Discuss 2 Esdras 15

  • AndreaDona - In Reply on Malachi 4 - 1 year ago
    2 Esdras 15:28-45

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    "Behold a horrible vision, and the appearance thereof from the east: Where the nations of the dragons of Arabia shall come out with many chariots, and the multitude of them shall be carried as the wind upon earth, that all they which hear them may fear and tremble. Also the Carmanians (Iran) raging in wrath shall go forth as the wild boars of the wood, and with great power shall they come, and join battle with them, and shall waste a portion of the land (Afghanistan) of the Assyrians.

    And then shall the dragons have the upper hand, remembering their nature (Taliban); and if they shall turn themselves, conspiring together in great power to persecute them, then these shall be troubled bled, and keep silence through their power, and shall flee. And from the land of the Assyrians shall the enemy besiege them, and consume some of them, and in their host shall be fear and dread, and strife among their kings.



    Behold clouds from the east and from the north unto the south, and they are very horrible to look upon, full of wrath and storm. They shall smite one upon another, and they shall smite down a great multitude of stars upon the earth, even their own star; and blood shall be from the sword unto the horse's belly, and dung of men unto the camel's hough.



    And there shall be great fearfulness and trembling upon earth: and they that see the wrath shall be afraid, and trembling shall come upon them. And then shall there come great storms from the south, and from the north, and another part from the west. And strong winds shall arise from the east, and shall open it; and the cloud which he raised up in wrath, and the star stirred to cause fear toward the east and west wind, shall be destroyed (detonated). The great and mighty clouds shall be puffed up full of wrath, and the star, that they may make all the earth afraid, and them that dwell therein; and they shall pour out over every high and eminent place a horrible star.
  • AndreaDona - In Reply - 2 years ago
    2 Esdras 15:28-45

    "Behold a horrible vision and the appearance thereof from the East: Where the nations of the dragons of Arabia shall come out with many chariots, and the multitude of them shall be carried as the wind upon earth, that all they which hear them may fear and tremble. Also, the Carmanians (Iran) raging in wrath shall go forth as the wild boars of the wood, and with great power shall they come, and join battle with them, and shall waste a portion of the land of the Assyrians.

    And then shall the dragons have the upper hand, remembering their nature (Taliban); and if they shall turn themselves, conspiring together in great power to persecute them, Then these shall be troubled bled, and keep silence through their power, and shall flee. And from the land of the Assyrians shall the enemy besiege them, and consume some of them, and in their host shall be fear and dread, and strife among their kings.

    Behold clouds from the East and from the North unto the South, and they are very horrible to look upon, full of wrath and storm. They shall smite one upon another, and they shall smite down a great multitude of stars upon the earth, even their own star; and blood shall be from the sword unto the horse's belly, And dung of men unto the camel's hough.

    And there shall be great fearfulness and trembling upon earth: and they that see the wrath shall be afraid, and trembling shall come upon them. And then shall there come great storms from the South, and from the North, and another part from the West. And strong winds shall arise from the East and shall open it, and the cloud which he raised up in wrath, and the star stirred to cause fear toward the East and West wind, shall be destroyed (detonated).

    The great and mighty clouds shall be puffed up full of wrath, and the star, that they may make all the earth afraid, and them that dwell therein; and they shall pour out over every high and eminent place a horrible star."
  • AndreaDona - 2 years ago
    2 Esdras 15:28-45

    "Behold a horrible vision and the appearance thereof from the East: Where the nations of the dragons of Arabia shall come out with many chariots, and the multitude of them shall be carried as the wind upon earth, that all they which hear them may fear and tremble. Also, the Carmanians (Iran) raging in wrath shall go forth as the wild boars of the wood, and with great power shall they come, and join battle with them, and shall waste a portion of the land of the Assyrians.

    And then shall the dragons have the upper hand, remembering their nature (Taliban); and if they shall turn themselves, conspiring together in great power to persecute them, Then these shall be troubled bled, and keep silence through their power, and shall flee. And from the land of the Assyrians shall the enemy besiege them, and consume some of them, and in their host shall be fear and dread, and strife among their kings (Afghanistan).

    Behold clouds from the East and from the North unto the South, and they are very horrible to look upon, full of wrath and storm. They shall smite one upon another, and they shall smite down a great multitude of stars upon the earth, even their own star; and blood shall be from the sword unto the horse's belly, And dung of men unto the camel's hough.

    And there shall be great fearfulness and trembling upon earth: and they that see the wrath shall be afraid, and trembling shall come upon them. And then shall there come great storms from the South, and from the North, and another part from the West. And strong winds shall arise from the East and shall open it, and the cloud which he raised up in wrath, and the star stirred to cause fear toward the East and West wind, shall be destroyed (detonated).

    The great and mighty clouds shall be puffed up full of wrath, and the star, that they may make all the earth afraid, and them that dwell therein; and they shall pour out over every high and eminent place a horrible star."
  • AndreaDona on 2 Esdras 15:1 - 2 years ago
    Revelation 18:2-9

    After this I saw another angel descending from heaven with great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his glory. And he cried out in a mighty voice:

    "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a lair for demons and a haunt for every unclean spirit, every unclean bird, and every detestable beast. All the nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her immorality. The kings of the earth were immoral with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown wealthy from the extravagance of her luxury."

