Discuss 1 Kings 13

Was the man of God killed by the lion Josiah? If so, why did king Jeroboam trick (lie) him into coming to his house to eat bread and drink water? Did it have something to do with the king's sinful alter practices? I feel the man killed by the lion made it to heaven.

Looks like immediate judgment against someone who would do the man of God harm in verse 5

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

2-9. he cried against the altar-which is put for the whole system of worship organized in Israel.

Behold, a child shall be born Josiah by name-This is one of the most remarkable prophecies recorded in the Scriptures; and, in its clearness, circumstantial minuteness, and exact prediction of an event that took place three hundred sixty years later, it stands in striking contrast to the obscure and ambiguous oracles of the heathen. Being publicly uttered, it must have been well known to the people; and every Jew who lived at the accomplishment of the event must have been convinced of the truth of a religion connected with such a prophecy as this. A present sign was given of the remote event predicted, in a visible fissure being miraculously made on the altar. Incensed at the man's license of speech, Jeroboam stretched out his hand and ordered his attendants to seize the bold intruder. That moment the king's arm became stiff and motionless, and the altar split asunder, so that the fire and ashes fell on the floor. Overawed by the effects of his impiety, Jeroboam besought the prophet's prayer. His request was acceded to, and the hand was restored to its healthy state. Jeroboam was artful, and invited the prophet to the royal table, not to do him honor or show his gratitude for the restoration of his hand, but to win, by his courtesy and liberal hospitality, a person whom he could not crush by his power. But the prophet informed him of a divine injunction expressly prohibiting him from all social intercourse with any in the place, as well as from returning the same way. The prohibition not to eat or drink in Beth-el was because all the people had become apostates from the true religion, and the reason he was not allowed to return the same way was lest he should be recognized by any whom he had seen in going.

Hi Hanna , went you get into the 2nd book of the King's you will be introduced to Josiah in Ch 22 of 2nd Kings . As you read about him you will read that he fulfills the prophecy of 1st Kings in 2nd Kings Ch 23 . Enjoy , much love in Christ .

I dont understand whats happening in verses 1-5, is there someone who could explain?

You can type your scripture on Google to see many commentaries on the same verse. Interesting. I like the BibleHub website.

Just type it like this:

1 Corinthians 13:1, commentary

Or, meaning, Or, History, Or Teaching

Learning the whole picture of a scripture is so interesting! There are dozens of different commentators. You'll figure out which ones you like best.

Tip: as a rule I don't read Wikipedia posts. It's a Google comment on Bible and I'd rather know which Bible is being used.

When we get to the place where we live our faith in full view of everybody, that's a good place to be. Jesus is loving and kind. I ask people is there anything you would like to ask Jesus for?

Ask the Holy Spirit to anoint you to be a better student and to help you to study. It will happen.

Tell others of the things in Matthew 24 and Luke 21; and scriptures that make you happy. Book of Proverbs. Stay away from angry faces or bad language.

I was a street minister 35 years and counting. Sometimes I just smile and say: is there anything you would like to ask Jesus about, today? They will smile and walk away, or they might ask for a short prayer.

I'm 70 and I never get tired of touching a life for Jesus. Even if all I can give is a smile__that touches my eyes.

Mishael

Reading this chapter as best I could I took notes. Then I read Matthew Henry's (MH) commentary and my eyes were opened.

I too, among other things, wondered about why the old prophet was not punished.

MH answer to my heart as I understand it:

1. Worry about yourself when you have disobeyed you Lord. You are likely, nor should you concern yourself as to why or how the good Lord punishes sinners.

2. Focus in on your sin alone and dont use mitigating circumstances, as the current social/legal order may do in current society, as your crutch to try to wash away the seriousness of your offense.

