Hello Ellen. There is no verse to assist you about 'ushering' (and this I take to mean, to guide folk concerning the Church or to assist them to their seats). This position did not exist in the early Church (as in the New Testament), so there would be no reference to such a service in a Fellowship.
The only references I can think of that the Church can appoint as assistants, are found in Acts 6:1-6, where the apostles felt that their ministry was being diverted from the Word of God to looking after the physical needs of others (such as to the widows needing help). And the other mention of this type of ministry, which comes under the umbrella of 'deacon', or a part of the office of the 'diaconate', is found in 1 Timothy 3:8-13, concerning the character & Christian witness of those men so employed.
I am reminded that even within the local body of saints there is much work to be done. Let us all be willingly and able to help in any part of the ministry to glorify GOD, and promote the gospel of the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Praying, giving, visiting, encouraging are big things needed. GOD to shine HIS face on all on this forum. Wisdom upon our elected leaders in DC, and local, regional positions. GOD bless all on this platform, and especially the brethren in CHRIST JESUS.
Acts 6:8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.
Acts 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
As you said Brother Jesse "Under the influence of God's Spirit, it is fascinating how people can function in various situations.
Apart from God's spirit we would be on the other side of the stoning.
Acts 6:8 and throughout ch 7 you see a God's spirit filled vessel emphasized in the power of Stephen.
And in Daniel 4:1-37 you see the humbling record of King Nebuchadnezzar by the Lord.
NOTICE THE DECREE;
"Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him. Daniel 4:16.
NEBUCHADNEZZAR'S RESPONSE;
"The king spake, and said, Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for the house of the kingdom by the might of my power, and for the honour of my majesty? Daniel 4:30.
THE HUMBLING BY THE LORD!
While the word was in the king's mouth, there fell a voice from heaven, saying, O king Nebuchadnezzar, to thee it is spoken; The kingdom is departed from thee.
And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will. Daniel 4:31-32.
THE RESULTS OF THE HUMBLING;
"Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase. Daniel 4:37.
The Holyspirit is powerful, mysterious, and always active in diverse ways.
The concept of "waiting upon tables". Acts 6:2 discusses the situation where the twelve Disciples were in need of redistribution of assignments for what some would consider "menial tasks." Such a situation is reminiscent of Moses and the situation of him overexerting himself with resolving various issues among the throng of exiles and the resulting advice from Jethro in Exodus 18.
In observing such a topic; we are wise to remember Christ's statement that the greatest is the servant of all in Matthew 23:11.
The issue; of course was in both cases the gifts of the ministry were not being given the time to blossom for those God has placed in authority in the church. It is perhaps illustrated most commonly with the situation of a Pastor; but certainly could involve others who are overburdened within a church. That is where it gets tricky. With any ministry; it can be assumed that whatever the individual does the most is a reflection of their particular calling. There is a subtle difference between what a person is gifted in and the fruit of the Spirit which exemplifies their unique disposition. Someone; for instance could be very patient and longsuffering (a faruit); and it is assumed they are showing a gift of mercy or helps. They may in fact have wisdom from above; and a need to share through fellowship or Bible study things which are needed for mutual edification. We needn't dismiss a Pastor from helping with the "down and dirty" tasks either; at least we would expect help on a service day cleaning up a church; for instance.
When we look at Christ as our example; he indeed washed the Disciple's feet. ( John 13). We do NOT see any evidence that he went to towns to buy food (He would occasionally CREATE food when necessary). The concept of being invited to people's homes in order to preach the Gospel seems to be a lost art these days. Also Luke 10:38-42 shows how obsessively serving a guest may not be the best approach at times.
Like many times, in our current world: when things go as it's supposed to, not much is mentioned but when it's going wrong, much more said. There was much wrong mentioned about wrongly leaving out Widows, Fatherless children, etc. Matthew 23:14, Mark 12:40, Luke 20:47, Job 22:9, Acts 6:1, Isaiah 10:2 please read in context, by reading all verses around the verses given, so you have the "whole story". They also were judged because of that * Malachi 2:17, Malachi 3:5, Deuteronomy 27:19
1Timothy 5, 1Corinthians 7, Deuteronomy 24:17,
I believe the Rules/Laws GOD gave forth to Moses for the Israelites was the ideal plan. These rules weren't not for "the rebellious nations, surrounding" probably because they may just disregard anyway.
