified many times. But genuine and not a 1-minute prayer someone made 30 years ago where nothing changed and nothing was practiced since.

    2. Paul says he hasn't yet attained the salvation. He has hope for salvation, but doesn't say he was already "saved" and finished and can just sit around watching Seinfeld reruns.

    The reason for sharing: I think it might help someone, because what I hear in sermons and the way people talk, it seems Christians don't take Christianity very seriously. There's little to no transformation. Paul says to become a slave of righteousness, and people are like, "no thanks, I didn't sign up for that." They're acting like they got a golden entry ticket and they're done. They assume they don't have to change, can continue to deeply enjoy sin, enjoy flesh, and enjoy the benefits of satan. Though they don't realize who they're actually following.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Greetings

    Bennymkje

    You are giving a great highlight about JESUS's work, and quoted John 10:16, that says: Other sheep I have, which are not of this fold (the Gentiles): them also I MUST bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. In my vision, JESUS was speaking of His Universal work bringing the Gentile people to salvation according the plan of GOD the Father in to create one Universal fold and one Universal Shepherd.

    There is an wonderful and wise interpretation of Paul Apostle, saying to the Church of Ephesians 2:12-18

    12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without GOD in the world:

    13 But NOW in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

    14 For He is our peace, who hath MADE BOTH ONE, and hath BROKEN DOWN the middle wall of partition between us;

    15 Having abolished in His flesh the enmity, even the Law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in Himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

    16 And that He might reconcile both unto GOD in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

    17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off (the Gentiles), and to them that were nigh(the Jews).

    18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. - Hallelujaaaah!!!
  • Bennymkje - 11 months ago
    Psalm 23 "The Lord is my Shepherd"-1

    This psalm is set from two standpoints. "The Lord said unto my Lord," refers to the Father Son relationship which is how we ought to approach this reverential psalm so God a Spirit represents the world of the Spirit. (Ps.110:1) In the night vision of Daniel the Ancient of days fit that part and the one like unto the Son of man (he came with the clouds of heaven-Dan.7:13)presented before him has this cloud in attendance. (He.12:1)

    These witnesses are called by God before the worlds began and given to the Son. "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." ( John 10:28). This cloud refers to a flock and it is to which David refers. The Ancient of days works from his fiery throne (7:9)so the Psalm 110 can be now put in proper perspective. "Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool./TheLordshall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies." (vv.1-2) When he sent his only begotten Son to the world the fiery wheels of his throne of flaming fire did not stop turning. "My Father worketh hitherto, and I work."( John 5:17) explains a continual action. The word of God is in control.

    The fiery wheels of God ever turn slowly so the Son may ever rule in the midst of thine enemies. In this context the message to the church of Philadelphia promises them an open door."behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it." While the churches are persecuted,- there were broadly ten persecutions, Jesus Christ assures them deliverance so they could every one of them say, "The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want."(23:1) Before we study the doors in heaven vis a vis heart as a door this psalm shall fit our purpose to study two worlds of the spiritual bodies and of our vile bodies subject to evil of our times.

    In transition we shall study this psalm verse by verse. (To ne continued)
  • Oseas - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Chris,

    You say "JESUS used the NAMES you have listed here in your prior posts speaking with His disciples or the people", but it is not true, it's fake of course. Actually you are stealthy preaching a false interpretation, your preaching is not different such it occurred in ancient event- Genesis 3:1-,a stumbling block for them which unfortunatelly may come to "eat" from you false testimony- Matthew 15:19.

    The Word of GOD says not what you are saying. Now, now, the Word is GOD Himself, and He has only one NAME, ONLY AND ONLY ONE NAME,and His only NAME is not any of those which you have surreptitiously listed here as NAMES of GOD. Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock- Genesis 3:1-, not from GOD's perspective- Matthew 16:23.

