Deuteronomy Chapter 6 Discussion Page 3

The Lord understands that life won't always treat us well, whether to us personally or to those whom we love. Of course, this is all because of the presence of evil in us & in the world. Why people who've done nothing wrong against God or others & also innocent children have to also suffer, will always be perplexing to us & reason to accuse God. Yet, when we recover from that anger & hatred against God we must find room in our hearts to consider that God finds no pleasure in our suffering & death: Ezek 18:32 "For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye."

Yes, He can take away that pain & looming death, but for those who love Him, He waits to see our true response to Him - coming in implicit faith & trust that He does all things well & for our good. And we know for faith to work & produce the desired fruit, means that the object of our faith must be fully believed in & deemed totally trustworthy & reliable. Man will fail us, as will governments & family & friends, sometimes showing us our misplaced faith. But God can never be faulted & can never be accused & for those who do, whether ignorantly or deliberately, they can look forward to specific dealings by God.

Your testimony shows us that ultimately God had His Hand upon your life even bringing you to Him in spite of the sorrow of losing your Mother in that grievous way. Many would have turned against God, as my Uncle did, to their eternal damnation, but he spared you, gave you a lovely & loving family & yes, a living testimony to His Power & Grace. Sadly, pain will come to us - I might have to suffer it in the future - but my prayer is that in spite of physical/mental torment, I will cling onto the One, in Whose Hands my life is hid & secure through all eternity. Leave the pains of the past - I've had to - as that is the only way to be able to truly worship & glorify the Lord in your heart & through your life - this is real Faith.

On spirts and mediums beware? but where is it at?

I watched my mother die for 5 years and maybe God did that to scare me out of being an undesirable, adulterous, disrespectful, drunken derelectic idiot. I personally don't believe he needed to do that to keep me straight, but I did have the resources then to become a wild and crazy playboy debaucherer. I married a very poor lady with three small boys and helped her raise them they are now very fine men. WE are still married and we love each other very much. So maybe there was a method to GOD's seemingly evil way that he treated my mother. It WORKED !!

Whit, no apologies necessary - I don't believe I questioned you sharing your secret - these testimonies speak to all of us of what others have gone through in life & how the Lord has sustained & intervened in some special way.

However, your comment about God being both good & evil concerned me. Ordinarily, I could pass this off as a person's use of the word 'evil' may not be what I'm thinking of. But that comment triggered in my mind, one of my last conversations with an uncle before he passed away some years after we talked. He too used that phrase about God being both good & evil, yet his was an angry, fist in the air blast against God, because of certain 'evils' that had come to him through his life. Even when talking about this with him, about his accusation against God & that God is not a God of evil nor can He do evil, my uncle was adamant it was so till his death.

Your Mother's death was long & very painful & heartbreaking to read. My Mother too died, suffering horribly for two years with lung cancer. Even after our family's pleadings with God & cries from me, her 14 yr old son, did not move God's Hand to spare her. Why didn't God listen - is He evil for taking an innocent life? I had to learn early on that God wanted her Home & there would be events in the future that would fall into place - into His bigger Plan.

All I can share here is that God does allow things to happen to our lives or loved ones for reasons unknown to us - this does not make Him evil, it shows us that He is God alone, our Creator, the One Who is entitled to do what He wants with His creation, & in His Plans He does what is right & best for us. We can't see the end of it all - we just feel the present disappointment & sorrow. But in our ignorance of Him, He requires a complete trust & faith in His Work & that "we (should) know that ALL things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." ( Romans 8:28). The Lord strengthen you.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say God can be EVIL? One who has truly studied Jesus knows; God may allow evil though he is not evil. He may give Satan or demons permission to do things(as we saw with Saul, Ananias, Paul, Job etc) but it is to be an example, to torment and to bring to righteousness-for His purpose. If God casts someone into hell it's not because He is evil..it's because the person was evil. We should fear him not because he is evil but because he has the ultimate authority to allow evil into our lives based upon our will.

