They shall not need a man to sit on the throne for Jesus shall be on the throne. No more sacrifice of animals for jesus will be our sacrifice. In conclusion the chapter is a all about the finished work of jesus for new church.
Apparently , Rolls Royce are touting for investment in order to build a nuclear power plant on the moon ! Now that sounds like a great idea doesn't it ? We humans really do think that we own this world don't we ? Please come back soon Jesus , save us from ourselves and each other ever so soon please.
Ok.We all know in the garden Eve had two sons, Cain and Abel.and Adam is said to be their father. My question is when we read the descendents of Adam Genesis 5, why is Cain and Abel not mentioned? Why are they by passed and it starts with Seth?
Part 2..that they are not gods at all. Acts 19:26 says also that the gods of pagans are not gods at all.
So, Ruby, just because people and idols are called gods in the Bible does not indicate that they truly are.
Isaiah 44:6, 8 and 43:10 say that YHWH alone is God, there is no other, and, that He knows no other god but Himself, neither was there any god formed before Him, nor will there be any god formed after Him. So, gods cannot be created. This is plain by these verses.
Ruby are you willing to attest to the truth of these words or not? If you say, yes there are other gods beside YHWH then you are speaking untruth against the Most High God.
Gettig back to John 10 where the Pharisees and priests accused Jesus of blasphemy because He claimed to be God by sayig He was the Son of God.
Jesus cites Psalm 82:7 as an attack against these religious leaders who, like the judges in Psalm 82:7, thought that they were gods before the people because of their position of authority. He was rebuking them His response is a retort. he was very angry at them. He was attesting to the fact that the judges spoken of in Psalm 82:7 were evil and corrupt, though the were termed as 'gods' (leaders. judges standing in for God) Can one who is evil be a god?
Jesus was pointing out the ludicrousness of the religious leaders who believed that since Psalm 82:7 calls the judges 'gods' then they must truly be gods, because the Scripture cannot be broken. They refused to submit to the whole counsel of Scriptures to admit that there truly is only one God, no others.
They did not want to admit that Jesus was the Son of God (which is an expression of Deity) but instead accused Him of blasphemy for making Himself to be God. They were blinded, as Jesus said many times, from seeing and believing the truth of Whom Jesus truly was.
I and Chris have addressed this Scripture on several occasions before using Scripture and Scriptural context to explain what Jesus was meaning when ....
It looks like the thread you addressed me on has been closed t further comment. So, I will respond with a new thread.
I am happy to bring Scriptures to this conversation. But before I do, please answer me yes or no: Are you Earl Bowman?
If you do not answer this question of mine with a yes or a no, then I will know that you are a deceiver.
As to your inquiry about Psalm 82:1-6 and Jesus' usage of this Psalm in John 10:35. The context of this verse in psalms is a reference to the judges of Israel that were appointed to make judgements for the people when they had a legal matter to bring forward to resolve.
God, in this Psalm is rebuking these judges (and any leader) because they judged sinfully. They favored those who oppressed and did wickedly and would not defend or uphold the cause of the widows, orphans, and poor, but instead made judgments against these who needed right judgements and mercy. God does not speak of them favorably in this psalm.
It does say that "ye are gods" and the meaning of this is not that they are truly gods, but those who sit in the place of the only true God when they pass their judgments. Therefore, the only True God expects them to judge with justice and righteouosness, but they did not. They judged sinfully, therefore, this iniquity proves that they are not truly gods.
The Bible speaks of gods as referring to those that pagans worship. Are these gods truly gods since Scripture calls them such?
Exodus 12:12 says that God will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. Are these gods real or idols/false gods?
Exodus 23:13 God says to not invoke the names of their (Israelites) other gods. Were these other gods truly gods or were they false gods/idols?
Joshua 24:14 God instructs Joshua to tell the Israelites to throw away the gods of their fathers. Were these gods truly gods or were they false gods/idols?
I could list many more Scriptures where God speaks of other gods, but it is clear they are not gods. Jer. 2:11 ...
There is an obvious common thread in "new age" thinking: that the body is of utmost importance. This is obvious of the world in general. Yet it is unambiguous to me that the body plays a big part in orthodox Christian circles. Therefore it is obvious that new age and Christian thinking have a lot in common. I've respectfully made it clear over the months that bodies are not my reality and that spirit IS. I put No faith in the body. It is not life. You may want to consider refraining from associating me with that label without first associating it with yours and many churches' system of thought.
You are also referring to my thought system as dualistic, which I find a bit comical, because I believe I'm the only one on this site that believes opposites cannot coexist in reality, including the Mind Of God. Opposites entail the belief in TWO, i.e. dual, dualistic, duality, separated, split, opposing. I've clearly expressed that opposing, dualistic thoughts are not in the Mind of God and He does not change His Mind back and forth between opposites. His thinking is always certain, and therefore dependable. How else could we come to know Him if it wasn't? In this way God is ONE Minded. Yet your words and the words constantly splattered on this site obviously reflect a dual minded God. Again, whether or not you agree with me or not on issues, please consider using the dualism label on yourself and others before claiming it for me.
