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We all minister to the saints, You can do that without uttering a word! You're ministering when you're helping, There's no office or gift that stands out above another being that God gave the Church these Ministers and also the gifts.
Joel 2:28 " I will pour out my spirit on
" ALL "flesh, Have that happen yet? I'm afraid not. Has "ALL" Israel began to Prophecy? No but they will during the Millennium.
Peter said in
Acts 2:16. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; " IT IS LIKE THAT OF JOEL'S PROPHECY.
God said "I will pour my spirit upon ALL flesh" This parallels with Ezekiel 37. They're in the land but have they received the Spirit? NO.
Ezekiel 37:14. AND SHALL PUT MY SPIRIT IN YOU, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.
Joel 2:27-28. And ye shall know that I am in the midst of ISRAEL, AND THAT I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD, and none else: and MY PEOPLE SHALL NEVER BE ASHAMED.
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
( THIS IS DURING THE MILLENNIUM )
HERE'S THE CHURCH INSTRUCTIONS.
Ephesians 4:11-12. And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Paul says the Older woman is to teach the younger.
Titus 2:3-4.
1 Timothy 2:11-15. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
GB.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel
Matthew 1:23
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."
Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.
[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3,
John 16: 7-15]
To REFUSE this knowledge, is to reject the Son of God, and his provision. Read all those scriptures before you decide. Jesus doesn't brainwash anybody. Ask His followers.
Mishael
Your question was if some people believe that. You probably already know the answer is yes. But maybe your real question is it a requirement to be baptized to enter heaven? If that is your question I have a response.
My main question is why wouldn't you want to be baptized? What's the real reason for wanting to disobey Jesus? If someone is looking to only do the bare minimum in order to "make it to heaven", one might wonder if that person is a real Christian. God wants all of us- to love the Lord with all our heart, all our mind, all our strength. If someone is mostly interested in following the world, but wants to just cut corners and do whatever they assume is the bare minimum, I personally would not feel much assurance of salvation. Jesus clearly said to be baptized, so if someone disregards Jesus's words, it seems like slapping him in his face, as that person thinks they know better than Jesus.
Here's the verse where Jesus says to be baptized: Mark 16:16
Acts 2:38 clearly says to be baptized also. If it wasn't important, they wouldn't have said to do it, but they did say to do it. So, aside from a physical disability, if someone doesn't want to do it for whatever reason, is following Jesus very important to them? It reveals someone's priorities. Matthew 6:21 - All will be judged fairly and I think some will be surprised on judgment day: Matthew 10:33. God bless...
"...Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved..." Acts 16:31
"Yet to all who receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." John 1:12
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:38
"I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance" Luke 5:32
"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9
There's a link on the red page: "Become A Christian", that explains the whole process.
For me: Jesus submitted to be baptized in water by John the Baptist. He was fulfilling a prophesy.
Baptism is simply us following Jesus as his disciple in a simple act of obedience.
It never occurred to me to dispute water baptism. It truly was desiring to leave my old life and rise up in the new life.
This very simple: do you want to follow Jesus or not?
If you want to follow Jesus, Jesus said to be baptized in Matthew 28:19.
It also says to be baptized in Acts 2:38.
So, it's very simple- either you follow what Jesus says or you don't. Those who follow Jesus are called Christ-followers or Christians. Genuine Christians have an opporunity to have their sins forgiven and spend eternity with God. I want that, but strangely most don't and are only interested in figuring out how to do the bare minimum while mostly seeking pleasure in sin and doing whatever they want. Motives must be questioned of anyone that doesn't want to follow Jesus's teachings or are seeking to do the bare minimum. It's really one or the other. Either we follow Jesus or we don't. God bless.
While baptism is not essential to salvation, the mandate of baptism is essential to Obedience.
Being baptized is a command from God, it is not an option. It is an act that God requires of every believer. Among Jesus' last recorded words on earth were, He that believes and is baptized shall be saved ( Mark 16:16).
Sprinkling infants with water does not baptize them. Being baptized requires an understanding and commitment that an infant has no capacity to undertake. There is no record of infant baptisms in the Bible.
There are examples of baby dedication ( 1 Samuel 1:11, Luke 2:22). Baby dedication is where the baby is blessed as a public statement by the parents that they will train their children in the Christian faith and seek to instill that faith in them.
Christians who do not follow Jesus in water baptism have a much higher rate of backsliding than those who do. If a person's walk with God does not start with the most basic act of obedience, they are not likely to be obedient in other areas of their walk.
If you have never been baptized, now is the perfect time to obey the Lord.
