Colossians Chapter 2 Discussion Page 4

To A disciple: No, I was not answering your question. Rom. 2 comments were published ahead of your comment; but for some reason yours got sandwiched between. Your question is loaded; I need some time to review the book of Ezekiel before I can give an informed answer. Thanks

Daniel; I can't tell by your last post if you were answering me or just continuing your thoughts from before. Jesus didn't take away the Law at all by His work on the cross, but completely filled it up! After the Apostles were already going out to the Gentiles, they were still observing the Law of Moses, "knowing that a man is NOT justified by the works of the Law, but by faith in the Lord Jesus."

Yes!

In Romans 2:12, 13 Apostle Paul, referring to the moral laws, says: For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but THE DOERS OF THE LAW SHALL BE JUSTIFIED. Comment: The 10 Commandments were never nailed to the cross, or abolished, they must be obeyed.

Daniel (cont.); My thoughts about the things written in Ezekiel indicate another meaning, or rather ADDED meaning, to the sacrifices and priesthood. We know that Christ is the fullness and perfection of what the types were for teaching; and the sacrifice itself was in its first form a token for Remembrance. I myself don't have any issues with sacrifices as if they would take away from THE PERFECT.

Hi Daniel; That is the Eternal Truth of God! Jesus Christ the Son of God loved us and gave Himself for us a perfect work to redeem us to God for ever! But about the sacrifices under the priesthood of Aaron; in Ezekiel is described a future where the LORD IS sitting King over all the earth from His Palace in Jerusalem, and the sacrifices and first priestly services continuing! Any thoughts on this?

There’s a big difference bet. the 10 Commandments and Ceremonial Laws. The sacrificial system of burnt offerings was designed to point the sinner to the ultimate sacrifice of Christ. It is the blood of Christ ONLY that can cleanse us from all unrighteousness; not the blood of animals: This is why WE don’t need to bring animal sacrifices anymore. The price for our salvation has been paid in full.

Some are beguiled in thinking that they can keep the spirit of the Law without paying attention to the letter of the Law: it is impossible! If anything, the spirit of the Law is more difficult to keep... but not impossible. For example, Jesus said: whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart ( Mat 5:28). He expands the meaning of the letter.

Emanuel; But if you transgress the commandments YOU ARE UNDER THE LAW! The grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ wrought in our hearts by faith, is evidenced by repentance and conversion and the resulting NEWNESS OF LIFE AFTER THE IMAGE OF GOD OUR FATHER, by obedience! Grace is not a trick of the mind or a manipulating of words; but the reflection of the character that ESTABLISHES THE LAW!

Ceremonial or 10 commandments I'm not under either THEIR BOTH FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL. It's not OK to break any commandment because their are instructions in righteousness their guidelines. Christ ended the law when he said IT IS FINISHED. Then the LAW OF GRACE BEGAN. It's now the spirit of the law not the letter (legalism) that's now in effect the church age

No the schoolmaster is the ten commandments you need to STUDY TO SHEW THYSELF APPROVED UNTO GOD. The sole purpose of the ten commandments is to TEACH OR SCHOOL you how ALL HAVE SINNED and there is NONE righteous no not one

Isa. 66:17 says, They that sanctify themselves... eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. 1Tim. 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Comment: the pig and the mouse/rat in the O.T. are the same in the N.T. God never sanctified either of them: They remain unclean and an abomination, unfit to eat.

Emanuel: The Schoolmaster mentioned in Gal. 3:24 refers to the Ceremonial Law; not the Ten Commandments. Why would Ap. Paul list 17 moral sins in Gal. 5:19-21, which would bar the entrance into God's Kingdom? After all, which of the Ten Commandments is OK to break? I know; you just like better the Day of the Sun instituted by man, than the Saturday Sabbath, instituted by God. See also Rom. 7:7

He blotted out the handwriting of ordinances, that was contrary to us and nailed them to His cross.

Let no man judge you in meat
or in drink, or in respect of a holy day, the new moon, or the sabbath days, which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.