I believe it's good if we look into the Laws & consider sincerely what we can apply today. Deuteronomy 14:29, Deuteronomy 16, we should share in our increase ( abundance ) Deuteronomy 24:19,20,21, elimination of greed, in every area
Deuteronomy 10:18,
James 1:27 , Matthew 25:35-41, Deuteronomy 26:13,14,
I also love the Word of God, in Acts 1, the former treatise referring to Luke's gospel, "all Jesus began to do and teach". In vs. 2 after Jesus ascended, He gave commandments through the Holy Spirit. At that time, they were still looking for the Messiah to set up the kingdom and free them from Rome, vs. 6 "Lord wilt thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel".
In vs. 7 and 8, Jesus told them it was not for them to know the times or seasons and after the Holy Spirit came, they would receive power and guidance. They were told they would be witnesses unto the uttermost part of the world, but they were not told when, the Holy Spirit would tell them when and whereas we see throughout the New Testament.
They stayed in Jerusalem, it was not until after Stephen's death by the same council that put Jesus to death, stopped their ears, their rejection of the Messiah was complete. Not until then did the Holy Spirit direct them to preach Jesus to Samaria. It was Philip, not the apostle but the evangelist, one of the 7, Acts 6:5 went into Samaria and was the first to preach Jesus. When the apostles who were still in Jerusalem heard, Peter and John went to see, Acts 8. Acts 9 Paul and Acts 10 Peter's dream.
We see how the Holy Spirit led Peter; Peter even said it was unlawful for a Jew to keep company with one of another nation, but God through the Holy Spirit showed him that God is no respecter of persons. My understanding is at this time the 70-week prophecy given to Daniel that was determined upon Daniel's people and the holy city was fulfilled,
You do not have to reply, I did not intend to create a debate, I just thought you may like to study it. I know many places the 70th week at the end times but what if it has been fulfilled?
I did some reading some time ago about the Nicolaitans and this man, Nicolas was a proselyte from Antioch. Many believe, and from the history of this man, that he eventually left God's work somewhere down the line and he gathered his own following.
Nicolas is mentioned in Acts 6:5. He's one of the men that were chosen to distribute bread to the Greek speaking Jewish community.
Some historical documents say that Nicolas left the church and became a Gnostic, and began spreading false teaching.
And because his name is Nicolas, they were called the Nicolaitans. They were followers of Nicolas, and the trail leads back, at least to the historians and the archaeologists, to this Nicolas of Antioch. Just a side note!
I do thank you for your thoughts on both Koine and modern Greek. Some of the Greek you have shared has helped me out.
The exact origin of the Nicolaitans is unclear. Some Bible commentators believe they were a heretical sect who followed the teachings of Nicolas-whose name means "one who conquers the people"-who was possibly one of the deacons of the early church mentioned in Acts 6:5. It is possible that Nicolas became an apostate, denying the true faith and became part of a group holding "the doctrine of Balaam," who taught Israel "to sin by eating food sacrificed to idols and by committing sexual immorality." Clement of Alexandria says, "They abandoned themselves to pleasure like goats, leading a life of self-indulgence." Their teaching perverted grace and replaced liberty with license.
Other commentators believe that these Nicolaitans were not so called from any man, but from the Greek word Nicolah, meaning "let us eat," as they often encouraged each other to eat things offered to idols. Whichever theory is true, it is certain that the deeds of the Nicolaitans were an abomination to Christ. They, like the Gnostics and other false teachers, abused the doctrine of grace and tried to introduce licentiousness in its place ( 2 Peter 2:15, 19; Jude 1:4).
