Discuss 2 Samuel 19

My Brother in Christ Larry B:

Psalms 32:2 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Romans 4:6 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Romans 4:8 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

1 Samuel 22:15 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Did I then begin to enquire of God for him? be it far from me: let not the king impute any thing unto his servant, nor to all the house of my father: for thy servant knew nothing of all this, less or more.

2 Samuel 19:19 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

And said unto the king, Let not my lord impute iniquity unto me, neither do thou remember that which thy servant did perversely the day that my lord the king went out of Jerusalem, that the king should take it to his heart.

Isaiah 30:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

They were all ashamed of a people that could not profit them, nor be an help nor profit, but a shame, and also a reproach.

2 Samuel 19:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

And the people gat them by stealth that day into the city, as people being ashamed steal away when they flee in battle.

Hebrews 2:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Isaiah 33:9 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

The earth mourneth and languisheth: Lebanon is ashamed and hewn down: Sharon is like a wilderness; and Bashan and Carmel shake off their fruits.

1 John 2:28 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

Micah 3:7 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.

Ezekiel 36:32 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

Hebrews 11:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

Genesis 2:25 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

Job 6:20 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

They were confounded because they had hoped; they came thither, and were ashamed.

Isaiah 20:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

And they shall be afraid and ashamed of Ethiopia their expectation, and of Egypt their glory.

Joab serving King David : 2 Samuel 11:14-25, in context: 2 Samuel 11, 2 Samuel 14, 2 Samuel 24:4,8,9,10,11,12,13, 1 Chronicles 21:4-5,

1 Chronicles 26:27-28, 1 Chronicles 27:24,

Joab going outside of King David's orders, but for the good of David & Israel? 2 Samuel 18, 2 Samuel 19:1-8, 2 Samuel 24:1-3,

1 Chronicles 21:3, 1 Chronicles 21:6,

As Chris stated revenge, Joab had went after before: 1 Chronicles 11:6-8, 1 Chronicles 11:20, 2 Samuel 3:24-28, 2 Samuel 3:30,

1 Kings 1,

1 Kings 2:5-6, 1 Kings 2:22, 28-34,

Hopefully this is useful in your study

2 Samuel 9, 2 Samuel 9:3, established honesty, trust & had already served King Saul. Vrs 9-12 established obedience & service to King David & even his own "all that dwelt in his house" became servant to whom King David told him to serve.

2 Samuel 16:1-4, it was Ziba who met King David while David was in exile with gifts of provision during such a humbling moment ( 2Samuel 15,) 2 Samuel 19:17, 2 Samuel 19:24-30,

He divided what was Saul's originally 2 Samuel 9:9-10,

Hopefully this is helpful in your study. Proverbs 25:2

Hi Victor. I believe that it was jealousy & then revenge that caused Joab to kill Amasa. If you read 2 Samuel 17:25, you'll see that Amasa was made "captain of the host instead of Joab" by Absalom. Then 2 Samuel 19:13, King David confirmed Amasa's position "continually in the room of Joab". So, as soon as Joab got the chance, he took Amasa by surprise as Amasa didn't expect Joab to be approaching him with an evil intent & was murdered in cold blood (Joab was part of Abishai's army). Thus Joab's revenge for not being made captain of the host was fulfilled.

Mephibosheth and Ziba, who is lying?

I understand that when "Lot sat in the gate of Sodom" ( Genesis 19:1), this was a significant place for administration, welcoming visitors, or for policing/judgement. I've thought of Lot as having integrated himself well into that society & even risen to a level of holding a venerable position before its citizens. One can compare the use of the 'gate' in 2 Samuel 19:8; Esther 5:13; Psalm 69:12; Proverbs 22:22.

And in truth, the sins of Sodom were probably far more rampant in its many forms & intensities, that would have moved God in such a mighty way against that city's inhabitants. And even today, peoples & governments all over the world scoff & scorn the Word of God & the coming Day of Great Wrath upon them. Man will never learn, 'professing themselves to be wise, they showed themselves, fools'.

Did you notice? David feared GOD & would not lay his hand on GOD's anointted & felt remorseful for cutting Saul's garment.

1 Samuel 24:4,5,6 , 1 Samuel 24:10,

Saul also ripped Samuel's garment 1 Samuel 15:27 however 1 Samuel 15:28-29. Even after remorseful repentance 1 Samuel 15:29,30,35

Do think the significance of the clothing was a factor? 1 Samuel 2:19, His mother's sacrifice 1 Samuel 1:28

Saul pursued David to kill him: 1 Samuel 19:1,10,11,15,

& Saul ordered the prophets of GOD killed, possibly unarmed, their families, livestock & nursing babies included.; 1 Samuel 22:17,18,19 Same Saul that left the enemy King & livestock alive in disobedience to GOD's orders. 1 Samuel 15:1,2,3,8,9,

Psalms 105:15

David's mercy 2 Samuel 9:3-7,

David's sin & judgement: 2 Samuel 12:7,9,11,12,14,18, 2 Samuel 13:1,6,7,8,12,13,14,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,28,29,30,31,32, after years 2 Samuel 14:25,30,31,32, 2 Samuel 15:6,10,12,13,14,16,23,30,31, 2 Samuel 16:3,5,6,7,8,11,13,22, 2 Samuel 17:21,23,29, 2 Samuel 18:5,7,9,10,12,14,15,17,20,27,32,33, 2 Samuel 19:1-4, "the sword did not depart from his house" etc. There were more scriptures about his consequences _.

Queen Vashti, consequence Ester 1:19, Ester 2:4

Saul then 1 Samuel 28:3,7,18,19

David has Psalms of remorseful repentance, gives glory to GOD ALMIGHTY, shows mercy & humility at times. With Saul he shows remorse but didn't read much of repentance, etc.

However the Bible says: 1 Colossians 1:20,

Job 12:16

Hopefully these are helpful in your study.

2 Samuel 19:13. Benson Commentary

And say ye to Amasa, Art thou not of my bone, and of my flesh? God do so to me, and more also, if thou be not captain of the host before me continually in the room of Joab.

2 Samuel 19:13. Say to Amasa, Art thou not of my bone, &c. - That is, nearly related to me, being my sister's son. God do so to me, and more also, &c. - He solemnly promises to prefer him to the highest command in the kingdom; for he now thought it a fit time to depress Joab, who was grown insufferably insolent and imperious, and who, through his credit with the army, had protected himself in the commission of the greatest crimes. He had slain Abner most perfidiously in cold blood, and killed Absalom contrary to the king's express command, and now lately had insulted him in his sorrow. Having, therefore, now an opportunity of transferring the command to another person, who had as great an interest in the people's favour as Joab, he gladly embraces it, that so he might both chastise Joab for his faults, and rescue himself from the bondage in which that general had hitherto held him. Some, however, have thought that, considering Joab's very faithful services to David in all the changes of his fortune, and that his violent measures proceeded in part from a regard to him, as judging them necessary for his safety and tranquillity, David's conduct in this instance, in making Amasa captain of the host in Joab's room, is not an amiable trait in his character, and was not a prudent step at this time, especially considering Joab's violent temper: and, it must be acknowledged, it brought on the murder of Amasa.

Verse 5~David mourned the death of his son and while this is natural, Joab had to remind him of all that the people had went through because of Absalom's rebelliousness.

your network has a way of defining your networth at the long run.the relationship chimham with barzillai which i guess is a positive/mentor and protege type opened him(chimham)to King David(that normally would not have had any relationship wt chimham) and benefits.