Discuss 2 Chronicles 13

  • Richard H Priday - 10 months ago
    Proverbs 29:1 KJ21 He that, being often reproved, stiffeneth his neck shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

    This is the fate of all the unregenerate who do not repent. A prime example is Pharoah during Moses' extensive dialogue with him warning of his fate defying God's will when it came to the sacrifice that his people desired in the desert. One should note that it was only requested for a short trip for this ceremony at first but eventually Pharoah drove them out and yet once again attempted to capture them to enslave them before his armies were destroyed in the Red Sea. Pharoah himself may not have been there but it seems his fate was sealed.

    We see evidences such as 2 Chronicles 13:10-13 where Manasses repented after doing horrible abominations in the land; but we also see verses that state that even though they pray to God those devoted to destruction will not be heard ( Jeremiah 11:11 and Micah 3:4).

    In seeing these examples; we ought to not test God as they were warned in the wilderness. We are warned not to rebuke a fool either ( Prov. 9:8). We should listen to God the first time; and realize that He chastens all He loves; and the opposite therefore indicates that without that discipline we are not His own as we see comparing Peter in the Bible to Judas Iscariot. All of us have a death sentence due to sin; but some choose to come to their end sooner through particularly evil lifestyles and behaviors.

    No amount of pride brings joy; and our minds can only find solace in being left alone in our state once we have lost all pleasure in worldly things due to aging. Proverbs 5:14 talks about being almost in ruin in the congregation due to sins; but that is preferable to pining away alone; for Solomon saw this reality also in Ecclesiastes seeing that all things apart from God were vanity. In short; a saved man sees His old life crucified; new life in Christ and the Body of believers his adopted family (see Ephesians 1:23).
  • David on 2 Chronicles 13 - 3 years ago
    Praise the Lord for His daily benefits. Let your face so shine on us today.

    October 8, 2021
  • Stanjett - In Reply on 2 Chronicles 13 - 5 years ago
    Is it good vs evil? I don't know but leave it in Gods hands. I will fight to the death against the devil.
  • Arma franklin - In Reply on 2 Chronicles 13 - 5 years ago
    god so love the world he gave his son so that we might have a everlasting life, when adam and eve ate the forbidden fruit it gave them knowledge of themselves, so god punish adam and eve and pass it down to all generation.
  • F.wilson on 2 Chronicles 13 - 5 years ago
    Why is it that GOD does so many good things for the people of ISRAEL and they always goes back to sin against GOD. with everything that GOD has done from the every beginning even from GENESIS. I need to know??, GOD BLESS.
  • Ren on 2 Chronicles 13 - 7 years ago
    Actually it does say which one was his birth mother over in 2 Chronicles 11:20 And after her he took Maachah the daughter of Absalom; which bare him Abijah, and Attai, and Ziza, and Shelomith.
  • Lu2677 on 2 Chronicles 13 - 9 years ago
    Hi Rachel, 2 Chronicles 13; obviously Abijah could not have two birth mother's. His father had multiple wives as it states a few verses later. We don't know which one would be his birth mother it does not say. The other one listed as his mother would either be a step mother or surrogate mother.
  • Rachel on 2 Chronicles 13 - 9 years ago
    Why does it list 2 different women as Abijah's mother? First it says Maachah, Rehoboam's favorite wife. Then it says Michaiah?
  • Margaret on 2 Chronicles 13 - 10 years ago
    In the following question displayed below, it does not display Rehoboam and Michaiah as one of the multiple choices for Abijah 's parents.
  • Steve on Daniel 8 - 12 years ago
    Actually, concerning the 'ereb boqer (evenings, mornings) of verse 14, the Adventists are not in error on this point. It's all in the word order. "Evening and morning" is the Biblical language used for meaning one day. This principle is set forth in the book of Genesis:

    "So the evening and the morning were the first day." (1:5)

    "So the evening and the morning were the second day." (1:8)

    "So the evening and the morning were the third day." (1:13)

    And so forth. In the Bible, days begin in the evening. Hence the reason the Lord said "from evening to evening, you shall celebrate your sabbath" ( Leviticus 23:32). The morning, then, would be the second part of the day.

    However, with regards to sacrifices, this order is reversed. Instead of evening and morning, the language use for offerings is morning and evening. This is made plain in the following examples:

    Exodus 29:39
    One lamb you shall offer in the morning, and the other lamb you shall offer at twilight ['ereb].

    Numbers 28:4
    The one lamb you shall offer in the morning, the other lamb you shall offer in the evening.

    2 Kings 16:15
    On the great new altar burn the morning burnt offering, the evening grain offering...

    1 Chronicles 16:40
    to offer burnt offerings to the Lord on the altar of burnt offering regularly morning and evening...

    2 Chronicles 2:4
    ...for the burnt offerings morning and evening, on the Sabbaths, on the New Moons, and on the set feasts of the LORD our God...

    2 Chronicles 13:11
    And they burn to the LORD every morning and every evening burnt sacrifices and sweet incense...

    Thus the phrase "morning" and "evening" became the staple for signifying sacrificial offerings all throughout Scripture. As Siegfried Schwantes points out, this expression perpetuated into the post-Old Testament when the Apocrypha came about. 1 Esdras 5:50 says, "and they offered sacrifices according to the time, and burnt offerings to the Lord both morning and evening."

    Now, if the text in Daniel 8:14 had stated 2300 mornings and evenings, then a case could be made that the passage was, indeed, talking about sacrifices (though, I think, it would still seem that each morning and evening would stand for a day). However, the text doesn't use that order. Rather, it says "evenings and mornings" which, as indicated above, is the language used for a day. So, the KJV rendering of 'ereb boqer as meaning "days" may be a bit interpretive, but it is by no means inaccurate. The translators knew what they were doing in this case. So, understanding that the expression means 2300 days and applying the year-day principle to this text (which had also been done from time to time prior to the Millerite movement), the doctrine that this is a 2300 year prophecy stands upon firm ground.


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