Please take this as a suggestion out my respect for you and others reading and commenting. Please know there is no anger or negative emotions in the above words. You and others have the perfect right and free will to continue to use these labels as you see fit, as I realize anything you say to me and others is out of love and concern.
The thread I commented on yesterday won't allow more comments due to the thread being a month old, although it doesn't appear to me to be that old. No big deal.
Hi Adam. Rest easy, my intent is not to provoke. I believe my comments and questions to be sincere and reasonable. Also, I will never deny Jesus was murdered in the form of crucifixion.
Hi Ruby Lea Read,
In answer to your first question: No, Christ is not a "BODY of Flesh and Bone." Christ is God's Holy Son as He created him, and Spirit gives birth to spirit. And we are the Christ in us. If Christ was a body, His flesh and bones wouldn't fit well in our body. The Body of Christ should not be considered as anything physical. God is Spirit, therefore, the Christ in us is spiritual. And this "in us" is not our body, including the brain because the brain is part of the physical. The Father, Son (Christ), and Holy Spirit, being One, are in our mind. The body of Jesus should not be taken as something in our mind, but instead His spirit. The flesh profiteth NOTHING.
I attest to your choice of using the word "appear" on numerous occasions. Please consider that reality is changeless; it is this that which makes it real and keeps it separate from all APPEARANCES. Reality cannot change. All appearances can change because they ARE appearances, and cannot have the changelessness reality entails. In the synoptics, Jesus APPEARED unto Mary. The appearance of the body of Jesus appeared as flesh and bones, yet His reality was spirit. Reality and appearances can only exist in a confused mind, but not in reality. The same principle applies to all opposites, i.e. light and darkness, everything and nothing. Be thankful this is true, or the Mind of God would not be Pure and Holy if opposition (opposites) existed in His Mind. God is not dual minded, which brings me to GiGi.
The truth of the scripture can be uncomfortable for some to admit.
Some people are claiming all kinds of anti-Biblical things by cherry picking some verses they like, ignoring others, and then building a false religion around one verse. For example the metaphor about being children and gods. The children part is less popular, but they like the gods one, then expand and use that premise to glue other misinterpreted pieces of scripture together to make a nice fake religion that is exactly what satan wants. He wants people to be deceived and think they can be like god. That's the same way Adam and Eve were deceived in the original sin.
It's shocking what I read sometimes how people's ears are so easily tickled by the lies, and the truth just isn't as welcomed. 2 Timothy 4:3-4. These are dangerous times in the world and Christians are under attack and they don't even realize it. Some have turned from Jesus and are not longer telling the truth, but deceiving on behalf of satan. The clever trick this time is cherry picking metaphors vs what is literal- taking scripture out of context and twisting it until you get the desired outcome. Shame on anyone doing this. May the Holy Spirit convict anyone deceiving others in this way.
I have been thinking today about our dialog on how we each approach and interpret the Bible. I think I've been clear regarding what I believe to be the Biblical approach and have provide some scriptural basis for that belief. So I won't take time to reiterate that here.
I suspect based on our dialog and other comments you have made that you embrace the Dispensational view of the Bible. If I'm incorrect, the rest of what I say here may not apply.
I read what GIGI posted regarding the various tenants of Dispensationalism and I find most of them at first blush unsupportable from the Bible and contrary what God Himself declares as to how we are to approach the Bible.
The idea that God has written certain parts of the Bible to be applicable for certain segments of mankind and not for others, I believe, has the effect of diminishing the authority of the Bible for Mankind in general, and is a view that I could not hold. The Old Testament is equally important for Jews and Gentiles today just as is the New Testament. And each part of the Bible needs to be applied in interpreting every other part of the Bible with that understanding in view.
I know you are familiar with Rev 22:18,19 where God sets very sever penalties for adding to or taking away from the Bible. And I suspect you would agree that recognizing any extra-Biblical writing or proclamation as the Word of God itself and therefore of equal authority as the Bible would be a violation of Rev 22:18.
However, have you given any thought to how the Dispensational approach to the Bible relates to Rev 22:19. That would be a verse I would seriously consider personally if I were deciding on how to interpret the Bible. And it likely would prevent me from adopting the Dispensational view, if GIGI's research is correct. Food for thought.
I wrote a comment earlier today regarding the Book of Hebrews and would be interested in how you approach that Book and some of the things that you believe it is teaching.
Regardless if you believe in God or not, this message is a "must-read"!
Throughout time, we can see how we have been slowly conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that the Bible foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?
