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I don't know what kind of church you go to but my church does none of those things. I thing it is best if you find either a church online or another church.

It is better if you go to a church to better edify not only you but others. we can see in Acts 15:1-7 that a Church is suppose to edify others.

Eric,

Well-spoken concerning LAW of God NOT being abolished!

Specific ordinances from the Law were fulfilled and no longer needed, not the entire Law (Hebrews ch. 9, Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:14).

It was only certain ordinances that were taken out of the way ( 1 Corinthians 11:2).

The Law of BLOOD SACRIFICE (circumcision, Passover lamb, goat of atonement, etc.) has been taken out of the way, and the right to worship in the Temple in Jerusalem has been replaced by we who make up the body of Christ. We are His Temple.

I don't understand how people say that the Law is no longer needed.

We are all under the 10 Commandments.

Everyone that sins needs the Lawthat's everybody, every day.

Acts ch. 15 did simplify the requirements for the Gentiles. BUT, that was for NEW Gentile converts and was the BASICS of what they were to follow. The more they understood, the more they could handle.

Acts 15:19-20 "WE TROUBLE NOT THEM, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood."

The basics, until they come up to speed.

Everybody that uses Colossians 2:16-17 as their belief that the Law is abolished should understand that this also concerned those that were newly converted GENTILES.

That is why Paul says "Let no man therefore judge you"

We are not the judge.

First, the apostles preached to the gentiles, one was Philip with the Ethiopian Eunuch and he did baptise him, Acts 8:26-40. Second Peter to the centurion named Cornelius and his family and baptised them. Peter had the vision with the unclean foods and that represented the gentiles, Acts 10:1-11:18 and also Acts 15:7. The disciples held a meeting in regards to how gentile converts were to live their lives after conversion because of the Judaizers read the whole of Acts 15 and you will see this and stress on verse 23 where the letter reads to be from the apostles to the gentiles. Also read about the Rabbinic Curse. Christ sent His disciples to the world to preach and baptise, Matt 28:18-20.

Context, context, context!

You have to know what was going on during Paul's day. There were Jews during Paul's ministry that wanted to put people under The Law ( Acts 15:1), and Paul warned them not to believe in ANY OTHER Gospel 1 Cor 15:1-4.

John The Baptist preached this gospel to ISRAEL ...

Matthew 3:1-2

In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Acts 19:4

Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

Jesus Christ preached The Gospel of the Kingdom to ISRAEL.

Matthew 4:17

From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Matthew 4:23

And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

The Tribulation Gospel will be preached in the future to ISRAEL after The Body of Christ is taken out of here.

You see, WHAT Israel had to believe during Jesus' ministry is NOT The Gospel Paul preached to Jews and Gentiles in this Age of Grace.

Paul's Gospel is THE GOSPEL 1 Cor 15:1-4 we need to believe to be saved today!

3:23. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

3:24. Wherefore the law was our SCHOOLMASTER to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

3:25. But after faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Acts 15:10

I was wrong about the blood as one pointed out in Acts 15:20 and 29, but the ceremonial laws are done away in Christ. That is why we have the New Testament.

There is a deeper spiritual meaning of things strangled, meaning beware of "practices" that are not truths. God's word is life and when we make light of God's word we are strangling the truth

In Acts 15:22 I found Judas last name, Barsabus. He was traveling with Paul. It's interesting for me following this. I like studying with everyone here.

Paul spoke as well not to tie us into their the Jewish rites we are not bound to them but to the Lord. God called them all to speak about Jesus and the price he paid for our sins to except His word and to be joined as one through Christ, not to man, He is the way the truth and the life. God Bless you all

to put a yoke upon our brethren that not even our fathers could bare, the laws of Moses time were good as Paul spoke in Romans, but not one could keep them only Christ, Jews were not to pit us against the Gospel of Jesus Christ,knowone is under the laws of Moses but under grace by faith through Jesus Christ, Gentiles were told not to do things that they did in their traditions of rites

Peter had the 'Keys to the Kingdom,' as God had chosen Peter to stand before all and give the plan of Salvation. His message, Acts 2:38-39. Repent and be baptized everyone of you in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. If you aren't baptized in the name of Jesus and filled with the Holy Ghost you are not heaven ready.

