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I met a man today begging on a street corner , we got into a discussion about God , He said we are all God because we are in Gods image .

I tried to explain that an image is a likeness , not the actual thing . He said he had catholic training and knew the Bible .

He could not understand or refused to , it ended our conversation . He was getting angry .

If i take a photo of you its an image of you and a likeness of you it does not show all of you but its easy to see its an image of you only . But its not you in real life its less than you , but it is an image .

So the image never can be more than an image . There are many in the image of God yet only One God . Thats what Jesus meant when he said to the pharisee that ye are gods , because they are made in the image of God , not actually God only ONE GOD. Father of all ....

Hello, maybe your following assumption is at the heart of the difference: "In the fact that Satan is the God of this present world makes him omnipresent he is in everymans Seed"

Is your assumption true and will scripture validate or invalidate this?

Job 1:6-12 - this says satan has limited power.

John 12:31 - Jesus calls satan prince of the world.

These verses don't say he is omnipresent or in anyone's seed.

What verse do you use as your source for your seed belief and what makes you so confident in this that you're willing to spread around this information to convince people that this is true? What if it isn't?

LOL. You are a joy to me :)

Matthew 19 (See Matt 5 also)

3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for Every cause?

4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, ( Genesis 2:23-24) that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?

8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the BEGINNING it was not so.

9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

[Wesley's Notes for Deuteronomy 24:1 Mosaic Law for Divorce]

Some uncleanness - Some hateful thing, some distemper of body or quality of mind not observed before marriage: or some light carriage, as this phrase commonly signifies, but not amounting to adultery. Let him write - This is not a command as some of the Jews understood it, nor an allowance and approbation, but merely a permission of that practice for prevention of greater mischiefs, and this only until the time of reformation, till the coming of the Messiah when things were to return to their first institution and purest condition.

As a Christian you are called to be at peace with everyone. Talk to your Pastor & give details. If not him, get a Christian Counselor. You'll feel better what you decide to do. Come back here for emotional support.

My advice: live single for a year; no dating. Build friendships within the Church now. Separation may be

Preferable during this process.

The word "Bible" isn't in the Bible either.

Alex, I do not concur with you as to Satan being in everyone nor omnipresent. The Scripture does not say either of these things. So, that being said, I will exit this thread as I do not wish to continue.

It is as scripture says. Trust in that. I asked God about that years ago. He said it will not be by deceit. We will have to consent to Antichrist's mark. It will be taken so one may access their money in the one world bank.

We have to deal with that question now. Cash and coin money will be outlawed.

People may barter for food with gold, silver or gems? Trying to survive Worldwide Implosion. It's going to last

3 1/2 years. That's a long long time. Lots of people will be hunting in the woods; or looting the people for the deer they shot, or water.

Take yourself out of that scenario NOW. Technology now is mind-boggling. AC (Antichrist) will have armed silent drones in that forest; connected to satellites that track heat signatures on the ground. Survival will be tragic.

The Bible says large land and sea animals will attack and kill humans/ they will no longer fear humans. We are their food, then.

It's not a "hunger games" real life, kind of game. It's not a real life VIDEO game you're really good at. It's everybody hunting you and your family.

Speaking of drugs_diabetics do not carry 3 1/2 years worth of medications. People have been cannibals in history. Something no one speaks of anymore.

If weather changed and became very cold, then what? People will move down south. It's getting "dark" out there. This earth is going to be cleansed with FIRE.

2 Peter 3.

God created Earth in 6 days. Why can you not feel assured that God can re-create it again? He says that is his plan. All the scars, pollution and ugliness man has built on earth will be erased and made new again. God has promised!! We will be working with angels in the rebuilding program. Our bodies will be resurrection bodies; strong, not diseased, weak or ill. We'll have the mind of Christ.

GIVE YOUR LIFE TO JESUS TODAY. Receive His salvation today. Live it. God can show up the second they launch a nuke at Israel. Don't Procrastinate.

Mishael

Good Evening, Mishael.

It is true that the word Trinity is not a word in the Bible, but Godhead is used to identify the triunity of God.

The word 'Rapture' is not in the Bible either, but it describes what happens to believers when Jesus comes back for them.

The word Trinity is used by many denominations other than the Catholic Chruch. It is misleading to imply that it is only a "Catholic" term.

For me, I use the term Trinity and Godhead interchangeably. I understand that some who do not believe that the Godhead is three distinct Persons but only one God may object to the term. Or others, who have a distaste for anything that appears to be Catholic may object to it. I understand that. But i do think we need to speak as objectively as we can when discussing terms.

But, if you prefer to use the word Godhead instead of Trinity, that is great! But those who use the word Trinity should be given respect as most on here know that it refers to the word Godhead of the Scriptures that say "Godhead".

Mishael, you so often have many good things to say on this forum. I am grateful for all you contribute.

