Discuss 2 Kings 8

  • Isaiahj - 10 months ago
    2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began his reign after his father died.

    2 Chronicles 22:2 Ahaziah was 42 when he began his reign.

    I've heard numerous explanations; I am looking for a consensus viewpoint.

    Was there a mistranslation as it was supposed to say "Sum of Years" as in the 42 years of reign that had passed since the house of Omri. Or was it mistranslated and intended to say 22 years like 2 Kings. Or is there another explanation.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    That is a good observation Avinash, as we on these pages have picked up on this before. This has nothing to do with this KJBO Site's presentation of the King James Bible, as they have given it verbatim from the written Scriptures.

    This discrepancy with King Ahaziah's age as he went to the throne after his father Jehoram, found in these passages in 2 Kings 8:26 & 2 Chronicles 22:2, is what is termed as a 'copyist error'. That is, when the Old Testament Scriptures were being copied (& they were copied many many times over that period), sometimes an error crops up. In this case, as I've read, in the Hebrew language, the written form of the numbers "22 and 42" are very similar & is easy to make an error in copying. Some Bible translations have made the correction to '22', others have not. As we also see in, "His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri", where clearly, Athaliah was the grand-daughter of Omri (King of Israel) who married into the Kingdom of Judah.
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Chronicles 21 - 1 year ago
    Hi Catherine. I'm unsure where you got that detail from, as my study of the chronology of events during this period show differently. If I might share my gleanings.

    In the Kingdom of Judah: King Jehoshapat reigned from 873-848 ( 1 Kings 22:41) and then his son Jehoram was co-regent with him from 853 ( 2 Kings 8:16). After his father died, he continued in his reign (i.e. from 853 & then continued on from 848-841).

    In the Kingdom of Israel: King Ahab reigned from 874-853 ( 1 Kings 16:29) & the Prophet Elijah was alive at that time ( 1 Kings 17:1). Elijah also lived & ministered under the next king, King Ahaziah's reign (853-852; 1 Kings 22:51) and then into the reign of King Jehoram (852-841; 2 Kings 1:17). This king was also known as Joram. By the way, it is a coincidence that we see the two Jehorams reigning side-by-side in the two kingdoms; unfortunately, both were bad kings.

    When that "writing" (mentioned in 2 Chronicles 21:12) came to Jehoram, the King of JUDAH, (NOT Israel); though Elijah was actually a prophet to the Kingdom of Israel), Elijah would still have been alive. We're not told which year the 'letter' was sent, or received by Jehoram. The 'letter' might even have been delivered to Jehoram some time after Elijah's translation into Heaven, if Elijah wrote it just prior to his departure. So the way I understand it, is that Elijah was well & truly on Earth at this time, though possibly his age & distance may have prevented him from actually making that journey to Jerusalem in the southern kingdom.

    As a footnote, I should say that the reigning years of the various kings are taken from reliable sources that have done the calculations going back into biblical history & from other historical documents; i.e. I've not guesstimated those dates.
  • Cesar on 2 Chronicles 22 - 2 years ago
    I was wondering how we reconcile 2 Kings 8:26 with 2 Chronicles 22:2. Both say Ahaziah's age was different at the time of the beginning of his reign.
  • Ronnette Part 3 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Psalms 119:78 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Let the proud be ashamed; for they dealt perversely with me without a cause: but I will meditate in thy precepts.

    Psalms 119:46 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    I will speak of thy testimonies also before kings, and will not be ashamed.

    2 Kings 8:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And he settled his countenance stedfastly, until he was ashamed: and the man of God wept.

    Hosea 4:19 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    The wind hath bound her up in her wings, and they shall be ashamed because of their sacrifices.

    Romans 9:33 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    2 Corinthians 9:4 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Lest haply if they of Macedonia come with me, and find you unprepared, we (that we say not, ye) should be ashamed in this same confident boasting.

    2 Timothy 1:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    The Lord give mercy unto the house of Onesiphorus; for he oft refreshed me, and was not ashamed of my chain:

    Isaiah 45:17 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

    Job 11:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Should thy lies make men hold their peace? and when thou mockest, shall no man make thee ashamed?