When I was a very sinful person I experienced horrific things I never wish on anyone. Was it God himself? I don't believe so. I believe God allowed these demons to present themselves due to my sins. With what I saw and felt I can't even contemplate nor even want to imagine what hell would feel like.

I don't blame God. I don't think God is evil. I'm thankful he has shown me things that have changed my life and brought me closer to Him.

I hope you are able to change your view or understanding. Telling people God is evil is not using the correct lense.

PSALM 107

10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.

12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our TRANSGRESSIONS from us.

13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.

14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembers that we are DUST.

15 As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.

16 For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more.

17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him (HONOR), and his righteousness unto children's children;

18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.

Comment on verse 12

As far as East is to West is an INFINITE line.

That's how far God throws our sins. He remembers them no more.

It does not give us a license to sin willfully.

Mishael

The day my son was born was 6-27-77. My birthday that year was 7-7-77. I was 27.

It's just kind of a big thumbs up from God; that he's here; he's involved in our lives.

Try to think about life and what does God have in store for your life? No matter what we go through; He's there with us. He has plans for us. It's up to us to discover what's next.

Mishael

A lot of us have a story like yours. Both my parents ; and 2 younger brothers from drugs. An adopted brother that found his birth family, then abandoned ours. You feel the sadness will never end. We have these testimonies to help and comfort others who are going through that same valley now.

I know your grief is still fresh; your heart still freshly wounded.

I pray the Holy Spirit would comfort you and let you see that your family is happy where they are.

God says in his Word, all souls are Mine. They are with Him.

People laugh at me because I watch movies. TV not so much. Someone gave me The Shack movie and I was able to get all that pain I was holding in; out.

We've been through this with you. Sometimes the Law works to grind down those painful edges. God is not afflicting you. If you surrender your testimony (that you've lived), he will bring people your way that need to hear how you got through it.

Recently in the prayer request room I met a woman who had lost her mother. She hasn't been able to smile or go places. She feels like a prisoner in an empty house. I told her what I finally did (for me).

I confessed to the Lord I was lonely. Please send me some new Christian friends? I went to church and Joined the singles group, my age. I met others who were on the same life path. It was nice just to share and listen. To laugh again; to cry with others. Have others to go bowling with.

I started to eat better and to sleep without crying first. I looked up in the sky one night and felt like God was there too. I knew from scripture that Jesus is seated at God's right hand, making intercession for all saints (me too).

I experienced that enveloping love and care. I didn't think I had anymore tears, but I found some. Love heals us. God is Love.

Don't believe The Accuser's (satan) lies that God is evil or mean. That's satans personality. He hates God and everyone that God loves.

Just keep your eyes on Jesus. He took your pain.

Sometimes I wonder why I have kept this story to myself for so long and now I remember. I agree with you totally about keeping it secret. Very SORRY that I forgot !! But I know my parents are still alive because they were great parents. Thankyou and I am sorry !!

Chris you could be right but my quest all my life has been to try and know more about the Lord. I see my life as being similar to the fortress called Masada which fell in the 1st century. History isn't real clear as to what year it fell but I believe Jesus predicted that the Romans were the conquerors that would bring it down. When I read Deut. I see myself as Israel and I take instruction from God when he speaks to Israel. Its more fun that way and I have found it to be RIGHT !! One thing I know for sure is that God can be EVIL. If you just study Jesus sometimes you forget that God can do evil things. But God can be extremely loving and kind also. I have found this thru studying the lord. He told me that he was going to remove my mom and dad which he did, but watching my mom die was hideous. I felt like Moses begging God to restrain himself from killing the first born of Egypt. She died from colon cancer and it took 5 years. She was not a Bible or religious enthusiast like me. I guess I am like a dog that has UNCONDITIONAL love for its master, and very respectful. I never make the mistake of forgetting or being disrespectful of GOD. If the lord has a problem with what I have just written I apologize but these are part of the statutes and judgements of the LORD THY GOD !!

