Discuss 1 Kings 4

Psalm 20 review.

Verses 1 through 5 in this Psalm show us how God generally hears from His sanctuary and is there for them. Verse 5 describes banners; and given the theme of the other Psalms it is likely that a military campaign and victory from God is seen here. Verse 6 discusses how God's "anointed" will be heard from heaven with the strength of "his right hand". That could more specifically be David; or perhaps his son or any other king.

The trusting in chariots and horses in verse 7 brought the downfall of Solomon later on. 1 Kings 4:26 shows he did this anyway; and the other warnings in scripture such as Deut. 17:16 and 2 Chronicles 1:17 were ignored (not to mention his warning not to marry women who would lead him astray with foreign gods).

David trusted in his own numbers as well as we see in 1 Chronicles chapter 21 (Satan himself motivated him and God allowed it). It is hard to tell the timing of that event if it was before or after this Psalm was written. The last verse asks God to save; but king is not capitalized; so it seems he would be asking the king to respond (which of course would be an admonishment to everyone else when he was king unless it was written beforehand when Saul was king). Perhaps someone can help me clarify that passage.

Hi Brenda. In Ecclesiastes 1:1, the preacher is clearly Solomon, King David's son, & king in Jerusalem. No one else could fit that description. The word, 'preacher' is used here, but in Hebrew, it comes out as a 'teacher, a convener of people'. And so he was: not only a king but also one who taught the people, as is written about him in 1 Kings 4:29-34 & 1 Kings 10:23,24.

Verse 30-As great as the wisdom of Solomon was, Jesus had the greatest wisdom of a man that ever walked this earth. We have some of Jesus' wise saying recorded in the Bible and we should look for and follow that wisdom if we want to be wise ourselves.

Shirley,

Galatians 5:22

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,"

God Bless.

1 John 4:8 - He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 Peter 4:8 - And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

Galatians 5:22 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Romans 8:6 - For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

1 Thessalonians 4:4 - That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;

Romans 13:10 - Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Ephesians 4:1-3 - I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, (Read More...)

1 John 4:7 - Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

Colossians 3:14 - And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

Ephesians 5:9 - (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

1 Corinthians 13:13 - And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Matthew 7:15-20 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (Read More...)

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 Corinthians 13:1-5 - Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity (LOVE) I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal__

Judge a man by it's fruit what is a fruit in this context

Psalms and Proverbs

King Solomon wrote most of it

1 Kings 4:29-34

And God gave Solomon wisdom and understanding exceeding much, and largeness of heart, even as the sand that is on the sea shore.

30 And Solomon's wisdom excelled the wisdom of all the children of the east country, and all the wisdom of Egypt.

31 For he was wiser than all men; than Ethan the Ezrahite, and Heman, and Chalcol, and Darda, the sons of Mahol: and his fame was in all nations round about.

And there came of all people to hear the wisdom of Solomon, from all kings of the earth, which had heard of his wisdom.

1 Kings 10:27 was the verse for Solomon multiplying silver, not 1 Kings 4:27.

It is also interesting to me that apart from being chosen by God and being an Israelite, in nearly all other respects Solomon didn't gain the wisdom to apply to himself Deuteronomy 17:14-20. He instead gave himself over to his earthly appetites in multiplying horses ( 1 Kings 4:26), wives ( 1 Kings 11:3), and gold ( 1 Kings 10:14) and silver ( 1 Kings 4:27)

23. So king Solomon exceeded all the kings OF THE EARTH, for riches and for wisedome. 24. And ALL THE EARTH sought to Solomon, to heare his wisedom which God had put in his heart. ( 1 Kings 4:23-24).

Christ has fulfilled Deuteronomy 17:14-20. He is God's true choice for king to reign over all his brethren, and rather than turning His heart or the people's heart away from God or exalting Himself above His brother's as Solomon and even more foolishly Solomon's son Rehoboam did ( 1 Kings 12:4-17), He fulfilled God's will and humbled Himself in the upper room and in His death on the cross.

