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Jessie, you err seriously. The Bible does NOT tell husbands to submit to their wives. That's a total lie. Show the scriptures that says that. You won't find any.

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. As a woman should submit herself onto the Lord, she should do likewise to her husband. Husbands are to rule their homes, not the wife. Here's the lowdown on who women should teach (and not in the church)

The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

Jesse, she says Years of teaching Sunday morning and afternoon and evening had me perplexed by seeming contradictions. Most people go to church on Sunday mornings and evenings. Where else would she be teaching. The role of teaching was given to men, not to women, hence Paul not allowing a woman to teach. By doing this, she IS usurping authority. Would ya say robbing a bank was ok, as long as it was for a good cause? No.

Women are allowed to teach children in a Sunday school setting. WRONG

Paul say a woman should not teach in church period. How can a woman teach in Sunday School if "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak.

Or at home if the man is not fulfilling that role. A woman should teach their children about the Lord AT Home. That is scriptural.

Mishael:If the husband will not be the priest of the household, the women have to do it.

Prove that using only scriptures ! That's a satanic lie. There was NEVER a woman priest in the Old Testament or the New Testament. I am helping the woman by edifying her with the scriptures to not teach. Women are to LEARN at home and to use this information to live godly lives and to not be an embarassment to their husbands.

And just where in the OT or NT does the scriptures tell anyone to do "family" prayers? That's not what Jesus, the Founder of Christianity, taught. This is what Jesus says about prayer.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. Matt 6:6

Y'a gotta think outside that little box of who does what.

No, when ya put aside the Scriptures, that's PRIDE and doing what is right in your own eyes. God wants HIS will to be done, not yours

Jesse, I agree with your position & understanding of the Scripture. Except, I believe that it is: "husbands love your wives" & not "submit". Well, that's okay, even my wife thinks it is: "husbands submit to your wives, in the Lord".

Patricia,

Can you please share where in scripture I can find that every Jew had to be saved before they could take the message to the nations. I do not know of any place where Paul taught that. Are you referring only to those who were sent out, or every Jew?

Sir, I both agree and disagree with what you're saying. First, I do not see anything in Patricia's post stating that she is pastoring a church, or usurping authority over a man. I agree with 1 Timothy 2:12, but that is speaking of a woman being in authority over a man in the church, or pastoring a church, not that a woman cannot teach at all. Women are allowed to teach children in a Sunday school setting, or at home if the man is not fulfilling that role. Women are also allowed to teach other women. However, women are not to hold a position of authority over the men in the church. In other words, women are not allowed to pastor the church. This is not to say that women are inferior to men, and there are plenty of women who would be much better teachers than some of the men out there. But God's order in the church is God, Christ, Man, Woman. As far as submission goes, it always involves a third person, Wives submit to their husbands, husbands submit to their wives, in the Lord!

Charles: I will direct you first to Proverbs 31 and then the New Testament or New Covenant. Women do all the things you mention and more; which is why they live longer. If the husband will not be the priest of the household, the women have to do it. Family prayers,; same thing. Rather than sit on your scriptures, why not help the woman ? God pulled that rib out of Adams side: not above or below the ribcage. From his side nearer his heart. The Church is Jesus's Bride. How's your relationship with your Bridegroom? Y'a gotta think outside that little box of who does what.

Patricia, you being a professing christian and all, might want to consider this verse that God had Paul put in His Boo.

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over a man, but to be in silience. 1 Tim 2:12

Women are not to teach, their duty is to their husband, to guide the household and to submit to her husband. She is not to teach, but to learn at home. It is a sin against God for any woman to teach

Yes, Peter focused on the Jews and Paul focused on the Gentiles, however, in most maybe all of Paul's journeys he first presented the gospel to the Jews before moving on to the Gentiles. This is exactly what Jesus said --

Please also see Romans 10:16 ...but they have not all "obeyed the gospel" John 3:3-5 Acts 2:38-39 Matthew 16:16-19 Peter preached the gospel to devout Jews who obeyed the gospel. Please also see II Thessalonians 1:8 I Peter 4:17 Galatians 1:8-9 Acts 22:16 how to call on the Name of the Lord Devout Jews obeyed the gospel, setting the example for us! One LORD, One Faith, One Baptism