JONAH 2

7 When my soul fainted within me I remembered the LORD: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.

8 They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.

9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.

10 And the LORD spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.

No. Jonah did not go to hell. Scripture says he'll is empty. All people who die (wherever that happened);

their grave is where the body or remains are.

They are as the Bible says: SLEEPING.

Jonah was not happy to be called to deliver a message from God. Disgruntled, he was taken on a cruise in the belly of a whale; so he could rethink his objections

The whale vomits him in the beach. He's bleached white from the gastric liquids of the whale. He has seaweed all over & some other stuff :/

A Ninevite fisherman sees this horror and Jonah says REPENT. He continues to Nineveh and delivers Gods message. They repented from top to bottom: people, donkeys, cats, dogs. They all got saved.

Jonah goes back out to the beach and proceeds to grumble to himself under a shrub. While he's asleep, God in his kindness makes leaves grow on the shrub to shade Noah.

It makes me think of the Book of Jeremiah (the weeping prophet), when he spoke of the heart of God to those stubborn non-repentant Israelites. It makes me cry.

I love stories even better where you can see the merciful heart of God.

Where does the Bible talk about chain letters.

One of the shortest verses in the bible, Luke 17:32 "Remember Lot's wife." Lot's wife was saved, until at the last minute when she decided to turn around, why she turned around, we don't know, but she did, Genesis 19:26. The devil is in the world constantly tempting us until our last breath, as in Judas who was with Jesus for his entire earthly ministry, or as in

Luke 23:39-43, the one thief on the cross (whom I believe) was the devil tempting Jesus to come down from the cross and save himself, and the other thief on the cross rebuking him and saying that they deserved their punishment, and then asking Jesus to remember him, one was saved one wasn't. This is why it's so important to put on the whole armour of God as in

Ephesians 6:11-19,

Genesis 19:26 "But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt."

Alex, I do appreciate your knowledge and willingness to teach everyone that enter these rooms with questions.

Tedious as it was, I made myself read through history that began a line of Churches called, Catholic. My question was, why not just Christian?

I dated someone who was Catholic. We eventually broke up because I was not going to convert to that faith. To my Baptist perception, that Church was a lot of ritual and I was banned from communion even though I was born again. We separated as friends because of this. There was no compromise.

Years later, as a street preacher, I often saw Catholic teenagers drive by their Catholic Church shouting the priests name and waving their beer bottles at the Church.

Rather than take "the offense", I chose to give this matter to Jesus to carry for me; so I could be available to everyone I met on a sidewalk. Judge not.

That has been my stance for 36 years. I can't preach Christ and Him crucified and get dragged into divisions and controversy. The Bible teaches against that.

All I can say about this, is the words: "Trinity and Triune" are not in the King James Bible. According to Revelation 22, I cannot ADD or SUBTRACT any words from this Bible. I must let the Lord himself, sort this out.

The one question I ask myself when issues arise, "what does this have to do with a person being born again?"

Thank you for the reply, but the King James uses the word IN, not On, the NLT uses the word On.

I love to study the word of God to have a relationship with him

David,

I don't see anything that would have me to believe that Jonah went to Hell. Here's what I get out of that passage and how it might relate to us today. What I see is that God has a will and a purpose for everything He does. He told Jonah to go to Nineveh. You see, God had a purpose for Jonah. But what did Jonah do? He said, (and I am paraphrasing here), "I'm not going to Nineveh, I'm going the opposite direction. It was God's will that Jonah go to Nineveh and since it was God's will and Jonah went against it, Jonah ended up being spit out of the mouth of a great fish. Guess where Jonah ended up? Right there on the shore of Nineveh.

You see, it's the same for us today. Whatever God's will is for us, whatever God wants us to do, He will make it happen one way or another. We cannot fight against God's will and expect to win that battle!

Amen! Very well stated Brother Jesse!!

I am so sorry. I should have proofread my post more carefully before hitting the submit button. The next part of the verse says "Mind not high things," not "Do not mind not high things" which makes a big difference!

Ronnie,

When there is a difference in words between various English translations, where in this case one version says "in" and the other says "on," we sometimes have to wonder what the true meaning is. I agree there is a difference between in and on. What I do when I come to places in scripture like this is I go to the original language because what we have in whatever English bible we are using is a translation. Even our beloved KJV is a translation. So what does the original text say? I look this verse up ( Revelation 13:16) in the Greek text and it uses the word EPI (pronounced EH-PEE). So the King James translation is correct by using the word on because that's what the original text says. The Greek word used for "in" is EN (pronounced AIN), but EN is not used in Verse 16.

Hope this helps!