    DIALOGUE BETWENN THE JEWS AND JESUS-Jo.8-41-45KJV

    41 - The Jews said unto JESUS: We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

    42-44 -> 42 -JESUS said to the Jews:- If GOD were your Father ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God;neither came I of myself, but he sent me. (If??? hum!)

    43 - JESUS said to the Jews: Why do ye not understand my speech? 44- JESUS openly and emphaticaly said to the Jews: Ye are of your father the Devil.

    Every names you have listed are NAMES of the God of the Jews, NAMES od their father (as they said he is- John 8:41). But JESUS claried unto them their father is the Devil, whose NAMES you listed before:

    By the way, in Re.12:9, JESUS said:And the great Dragon(the red Dragon)was (will be)cast out, that old serpent,called the Devil,and Satan,which deceiveth the whole world:he was cast out into the earth,and his messengers were cast out with him.

    By the way,"red Dragon" is the new name of the Devil in this current time of Apocalypse.

    Isa.9:6-For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His NAME shall be called THE MIGHTY GOD -JESUS-, Wonderful, Counsellor, The everlasting FATHER, The Prince of Peace.
  • Bennymkje - 11 months ago
    Re..3:20-22 "Knock" (2 of 2)

    "My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work." If Jesus says he has to finish his work we can be certain how he does it shall be to perfection to which we are in full agreement. This is what faith with works would mean.

    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." ( John 14:12) We know that Jesus ascended to his Father for a reason and His promise of a helper was to enable us to do much more by abiding in him. "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."(10:16)

    Jesus sets an open door before the church of Philadelphia. Similarly he is seated on the right hand of God so what he says is as,"he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;"(3:7). It evokes his promise as the Son of man, "Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."(Matt.18:18). This is how we ought to view of our authority as abiding in our Savior Lord. Our Faith with works is to say Amen to His sovereignty over our bodies, both spiritual bodies as well as mortal bodies So what Jesus meant by finishing his works is it not feeding our spiritual bodies as well? Only when Christ seated on the throne says, "It is done" his works shall be finished.(Re.21:6a)

    He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.(v.22). All his promises are for saints called to be overcomers. "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."( John 10:16) This is also part of his work.

    Lastly in v.21 we have two thrones mentioned referring to the throne of God and of the Lamb.(Re.22:1)
  • Bennymkje - 11 months ago
    Re.3:20-21 "Knock" (1 of 2)

    The knock mentioned here is different from this verse."Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:"(Matt.7-8) Jesus here mentions the door to salvation. " and to him that knocketh it shall be opened." The next verse sets this in context. "Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?" Jesus is referring to his Father who is in heaven while what Jesus refers in the key verse is the door to the heart of a believer who is saved but is yet to be counted as an overcomer.

    The Lord is my shepherd (Ps.23:1) In the Gospel of John we see the same idea put in context of the Father Son relationship. Jesus as the Word become flesh is the Good Shepherd so when he claimed, "I am the way" it explains why his Father sent him to the world. "But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep."( John 10:2). So his authority is as that of the legitimate, the only one whose actions are taken in truth."I am the truth" explains this aspect As the faithful witness and true he promises to all seven churches, where he stands. He demands his rightful place in their heart, a spiritual space, representing the face upon which the Spirit moved before the commencement of the creation. "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.(Ge.1:2b)

    "if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." (3:20)

    In the Matthew quote, salvation dealt with ask, seek and knock. The door accordingly opened a straight and narrow path for the seeker to find his pasture. Here Jesus Christ in his majesty offers a supper set in an intimate one to one basis."I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture." This pasture is doing the will of God so meat and drink refers a life in heavenly places. "My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work."
  • Bennymkje - 11 months ago
    Re.3:7-8 "Open door"

    "I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door,"

    Here Jesus spells out to the church at Philadelphia what he means by works. Jesus in his majesty refers to the word of my patience. One we can speak with authority. He is shown having the key of David. It is a hint to the church his message is as the king of kings so the temporal powers cannot prevail upon them. "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."( John 16:33).Persecution of the church from the Jewish brethren (synagogue of Satan), as as from the Imperial Rome must be set in context of his words of comfort. Jesus addresses them of an open door set before them. It is open and in the context of his assertion,"I am the way" we can rest assured that the door shall never be closed since it is according to the Scriptures. His usage, "Behold" also helps us understand he is the Word become flesh and he is now speaking as the overcomer. What he has opened no power on earth shall close it. He is the Savior of the world.