Acts 22:16 is where the blood washed Saul s sins away. Acts 2:38 is where around 3000 had their sins remitted. Acts 8:29-39 is where the blood washed the eunoch s sins away. Matthew 26:28 and Acts 2:38 tie the blood to the water. Rev. 1:5 and Acts 22:16 tie the blood to the water. John3:1-5 tie Spirit to the water. 1st John 5:8 ties it ALL Together. 1st Peter 3:21 is right, BAPTISM SAVES. Peace

Sorry, but i don't think Paul had to "save" all the jews before he could be sent to the gentiles! In fact, the gospel accounts say that Peter was sent to the Jews, and Paul to the gentiles-GBU

I know this is all semantics, but a split occured early on in the Church as a result of the issue of baptism. Prior to Antioch, both Jew and Gentile who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ fellowshipped together. These Jews believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, but they were trying to lay the burden of circumcision upon the Gentiles for salvation. Paul had a very clear understanding of circumcision.

I should be amazed, but I'm not...vs 21 is clear...Baptism is where forgiveness of sins takes place after the sinner repents and confesses his faith. Acts 22:16 backs this up as Saul still had his sins (not saved on the road to Damascus) and was told to arise and be baptized and wash away his sins. Baptism is not a work of man. It's called obedience. Find me where it says it's an "outward sign"

Acts 22:10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. Paul now believed that Jesus of Nazareth is God. Paul got saved, that's why Jesus instructed him. Praise the Lord.

thumper: And did he ever! He testified who he was,how he persecuted the believers.( Hitler of that day). How he meant The Savior on the road to Damascus. Oh to meet The Savior for a life change! A Great multitude which no man could number,of all nations and kindreds and people and Tongues, stood before The Throne and before the Lamb: Revelation 7:9. Celebration with no---------------------- end

Paul was a dark skinned Jew from the tribe of Benjamin...
Acts 21:
38 Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?
39 But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.

Cont...Correction of last comment the holy ghost not they cause can't nobody give it to u but God. If anyone will read Acts 8 you will see Saul before he became Paul persecuted The Church putting men and women in jail but ooh what wrong choice, in Acts 9 the light from heaven shined then Jesus said I am JESUS... this is the very gospel that Peter was teaching in Acts 22:7-16 he told his wrong.

Years of teachin Sunday morning and afternoon and evening had me perplexed by seeming contradictions. At age 37 my spiritual eyes were opened when I put my life into God's Hands. The loudest verse was The Great Commission, Matthew 28 19 and 20. There is a comma after nations, teaching themvti observe all things whatsoever I have COMMANDED you." What were the all things. Then Paul's message became clear. And backed up by the fact the apostles had not left Jerusalem after 15 years because every Jew had to be saved BEFORE they could take the message to the nations. See Acts 28:24-29.

Notice they received the Holy Spirit before water baptism in verse 44. Romans 8:26 is not speaking of speaking in tongues because it says " but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which CANNOT BE UTTERED. The Church Age saint does not have to keep himself saved because God does that Eph 1:13, 4:30, 1 Corinthians 1:8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. If baptism is a "Command, " how are unsaved children obeying a command? An unborn child can 't obey the Fathers commands until he has been born. John 3:5 flesh is water birth. We say, her water broke. Mark 16:16 is still the gospel of the kingdom not the gospel of the grace of God. Can you drink poison and handle snakes? Acts 2:38 is to Jews see verse 5,14,22,etc. They say what must WE do? Not what must I do to be saved? Acts 16:31. Acts 22:16 says calling on the name of the Lord. Matthew 28:19 says nothing about water baptism saving anyone. The apostle never got baptized according to Acts 2:38 and all are in heaven now. It was a Jewish faith Rom 1:16 that involved signs 1Cor 1:22, 14:22. Acts transitions from Jew to Gentile, from Law to Grace. Your gospel for today is 1 Cor 15:1-4. Trust the shed blood of Jesus Christ and go to heaven. Water only gets you wet in this dispensation.