I once found a church on internet that was full of christians, thousands of them. OK I said to myself let me listen what they preach. Everything I heard was about money. Do this, do that and God will blless you, you will get more money, you will get a promotion, you will get a new house, a new car and so on. People attending the service seemed to be sooo happy, they were smiling and cheering all the time. Then I looked for that church in wikipedia. As you can understand it was a church teaching the gospel of prosperity. The pastor lives in a multi million house. Well he probably thought if that is what people like to hear let them hear it and pay for it.

Now as far as miracles are concerned I may disagree with you. Just look at the Book of Acts. On Pentecost thousands believed because they heard the tongues. After that thousands again believed when Petsr healed that disabled man in Solomon's Temple. Then Philip goes to Samaria and thousands believe when seeing the miracles he performed. Same with Cornelious, same with apostle Paul, same with Sergius Paulus and so on. If there weren't miracles the preaching of Gospel wouldn't have such results. I think this is what we lack in and need nowadays. God has to show His power, has to recommend His people, otherwise people don't believe in God. Modern times are the times that Science has become the new Idol. People believe everything that scientists say, right and wrong. That sometime long ago a sponge become a monkey who became a man and here we are, billions of people, a huge civilizarion, billions of books, maths, physics, chemistry, mechanics ..from a monkey. They really believe that. My brother, only the power of God can change that Please recall that in the time of antichrist the 2 martyrs will perform miracles, an angel will preach from the sky. It is the only way that people will get up from their sleep. That is what we pray for over here where I live, and we have promises that God will gift His Church

GBU brother

No where in the Bible does it say satan is inside everyone.

When Jesus met the woman by the well. John Chap. 4,, He told her thou hast had 5 husbands and the man you're shacked up with now is not your husband. She Said, I Percive You are a Prophet. He just read her emails, seen her Facebook profile. But there wasn't such a thing then. If you read the Bible it was always prevalent that you be married before relations in the Marriage, or no sex before marriage. When Mary the earthly Mother of Christ was conceived by The Holy Ghost.

The Bible said Joseph being a just man, a good,upright man married her. She was His Fiance, but now she is pregnant out of Wedlock. But God dealt with Him,and He knew She would be a outcast or even stoned.

Paul talking about Marraige said it is better to Marry than to Burn, burn what? To burn in lust, desire. And then he told The Church that Adulters, those who mess around on their spouses and Fornicators, those who have Sex outside of Marriage,,,shall not inherit,or enter The Kingdom of God.

So with all due respect, if you want a roommate, and you sleep on the couch or in another bed in a completely platonic relationship. But if not, then You need to bring This Relationship into The Blessing of God. I guarantee You, that You will be happier and more content. Just Knowing that What God hath Joined together,,, says it all. Amen

Mikey Out. Oooooh Yeah!!!!!

Amen, Brother Jesse!

Dear Mishael.

Thanks for your reply.

I know the verses you mentioned. I wasn't trying to understand the nature of God, just trying to find an analogy of the Trinity in the physical world. So I came up with the jewel..

Now, let's talk about the word Trinity. Why do I think that your dislike for the word Trinity is not due to the word itself but due to its use by the RCatholic church, isn't that true? But the term Trinity was not invented by the RCatholics but by the ancient church in its struggle against the first heresies appeared from inside the church itself, like Arianism and others that described Jesus as only man or as only God, or teaching that God is one person that appears sometimes as Father, other times as Son or Holly Spirit. There is 17-18 centuaries history behind that word. So finally the ancient church came up with the term "Agia Trias' which is Greek for "Holly Trinity" as a term to say that God is one but 3 persons at the same time.

Then it was translated in Latin and later on in other languages. In Greece it is used extensively by all denominations, reborn christians as well.

Personally I don't stick to it although to be honest I like it, I may use any other word that describes the nature of God accurately. I dont mind using the word Godhead or anything else. Never heard of the word Godhead before since it is the first time I joined an English speaking christian forum here. Anyway thanks for replying.

Have a nice day. God Bless You

Ezekiel said in Chap. 18. That the son shall not bear the sins of his Father. Whether others believe in it or not. I believe in Generational Curses. How many times have you heard someone say, there just like their Father or Mother. And it's usually not in a good way either. If they Drink,smoke,do drugs,sleep around,blow their money. Many times the Children will continue on in the same pattern. It takes a made up mind and the Blood. God said if you continue in my ,stay in my Ways. I will bless your Children unto the 4th generation. There is great benefit for your Children when you Serve God. If they are born or live in a Godless House, they face a Uphill Battle. Enoch was Raptured, he walked so close to God. God took him. But He lived 65 years without God, but when He that Baby Methusalah. It made Him realize how much He,his Family and his son needed God. And his son lived 969 years because of his walk. Back to Ezekiel,, He said The Son,daughter shall not carry,bear the sins of the Father. And vice-versa, for the Father,Mothers. There are a lot of Parents asking what they did wrong, because of Children acting out. Ezekiel says we are all responsible for our own sin. No one will stand in front of God and say I lived like the devil,lied,cheated, etc,,, because of my Parents. I understand they can influence it, sometimes leave Children no choice but to do so just to survive. But they have to make it right with God. I often pass Families with coolers and Towels, umbrellas, I see them coming in and out of the Stores. All on my way to Church. And that Father means well, He is trying to spend time with His Family. Which is required. But if you really want to invest in your children, take them somewhere special. Take then to The House of God.