    "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

    While speaking of patience we have another word of comfort, "In your patience possess ye your souls."( Luke 21:19) Of what worth is your soul and what does the earthly tabernacle signify for you are pendent upon patience which as made manifest in Jesus Christ. It is part of works while you are dead in Christ and abide in him. This is Christian Living. There is no cultural osmosis with the world required. It is a simple question whether one takes the open door. "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture./The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life."
  • Chris - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Oseas. Your question: "from your knowledge you said here the names mentioned above are NAMES of GOD, so I wanted to know which of these NAMES of GOD my Lord JESUS would have manifested to the men?"

    My answer is as given earlier. When Jesus spoke of God, or His Father, or the Lord, those are the Names Jesus used when speaking with His disciples or the people. I have still not been able to discern a straight answer from you regarding God's Name. The closest I see from your response, is that Jesus manifested God's Name as the "Word". I agree, that Jesus was God's Word in the Flesh which clearly implies that both the Word & the Spirit are within the Godhead & sent out from God, but did Jesus ever proclaim/manifest God's Name to the people as "The Word" (Logos)? No. He brought out God's Word & taught it, but never said that the Word was God's Name. The Apostle John did declare in John 1:1, that "the Word was God", but Jesus never proclaimed it as God's Name. If anything be said about the Word, it is Jesus' Name, the Word of God. And if the Name of God (Theos) is Logos, then it must also be Hagion Pneuma (Holy Spirit). Here then is the One God, Theos.

    So, I assume that you have no answer to give me, whether Jesus is seated at the right Hand of the Father, or there is only Jesus present in Heaven. Your answer should be: 1. Yes, Jesus is seated at the Father's right Hand, or 2. No, only Jesus is there. Is this too difficult to answer, rather than going into a tirade that the evidences of God's Name in the OT are kabbalistic, devilish names?
  • Richard H Priday - 11 months ago
    Proverbs 29:1 KJ21 He that, being often reproved, stiffeneth his neck shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

    This is the fate of all the unregenerate who do not repent. A prime example is Pharoah during Moses' extensive dialogue with him warning of his fate defying God's will when it came to the sacrifice that his people desired in the desert. One should note that it was only requested for a short trip for this ceremony at first but eventually Pharoah drove them out and yet once again attempted to capture them to enslave them before his armies were destroyed in the Red Sea. Pharoah himself may not have been there but it seems his fate was sealed.

    We see evidences such as 2 Chronicles 13:10-13 where Manasses repented after doing horrible abominations in the land; but we also see verses that state that even though they pray to God those devoted to destruction will not be heard ( Jeremiah 11:11 and Micah 3:4).

    In seeing these examples; we ought to not test God as they were warned in the wilderness. We are warned not to rebuke a fool either ( Prov. 9:8). We should listen to God the first time; and realize that He chastens all He loves; and the opposite therefore indicates that without that discipline we are not His own as we see comparing Peter in the Bible to Judas Iscariot. All of us have a death sentence due to sin; but some choose to come to their end sooner through particularly evil lifestyles and behaviors.

    No amount of pride brings joy; and our minds can only find solace in being left alone in our state once we have lost all pleasure in worldly things due to aging. Proverbs 5:14 talks about being almost in ruin in the congregation due to sins; but that is preferable to pining away alone; for Solomon saw this reality also in Ecclesiastes seeing that all things apart from God were vanity. In short; a saved man sees His old life crucified; new life in Christ and the Body of believers his adopted family (see Ephesians 1:23).
  • Oseas - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Chris, my belief regarding JESUS sat at the right hand of the Father, it is not by your very poor testimony of Him, but by the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD Himself, GOD the Father, understand? Hebrews 1:1-3 among other biblical references.Take a look. The testimony of the Word -the Word is GOD - it is greater than yours, understand? Or isn't it?