Is the moon made out of green cheese? I like Swiss myself. Or, chili con queso :)

If Earth is flat, why does the moon look round?

I lived in Roswell New Mexico 15 years and never once saw anything green with big eyes.

They do have scorpions with fur on their legs.

A bug with a baby's face, named: child of the earth.

A bug that smells like vinegar if you step on it. It's called a Vinegaroon.

You gotta google their pics.

Jesus loves us anyway.

That was a strong testimony, Whit - thank you. And fortunately, during that spiritual encounter you had on the freeway, you were spared being involved in an accident - must be the Lord's doing indeed!

However, I was concerned with your reference to Deuteronomy 28:7: "The LORD shall cause thine enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways." As you know that portion was the LORD's promise to Israel to sustain & protect her providing she served the Lord & kept His commandments. And one of those promises is there in verse 7: protecting her from her enemies, that they might indeed march in closed ranks against her, but when the Lord's Hand comes against them, their fleeing will be totally disorganized as they 'run for their lives' in all directions.

You find this verse applicable to your life, particularly in the appointment by the Lord for your time on Earth. Did you receive this as a Word from God or was it simply you applying it to yourself? I can't change your mind to rethink this matter, but can say that this type of interpretation & application will in all likelihood, fail. And your 'remaining days' may be unnecessarily burdened with thoughts, plans & decisions based on your interpretation, which would grieve me for the outcome of your life on Earth.

My Mother died at age 40 - my Father at age 61. I've always felt that my time would come somewhere in between those years as various factors of health, genes, family history, etc. are taken into account. Now, I have exceeded 61 yrs by 5 yrs & still quite healthy. My calculations failed at that level. "(Our) times are in God's Hand" ( Psalm 31:15) & we can't presume to know what God knows & does with us. We are called to be faithful & holy in the new lives He has blessed you & me with & be living testimonies of His Grace to those living in darkness. May the Lord help you in this matter particularly.

Thankyou for replying, I was afraid that my life story would go unnoticed..............THANKS and God Bless You !!!

Good story. Mine is the opposite. Born in a sharechoppers cabin and never had much. But if you don't know you are poor, it mattters little.

Matthew 13 kjv Comments by Alex about the ability of Christ to multiply very God in humanity via his seed the Word th living Word.It was God the father that made this law that everything has to multiply after its Kind, Thats how we know that Jesus is truly God the son simply b/c he has the ability to reproduce very God in humanity. He does not reproduce flesh and blood children he has the ability to reproduce God Almighty, SPIRITS the H.G. PLURAL IN humanity

the World, Thus there is an Israel of God in his seed, spirits,Thats y he said that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats th h.g. our new innerman the very kingdom of God in US thats y david said beautiful for situation THE JOY OF THE WHOLE WORLD simply b/c its gonna be situated in our hearts b/c/ that good seed is sown in our hearts when the book is opened which are the seeds/words of the sower that he wrote with his own blood. I JUST BE RAMBLIN in the spirit. But i have just proved that Jesus is truly God the son with a mission to impregnate this whold world with his precious seed th word. he wants to bring many sons into Glory with his seed. The Manchild that is gonna rule all nations is the H.G. and Jesus is the father of the H.G. simply b/c the H.G. is the fruit of his loins his seed the WORD, To whom the word came it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken My word cannot return unto me void it has to prosper in what it was sent to do meaning a birth salvation, she brought forth a manchild simply b/c of his seed his Word, conversation, understanding is conception, gestation in the spritual realm today if you will his voice his seed, Thats what real faith is a spritual pregnancy b/c i have spoken these words Sorrows have filled your hearts meaning a child Thats y the scripture is saying FAITH is the substance of things hoped for ( The child )the evidence of things not seen ( th BABE ) that which is born of the spirit is the H.G. Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God AS A LIL CHILD .ty Jesus