I think John the Baptist was born to proclaim Jesus, Baptize Jesus and Preach The Word of God, who is, Jesus Christ. John 1:1 (my thoughts)
You don't have to do it if you don't want to; clearly shown in the New Testament mentions through Paul and others.
Most people know about Baptism. Some churches offer it; others don't. As a street minister, we baptized those that asked for it; in a friends swimming pool or the College fountain. There's no LAW on this.
Jesus gave us 2 new commandments. Let's do that.
M.
I agree with you, water baptism is not a requirement for salvation,
And rather go through the scripture as usual to show the definition and it being a symbolic testimony of what Christ crucifixion and resurrection DONE FOR US.
Let's examine the text in Acts 2:38.
Lets see if Peter gave them two things to do or did he give them one thing to do for the remission of sins.
1) Did Peter say unto them, Repent, and " BE " baptized?
Or
2) Did Peter say unto them, Repent and "GET" baptized?
Homely example:
You're sitting at home watching TV. Your son is standing in front of the TV,
( YOU TELL HIM TO SIT DOWN AND GET OUT THE WAY! )
He does " one " thing.
He sat down, when he did he got out the way.
Note: ALL JEWS HERE IN ACTS.
( Acts 2:38. Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. )
The jews believed in Judaism and believed their salvation rested on it.
Jesus was announced by his forerunner "John the baptist "
Jesus met all the criteria given by the prophecies of the old testament and the Law, He committed the miracles.
The message to the Jews was to
REPENT FROM UNBELIEF TO BELIEF.
( ACCEPTING THE SACRIFICIAL LAMB )
So when those who repented they "WERE" Baptized.
( They were put into the body of believers, Identified with Christ and the Resurrection "IMMEDIATELY" AND SUPER NATURALLY, BY THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLYSPIRIT. ) and THEN we're they baptized with water to profess their faith.
God bless.
Our names are already written in the "book of life" ( Exodus 32:32-33, Rev 13:8, Rev 20:15, Rev 21:17) and many, many, more. Just type in, King James Version for the Book of Life verses. So, we have salvation through Christ but we must accept it. Acts 2:41 for example, talks about a few thousand that got saved (accepted their salvation).
However, picking up your cross and FOLLOWING CHRIST will require training given us through the Holy Spirit and many people will not want to tolerate that training for heaven and like the seed without root, wither up and die ( Matt 13:6). Or leave the flock and wonder off into the world. Satan does everything he can to temp and lead others away from Christ. He seems to be very successful by filling our lives with materialism. It can be easier than we want to admit to desire what the world offers if we put Christ second.
Seek ye FIRST the kingdom of God in all that you do and I'll see you in heaven.
:)
Hope this helps a little.
Hello Norman. As I read your question & comments, Ephesians 2:8-10 came to mind. "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."
I know that you are well aware of that Scripture, as we've come to know you from your other comments in the past. So if I may expand on that passage in line with your question.
The very basis of our acceptance by God as His children is because of His Grace that He has showered upon us, giving us faith to believe in His Salvation. This is the Gift of God: not just salvation or just faith, but the whole deal: His Grace + His Faith to believe + His Salvation. I believe, from what you've written in the past, that you not only know this but are in possession of it. There are many people & some sadly, occupying Church pews, who know about this salvation but are not in possession of it: they know ABOUT Christ but have not received faith to believe IN HIM. And this salvation, indeed God's Grace & Faith as well, is given to all who have been drawn by God ( John 6:44) with the Holy Spirit's ministry of conviction of sin ( John 16:8), resulting in repentance & being born again ( Acts 2:38; John 3:3). That is God's requirement for sinners to be accepted & the person who has been so led & then dealt with by the Lord, has been truly saved by Him. There is no work that we can ever perform that will give our salvation an extra guarantee - if that were so, then salvation is no longer of Grace & Faith, but of our efforts.
Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, SAITH GOD, I WILL...
Is GOD a person? Do you know anything that can speak other than a person? Saith God, I will pour out MY SPIRIT ( John 4:24 God is SPIRIT); is not he saying that he will pour out HIMSELF?
1 Corinthians 2:16 KNOW YE NOT that ye are the temple of God, and that the SPIRIT OF GOD (God is Spirit) dwells in you....
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind (God's mind) be in you, which also was in Christ Jesus:
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Psalms 82:6 I (GOD SAITH) have said, ye are gods; and all of you are CHILDREN of the MOST HIGH.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I SAID ye age gods?
John 10:35 If HE called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (GOD POURED OUT HIMSELF ON YOU), and the scripture cannot be broken.
You can trust a fractured message till kingdom come, but having all the scriptures line up with each other is tantamount to Biblical perfection. You are counting 3 when that is not Bible doctrine. The Holy Ghost is not part of a 3 person trilogy; you can't pour out a "person" Acts 2:17.
