Daniel Chapter 2 Discussion Page 2

The word "seed" in Daniel 2:43 is a very unique Aramaic word, in that, it is only used once in the entire Scriptures. It does not refer to a seed of grain, or a seed for natural birth, ie; a seed for mammal, reptile, or fowl reproduction. This "seed" is unique. Possibly the hidden seed found in DNA. Mixing the DNA of God's creation to make a new creation would be the only abominable sin that would make desolate. Hence, the term "the Abomination that makes desolate" used in Dan 11:31, Dan 12:11. Satan's copy of God's creation. This abominable creation is doomed to hell because it will not be born of water (natural birth) and therefore cannot be "Born Again" it would make it desolate. Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Because of these verses, an artificial creation would be an "Abomination that makes desolate".

comment by Alex on Dan. 2. The head of gold is the written word as Jesus said there in no eternal life in the scriptures per se. My words are spirit and life not paper and ink All the body parts answer to Modern day christianity even Paul says we know in part we prophecy in parts we see in parts etc but when that which is perfect is come that which is done in parts ( THE IMAGE )shall be done away with ya remember th tares the chaff that is cast away, everything became as the chaff of the summer threshing floor the harvest. Evangelists,teachers pastors preachers implies parts God does not wants his kingdom in parts,unless you receive the kingdom as a lil Child etc.Its the MANCHILD which is the H.G. THAT IS GONNA RULE ALL NATIONS. iT WAS THE STONE CUT WITHOUT HANDS THAT RULED ALL THE WORLD.That stone is the living Word of God that is gonna displace all these manmade churches n TV PREACHERS as the MOST HI GOD DOES NOT DWELL IN TEMPLES MADE WITH HANDS. What the law cd not do in that it was WEAK THRU THE FLESH the 10 toes were weak simply b/c of the th flesh, mans carnal mind is not subject to the laws of God and neither indeed can be.Our carnal minds cannot bond with the Law.The iron cd not bond with the clay the flesh our carnal minds etc. Our Adamic nature cannot bond with the spirit of the Law. Note there was not life in this image even tho the head was of Gold, Th bible precious as it is. Eternal life in only in the living Word not the bible ( ONLY BY HIS BLOOD ) If eternal life cd have come via the bible Jesus shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness. The image answers to what Paul is saying, When that which is perfect is come that which is done in PARTS the Image in Dan 2 shall be done away with,The image was done away with.

I'm just wondering people try to assume many things about people who do some hard spiritual thing that may let him feel like he's on top of the world or even have the euphoria of a king. That is why I'm wondering if these dreams not like in Genesis or any place else but in Daniel these dreams of king in chapter two are his emotions and Daniel looking into his face after long conversations about the day and others that sit with the king after all there may be princes and I wonder if this book of Daniel was supposed to support in scripture that every word shall be established in two or three witnesses. And Daniel was ready for it because though a king is not a bull they have that phrase bull in a china shop and remember I do not speak evil of dignities as Daniel had friends so do I. When you start to refer even to any person as an associate i'ts like your trying to hurt that person when he is secure right beside you. I'm not saying every dream but in the head of gold dream.

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I think that Daniel was a wise , honest, and sincere person who carried for his people. The decisions that Daniel made while he was dealing with the King, I believe that Daniel was taking his advise from the Lord God directly. I also believe that Daniel's honesty and loyalty to the king, kept Daniel alive and unharmed. I believe that the integrity presented by Daniel should be an example of...

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I'm touched by Daniel's thoughtfulness: he remembers his prayer partners when he was appointed over the whole province and gave them positions in the government. Father, may I remember those who have prayed and continue to pray for me in my hour of need. Bless them with wisdom and counsel for lifting me up in prayer, grant them the heritage of Jacob and save them and their families, I pray. Amen

GOD almighty, was with daniel.

Note the humble-heart of Daniel after GOD reveal to Daniel what to show the king's about the dream; Daniel took not credit for the work GOD was doing through Daniel as GOD is carrying out the will of Jehovah / GOD.

It is interesting to note that the value of the metals decreases as Daniel tells of the dream (Nebuchaddnezzar, Darius/Cyrus, Alexander the Great, Rome), however, the reverse order appears when he describes the destruction of the image by the stone not made with hands (Jesus).