    Romans 5:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 83 - 2 years ago
    Psalms 83, cross-reference,

    Vr 6 = Deuteronomy 23:3-6, Numbers 20:18-22, Numbers 24:18, Judges 11:17, 1 Kings 11:14, 2 Kings 3, 2 Kings 8:20,

    Vrs. 5 & 6 = 2 Kings 8:22,

    Vrs 6 & 7 = 1 Samuel 14:47,

    Ezekiel 25:12, Joel 3:19, Amos 1:9,

    Vrs 9 = Numbers 31:3-9, Joshua 13:21-32,

    Vrs 11 = Judges 7:25, vrs 6 & 11 = Judges 8,

    1 Chronicles 18:11, 1 Chronicles 18, whole chapter, 2 Chronicles 25:20-24,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 2 Chronicles 22 - 3 years ago
    2 Timothy 2:15

    Please also read 2 Kings 3, 2 Kings 12, 2 Kings 13, 2 Kings 14:1-3, pay very close attention to the differences because in these accounts it clarifies who the scripture refers to by details not necessarily the "name of the individual" there are very similar names buth differences in Jerusalem, Israel, Syria, differences in parents & even who they fought against. Significant details that should help you break down for truth. Please note also in 2 Kings the reigning of the son clearly seems to overlap as you described. Just like King David when he was still alive & sick, yet they both would retain "title". 2 Kings 13:1,9,

    2 Kings 9:1-9, 2 Kings 9:11-12 King of Israel, Jehu. 2 Kings 9:14-16, Jehu "conspired against Joram. (Hazel king of Syria)

    vrs 16. * Ahaziah king of Judah * 2 Kings 9:21, 2 Kings 9:22-24, 2 Kings 9:27,28 details buried in City of David. 2 Kings 9:29,

    2 Kings 8:7-15 "Hazael king of Syria" same guy? 2 Kings 10:31-32, 2 Kings 34-36,

    2 Kings 8:16-24,

    2 Kings 8:25-29, 22 yrs old Ahaziah over Jerusalem 1 yr,

    * 2 Kings 11:1-4 son of Ahaziah, keep reading 2 Kings 11:5-21, * (Son in biblical terms goes many generations) example: John 8:39

    This may be the account that clarifies the distinction you're looking for.

    1 Kings 22:51-53 details, 2 yrs over Israel Ahaziah,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Mishael - In Reply - 3 years ago
    The Book is the Bible. The story in Chronicles.

    "in a battle at Ramoth-gilead Jehoram, the king of Israel, had" "been wounded; and leaving his army there, had returned to" "Jezreel, whither his ally, Ahaziah, king of Judah, had also gone" "on a visit of sympathy with him ( 2 Kings 8:28, 29). The" "commanders, being left in charge of the conduct of the war, met" "in council; and while engaged in their deliberations, a" "messenger from Elisha appeared in the camp, and taking Jehu from" "the council, led him into a secret chamber, and there anointed" "him king over Israel, and immediately retired and disappeared (2" "Kings 9:5, 6). On being interrogated by his companions as to the" "object of this mysterious visitor, he informed them of what had" "been done, when immediately, with the utmost enthusiasm, they" blew their trumpets and proclaimed him king ( 2 Kings 9:11-14). "He then with a chosen band set forth with all speed to Jezreel," "where, with his own hand, he slew Jehoram, shooting him through" "the heart with an arrow (9:24). The king of Judah, when trying" "to escape, was fatally wounded by one of Jehu's soldiers at" "Beth-gan. On entering the city, Jehu commanded the eunchs of the" "royal palace to cast down Jezebel into the street, where her" mangled body was trodden under foot by the horses. Jehu was now "master of Jezreel, whence he communicated with the persons in" "authority in Samaria the capital, commanding them to appear" before him on the morrow with the heads of all the royal princes of Samaria. Accordingly on the morrow seventy heads were piled "up in two heaps at his gate. At "the shearing-house" (2 Kings" 10:12-14) other forty-two connected with the house of Ahab were "put to death ( 2 Kings 10:14). As Jehu rode on toward Samaria, he" "met Jehonadab (q.v.), whom he took into his chariot, and they" entered the capital together. By a cunning stratagem he cut off "all the worshippers of Baal found in Samaria ( 2 Kings 10:19-25),"
  • David on 2 Kings 8:26 - 3 years ago
    Praise the Lord for His omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence. I thank God and His faithfulness to His own Word that He will help us through this current spiritual famine we are in.