In the book of Revelation 13:16-18, it states,
"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."
Referring to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why so? Revelation 13:17 tells us that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!
These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!
This is where it really starts to come together. It is amazing how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here is information from someone named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:
"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying an
i thank olord for given the strenght and power to over come the plans of the enemy amen.
Part 2..that they are not gods at all. Acts 19:26 says also that the gods of pagans are not gods at all.
So, Ruby, just because people and idols are called gods in the Bible does not indicate that they truly are.
Isaiah 44:6, 8 and 43:10 say that YHWH alone is God, there is no other, and, that He knows no other god but Himself, neither was there any god formed before Him, nor will there be any god formed after Him. So, gods cannot be created. This is plain by these verses.
Ruby are you willing to attest to the truth of these words or not? If you say, yes there are other gods beside YHWH then you are speaking untruth against the Most High God.
Gettig back to John 10 where the Pharisees and priests accused Jesus of blasphemy because He claimed to be God by sayig He was the Son of God.
Jesus cites Psalm 82:7 as an attack against these religious leaders who, like the judges in Psalm 82:7, thought that they were gods before the people because of their position of authority. He was rebuking them His response is a retort. he was very angry at them. He was attesting to the fact that the judges spoken of in Psalm 82:7 were evil and corrupt, though the were termed as 'gods' (leaders. judges standing in for God) Can one who is evil be a god?
Jesus was pointing out the ludicrousness of the religious leaders who believed that since Psalm 82:7 calls the judges 'gods' then they must truly be gods, because the Scripture cannot be broken. They refused to submit to the whole counsel of Scriptures to admit that there truly is only one God, no others.
They did not want to admit that Jesus was the Son of God (which is an expression of Deity) but instead accused Him of blasphemy for making Himself to be God. They were blinded, as Jesus said many times, from seeing and believing the truth of Whom Jesus truly was.
I and Chris have addressed this Scripture on several occasions before using Scripture and Scriptural context to explain what Jesus was meaning when ....
It looks like the thread you addressed me on has been closed t further comment. So, I will respond with a new thread.
I am happy to bring Scriptures to this conversation. But before I do, please answer me yes or no: Are you Earl Bowman?
If you do not answer this question of mine with a yes or a no, then I will know that you are a deceiver.
As to your inquiry about Psalm 82:1-6 and Jesus' usage of this Psalm in John 10:35. The context of this verse in psalms is a reference to the judges of Israel that were appointed to make judgements for the people when they had a legal matter to bring forward to resolve.
God, in this Psalm is rebuking these judges (and any leader) because they judged sinfully. They favored those who oppressed and did wickedly and would not defend or uphold the cause of the widows, orphans, and poor, but instead made judgments against these who needed right judgements and mercy. God does not speak of them favorably in this psalm.
It does say that "ye are gods" and the meaning of this is not that they are truly gods, but those who sit in the place of the only true God when they pass their judgments. Therefore, the only True God expects them to judge with justice and righteouosness, but they did not. They judged sinfully, therefore, this iniquity proves that they are not truly gods.
The Bible speaks of gods as referring to those that pagans worship. Are these gods truly gods since Scripture calls them such?
Exodus 12:12 says that God will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. Are these gods real or idols/false gods?
Exodus 23:13 God says to not invoke the names of their (Israelites) other gods. Were these other gods truly gods or were they false gods/idols?
Joshua 24:14 God instructs Joshua to tell the Israelites to throw away the gods of their fathers. Were these gods truly gods or were they false gods/idols?
I could list many more Scriptures where God speaks of other gods, but it is clear they are not gods. Jer. 2:11 ...
Hi GiGi,
There is an obvious common thread in "new age" thinking: that the body is of utmost importance. This is obvious of the world in general. Yet it is unambiguous to me that the body plays a big part in orthodox Christian circles. Therefore it is obvious that new age and Christian thinking have a lot in common. I've respectfully made it clear over the months that bodies are not my reality and that spirit IS. I put No faith in the body. It is not life. You may want to consider refraining from associating me with that label without first associating it with yours and many churches' system of thought.
You are also referring to my thought system as dualistic, which I find a bit comical, because I believe I'm the only one on this site that believes opposites cannot coexist in reality, including the Mind Of God. Opposites entail the belief in TWO, i.e. dual, dualistic, duality, separated, split, opposing. I've clearly expressed that opposing, dualistic thoughts are not in the Mind of God and He does not change His Mind back and forth between opposites. His thinking is always certain, and therefore dependable. How else could we come to know Him if it wasn't? In this way God is ONE Minded. Yet your words and the words constantly splattered on this site obviously reflect a dual minded God. Again, whether or not you agree with me or not on issues, please consider using the dualism label on yourself and others before claiming it for me.