Praise HIM,

-mbr

Genesis 9:5, 1 Kings 13:24,28,

To add to discussion I just recently replied but felt led to add to my post. Just recently in Daniel I believe GOD revealed to me Daniel & his friends may have been, as captives of war made Eunuchs by Nebuchadnezzar- Daniel 1:1-3, Daniel 1:7-9, Daniel 1:10-11, each time it states those who were put over Daniel & his companions that title was given them 'over the Eunuchs' . There is no account of them having children that I've found. Futhermore when Nebuchadnezzar threatened people in his brutal way= Daniel 2:5, Daniel 2:12-13, Daniel 3:28-29, it was probably a very viable threat & intensely reality. Which now not only puts new light on Nebuchadnezzar's threats but his way of thinking.

Recently GOD's been showing me more in these scriptures. Daniel also is the only one that I've found where an angel says was greatly beloved, Daniel 10:11, Daniel 10:19, there seems to be a distinction in this address. GOD knows us & everything thing we have suffered, everything taken from us, even wrongful sterilization. He loves us! Hopefully this is also encouraging in a deep way as it has been to me. Yes I believe GOD addresses people personally & callings differ. Moses, Hosea, Ezekiel are few examples Daniel another. Sometimes HE calls us to do things others have not been called to nor had precedence for. Like Noah. In my life I've been reminded of this scripture more than once [1 Kigs 13:8-10,15,16,17,18,21,22,*24,] 1 Kings 13:1-32, we must obey GOD ALMIGHTY in what HE calls us to do personally.

When I say a distinction the wording is a little Different than Isaiah 48:14, 2 Samuel 2:24, 1 Kings 10:9, Revelations 1:5, Revelations 3:9, John 14:20, Mark 10:21, & even Matthew 3:17 because CHRIST is the SON, THE WAY TRUTH & LIGHT, LIFE. If I had my Exhaustive Concordance at hand, I would study it more fully.

Chris as I've been studying prophecy I've realized it was given in times when it was needed, either for correction or for hope, direction, protection. If things were obvious it wouldn't be needed. I am referring to all prophetic here. Matthew 2:12,13, Matthew 16:22-27, Luke 13:33,34, Luke 2:26, Daniel 10:1-3, 1 Samuel 3-1,9,10,11,12,13,14, it's also for revelation, exposure: when a person thinks they've hidden something from others or GOD= 1 Samuel 15:10-29, 2 Samuel 11 & 12, 2 Chronicles 20:20, There are many examples in scripture.

Those two examples you've given wouldn't seem to me prophetic but foresight if it didn't edify the Church, encouraged, give direction, revelation etc., In line with GOD & HIS Words we could reflect on. Ezekiel is an example of very strange exhibited behavior probably to get the attention of "a stubborn people" so even if someone seems weird that might not be a reason not to listen. So, in the examples you gave on the surface it seems irrelevant to us.

Let me give an example. Yesterday we were discussing Australia. Amanda Grace has given prophetic 'Words' regarding Australia saying things like "GOD hasn't forgotten you Australia" she said several things about leadership & GOD knowing the wrong that some leadership were doing. I think she said an earthquake would be a sign, there was a large earthquake very soon after then a few political things happened with people stepping down. Then just recently a Pro.Life Premier was elected. Looks to reflect in line with GOD's will. Her blog has her written prophectic Words Amanda Grace Ark of Grace.

Even with accurate 'Words' 1 Kings 13:11-34, Deuteronomy 13:1-5, serve GOD only. Hopefully this helps

Hello Christina,

Here are a couple verses for you: Matthew 8:16, Matthew 8:28-32, Matthew 9:32-33, Mark 1:23-26, Mark 1:34,

Mark 1:39, Mark 5:2-13, Mark 7:25-30, Luke 4:33-36, Luke 4:41, Luke 11:14.

Some may be of the same account just a different book.

God Bless.

Where in the Bible does Jesus perform an exorcism

2 Corinthians 4:3-7 But if the gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

In whom the god(devil) of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Why was not the old prophet who lied punished? Maybe in the next readings?

It surely does help me, Sir. I understand and am so thankful for your assistance. Your comments are so well appreciated.

CNettles

Greetings, Cynthia, on the The Lord's Day, the first day of the week, the day of Jesus' Resurrection!