Mikey Out. Oooooh Yeah!!!!

Did Jonah go to hell. What does this passage have to do with us this era that we are in. Did Jonah go to hell

Hiya Mishael...But the Godhead is simply three...All the way back to the Ark of the Covenant The Father dwelt between the 2 Cherubim of GLORY Thus there were 3 in the most Holy Place...And Moses didn't build the ARK OF THE COVENANT BY any man made plans...God told Moses see that you build the ark from what was shown you on the Mount when he was with God for 40 days...So this precious Godhead ( the trinity ) has absolutely nothin to do with the Catholic Church...Only in the minds of some folks that hate the Godhead the trinity say this...When God told Moses that his name was Abraham Issac and Jacob and my memorial to all generations..Just as Abraham offered up his only son Issac God Almighty offered up his only Son Christ Jesus..And just as Abraham was multiplied as the sands of the seas, God Almighty is gonna be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thats y Jesus is saying that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit which is the H.G. The Children of Promise..THAT ISRAEL OF GOD which are spirits the H.G. PLURAL..As the stars of heaven which is the contents of the Book in the Father right hand..And that is y we must be born from above...Just as there was a natural Israel there has to be an Israel of God which is the H.G. That heavenly Jacob in Isaiah 49.

...When Jesus said whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth me...Thats the H.G the child of PROMISE THE ISRAEL OF GOD...They don't refer to Jesus as the bridegoom for nothin...He is gonna sire an Israel of God in humanity...As the field is the world..When God changed Jacobs name to Israel it was prophetic the H.G. TH 3 RD PERSON WD BE ISRAEL of GOD.

....Not only does God want a new covenant he wants a new ISRAEL MADE UP OF ALL PPL BY THE SEED OF Christ sown in their hearts...a new innerman which is spirit the H.G. PLURAL that is gona be as the stars of heaven in multitudes...As i will pour out my Spirit on all flesh which is the H.G the Children of PROMISE....An Israel of God via the seed of Christ Jesus

I like it too dear Donna. But the problem with the egg is that each part of it is not inside the other, they are separate, so I tried to find another analogy and came back with the jewel. GBU

Minor correction:

Instead of "Your attitude and my identification is with those who are lowly, that have nothing," I meant to say our attitude and our identification is with those who are lowly, that have nothing."

in Romans 13:1 it says the powers that be are ordained by God. Those powers meaning, the government. Throughout scripture, we are admonished to obey the law. From Genesis to Revelations, we are told about law and what governs our hearts and minds. This being said, If the government doesn't recognize the marriage as being legit. Then it's not in the eyes of God.

I would Pray I or you never get the chance to ask Judas Iscariot. The Bible said Christ handpicked him, anointed him to heal and to cast out devils. I'm sorry for the Once Saved, always Saved Crowd, but Jesus made it very plain. Devils can't cast out devils. But Judas coveted that Money, 30 pieces of silver. And then that dark night ,last supper, The Bible says ,,Satan entered into him.

How many times have I or you heard, and Judas was never even saved. Then how did Satan enter in if he was already there? Hmmmm,,, Let's see,,, oh yeah , he backsliding and God left him. Acts said he died and went to his own place. Interpretation is this,, He made his choice,, he walked with God and lost out. Revelations says, because of neither being warm or cold, but tepid, lukewarm. It was sickening to God. You were in my Body, The Body of Christ, but I couldn't keep you down. So I literally vomited, threw you up. To get you out of my Body, The Body.

What of King Saul, a Prophet, a great physical specimen, a man that is touched by God. A gifted man, a man that God gives a group of men to help him who have been anointed by God. But the Bible says The Spirit of The Lord departed from him. It left him, and a demon prophesied over him, that He and his sons would soon join him in He'll.

Sampson ,The Bible said,played around with the gifts of God, that there came a Day in his Cockiness , He said " I'll go out as other times, sing today, teach,preach,shout, you better watch out. It's showtime at the Appolo. But then it said He knew not, that the Spirit of the Lord had departed from Him, left him. But in this instance, and Praise God, no matter how far or deep I or you fall. All that call upon The Lord Shall be Saved!!! But how many will call on him, even in the Church.

Sampson said, Lord avenge me and strengthen me just one more time. And he REPENTED. That's all it takes when Christians fall, sin, Godly Repentance. And God restored Sampson, and he died there with God