    Then I heard another voice from heaven say:

    "Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues. For her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.

    Give back to her as she has done to others; pay her back double for what she has done; mix her a double portion in her own cup. As much as she has glorified herself and lived in luxury, give her the same measure of torment and grief.



    In her heart she says,

    'I sit as queen; I am not a widow and will never see grief.'

    Therefore, her plagues will come in one day-death and grief and famine-and she will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her."

    Then the kings of the earth who committed sexual immorality and lived in luxury with her will weep and wail at the sight of the smoke rising from the fire that consumes her. In fear of her torment, they will stand at a distance and cry out:

    "Woe, woe to the great city, the mighty city of Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come."
  • AndreaDona on 2 Esdras 15:1 - 2 years ago
    Revelation 17:4-5

    "The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls.

    She held in her hand a golden cup

    full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality.

    And on her forehead a mysterious name was written:

    BABYLON THE GREAT,

    THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES

    AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH

    _________________________________________________________

    'The New Colossus'

    Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame (nude male)

    With conquering limbs astride from land to land; (Colossus of Rhodes, Babylon)

    Here at OUR sea-washed, SUNSET GATES shall stand

    A mighty woman with a torch

    whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning,

    and her name:

    Mother of Exiles Lazarus

    ___________________________________________________

    Jeremiah 51:6-7

    "Flee from Babylon! Escape with your lives! Do not be destroyed in her punishment. For this is the time of the Lord's vengeance; He will pay her what she deserves.

    Babylon was a gold cup in the hand of the Lord, making the whole earth drunk. The nations drank her wine; therefore the nations have gone mad."
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I believe you're asking for references in scripture for: 2 Esdras 15:3 , Psalm 37, Psalm 2:1, Psalm 21:8,11, hopefully these are helpful
  • Tom M - In Reply - 3 years ago
    It is possible that Gog is Russia but not exactly. If one follows the linage of Japheth you will find that Japheth begat Magog. Here is the mystery. Magog and I believe Gomer settled in what is now the Caucasus (Caucasian) mountains on the southern tip of Russia. And there is a lot of evidence that it was Magog via his family including his father, that are responsible for the concept and lineage of the Arian group of people. Also don't forget that Gomer, Japheth's brother begat Ashkenaz as in Ashkenazi Jews... You know them by their fruits and Jesus refers to them often ("...and I know the blasphemy of them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan") .There is also pretty solid information that this was the origin of the Jesuits as well who have taken over most all nations. It is written that this family was so powerful it literally took over Europe and the Americas. Like it or not, this is the family who had originated the concept and the practice of white superiority. At present this bloodline is the most powerful of elitists in the world. So, is God/Magog really Russia? I don't think so. It comprises most, if not all, the elitists of the present day world, yes including Putin. And as you see from events in the Middle East, especially, the persecution of Israel, this is a coordinated effort brought forth from the 10 horns, the EU - Maygog. I would be more concerned about the "dragon kings of the east" as explained in 2 Esdras 15:29, who team with Elam (Iran) to attack Israel which will spill the world into war and make ripe the revealing of the Antichrist. As you may have noticed recently, China and Iran have entered into a 25 year pact touted as a economic agreement, but there's more, that I am sure of. "Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known." Matthew 10:26.
  • The Holy Ghost on 2 Esdras 15:1 - 3 years ago
    (The fear of THE LORD, given one thousand, one hundred, ninety and two Sabbath days past, it was written, of GOD: What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the Sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out? How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the Sabbath days. For the Son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day. And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when IT IS COME to pass, ye might believe. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come:) Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding. The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. O people: If you will not observe to do all the words of this law that are written, that you may fear this glorious and fearful name, MICHAEL ISAAC, THE LORD THY GOD, even the CHRIST child; then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful and the plagues of thy seed: even great plagues and of long continuance: and sore sicknesses and of long continuance. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: I commanded all men everywhere to repent that your sins may be blotted out. Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud. It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. Man that dug down my alters and covered my memorials: and attempted to corrupt my Word to oppress my people; have violated exceedingly more than any copyright! I AM he that lives, and was dead; and, behold, I AM alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
  • Michael on 2 Esdras 15:17 - 4 years ago
    Usa will de destroyed
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Esdras 15:49 - 4 years ago
    Revelation 20:10 tells us that the Devil, with the beast (anti-christ) & the false prophet will be cast into the Lake of Fire (not hell), and be tormented day & night forever & ever. I understand that Satan & his cohorts will finally be banished into this fiery lake & therefore sin & suffering will no longer be the unholy blots on humanity. In hell now, Satan has a field day bringing the majority of mankind into its burning bowels; but at the time of Jesus' reign on Earth, he too will be suffering eternally with all those who have not bent the knee to Almighty God & made Christ's sacrifice something to be despised.
  • Stephen Ambrose on 2 Esdras 15:49 - 4 years ago
    What happens to the devil when Jesus throws the Devil into the new hell
  • Stephen Dixon on 2 Esdras 15:1 - 4 years ago
    In 2nd Esdras, is the writer talking about the times that we are in now or in times past


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