    Let's stand fast and do His will accord to scripture. Pray for the current leadership during this pandemic, but especially the situation in Afghanistan. God bless them with the mind of Christ. May the Lord "Blind" the eyes of the Taliban, so that our citizens, allies, and troops are able to evacuate without casualties.

    Thank you Lord for hearing our cries. August 2021
  • Cherry Dickerson - 3 years ago
    Biblical Contradictions in the form of a question:

    Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

    God did ( 2 Samuel 24: 1)

    Satan did ( I Chronicles 2 1:1)

    In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

    Eight hundred thousand ( 2 Samuel 24:9)

    One million, one hundred thousand ( I Chronicles 21:5)

    How many fighting men were found in Judah?

    Five hundred thousand ( 2 Samuel 24:9)

    Four hundred and seventy thousand ( I Chronicles 21:5)

    God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

    Seven ( 2 Samuel 24:13)

    Three ( I Chronicles 21:12)

    How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

    Twenty-two ( 2 Kings 8:26)

    Forty-two ( 2 Chronicles 22:2)

    How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?

    Eighteen ( 2 Kings 24:8)

    Eight ( 2 Chronicles 36:9)

    How long did he rule over Jerusalem?

    Three months ( 2 Kings 24:8)

    Three months and ten days ( 2 Chronicles 36:9)

    The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?

    Eight hundred ( 2 Samuel 23:8)

    Three hundred ( I Chronicles 11: 11)

    When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?

    After ( 2 Samuel 5 and 6)

    Before ( I Chronicles 13 and 14)

    How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?

    Two ( Genesis 6:19, 20)

    Seven ( Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark ( Genesis 7:8-9)

    When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?

    One thousand and seven hundred ( 2 Samuel 8:4)

    Seven thousand ( I Chronicles 18:4)

    How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?

    Three thousand six hundred ( 2 Chronicles 2:2)

    Three thousand three hundred ( I Kings 5:16)

    The list is practically endless.
  • Ryan - 3 years ago
    hello,

    please help me reconcile this contradicition??? i love the KJV, here it is:

    According to 2 Kings 8:26, Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began to reign, and reigned for one year in Jerusalem.

    2 Chronicles 22:2 gives his age as 42 years when his reign began in Jerusalem.

    which is it?
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 2 Kings 8 - 3 years ago
    Hi Pasquel,

    It will be difficult to comfort her out of the scripture if he died lost.

    I would say pray for her often, and be as close a friend that she would allow you to be, So she can see the love of Christ in you.

    I hope that helps you and her.

    God bless.
  • Carleton - In Reply on 2 Kings 8 - 3 years ago
    Hello Pasquel, thinking of your question perhaps one of the verses using the word humble may comfort this mother's heart in away that is helpful.

    God bless your words that come to mind.
  • Pasquel Sole on 2 Kings 8 - 3 years ago
    I'm a twice born.

    A Muslim women l know just lost her 20 year old son (possibly to drug OD)

    I can't seem to find fitting words from scripture.

    My mind just shakes it's head with loss.

    Any thoughts come to you......
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Romans 11 - 4 years ago
    John L - I believe that is true that all who are in Christ ARE the seed of Abraham as Paul states in Galations 3:29

    Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then ARE are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

    I do not see anything about "becoming" or "spiritual seed"

    and if Christians are divorced Israel of Jeremiah 3:8 that means they shall be the object of the wrath of Satan in the Tribulation.

    Jeremiah 3:8 "And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of DIVORCE divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."

    God divorced Israel with the promise of remarriage

    Jeremiah 31:31 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:"

    Jesus in Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    God promised Abraham he would be the Father of MANY NATIONS.

    Gen 17:5 - Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of MANY many nations have I made thee.

    If the "Jews" are all of Abraham, where are all these MANY "jewish nations"...?

    There is only one and it was created by the antichrist United Nations and one is not many.

