Daniel Chapter 4 Discussion

The course of Earth, according to The Ascended Masters.

The Light may be challenged in The Hearts of Men.

It is not possible, to create Life on Mars.

The Evolution of Men is cosmic and bound by rules.

Unconditional Love, is the only reason why the human race

is currently present on Earth.

Those who think that they can control that what is sacred.

FALL

Daniel 4:1-3

Jeremiah 27:6

Do you believe Nebuchadnezzar came to faith in God?

thank you,

Jim

37 Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.

Note: Nebuchadnezzar learned how the hard way how destructive 'pride' is /can be. 2020, individually and collectively, see verse 37, this same 'pride' is fighting us-all daily (men, women, children), never-the-less the HEART OF GOD is on SALVATION for the human race.

Intercessory prayer indeed causes remarkable changes and when christians pray in one accord, miracles happens.

But beyond this, its important to have Christ consciousness. Know who you are, your rights and place as a christian. As for me, the virus is not a factor because my body is the temple of the Holyghost, and the Holyghost cannot share or cohabit with corona or any sickness. Consistent declaration of the word of God concerning your body is the highest drugs there is.

Jesus in the bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Just because someone claims to be A "Jew" or a christian for that matter does not make it so.

Paul in 1 Thess 2:14, 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.

1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED? God leads Israel to the land, not the UN.

I believe that the WORLDS refusal to believe in the Covenants (Specifically the one ratified by Jesus on the Cross) God has with The nation of Israel; are the engine driving the end times. The 2 State solution must be scrapped. All the dispersed (Jews) in foreign countries are returning to Israel. The prophesies say they will return; they will rebuild and plant. Israel will bloom and prosper. The Jews will again love their Land. They will fight for it. Through the process of extreme pressure, they will accept their Messiah.

If you think God's not watching that process; you need to study those prophetic scriptures.

Stay focused and get into the (2nd) Ark, which is Jesus Christ, and hold on to your FAITH. Don't be shaken by what you see or hear. Fear not.

This 2 State solution for Israel must stop.

I have a feeling it will not bode well for the planet if leaders keep trying to prevent Gods plan for Israel. Time to study those covenants. Teach them. Selah.

John Greetings, When I was in public school in the 1st grade we had bible reading and prayer in Jesus name. Almost no crime and people respected each other. the USA was like leave it to beaver and the andy griffin show of mayberry.

Look into the Noahide laws as they are on the books and they are just not being enforced yet. These laws were first signed by Reagan as president. They call it "education day" godless education without Christ more like it.

This was to honor Rabbi Schneerson who practiced kabbalah. look up chabad Lubavitch Kabbalah and get an education of what they really believe. The penalty for violating the Noahide laws is beheading.

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark...

I see these comments after reading Daniel chapter 4. Perhaps some here, should re-read this chapter? I say that based on the questions and remarks I see below.

What happened in chapter 4, can be easily applied to what's going on today with the Corona "Virus" situation.

And we've got the Governor of New York proclaiming from his podium on national television, that WE are beating this virus, with NO help from God, and with NO help from our faith!! If you missed that speech, BE SURE to find on YouTube and watch it! I paraphrased the words, there not verbatim. But the fact he actually said such things not only enraged me as a Christian American, it also proved that the push is really on, using this "virus", to usher in their global plan of government, and to 100% remove God and our freedom of worship in this country.

Thank you for your thoughts & prayers for Australia. Sadly, it takes crises like these for some to be alerted to the brevity of life & to eternity. Of those, a few will make earnest enquiry to heavenly things, but as the Scripture has warned that in the final days, others will have hearts grow even harder & will further blaspheme His Holy Name ( Rev 16:9). Yes indeed, evangelising must go on until the appointed number of souls are ushered in, & yet, how difficult it has become in the West, with hardened hearts & anti-Christian govts. against righteousness. More are responding to the Gospel in Asia & Africa PTL. My short ministry in S.Asia ('80s) demonstrated good reception to the Gospel.

I prayed every day, last year, for the fires in Australia. Wow. That's when the Lord said it isn't global warming. All of creation is groaning for the return. It feels like birthpains: you just want it to end. You see all the faces who have yet to receive Jesus. We need global evangelizing.

Any time to witness & pray for all people should be a burden on a believer's heart. And particularly in times of national/world crises, this matter becomes all the more important. The basis of a prayer request is a child of God's cry to the Father imploring Him to act. We know God Hears if we ask in faith (Js 1:6), with a clean heart ( Ps 24:3-5), & according to God's Will ( 1 Jn 5: 14,15): all criteria need to be met. So the pastors who received a Word from God: is it to pray for believers' insulation from the virus or to remove the virus Should we ask also, "why has this come upon us at this time & what is God saying to us through this" May the Spirit help us to pray rightly ( Rom 8:26).

I heard a radio preacher say today that the church is being given a huge opportunity to witness, evangelize and pray for people.

A week ago a group of pastors prayed and a word of knowledge was given that our faith can stand against corona virus.

If enough people were praying the same thing...God watches over His Word to perform it. Intercessory Prayer works. It's happened in the past in this country. It's on record. What's your take on this

Thanks for those insights into your ministry, Mishael: you are indeed a mighty servant of the Lord and doubtless, much fruit will abound to your account from your labours. Whether in Oklahoma or where I am here in Western Australia, the Word of God will surely be like healing ointment in our dry & thirsty lands. We pray for America - you all are doing it tough; but God is Sovereign and He will empower His people to be "a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish...and to walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given Himself for us an offering & a sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savour. ( 2 Cor 2:15, Eph 5:2). Every blessing in your endeavours.