    You called God "(Theos); Father (Patter;Abba-more intimate); Lord(Kurios), well, by the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, you are saying nothing, your testimony about GOD in your post is irrelevant, insignificant, it was not by the Spirit of Christ, and it was not by the Spirit of Truth and John 16:12-15 confirm / endorse what I am just saying. Unfortunately you keep snaking in devilish doctrines and tares sowed by the Wicked one. --> By the way, "It is GOD that sitteth upon the circle of the Earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers- Isaiah 40:22. Indeed, this revelation which GOD did give to Isaiah explains or suggests why there is not Life in whole Universe except in the Earth, I mean out of the Earth there is not in whole Universe the variety of Life that there is in the Earth, because GOD is sat upon the circle of the Earth.

    To finish, you have cited in your posts the NAME of GOD as being the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist JEHOVAH, YAHWEH, YHWH, ADONAI, EL SHADAI, HaSHEM, so I quoted John 17:6 where my Lord JESUS in His prayer said to the Father that He had MANIFESTED His NAME to the MEN that He, GOD the Father, had given to Him, So I asked UNTO you: What is the GOD's NAME my Lord JESUS MANIFESTED to the men?

    Now, now, from your knowledge you said here the names mentioned above are NAMES of GOD, so I wanted to know which of these NAMES of GOD my Lord JESUS would have manifested to the men? The question is mine, not yours, I'm waiting you response.

    Be careful or else get ready
  • Chris - In Reply - 11 months ago
    You've started a new thread, so I trust you've seen the answer I gave you in the other thread. And my answer was: "I can only think of how Jesus spoke about the One Who sent Him. Of course, Jesus called Him, God (Theos); Father (Pater; Abba - more intimate); Lord (Kurios)."

    You've repeated here what you've written previously. So waiting in suspense, I would like to know 'what Name did Jesus manifest of God to men?' I also asked whether you believe that in Heaven right now, the risen Christ sits at the right Hand of God, or whether Jesus is alone in Heaven & God within Him (as I seemed to have understood one of your comments). Thank you.
  • Oseas - 11 months ago
    Chris and Bennymkje

    Let's speak of the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, the Word is GOD Himself, understand? I quoted to you and to ALL what my Lord JESUS said in His PRAYER to the Father. JESUS said to GOD the Father: John 17:6 - " I have MANIFESTED thy NAME unto the MEN which thou GAVEST me out of the WORLD: thine they were, and thou gavest them me;and they -the MEN- have kept thy Word.

    In fact JESUS MANIFESTED the NAME of GOD to the MEN. Your answer is an announcement, a declaration, or even clearly leaves a CONFESSION that you DO NOT KNOW the NAME of GOD the Father, NAME MANIFESTED unto the MEN by my Lord JESUS.

    So, in a defensive position because you don't have an answer within the Scriptures, you come in unpolished manner to tell me that I "cannot be more in the know of Name than the Son". What you said is fake. What matters and prevails is what my Lord JESUS said: Matthew 11:27 - "No MAN knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any MAN the Father, save the Son,and he to whomsoever the Son will REVEAL Him. As you and ALL can see, it is by REVELATION,not by speculations, presumptions, and so on.

    Your answer is an announcement, a declaration, or even clearly leaves a CONFESSION that you DO NOT KNOW the NAME of GOD the Father, NAME MANIFESTED by my Lord JESUS unto the MEN.