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Many people posting here sit on the fence between Jesus being God or not, or a trinity or not. If the Bible's editors, and caretakers had been more diligent and reliable in preserving the Word, this age old confusion wouldn't exist.
[19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Acts 1:2-3,15,26 KJV
[2] Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen: [3] To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: [15] And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) [26] And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
Acts 2:1,4 KJV
[1] And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. [4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Acts 2:38 KJV
[38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians 12:3 KJV
[3] Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
Colossians 3:17 KJV
[17] And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
Eph 1:13; 4:30; Acts 2:38; 1 Cor 6:19
If you agree that your definition of a Christian is different, then what is your definition? What exact criteria makes someone a Christian in your view?
My criteria is: believe Jesus Christ, repent/confess sin, and be baptized. Matthew 10:32, John 3:16, Luke 5:32, Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16. A Christian is a Christ follower, which is an action. It is an ongoing activity and responsibility to follow Jesus and obey Him and strive to live a holy life. It takes great effort to do this avoid sin. Look at Paul's struggle in Romans 7. John 14:15. Romans 12:2, James 2:26, John 8:11.
The gentleman I previously spoke about did all the above and is a Christian, but you said he wasn't. Why not? In your view is a Christian not a Christian if he sins just once, or twice, or does it depend on the sin?
And Jesus's followers were indeed Christians. A literal Christ follower is as true to being a Christian as you can possibly get. They literally followed Him around all day, listened to His teachings, believed Him, tried to emulate Him. Judas and Peter both denied and betrayed Him as Christians, because they had freewill to do so, just like Satan had freewill in heaven to do what he did, and just like so many Christians do today, by leaving, denying the faith, committing sin.
What is most sad is this Christian I referred to living in sin right now is doing so because of messages he's been told like you're telling. He's been brainwashed into believing he is already saved and he can now do whatever he wants- that it's impossible to lose his salvation. And now he's enjoying sin and doing all kinds of evil, because he was told he's saved and in the book of life. Christians who think they can get by with committing unlimited sin are completely ignoring what Jesus said. ( John 14:15). That's like slapping Jesus in the face. Romans 14:13. We are to not cause others to stumble.
( Acts 2:17) And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:...
( Joel 2:28) And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;...
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." This verse is self explanatory!! Repent, be baptized in Jesus name for the REMISSION OF YOUR SINS and you (everybody) will receive the Holy Ghost.So why does most of the Christian world ignore Acts 2:38? This is the instructions to obtain salvation.The Church began on that day, the day of Pentecost.THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH began on that day in Acts, which is the only church Jesus died and bled for! Most of the Christian world seems to admit repentance is necessary for salvation. But they seem to believe baptism is ONLY symbolic and has no real impact on salvation. Yes baptism is symbolic, just as Jesus is the symbolic sacrificial lamb who was slain on Calvary for our sins!! Paul explains the importance of baptism in Romans chapter 6. Baptism is necessary for salvation.
Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him (Jesus) by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk--- in newness of life.What is that
"newness of life"? Its remission of sins! When our sins are remitted, they are gone and forgiven. But their our sins are only remitted if baptism is done in Jesus name after repentance. And Paul explains why baptism is necessary in Romans 6.
Testimony:
I was at Church on a Tuesday night, in corporate intercessory prayer. There were about 70 people there. The Pastor taught a short sermonette. Then the Holy Spirit must've given him a Word of Knowledge.
His whole demeanor changed: he said there are those of you that have promised things you cannot deliver, ever. There are those of you hurt by false hopes.
We're all sitting in our seats in shock. That had to be most everybody there. Pastor said to come to the front to be prayed for.
We're all looking around at each other to see who's going to get up first. Finally one guy stands up and almost runs to the front. I'm in line about 10 back.
Pastor was just standing on stage. WELL... the Holy Spirit was standing 10 feet from the stairs.
People were to go forward, have hands laid on, and go down the back stairs back to their seats. When I was a few feet up on the stage, me and everybody else went down in a heap.
We were what is called, "SLAIN in the Spirit". I could not stand up. I tried. No one could. Then we began to laugh. We were being healed of false promises. It was like we were all drunk and couldn't stand up.
I looked over the lights to see there were many people still sitting in the pews who DID NOT go to the front to be healed. I just thought Why would they not run to Jesus for healing, filling up on the Joy of the Holy Spirit? The Living Water.
When you experience total healing and receive THE JOY (oil) of the Holy Spirit, you get drunk on the New Wine. God knows when we need a Fill Up. It was wonderful.