Please take this as a suggestion out my respect for you and others reading and commenting. Please know there is no anger or negative emotions in the above words. You and others have the perfect right and free will to continue to use these labels as you see fit, as I realize anything you say to me and others is out of love and concern.
God Is
Peace be with you.
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The thread I commented on yesterday won't allow more comments due to the thread being a month old, although it doesn't appear to me to be that old. No big deal.
Hi Adam. Rest easy, my intent is not to provoke. I believe my comments and questions to be sincere and reasonable. Also, I will never deny Jesus was murdered in the form of crucifixion.
Hi Ruby Lea Read,
In answer to your first question: No, Christ is not a "BODY of Flesh and Bone." Christ is God's Holy Son as He created him, and Spirit gives birth to spirit. And we are the Christ in us. If Christ was a body, His flesh and bones wouldn't fit well in our body. The Body of Christ should not be considered as anything physical. God is Spirit, therefore, the Christ in us is spiritual. And this "in us" is not our body, including the brain because the brain is part of the physical. The Father, Son (Christ), and Holy Spirit, being One, are in our mind. The body of Jesus should not be taken as something in our mind, but instead His spirit. The flesh profiteth NOTHING.
I attest to your choice of using the word "appear" on numerous occasions. Please consider that reality is changeless; it is this that which makes it real and keeps it separate from all APPEARANCES. Reality cannot change. All appearances can change because they ARE appearances, and cannot have the changelessness reality entails. In the synoptics, Jesus APPEARED unto Mary. The appearance of the body of Jesus appeared as flesh and bones, yet His reality was spirit. Reality and appearances can only exist in a confused mind, but not in reality. The same principle applies to all opposites, i.e. light and darkness, everything and nothing. Be thankful this is true, or the Mind of God would not be Pure and Holy if opposition (opposites) existed in His Mind. God is not dual minded, which brings me to GiGi.
Hi GiGi,
to be continued
Some people are claiming all kinds of anti-Biblical things by cherry picking some verses they like, ignoring others, and then building a false religion around one verse. For example the metaphor about being children and gods. The children part is less popular, but they like the gods one, then expand and use that premise to glue other misinterpreted pieces of scripture together to make a nice fake religion that is exactly what satan wants. He wants people to be deceived and think they can be like god. That's the same way Adam and Eve were deceived in the original sin.
It's shocking what I read sometimes how people's ears are so easily tickled by the lies, and the truth just isn't as welcomed. 2 Timothy 4:3-4. These are dangerous times in the world and Christians are under attack and they don't even realize it. Some have turned from Jesus and are not longer telling the truth, but deceiving on behalf of satan. The clever trick this time is cherry picking metaphors vs what is literal- taking scripture out of context and twisting it until you get the desired outcome. Shame on anyone doing this. May the Holy Spirit convict anyone deceiving others in this way.
I have been thinking today about our dialog on how we each approach and interpret the Bible. I think I've been clear regarding what I believe to be the Biblical approach and have provide some scriptural basis for that belief. So I won't take time to reiterate that here.
I suspect based on our dialog and other comments you have made that you embrace the Dispensational view of the Bible. If I'm incorrect, the rest of what I say here may not apply.
I read what GIGI posted regarding the various tenants of Dispensationalism and I find most of them at first blush unsupportable from the Bible and contrary what God Himself declares as to how we are to approach the Bible.
The idea that God has written certain parts of the Bible to be applicable for certain segments of mankind and not for others, I believe, has the effect of diminishing the authority of the Bible for Mankind in general, and is a view that I could not hold. The Old Testament is equally important for Jews and Gentiles today just as is the New Testament. And each part of the Bible needs to be applied in interpreting every other part of the Bible with that understanding in view.
I know you are familiar with Rev 22:18,19 where God sets very sever penalties for adding to or taking away from the Bible. And I suspect you would agree that recognizing any extra-Biblical writing or proclamation as the Word of God itself and therefore of equal authority as the Bible would be a violation of Rev 22:18.
However, have you given any thought to how the Dispensational approach to the Bible relates to Rev 22:19. That would be a verse I would seriously consider personally if I were deciding on how to interpret the Bible. And it likely would prevent me from adopting the Dispensational view, if GIGI's research is correct. Food for thought.
I wrote a comment earlier today regarding the Book of Hebrews and would be interested in how you approach that Book and some of the things that you believe it is teaching.
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Throughout time, we can see how we have been slowly conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that the Bible foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?
In the book of Revelation 13:16-18, it states,
"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."
Referring to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why so? Revelation 13:17 tells us that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!
These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!
This is where it really starts to come together. It is amazing how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here is information from someone named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:
"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying an
It is supposed to take 12 seconds to do. ALL the on line Bibles don't go by page number, they go by chapter and verse.
Thank you so much, God Bless you and yours
In Love and Light
Kathy