The Old Testament is filled with accounts that do indeed seem strange to many. It's important to determine the type of writing that you are reading. There are historical accounts, poetry, instructions, census, genealogy etc. This appears to be history. Jeroboam was the first king of Israel after Solomon when the kingdom was split 10 to the north called Israel and 2 to the south called Judah. He was a bad king.

A prophet of God was sent to Bethel where an altar to false gods had been erected by Jeroboam and you can read the account in 1 Kings 13:1-24. In this account, the prophet tells the king that he was instructed by God to not eat, drink or return by the same route, and he proceeds to do just that.

However an evil prophet hears about the incident, accosts the prophet of God and persuades him to have dinner with him, by lying to him. 1 Kings 13:18. The prophet of God believed this evil prophet and they had dinner together. Then the evil prophet actually speaks a prophecy from God. 1 Kings 13:21-22. The prophet of God leaves, very likely frightened to death, and just as was prophesied, dies before he reaches home and was buried somewhere other than with his family.

God expected His prophets to 1) speak His words exactly and 2) do exactly as He commanded them to do. Not to believe and do so is dangerous. It is His prerogative to punish or reward. He does all thing with righteousness and justice. Don't mess with God. Too often we treat God and His Word glibly. We ought to be more sober-minded and God-honoring.

Hope this helps.

what is the purpose of these verses in the scripture: 1Kings 13-24. what is the message one is suppose to learn from this event...godly and un-godly men of God? One Godly man was killed, it appears to me as an unjustly act but I am sure there is a truth buried here that I fail to understand. Please explain.

In that account you're reading, we see King Jeroboam (a bad king of Israel) had been sacrificing to idols on the altar. Then the man of God (a prophet) came to him & prophesied against that filthy altar that one day, Josiah (a good king of Judah) would desecrate those altars & indeed put the wicked priests themselves upon the altars to be burned. You can then read the rest of that encounter between Jeroboam & the prophet in that chapter, & indeed the folly of that prophet later in his disobedience to God that brought about his death. So the ashes in v 3, are not necessarily symbolic, but just signifying the death of those wicked priests, that both the ashes & the altars will be removed completely.

The ashes on the altar symbolize what? 2 who are the high priests that would be offer on the altar?

disobeying God is not a small thing!! It could cost you your life. It started in garden of Eden with eve

the prophet was tempted

Now let us say God told you to go to a foreign country but you drank the king's wine and ate the king's food that means you have forgotten what God told you do so that is why we must watch out for the devil's purpose for our life.
1st Corinthians 10 vs 12 says Let he who thinks he stands take heed lest he falls. This is the reasons why we should take heed of the devil's purpose. Thank you.

The church I attend - the pastor never teaches anything outside God's word. I know the word of God and everything our pastor teaches is dead on God's word. I take down all the scriptures he gives and look them up from time to time, but not to corroborate his message; I know God's word already. But no, I am not an expert on it; far far from it.

God is expecting us to do his will, not our will.

Now, check this out...so here's this prophet...an old prophet. And he LIES to the righteous prophet, tempting him to believe him (the other prophet) above the Lord. In some religions, it is taught that your pastor has veto power over anything that you think God has told you. Think about this passage the next time you are tempted to trust spiritual leadership over God's word to you.

God wants us to listen to Him above man. God sent instructions to His prophet and if they changed, the prophet should have listen for God to come back to Him. With so many different versions and opinions out today, the Bible is designed to lead us to listening to God. Jesus came to give each of us that personal access and we need to use the Old and New Testament to learn how to listen to God.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO LISTEN TO GOD BECAUSE GOD HONORS HIS WORDS. WE AS CHRISTIANS SHOULD ALWAYS BE ALERT FOR SATAN.

When reading this passage, I was reminded that we must be careful lest, after testifying of God's Word, we ourselves become castaways.

The old prophet may not have gotten a word from the Lord in a long time and had gotten jealous when the younger prophet produced such a marvelous sign. At any rate, God's scales of justice work perfectly, and we can rest assured that the old prophet was punished for his lie either in this life or the next.