I'm a kjv Bible believer new testament which means EVERY CREATURE OF GOD IS GOOD AND NOT TO BE REUFUSED BUT TO BE RECEIVED WITH THANKSGIVING

We're not under the ten commandments there are the school master to bring us to Christ. Its the knowledge of sin. Those who follow them are cursed the kjv says. CURSED BE ALL WHO DO NOT CONTINUETH THE WORDS WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK. Im a minister of the new testament but PAUL said ALL SCRIPTURE (OT

Daniel; Jesus did not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets: He came not to abolish, but to completely make full! Yet there are multitudes of misled who really think that nothing in the Old Testament has anything to do with them or the world at all! He that despises the Word shall be destroyed! Israel who is in disobedience of unbelief is under the curse of the broken Covenant until they repent!

Steve, In 1Cor. 11 Ap. Paul is talking about the Lord's Supper. It has deep deep spiritual meaning: when we are partaking of sacred symbols, representing the body and the blood of Jesus. Please, do not confuse it with your lunch or dinner.

Hi Steve, Are you suggesting that who keeps the Ten Commandments but not the Ceremonial Laws is under CURSE? You need to know the difference between the two. 1Jn 3:4 says Sin is the transgression of the Law. If there is no Law there's no SIN, if there's no sin there's no need for GRACE; and consequently, no need of CHRIST and His forgiveness. IF YE LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS: Jesus ( Jn. 14:15)

Steve, Thanks for your comments! Today, most of man’s diseases are the result of bad diet and lifestyle. You can hardly breathe when you’re sick of TB, cancer, diabetes, etc. So, how can you have peace and joy? How convenient to leave out 1Tim 4:5 FOR IT IS SANCTIFIED BY THE WORD OF GOD AND PRAYER. When did God sanctify the pig and the rat? On the cross? See Is. 66:17 Doesn't God care what I eat?

In vs. 14 and 20 Ap. Paul talks about MAN-MADE rules/ordinances, not the Ten Commandments or any other moral law given to man by GOD. He explains that in vs. 18 and 21 thru 23. To walk in Christ, vs. 6, means to follow Him closely and obey His Laws: not to continue to live in sin. The idea that Christ died so we can trample His Laws under foot, and eat unclean meats, is wrong. See Isa. 65:4, 66:17

being a new creation in Christ 2cor 5/15. We have givien a new heart He indwells us We are complete in him. Are sins are blotted out. WE are not be judge by meat drink holy days or Sabbath days. Lets not be fooled by doctrines of men CHRIST JESUS FINISH THE WORK ON THE CROSS. THIS ONLY THE PERFECT WORK HE CAME TO DO FOR US CAUSE WE COULDNOT

Colossians 2:5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. Paul was a joyful man in the Lord. Paul started lots of Gentiles churches, Amen.

Colossians 2:6 "As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:" One of the most famous sayings of our Lord Jesus Christ which everyone knows as the Golden Rule "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you " should be the first thing we consider, regarding those among whom we live and work every day. And this Golden Rule must be something that really lives and breates and moves inside us. While we want to be truly the blessed poor in spirit, they that mourn, the meek, those that hunger and thirst after righteousness it can only be formed in us by the things that draw out those virtues, like provocations and insults. The same is true if we want to be sincerely the pure in heart, the merciful, and the peacemaker it means encountering people that challenge us regarding that grace. We've often heard about some who get big promotions, and later forget where they came from. If we ever expect to grow up into that supremely great character of virtue and knowledge and self control, of patience and piety and brotherly love and to truly reflect that grace in our hearts by a manner of life worthy of being called by Jesus' name then we have to hold on to that first love, and that first hour's experience through all our days, and as much as it is in our power with everyone we meet.

God has given us the example of his son Jesus Christ and we should follow that example as true Christians.

To Felicia Jesus loves you and God will cleanse your mind and heart to understand his own words. We are already pardoned and our sins are already forgiven by the BLOOD of Jesus. We are now save by his grace Our Prayers must be praising him with thanksgiving and worship him only for he is worthy There is no other God who can love us unconditionally its only Jesus amen

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses 5 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. We will still sin, but God will give us a new body.

Verse 7: We need to be stabilized in the faith and firmly rooted. This involves regular study and meditation on the Bible and applying what we learn.

Many today are substituting God's Word for philosophies and traditions of men as verse 8 shows.