Acts 10 demonstrates the acceptance of gentiles into the kingdom of God. The Holy Spirit fell upon the gentiles signifying to Peter that acceptance, but that ability to speak in tongues is different than receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit in Acts 2: 38. It is for everyone to help us in our daily lives as evidenced in Romans 8. If not for the Holy Spirit offering up prayers to God in our behalf to help keep us in the saved state. That is why baptism is so important because it is there where we receive the gift predicated upon the fact we acquiesce to God 's command as stated in John 3: 5, Mark 16: 16, Acts 2: 38, Acts 22: 16 and Matthew 28: 19, 20. Faith only doesn 't work, because faith has to be accompanied by following commands by Jesus. Finally, Romans 6 clearly shows why baptism is demanded because it is there we receive the regeneration by water burial in a token death, burial and resurrection satisfying God 's plan for salvation. Anything short of that is merely cut and paste salvation.

Paul had great zeal in persecuting the Christians but God turned it around and he became a zealot for the teaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Is 'nt God Awesome? He can do anything.

Acts 10:10, acts 11:5, acts 22:18 Peter fell into a TRANCE and had spiritual vision. Numbers 4:4 16 Balaam falling in a TRANCE even with his eyes open, seeing the Almighty. Psalms 46:10 Be still and know that I am God means your mind by meditation,stopping the carnal thought until you enter into a TRANCE . The Webster definition for TRANCE is a narrow passage, a narrow pathway A NARROW GATE I hope this helps all of you. It 's God 's way or no way at all.

Yes, just to say I believe God in my heart and believe in His power is not enough to save you. Otherwise, no verses would be in the Bible that ask believers to be baptized. All those people on the day of Pentecost and after would have never asked believers to repent and be baptized. They were filled with the Holy Spirit. They could not lie. Acts 22:16 Paul told the audience that Ananias asked him to be baptized and wash away his sins. Paul was still filled with the Holy Spirit. He could not have lied. Why did God ask Abraham to sacrifice his only son? Couldn 't Abraham have just said, I believe you God and not made the trip? Abraham had waited 20 years for the promise of a son. Is it too much to ask that we be baptized once we believe? I think not. We should follow and obey Jesus in anything he requires of us. God bless you RNM and all. May we all grow in the grace and knowledge of Him.

I wonder why Paul when retelling his story in Acts 22:16 said that he was told by Aninias to arise and be baptized, calling on His Jesus name? The kingdom is also synonymous with the church. We are added to the church, kingdom after we become Christians. Yes, we most certainly believe the whole Bible. Jacob is right when he says who were they talking to. The Jews who had been God 's chosen people needed to believe in Jesus as the Messiah and we are grafted in and become part of the Kingdom, church after becoming Christians. And of course the kingdom is spiritual. Colossians 1:12-15. We are spiritually one with Christ after obeying the gospel. Dwelling in our hearts through faith. Ephesians 3:17 and Ephesians 4:1-7

i think its powerful that is what we need to show our actions and words and soft answers and loving people to show who christ is its amazing we are free and can choose to walk with Him everyday for the rest of our lives. thank you God for delivering me from the snares of the enemy i am free to move and live for you love you Lord

paul was a murderer of gods people, but on his way to damascus jesus caused blindness to come upon him and spoke to him out of the light from heaven to stop persecuteing him only then did he paul accept jesus christ after his sight returned. why is it that something bad have to happen to you before you believe in god, god is real and just and faithful we should always give praises to him and continue to spread his word to everyone we meet. all of our blessings comes from the lord which made heaven and earth. praise the lord god always amen.

Paul was holding their coats while the were killing Stephen.It means he gave aid to them and was just as guilty as they were. Have a blessed day. Acts ch 22 verse.

Paul is driven to do his job as a Roman he followed the Law to the letter. To even stand-by and participate in the stoning of Stephen the Apostle. He did not know The Christ-he ask; "Who are you, Lord?" This is the same question, we ask today. So in his infinite Wisdom The Christ chose Paul-knowing he would do all he was asked to do in His Name. When you hear His Voice; DO as Saul has show us; be driven to share the message of The Christ with all the spiritually 'blind and lost' of our generation.

The lord jesus christ knew saul/paul would have done some terrible things to his saints so he converted him giving his life to do the works of christ.