    Furthermore, you cited the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist NAMES of GOD (this is a blaspheme), such as JEHOVAH, YAHWEH, YHWH, ADONAI, EL SHADAI, HaSHEM as if were the NAMES OF"GOD",but there are more esoteric and kabbalistic names of"GOD" besides these, according the devilish esoteric and kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism,and you believe in this satanic doctrine and testify and spread their idolatries and sorceries here.

    My Lord JESUS said: "No MAN knoweth the Son,but the Father; neither knoweth any MAN the Father,save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will REVEAL Him. As you and ALL can see, it is by REVELATION only, exclusively.

    Wake up, it's midnight
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Hi Oseas,

    You ought to know the Bible as it is intended to be understood. You ask "what GOD's NAME was manifested by my Lord JESUS?"

    You cannot be more in the know of Name than the Son. My Father and I are one" DNA of the Father was in his Son so he obeyed him which is what you ought to be doing than nit-picking. We are concerned with holiness of God no amount of your name calling shall help if you do not abide in the Son and learn of him.
  • Chris - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Well Oseas, I can only think of how Jesus spoke about the One Who sent Him. Of course, Jesus called Him, God (Theos); Father (Pater; Abba - more intimate); Lord (Kurios).
  • Bennymkje - 11 months ago
    "Esau"

    The will of God is complete so His calling is for every one who is set in context of his Son who is the firstborn of all creation. Who has heard the call and lives in lockstep with him is a double for the Son. Joseph was one. He was the last but one among his brethren but it is he who serves as a stand-in for his Son. He became the savior of a nation despite of his being vilely treated by his older siblings. Even so when he presented his sons who were born in Egypt Jacob bypassed the firstborn."And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head."(Ge.48:17-18)

    Esau was the first born,- and yet he despised his birthright. He let go blessings of God which are as special as God's gifts and called are beyond recall, yields the clearest evidence behind the theological term of predestination. As Jesus Christ is established as the firstborn of every creature when God promised His blessings to Abraham, he was seeking co-heirs of promise with his Son. (Ge.12:3; Ro.8:17.) Jacob struggled with Esau who had no sympathy for spiritual gifts and the Holy Ghost provides a concrete imagery in the mess of pottage to explain his least regard for things of God.

    " Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob. And I hated Esau,(Mal.1:2-3)

    "For ye know how afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected; for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it diligently with tears." (He.12:17-KJ21). Here we have a commentary by divine revelation that contrition without works is useless.

    Now from two examples of Esau and Manasseh they being firstborn did not pass muster with the divine Will. Predestination explains why anyone is blessed in his Son. He is the Father of mercies. But becoming firstborn is to be led by the same Spirit of Christ. Joseph showed the same spirit to counted as the double.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Greetings Chris

    My Lord JESUS / JOSHUA manefested the name of GOD.

    Chris and all, what GOD's NAME was manifested by my Lord JESUS?
  • Bennymkje - 11 months ago
    "Envy"

    Grace and truth came with Jesus Christ. He became poor in order to make us rich. St Paul speaks of being complete in him. "And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power." (Col.2:10). This being the case what this world can counteroffer and Satan tempted Jesus with "all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;/And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me./ Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." (Matt.4:8-9). When we are complete in him it is not merely of a state of being with senses giving certain cues of a world that changes ever subtle shifts so whosoever builds his hopes shall be like the foolisher builder who built his house upon the sand. He offered instead everlasting life in which God is one, "that God may be all in all." This is what the Spirit of God establishes as holiness to which man shall only enter through his Son. This is the spirit of Christ or grace operates upon all without exception so the same DNA of faith has its perfect working.

    "Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?"(He.10:29)

    Envy is the sum total of false estimation of one's worth. Revolt of Korah was against God's administration. Earlier Miriam murmured, "Has he not spoken through us also?" Miriam envied Moses as Korah would later show. He and sons of Levi led a faction, Miriam and Korah were punished for it. They were moved by the spirit of Satan who is the father of lies. In short envy in to divide and bring damage to the working of divine Will.


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