I am going to have to disagree with the commentary of Matthew Henry on the subject of blood. quote: The blood is now allowed for the nourishment of our bodies it is no longer appointed to make an atonement for the soul . The first part for our bodies is not correct. Acts 15:20,29. This is new testament. The life of the flesh is still in the blood. Abstaining from blood is still in affect.

Let me politely ask you an even more powerful question. Which are you going to believe? Are you going to believe unholy and ungodly ghost stories or the Holy Word of God? God Bless! May God guide you, protect you, and watch over you on your search/journey for his truth.

These are repeating Esther but using greek translation of the hebrew names of trueJews. All scriptures testifying of geneology and of1 and 2 marriage covenants of True Judaism kjv Matthew 5:17-21, NLT Math 7:21-23 away from me who break Gods laws , Acts 15:19-21. Niv NT Acts 2:11, Acts 6:5, Acts13:43, not the Judaism taught today but commandments of God Abraham no longer kept

Pray always for the Lord to know you, ask for the Holy Spirit to teach you the word, read the same chapter over and over and pray each time for the word to get into your soul, above all else pray that His will be done on earth as it is in heaven and to teach you. Don't let go of him hold fast to the hem of his garment through prayer and reading the bible.

What good getting saved if does not take hold in the soul

Acts 15; Gentiles are directed to abstain from these 4 things, idols, fornication, blood

God who knows the hearts has received us and purified our hearts by faith, giving us the Holy Ghost. "Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?" The Holy Spirit is given to them that obey Him: does this one sentence then mean that we are not obliged to keep the commandments of God? What is the context?

The early Apostles were devoted and committed and depended absolutely on the Holy Spirit for guidance. They resolved thorny matters including circumcision through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. The lesson here is for us to look onto the Holy Spirit to guide our lives. Paul and Barnabas have now become separated to continue spreading the Gospel in different directions. Praise the Lord.

1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. In the Grace age we live in, Gentiles and Jews can be in the same body of Christ. Apostle Paul never was converting Gentiles in Jews, they were being saved by Grace, we are spiritual Jews inside.

Insight; may I ask, What Bible are you reading? Paul wasn't trying to turn Gentiles into Jews. When it talks about the controversy that arose over whether the Gentile Believers should be compelled to be circumcised and keep the law of Moses; it was from the Pharisees: Paul by that time was long time no longer doing that; and was only called upon to testify what he was preaching. Read Galatians!

What is the contention from Paul about Gentiles? Peter supported by Apostle James said Jesus taught converting Gentiles from the beginning. Paul wants to convert Gentiles to be Christians only if they are circumcised first to pledge obedience to Mosaic laws. Paul supports Abrahamic bloodline belief, that Christ is from David. The Apostles know that is not true. Jesus came to remove unjust laws.

Acts 15:24 "that certain which went out from us (meaning certain men that had fallen away from faith, and left, to teach on their own accord) have troubled you with words,subverting your souls with words, saying you must be circumcised,to whom we gave no such command."V.28"seemed good to the Holy spirit and us,to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things"; in v. 29.

We shouldn't, as Christians, be on here to vilify anyone or their belief. There used to be an anachronism - WWJD? You saw it in lanyards, t-shirts, purses, everywhere. It seems we have rather forgotten about it. But it something we need to - remember. Jesus said, Be ye followers of me. He spoke to the Pharisees to 'try' to reach them - and He did reach a few of them, Acts 15:5.

V.8 "bare them witness" He bare witness to me by giving me His Holy Spirit.

'Jehovah' means savior, and translates from the Hebrew into 'Jesus in the Greek, which also means - Savior. It was Jehovah, ywhw, I AM, etc., in the O.T., but we are now, as of ca. 30, 33 A.D., in the age of Grace, not the age of Law.

To Brenda on 11/21/13 - quote: "If it wasn't for Jesus dying for , how would we ever make it?" unquote. If one really looks at that statement and KNOWS God's word - it's easy to see - there would be no 'we', nor Jesus, nor God, nor creation. But because God IS (not created), voila! here we are.

V. 8 "And God ..... bare them witness ..... "; does anyone know how God did this - bare them witness .........?

V.29 - " ..... abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood ..... ; at the time this was written, idol worship was still going on - with the drinking of blood to the gods. Nowadays, to eat a piece of rare meat isn't the same; one is not doing it unto idols. Although, there are some cults still that do such things, but you will never see it done as they stay hidden.

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