    Either God lied (impossible) or the Jews are not all of Israel.

    Where are the MANY JEWISH NATIONS of Abraham?

    Judah and Israel were not the same people. God divorced Israel and not Judah. One tribe is not many

    The Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL

    Israel and judah had wars and different kings as well as different capitols. Jerusalem capitol of Judah.

    Samaria capitol of Israel.

    2 Kings 8:16 ...Joram the son of Ahab KING of ISRAEL, Jehoshaphat being then KING of JUDAH, ...
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on John 5:43 - 4 years ago
    God promised Abraham he would be the Father of MANY NATIONS.

    Gen 17:5 - Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of MANY many nations have I made thee.

    If the "Jews" are all of Abraham, where are all these MANY "jewish nations"...?

    There is only one and it was created by the antichrist United Nations and one is not many.

    Either God lied (impossible) or the Jews are not all of Israel.

    Where are the MANY JEWISH NATIONS of Abraham?

    Judah and Israel were not the same people. God divorced Israel and not Judah. One tribe is not many

    Jeremiah 3:8 - And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of DIVORCE; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

    The Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL

    Israel and judah had wars and different kings as well as different capitols. Jerusalem capitol of Judah.

    Samaria capitol of Israel.

    2 Kings 8:16 ...Joram the son of Ahab KING of ISRAEL, Jehoshaphat being then KING of JUDAH, ...

    1 Kings 21:1 ....had a vineyard, which was in Jezreel, hard by the PALACE of Ahab KING of SAMARIA.

    Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

    this verse says a new covenant with both Israel AND Judah. So how can they be the same?

    Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

    Romans 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

    Galatians 3:29. - And if ye be Christ's, then ARE ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 15 - 4 years ago
    God promised Abraham he would be the Father of MANY NATIONS.

    Gen 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of MANY many nations have I made thee.

    If the "Jews" are all of Abraham, where are all these MANY "jewish nations"...?

    There is only one and it was created by the antichrist United Nations and one is not many.

    Either God lied (impossible) or the Jews can be not all of Israel.

    Where are the MANY JEWISH NATIONS of Abraham?

    Judah and Israel were not the same people. God divorced Israel and not Judah. One tribe is not many

    Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of DIVORCE; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

    The Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL

    Israel and judah had wars and different kings as well as different capitols. Jerusalem capitol of Judah.

    Samaria capitol of Israel.

    2 Kings 8:16 ...Joram the son of Ahab KING of ISRAEL, Jehoshaphat being then KING of JUDAH, ...

    1 Kings 21:1 ....had a vineyard, which was in Jezreel, hard by the PALACE of Ahab KING of SAMARIA.

    Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

    this verse says a new covenant with both Israel AND Judah. So how can they be the same?

    Hosea 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

    Romans 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

    Galatians 3:29. - And if ye be Christ's, then ARE ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
  • Christ Magnified Glorifying Jesus on 2 Kings 8 - 6 years ago
    Day 99 of Bible in a Year Reading. More history, more sorrow and wicked leadership. God uses his prophets to warn and wonder those around him. Great time reading.
  • Anne on 2 Kings 8 - 9 years ago
    The Shunamite woman is still being blessed - a prophet's reward for what she did for the prophet in 2 Kings Chapter 4. God's word is truth.
  • Leah Michelle on 2 Kings 8 - 11 years ago
    The first 6 verses here are a must read for a woman looking for hope. This is the same woman from 2nd Kings chapter 4, God done so much for her then and he still continues to never forsake here.
  • RALPH M. WATERS on 2 Kings 8 - 12 years ago
    OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR IS ALL KNOWING. HE GIVES THIS GIFTS TO ALL MEN, SOME GIFTS ARE MORE PREVALENT. IN THIS CASE THE MAN OF GOD, KNEW OF THE FATE OF ANOTHER. ALSO, GOD ALL KNOWING NEW HOW THERE WOULD BE EVIL KINGS AFTER THE BLOOD LINE OF AHAB. HE, (GOD), ALL KNOWING, KNOWS OUR SHORTCOMINGS, HE KNOWS OUR STRENGTHS, HE KNOWS, OUR SECRET FAULTS. SO TODAY, AFTER READING THIS PASSAGE, IS SO ENCOURGING TO KNOW, THAT WE HAVE A VERY MERCIFUL GOD.
  • Fried on 2 Kings 8 - 12 years ago
    This powerful!
  • Barry Stone on 2 Kings 8 - 12 years ago
    Did Hazael kill The King, Benhadad of Syria?
  • May on Genesis 1 - 14 years ago
    Joe: If you have read the Bible you surely would have picked the condradiction's up. However if you haven't then I will enlighten you. Let me just say that the references that I'm about to quote may not be in your Bible as there are many Bibles available on the market that are used by different Christian sects each claiming that their Bible is translated as the word of God.The references I will quote comes from the Tyndale Bible.
    Jeremiah 8:8
    "How can you say we are wise because we have the the word of the Lord, when your teaches have twisted it by writing Lies"
    The Condradiction's In the Bible start from;
    In 2 Samuels 8:4 it reads
    "David captured 1700 charioteers and 20,000 foot solders, he crippled all the chariots except enough for 100 chariots".
    Now read
    1 Chronicles 18:4
    "David captured 1000 chariots, 7000 charioteers and 20,000 foot solders. He crippled all the chariots horses except for 100 chariots".
    Other examples are;
    2 Samuels 8:9-10
    1 Chronicles 18:9-10