My Comments about the Davidic kingdom and how it is another Christ Kingdom as in ISAIAH 11 v 1 kjv. Isaiah said that a rod wd come out of Jesse which was DAVID THAT CAME OUT OF JESSE.and a branch wd come out of David which was Solomon that means comforter that came out of Christ loins he shall be a great judge and judge the whole world, Jesus said when he the spirit of truth is come he will reprove the world of sin and judgement etc. God wd not let David the son build the great Temple he wd only let Solomon the granson build that great temple impling only the Comforter the H.G. can build that great Temple in in our hearts REMEMBER Jesus said a greater then Solomon is here thus the Comforter the H.G. will build a greater then Solomon,abide in me and in you .Remember Solomon was the granson in the Davidic kingdom. In the heavenly Kingdom the H.G. IS THE GRANSON simply b/c he comes out of Christ loins ( his seed ) his breath was his word his seed. Thats y Jesus refers to the H.G as the PROMISE Child he is the granson, the 3rd person in the heavenly trinity, Remember it was the 3 rd person Jacob th Grandson whos name was changed to Israel which is telling us the H.G IS GONNA INITIATE THE ISRAEL OF GOD. Rev 12 she brought a manchild that is gonna rule all Nations and its this Child the granson that is the H.G. THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH that is gonna rule all nations as Jesus said. The woman is US that has been implanted with his seed the word the children of the Kingdom. Remember when Isaiah saw the kingdom coming he says unto us a Child is born unto us a son is given which is the HG, TH GRANSON the child of PROMISE .Remember what Isaiah said the House of David shall be as the house of God ( Jesse David and Solomon )Jesus even refers to himself as the root and the offspring of David comparing his kingdom to Davids kingdom Buts its Christ's kingdom that has no end. once starts the opening of the book are the seeds of the sower that is gonna initiate a birth of Christ in All.

"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."

- Matthew 11:15

Amen.

My Comments on Matthew 13 That great parable of the Sower and his Seed which is the multiplication of Christ via his Seed and answers to the Promise that God made to Abraham about Christ being multiplied as the stars of heaven. My mind is set that THIS is the real GOOD NEWS that Christ is gonna multiply his Deity which is the Granson the H.G. N Humanity. the field the world humanity in the hearts of ppl where this super seed is gonna be sown, ya gotta realize the seed is the LIVING WORD the very seed of God, Remember John 1 says the WORD is GOD, Thus Christ is gonna propagate GOD with his Word, this is truly the good news and remember his word is his Breath now that you can understand this you can see the Gransons th STARS of heaven the H.G. PLURAL the Israel of God that is gonna be born in us Sinners ya gota realize the TRINITY is simply FATHER SON AND GRANSON being that the H.G. COMES outa of Jesus seed his words thats y he is saying to whom the word came it made them Gods see which is the very multiplication of God thats y he refers to the H.G. as the PROMISE Jesus cd not refer to the H.G. as the Promise if he were not his offspring the Israel of God,If ya cannot understand Father Son and Grandson how will you understand the nation of Israel.the promise of multiplication was only made to these 3 men, Thats y God told Moses that his name was abraham issac n jacob and my memorial to all generations.God cd not have told Moses this if he were not gonna multiply Jesus just like issac remember issac was offered up just like Christ but Christ actually died. God had an Israel of God in his mind all this time. FATHER SON AND GRANSON IN THE SPRITUAL REALM.ITS GOD THAT WANTS A POSTERITY AND CHRIST WAS JUST HIS 1ST BORN OF MANY BRETHREN and thats the good news Christ is gonna multiply himself in US sinners giving us that new heart N new spirit, That new covenant th WORDS OF THAT NEW COVENANT ARE THE VERY SEEDS OF GOD THUS THAT 3 RD PERSON A HEAVENLY JACOB TH H.G. GRANSON.