I used to be afraid to read this book. In 2001 I became a Sunday School Teacher and began to read and study, after a while I began to search the Bible about the future. I didn't quite understand and was afraid a beast (animal) would kill all of us and that God was punishing me for Adam

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Verse 30~Daniel had received special privileges, but he did not let these go to his head. Daniel always gave due credit and praise to Jehovah God.

Jonathan (cont.); All the references to the final kingdom upon the earth describe similarly, one that controls and thus devours the whole world; strong and cruel as iron, but at the same time mingled with the filth of the flesh of the ungodly, thus being in actuality weak and brittled. That sure sounds like the condition and nature of a certain kind all over the world right now fighting for power!

Jonathan; like you, and I'm sure most who study and want to understand the words of the prophets regarding the completion of the age and the Lord's coming; I too have wondered about individuals and empires and times, as to how they might be the fulfillment of the Word. But I've started to understand that the entirety of the Word reaches from beginning to end, and is Spirit and Truth.

The fourth kingdom of Iron is the Roman empire, which conquered the world with its "iron" approach. After the fall of the Roman empire, ten kingdoms came out of it, thus "ten toes". The fact that it is mixed, iron and clay, points to the strive to unity in Europe (marriages at first, later Napoleon and Hitler, now the EU) But it would never truly become a united power again.

Verse 44: God has promised that his Kingdom will replace all the governments and kingdoms that we see today. We should continually pray for God's Kingdom to come.

Praise God. Giving God Honor. 2 Chapter of Daniel. Neither of the King Nebuchadnezzar. Officer could interpret the Dream. But Daniel

2 things stand out to me: (1) Daniel himself has a similar dream that mentions thi 4th kingdom and the 10 toes. Daniel 2:41 and 43 mentions that it is miry clay, and speaks of "these mingle with the seed of men."
Also, the 10 toes in also mentioned in Revelation 13- in conjunction with the Beast.

Bill Timberlake; The LORD showed Daniel exactly what was meant by all the different parts of the Times of the heathen till Christ comes. The hardness and cruelty of the IRON is spiritually mingled with the weakness and perversion of the world of the ungodly; thus also are they led into error to believe what is false as they think their hardness and wickedness is their strength shall be their ruin.

It does not make it clear in any commentary what Daniel 2:43 means, even though it will be revealed as the book is now being opened again. Possibly iron and clay could mean robots combined with human seed. The final ten kingdoms are the last kingdoms that come before the 1,000 year rain of Christ, which will have a lot of technologies; biological, mechanical, and intel. mixed and yet He saves us.

Daniel is such an incredible book. In chapters 2-4 King Nebuchadnezzar realizes the absolute sovereignty of Daniel's God. Very insightful as God is my master and is sovereign in all of my life. Not just a statement but I want to be ever mindful that nothing happens seemingly for or against me that He does not allow.

The 4th Kingdom of iron legs

In response to Harry, the fourth Kingdom was Rome. The empire however was divided and formed what we know as Europe today. We also consider that in that time period Rome was divided with the state forming one entity Pagan Rome,

Verse 21: Jehovah God is the Great Timekeeper. He has full control over times and seasons and he can make things happen precisely on time.

Harry,"they" from V.43 are in V.44"And in the days of these Kings". Daniel 7:23"The 4th beast shall be the 4th kingdom upon earth,and shall devour the whole earth,shall tread it down"The earth is being destroyed by the 4th beast that God sends down from heaven.Rev.4:7 last part"4th beast was like a flying eagle"Rev.6:15men are hiding in mtns,not fighting.Rev.6:17"who shall be able to stand?"NONE

The fourth kingdom sounds like USA...

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, THEY shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
Who are THEY...?

This chapter is a testimony that shows that those that look up to God and rely on HIM will stand where others have failed, may we see this as a call to depend on God in every affairs of our life.

I believe that there is one thing that God cannot do, and it is that He cannot break His own Commandments.

Daniel 2 is a revelation of the World's Government from the Babylonian, the Persian, the Greek, and the Roman empires after which God in Jesus Christ shall establish His Kingdom that will last for ever. Verse 45 in Daniel's interpretation explains the mystery of God personified in Jesus Christ. A stone cut off from a mountain without anyone cutting it out, and it broke into pieces all the empires.