I think many people really want to get out of the pews and reach out to the lost, but they're bashful and not sure how to start. We need teachers. Have to study to show thyself approved. Pray for the harvest. Have some uncomplicated tracts. I like non-combative chick tracts. Most everybody likes a gospel comic book. I put my churches location on them. I take Gospel of John Bibles in a backpack and McDonald food coupons. I leave tracts on bus benches. God will surely bless us for expenses. Almost everyone will let us pray for them. I just know Christians are starving for following Jesus in a very public way. The pleasure of sharing Jesus is worth defeating fear of mankind. I think of Paul :)

The first time I went evangelizing I was outside of a bar I used to go to. A group came out laughing, making fun. I said y'all are going to fall into hell, let me show you how to ascend into heaven. They said we know we're going to hell and ducked around the corner. I went home so discouraged. Head on the table apologizing to the Lord. He replied almost audibly and tender. He said are you through doing it your way I said yes!!! He showed me how to spend time praying to the Lord of the Harvest and I would pray for Divine appointments. In Tulsa, we'd go in groups of 2. If people would just step over their fears of man and the unknown, they would step into a partnership with Jesus and joy!

Mishael, I'm generally happy if someone prefers to use Yahweh instead of God, only if they remain true to using the other Names attributed to God in Scripture. We only use God & LORD, which misses out on the real usage of His Name. Interesting to note that you did street evangelism. I was part of the Open Air Campaigners in my younger days when I used to take a group from our Fellowship for street singing, preaching & tract distribution. Invariably, we were despised & spat upon, but of course the Spirit moves in the hearts He has prepared to receive the Word & come to salvation. The nursing home ministry would be so vital, but even here so many remain hard-hearted & resistant to His pleas.

It's worse than that. In their Bibles the name of God is replaced with Jehovah.

Jesus is not Gods son, and more.

The Scientologist will chase you down the street if they can. Public street. All you have to do is carry a KJ Bible. I used to think they'd get tired of a dead religion but not so. I'm 68 now and mostly I visit people in nursing homes. My mom was in one briefly and a real burden came on me for them.

Chris...I agree about the JW. I've never met one who had doubts about their beliefs. I was a street evangelist and it's hard to turn away wipe the dust off my shoes and travel on. I do because the next person may listen. I can't go to the nursing homes at this time; but maybe soon. Thanks for your comment.

Mishael...we usually have problems with cults because most of us know very little about their beliefs. It's not difficult to do some research on them so you might be more prepared when you meet. They too appreciate that a 'Christian' will give them time since they get mostly negative receptions. The important subject that JWs bring forward is on God's Kingdom on Earth & we should all share in it. Sounds nice but they don't believe in Hell, so if we refuse to accept their teaching, then we just die & remain in the grave & not rise to live again. My advice to them is that Jesus' death was to give us opportunity to not be in eternal Hell rather than not be left in the grave. No comfort in this.

I totally agree with the scripture you sent. I used to wonder what apostolic ministries were about, but I have enough problems with the Jehovah witnesses that drop by. I tried to share Jesus with them but their eyes kind of glaze over. I pray for them instead now. He's not willing that any should perish; but that all would come to repentance. Amen.

A disciple is a follower of Christ. An apostle is someone who was sent out on a commission. All true believers who are following Christ are called disciples. There are no more apostles today because the qualification of an apostle was that he had to be there from the time of John's baptism and had to be an eyewitness to the resurrection of Christ. Therefore, we still have disciples today, but no apostles.

To add: Jesus' apostles also were filled with the Holy Ghost so that with their lives and ministry it was said, "that they turned the world (sic) upside down" ( Acts 17:6). Whereas His disciples were empowered at special times (when they were to told to go out and heal the sick, raise the dead, etc. ( Mt 10:8). Today, there are no apostles in the strictest sense of the word (some would disagree, of course), since we have not seen the Lord, but we are His disciples as we learn from His Spirit and do what He asks of us.

A disciple is anyone who has believed on Jesus's Word and has followed Him; from time then to now.

Apostles actually saw Jesus in his ministry.

What is the difference between a disciple and an apostle?

In Dan 4:7, there is no special or hidden meaning contained there. It is simply an account of Nebuchadnezzar & his quest to find the interpretation of his dream. His wise men couldn't help him so he called for Daniel, who gave him the meaning by God's help. Some groups tend to 'spiritualize' portions of the Word, that ought not to be done. E.g. the pebbles that David collected to be used in the slaying of Goliath: each pebble has a special meaning and significance. This, to me, is absurd and outrageous.

I don't understand the meaning behind this verse. Can somebody explain it to me?

27 Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by shewing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquility.... NOTE in 27 above, Daniel is keenly aware of the results of sinful actions of the King. These actions had a very negative affect on the personal life of the King. 2020 is no different because having a lot or little and leaving Jehovah /GOD out of our plans shall sooner or later rob one of tranquility /the peace that only GOD can give. Jesus is very familiar with evil actions such as in this verse above, therefore JESUS said, see Mathew 11:28-30.... SALVATION by JOHN 3:16-21 open the door.

Like so many of us that have been blessed and refuse to acknowledge the poor, abused, and oppressed. Your pride will make the Lord a base you. If your truly a child of God!