Here's something new to you and maybe also to some others who strongly hold to one of the three concepts of God: The Lord will not condemn anyone solely on the basis that they had the wrong idea of Him because He has already said his ways and thoughts are higher than that of humans in Isa 55:8-9. So, He knows you struggle with the abstract concept of the Godhead (which should've been the non-inflammatory word used instead of Trinity). Btw, Jesus is the only Way

Even a Trinity pastor, on YouTube, once described and showed an illustration! of God as the three headed Cerebus of ancient Egyptian religion. It was so ignorant of a certified minister. Now, that in itself is insulting to God and could constitute heresy

Do you really know the definition of either heresy or rebellion? Definitions are not based on name calling those who disagree with you. (On this particular issue, regrettably the Roman Catholic Church started this childish name calling which they escalated into executing people)

GOD gave us all free will, within some boundaries. (That is too upsetting to a large section who are actually heretical). To continue, you may believe in a Unitarian God or the hybrid, and others may continue to believe in the Godhead. It is possible that none of these ideas are correct. It is even possible to change one's mind if one is not blinded by bias & dogma to really read scriptures as they are written. (My NIV Study Bible caused me to doubt the Godhead, so my scientific training made me test all those concepts)

Some church leaders taught wrongly that we simply find verses to support whatever concept or decision we've already prejudged. NO, we don't test the Bible for data. It's the other way around: Scriptures are what must be used to test even one's OWN pet theory ( Rom 12:2, you're supposed to let the words of God transform you - not the other way around). But in another misapplication of scripture: 2Tim 3:16 has become like Samurai swords in the hands of the immature

There is no trinity! God the Father is the only true God. The Son of God said so:

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

- John 17:3

Trinitarian, it is time to repent of this blatant heresy that God is a trinity. Being rebellious is as the sin of witchcraft.

Duetronomy 6:4hear, o israel: the lord our god is one lord:---trinity is a heathen concept corruptly brought about by romans in about 300ad; ephesians4:4 says clearly' we have one god,one lord-messaiah,one spirit-holy ghost,one baptism-deeping in water,one faith-decalogue and christ'. do not be decieved by antichrist concepts-they are very cunning and tricky.hindus and other pagans have 'trinity in their worship'.satan-the beast-false prophet in revelation also form the three.there is not a single verse in the bible which has the term'trinity'. if any,then prove it.i mean the term trinity as it is ;not a derived concept.saints are only saints when they follow the bible;not any other thing!

This was a great read. It reminds us to testify and tell of God's goodness to future generations. How will they know what God can do if we don't share the things that we've been through? When they hear our stories of the mighty power of God, it will come to mind when they are in trouble. We must teach them to call upon the Lord or else others will teach them to turn to things that make matters worse. We all go through hardship, but it's better to go through with God than without Him. I find hope in God. Although I don't see Him, I believe that He sees me and will carry me through anything that comes my way. Trust God.

Both, the instructions and warnings from Jehovah GOD was clear, and they would choose not to adhere. Today, we also have chosen not to adhere to the instructions and warnings of GOD. Thank GOD for HIS mercy, ..., ..., ..., and especially JESUS the sacrificial LAMB.

1 Of my favorite books . Thank YouFather For Your Word ,And For Your Son Jesus !!!

You need to fear god

this is a wonderful blessing from god above because without love for gods in this world we would be in trouble without god above.

All of me should connect with all of Jesus. It's my choice. Jesus allows us to choose him. We're never forced. He wants us to genuinely give over to him just as he gave himself for us.

Mandela effect is antichrist and not true. My bible has the same words as it did when it was given to me more than 55 years ago.

ture ve tur u are right

Abraham was indeed multiplied as the sands of the seas but Abrahams children were not the children of PROMISE,its CHRIST AND HIS SEED THAT ARE THE CHILDREN OF PROMISE WHICH ARE SPIRITS TH H.G. plural THATS WHICH IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT THATS THE H.G. OUR NEW INNERMAN THAT IS GONNA BE BORN IN US VIA HIS SEED THE WORD THE VERY SEED OF GOD SOWN IN HUMANITY THUS THE GRANSONS TH ISRAEL OF GOD .