As I just read your post I was just reminded 1st time I've ever noticed. 1 Kings 11:1-14, Proverbs 4:7, Ecclesiastes 7:12, 1 Kings 4:34, Deuteronomy 7:3-4,

Did his son lose respect because of what he witnessed his father Solomon doing? Did he think of that generation as hypothetical? Because of action?

Then I just thought of Now generations. I believe the young generation that says "ok, boomer" to the oldest generation has watched the results of Abortion, that started during the Oldest generation's "WATCH" not correcting the next generation.

Then the generation X, (did it derive name because they were 1st legal abortion babies?) were & are treated with scorn, disregard, disrespect & often cruelly from those establishments hypothetically calling themselves "church" even robbed their parenting rights, from those same people who were pushing others even own children to abort living heirs?!!

Now oldest generation telling Millenials & Gen Z's to "work to help pay for their retirements"?/? How can children respect if no one shows them how?

Please pray about how you can heal, help, encourage, uplift those younger Generations because love, examples & truth in real faith will help.

With love my brother, in CHRIST

Matthew 6:29, Matthew 12:42,

I have understood in wisdom & splendor Solomon was famous, 1 Kings 4:1,21,22,23,24,25,26,27, 1 Kings 4:29-34

However 1 Kings 11:4,

1 Corinthians 15:24

"Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power."

1 Corinthians 15:25

"For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet."

Yahawah bahasham Yahawashi is going to destroy these earthly governments. The so called ruling elites are finished. There will be no hiding place for the wicked. No doubt about it.

17 nations (for the Most High Yahawah only created 18 nations) are going into slavery for 1000 years for causing untold destruction and brutality to the LORD's chosen people: The Israelites. Then the Edomites are going to be destroyed according to the Book of Obadiah, Jeremiah 49 and Ezekiel 25 just a few examples to support the prophecy.

Kingdom of Heaven is the inheritance of the Israelites. Read Hebrews 8:8 the new covenant is only for the House of Israel 12 tribes.

Hebrews 8:7

"For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second."

Hebrews 8:8

"For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:"

John 8:32

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

Those are great examples of Gods grace even to others outside of The children of Israel, that came to Israel and said we want worship your God His way. Made available to fullest extent after day of pentecost by Jesus Christ.

Hiya Henry but you do greatly err. Remember Solomon the wisest king in the O.T. When he didicated his great new temple he made interession for the Gentiles,The strangers that is not of thy ppl Israel but have come from a faraway country, if they shall come and worship in this Temple hear thou from heaven thy dwelling place and do all that the stranger asked of thee that THY NAME mighty be great in all the world. Solomon had his arms raised to heaven and was making interession for the Gentiles approx a 1000 yrs before Christ and here comes Christ preaching in the temple about Naaman a Syrian a leper that God had sent Elijah to when in fact there were many other lepers in Israel that Elijah was not sent to at that time,But Naaman a SYRIAN WAS HEALED was made Clean long b/f Israel . Abraham himself was a Syrian Duet 26 : 5.

Henry that reply was not to ! kings 4, communication error somewhere God Bless.

When you say spiritually deliver "us" are you an Israelite Dianne? If not there is no salvation for you only judgment. Salvation is only for the Israelites.

Acts 5:30

"The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree."

Acts 5:31

"Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins."

Luke 1:68

"Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,"

Luke 1:69

"And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;"

Luke 1:70

"As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:"

Luke 1:71

"That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;"

Luke 1:77

"To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,"

John 8:32

Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

I think you'll find that you've inherited lies Dianne.

Jeremiah 16:19

"O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit."

Hi Henry just something to consider Jesus Christ came to spiritually deliver us and meet our physical needs not to change government systems. God Bless

There is no healing America otherwise known as Babylon the great! According to prophecy it is going to receive ICBMs from Russia and China and be nuked out of existence. Read Isaiah 13 and 14 Ezekiel 25.

This is the end of reign of the wicked. Esau-Edom are finished. The American empire is crumbling! A nation that was established on the genocide of the so called native Indians (Israelites of the northern kingdom) Then built on the backs of so called blacks (Israelites of the southern kingdom) during the transatlantic slave trade. 2 Esdras 6:9 For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.