There was a guy who went to my church who wrote a song about this. Listen on YouTube and get happy. The Well by Carman. Listen to 'Yahweh' and 'Sunday's on the Way', while you are there. 'I Got The Joy' if you're brave' :D
He died a few months ago & is with Jesus now.
M.
It is an unusual position to claim that repenting doesn't mean repenting of sins. In this context what else would someone be repenting of?
Why the resistance in repenting of sins, do you think it's wrong for someone to repent of their sins to God? If so, why?
How about confessing? Do you think it's bad to confess sins, but good to confess other things- what other things?
Just for clarification, do you believe that ACTS 2:38...
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
Where it says to Repent, do you think it means DO NOT Repent? And it doesn't say "believe" here, but you think that's what it's supposed to say instead of what it says now?
And your point about even the devils believe in God you say they only believe in God the father, and not Jesus the son? So, when the devil tempted Jesus in the desert and they had a conversation, do you think the devil didn't know who Jesus was?
If he had no idea then why did the devil say "...If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread..." and "...If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down:..." And why did Jesus say "It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God."
The devil was an angel in heaven who was cast out so He's an angelic being with powers and knows who God and Jesus is.
If believing is all you need to be saved, then mass murders like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pot, will all be in heaven with satan then? Because most believe in Jesus, but the Bible clearly says that believing alone isn't enough. Hitler likely attended catholic church growing up so if actions of evil and sin are irrelevant then we'll be hugging and sharing meals with him in heaven then, despite him mass murdering millions?
Jesus clearly said most people will go to hell. Among those people will sadly be believers as it takes more than just believing. James 2:19
James 2:24
God bless.
Let's examine:-
ACTS 3:19 - "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;"
Does it say "Repent of your sins"? No! It just says repent, and be converted. We cant always add "...of your sins" after every repent word we meet. What's the context? Look at verse 13 and 14 :- They denied the Holy one and Just and desired a murderer, the killed the Prince of life and they did it through ignorance (v17) Then Paul is telling them to repent from denying and rejecting Christ to accepting Him by faith..
LUKE 13:3 - "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."
Again, the context. Are they repenting of sins? No. In v.1 some guys tell Jesus that Pilate and mixed some Galileans blood with the sacrifices they were performing. Jesus asks they guys whether they thing the Galileans who Pilate has killed were more sinful than those alive in Galilee at the moment because of the suffering they went through. He tells them blatantly No (nay) and He tells them if they don't turn their ways (repent), they will perish in the same manner that Pilate did to the slain Galileans.
ACTS 2:38 - "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
Again, no mention of "repent your sins." Context? After they had spoken in other tongues, some were amazed and others mocked the disciples by saying they are full of new wine(v.13) and then in v.22 and v.23 he tells them how despite Jesus showing signs and wonders and miracles, they still took him and crucified him, but God has raised him up again, and that God has made Jesus, whom they crucified, both Lord and Christ(v.36) They were pricked in their hearts and asked what to do. They need to turn from guilt (pricked) of crucifying Him to believe in Him.
Acts 2:37-38 KJV., what Israel(Jews) must do. Acts 10:44:48 KJV., the Holy Spirit(Ghost) given to the Gentiles(Greeks). In verse. 8, Peter commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord(Jesus Christ). Jews and Gentiles were baptized by water in the name of the Lord(Jesus Christ). Acts 15:5-9 KJV., question at issue(Gentiles being circumcised). In Verse 7 Peter is speaking Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. In Acts 2 Peter used the keys(Jesus gave him the keys in Matthew 16:19 KJV.) first for the Jews, and in Acts 10 second, in the house of Cornelius for the Gentiles)(but Paul was distinctively(plainly) the apostle of the Gentiles, Gal. 2:7,8).
Paul speaking( 1Corinthians 15:1-10). Not only being filled with the Holy Ghost, Saul/Paul was baptized with water in the name of the Lord(Jesus Christ).
Saul's/Paul's Conversion: Acts 9:17-19 KJV; Paul's Defense before the multitude: recounts his conversion. Acts 22:11-16; Paul's defense before Agrippa. Acts 26:9-18. In verse. 18, that they may receive forgiveness of sins( Romans 3:23)
1 Corinthians 3:5-8 KJV: 5. Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6. I(Paul) have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase(Holy Ghost) 7. So then neither is he that planteth anything, neither he that watereth, but God that giveth the increase(Holy Ghost). 8. Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labor.
1 Timothy 1:1 KJV Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope. Think about this, what is the father's name on a Birth Certificate? What name is the child born into physically? See 1John5:1-20
KJV., being baptized in the name of (Jesus Christ): The Foundation