    2 Kings 8:26
    2 Chronicles 22:2

    2 Samuels 6:23
    2 Samuels 21:8

    Genisis 6:3
    Genisis 9:29

    John 5:37
    John 14:9

    John 5:31
    John 8:14
    You see Jo All doctrines of modern Christianity are made by man. They are definitely not quotes from the bible For example;
    The Trinity, Divine Son ship Of Jesus Christ, Original sin and atonement.
    Jesus as he says in
    John 8:28 "I do nothing of myself"
    John 14:28 "My father is greater than I"
    Mark 12:29 "The Lord is ONE lord"
    Mark 13:32 "No one knows the day or hour when these things will happen not even the angles in heaven or the SON himself, ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS"
    The word Trinity is not Biblical nor is it used in any Bibles or Bible dictionaries. Trinity was never specifically mentioned by Jesus. The formation of the word "Trinity"was presented by Athenasius, an Egyptian Deacon from Alexandria and was accepted by the council of Nicea more than three centuries after Jesus had departed from this earth.
    Other such "Man made" decisions of the council contributed to the declaration of the Roman Sunday as the Christian Sabbath, and the establishment of December 25th as Jesus birthday. This was done in order to have a celebration that occurred on the same day as the birthday of the pagan gods such as Nimrod (Babylon god) Krishna, (Hindus god), Mithra (Greek god) and Dionysius (Bacchus of greece)who is named the only begotten son of Jupiter and was born of the virgin mother Demeter, on the 25th of December. As you can see the celebration of the birth of Jesus is clearly an idea of pagan decent. As clear as we can read in black and white the Bible forbids even the decoration of christmas trees;
    Jeremiah 10:3-4 "Their ways are fertile and foolish. They cut down a tree and a craftsman carves an idol". "They decorate it with gold and silver and than fasten it securely with hammer and nails so it won't fall over".
    The conclusions to my recent research on religion is that we so called true Christians are not even close to abiding by Gods laws, far from it. We are such Hippocrates.
    I hope this helps Jo, May God give you blessings
  • Josh on 2 Kings 8 - 14 years ago
    Here is an answer to the supposed contradiction

    Link
  • Veronica on 2 Kings 8 - 14 years ago
    Anonymous if you would read 2 Chronicles 22:2 it reads: Ahaziah was 22 years oldwhen he became king and reigned in Jerusalem one year. God bless.
  • Rex on 2 Kings 8 - 14 years ago
    This is a typo in this verion of King James. Please look in another King James bible. Mine show he was twenty-two years old in both book
  • Anonymous on 2 Kings 8:26 - 15 years ago
    i am having problem with 2 kings 8;26 ahaziah was 22 years old when he reigned Jerusalem but in 2 chronicles ahsziah was 42 years old when he reigned Jerusalem can you please respond thank you and god bless you.


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