I will pray that the president the citizens voted for can return to the white house so that this country can heal from all the damage done. People know the injustices that have been done and are now aware of all the lies and deceit some political groups are involved in. Hell is a real place and unless people turn from their ways to follow Jesus it should be no surprise where most everyone from Washington DC will go.

Through out the Bible, as well as secular history, we can recognize the grace of our Lord, and His mercies upon all who trust in Him. This chapter shows the height and depth of the blessings God bestowed on the king and the people of Israel.

Other nations profited also because of this blessing on the Israelites. This would be in the form of trade, agriculture, science, political peace, and many other areas.

We must, in this current Pandemic, be wise to lean on the Lord and trust in Him. We should pray diligently for our President Joe Biden and his current administration to wake up and look to The Lord Jesus Christ to bring us thru our current crisis.

May the Lord's hand be evident on all who are on this platform. May the Salvation of Christ be foremost in our hearts for all before the Lord comes. God bless our nation. August 2021

Hello Harley. I doubt if this passage is what you're thinking of, but it's the closest that I can think of that fulfils your requirements.

Leviticus 25:10: "And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile(e) unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family."

This whole chapter speaks about God's commandment to Israel concerning the Year of Jubilee. This was different to every seventh year that was a Sabbath of rest for the land - to refrain from planting & harvesting. The Year of Jubilee was seven Sabbaths of years (i.e. 49 years), at which time, on the fifteeth year, the proclamation would go out to that all slaves, those of Israel who were bonded to another as servants, matters of property sales, the state of the poor, etc., would find relief & be freed from their obligations. If the matter was about a person, they were set free to return to their homes. And all this was to remind Israel that they are bond-servants to God, were once in slavery in Egypt, but were freed from them by God's Hand & Power. Likewise, Israel ought to deal favourably with others as God dealt with them.

And 1 Kings 4:25 comes to mind: "And Judah and Israel dwelt safely, every man under his vine and under his fig tree, from Dan even to Beersheba, all the days of Solomon." Under King Solomon, Judah & Israel found peace so each person (family) were able to live securely in their own home (or, under his vine..under his fig tree).

However, if you're thinking of a New Testament verse, then if you could expand on the quote you gave.

Hello Jack Gutknecht,

I want to just clarify an issue that you pointed out here. This is not an error or typo. The texts are saying that King Solomon has 10 chariot cities with 4000 chariots in each city. Altogether he has 40,000 chariots. Hope this helps. God bless you

Hello fire fighter, thanks for your service.

I would like to comment on your post here. Yes the wine Jesus made (His first miracle), was alcoholic. Grapes preserved over certain time, produces wine alcohol. Do you know that cane juice over time produces rum which is very alcoholic? This is what you call the brewing process.

The difference between biblical use of alcohol and alcohol use today is, in biblical times it was used to preserve and spice food and drinks. But as usual, mankind always find a way to abuse everything. In today's day, the abuse still goes on even though we have refrigerators. We also found other use of alcohol like temperature gauges, fuel consumption, medical sciences and many other uses. And who knows, there might still be more use for it in the future.

My point here is, it's not the alcohol that's the problem, it's us using it inappropriately. Like the Apostle Paul said, a L I T T L E wine is good for the stomach. God bless you

I'm a retired firefighter that lived with the guys I worked with every third day for close to thirty years! One discussion (which most of the time turned out to be arguments )that we would have from time to time was on the subject of Christians drinking alcohol. I realize that back in Bible times that wine was a common drink but I also believe that it was not always alcohol but sometimes grape juice. When Jesus turned the water into wine I don't believe that it was an alcoholic drink simply because why would he make people that were at the marriage supper drunker than they already were if what they were drinking was an alcoholic wine to begin with? We all know the dangers and heart ache that alcohol can bring to a family and individuals! The way I see it is that it is impossible to get hooked on anything that you never try!!

Also called "Song of Songs" (1:1) which means 'the best of (Solomon's) songs'. Solomon was the author & this is only one of 1005 songs & 3000 proverbs that he wrote ( 1 Kings 4:32). This is a poem in dialogue form (may not have been put to a tune) & it describes Solomon's love for a Shulamite girl. He, as a King, comes in disguise to her family's vineyard, wins her heart & ultimately makes her his bride.

Some see this song or poem as purely an allegory, i.e. one with fictional characters employed to teach others of God's love for His people. But we know it is historically correct. Others see it as an actual historical account that shows Solomon's romance with this girl (showing the joys of courtship & marriage) but also of God's intimate love for His people. And yet others, see only the historical account with no picture of God's Love. We could then ask, 'why was this book placed into the Canon of Scripture'? But one would have to deal with it carefully when bringing out God's Love in this account.

Thank you Jack. I appreciated that clear explanation - sounds very plausible as minor textual (copyist) errors have been noted from time to time. Of course, these don't in any way take away from the veracity of Scripture, but it bears remembering that such small inconsistencies can appear, as in any writing/publication, that shouldn't warrant our complete rejection of the whole.

1 Kings 4:26-How can this verse say Solomon had 40,000 stalls when 2 Chronicles 9:25 says he had only 4,000 stalls?

Problem: In recording the prosperity of Solomon, this passage states that he had 40,000 stalls of horses for his chariots. However, 1 Chronicles 9:25 affirms that Solomon had only 4,000 stalls for horses. Which one is right?

Solution: This is undoubtedly a copyist error. The ratio of 4,000 horses to 1,400 chariots, as found in the 2 Chronicles passage, is much more reasonable than a ratio of 40,000 to 1,400 found in the 1 Kings text. In the Hebrew language, the visual difference between the two numbers is very slight. The consonants for the number 40 are rbym,? while the consonants for the number 4 are rbh (the vowels were not written in the text). The manuscripts from which the scribe worked may have been smudged or damaged and have given the appearance of being forty thousand rather than four thousand.

What you're reading in 1 Kings 12:3-5,9, refers to mainly the high taxes that Solomon imposed upon the people. Even though we read in 2 Chronicles 8:7,8, that harsh taxes were imposed on those not of Israel that lived amongst them, we see that all of Israel suffered because of the taxes.

Solomon extracted taxes, goods & services from the people in various ways & these were done primarily for the building of the Temple (though, King David actually had already procured most of the materials for them), but also for the other buildings to house his many wives & concubines. He established twelve districts to sustain the king & his household each month through taxation ( 1 Kings 4:7); he conscripted labour from Israel ( 1 Kings 5:13-18); taxed merchants & trade ( 1 Kings 10:15); and received tribute from other nations ( 1 Kings 4:21).

And particularly for the common man, such high taxation became a heavy burden to bear, where some did their normal work during the day, then had to contribute their time after work in Solomon's building projects. So the people protested such burdens & appealed to Solomon's successor, Rehoboam to have pity on them. Rather, he raised the taxes even further causing Jeroboam to lead the people in revolt, hence the divisions of the Kingdoms (Judah & Israel): 1 Kings 12:16-27.

It's noteworthy, that Samuel much earlier prophesied about the inevitability of taxation & other demands ( 1 Sam 8:11-22) as the people demanded a king as the other nations had.

It's the tribute of Solomon who was was wise, 1 Kings 4:30, but Jesus is greatet, Matthew 12:42. It's in 1 Kings 10:14. This was about the time Solomon's wisdom was running out, because he turned to other gods and did evil, 1 Kings 11, and his yoke was grievous 1 Kings 12:11, and he wasn't suppose to multiply gold to himself. Or wives for that matter etc. Deuteronomy 17:17. It's also a riddle

It's the tribute of Solomon who was was wise, 1 Kings 4:30, but Jesus is greatet, Matthew 12:42. It's in 1 Kings 10:14. This was about the time Solomon's wisdom was running out, because he turned to other gods and did evil, 1 Kings 11, and his yoke was grievous 1 Kings 12:11, and he wasn't suppose to multiply gold to himself. Or wives for that matter etc. Deuteronomy 17:17. It's also a riddle