Jesus commends the church of Ephesus for hating the deeds of the Nicolaitans as He does ( Revelation 2:6). No doubt the leaders of the Ephesian church protected their flock from these destructive heresies and kept their people from committing the same evil deeds. All sin is hateful to Christ, as it should be to His followers, as we hate men's evil deeds, not the men themselves. For the church at Pergamos, Jesus had not commendation, but censure. Unlike the Ephesians, they actually embraced the teachings of the Nicolaitans ( Revelation 2:15). Jesus warns them that unless they repent, they are in danger of the judgment that is sure to fall on those who teach false doctrine, attack His church, and destroy His people. The sword of judgment is poised over their heads, and His patience is not limitless ( Revelation 2:16; 19:15).
I've understood it to be similar to Simon called Peter: Matthew 4:18, Matthew 10:2, different than Acts 8:9, & Luke, Acts 10:18, Acts 13:1, Acts 13:9, Acts 14:2, notice in Acts, the same book, there are multiple names referenced even a wind, Acts 27:14, Acts 27:8, Hebrews 11:18,
Matthew 1:6 Jesus called Christ, John 4:25, Luke 6:15, John 1:42, John 11:16, not Colossians 4:11,
Romans 2:17, Romans 7:3, same supposed writer as Acts , also Romans 9:26
Matthew 26:14, Luke 23:33, John 19:13, John 19:17, Acts 6:9, Revelation 11:8,
Revelation 12:9,
Luke 2:4, Luke 8:2, John 21:2, different than Acts 9:11,
There are 2 views as to who the Nicolaitans are. One is that the Nicolaitans were led by a man named Nicholas. He's mentioned in Acts 6:5. He's one of the men that were chosen to distribute bread to the Greek speaking Jewish community. Some historical documents say that Nicholas left the church and became a Gnostic and began spreading false teaching.
Another view, which appears to be the correct view since the Nicolaitans were not even that well established at this time as far as Nicholas goes. The word Nicolaitan is made up of two Greek words. One word, and I can't spell it out because this website will reject it as advertisement, but it is the same name of the athletic shoe with the swoosh mark on it. In Greek, it is pronounced nee-kay, which is the word for overcome or victory. The second word is LAOS which means the people.
It represented the democratic control of the people in the church, where the leaders ruled. They lorded it over the flock and the Lord says I hate that! Jesus Christ is still the head of the church. Leaders are put in position to be of service to Christ, but if anybody in the church should be sensitive and humbled to God speaking through the people in the church, and the congregation, it ought to be the leaders.
We're all equal. If God wanted me to be a leader, it would not be because I'm more special than anyone else or that I know the Lord better than you. Many churches have fallen because the leaders took human control over the church, and they themselves were not governed by God's Spirit. The deeds of the Nicolaitans, the lording it over the flock, the human democracy over God's people, God says He hates.
Christians today function like Jesus Christ ascended up into heaven, and left us here to do His work for Him. No, He's still here. He's still the head of the church. He's our leader. And if you're in leadership, you still look to the leader who is Jesus Christ.
Warm welcome "Christi", when we are here all the references are there for our help. For your sake, I hope you see them. Or you can search in.
Everything from KJV is in here, the oldest recorded scripture in the world, I love this bible so much. Saw it in 2002, it is many years ago and so easy to read.
Hope you enjoy the pages and you can download the whole Bible KJV for free from the site. It is the best gift :) Take care of yourself in this world. Jesus loves you.
If the Spirit speaks to one to keep Sabbath as a rest day, then to that person they should abide - but to another, the Sabbath was not given to Gentiles & any day can be for rest & also for worship ( Romans 14:5,6 & the whole chapter).
Gentile? If you have no Jewish heritage, then you fall under the Gentile category. If the Gentile has not received the Law, he is a law unto himself ( Romans 2:14,15). Of course, all peoples are under governmental law, unless they're hidden away from society. But for both the Jewish Christian & Gentile Christian, the old Law has no more application or binding, for we are now subject to the Law of the Spirit. I don't believe that anyone with the Holy Spirit within them would ever be led to murder, commit fornication, & other sins. If a believer does sin, then he's going against the Spirit's ministry & appealing to his flesh (& this is why Paul spoke of crucifying the flesh ( Galatians 5:24,25)).
Jew? When I wrote, 'Jewish convert', I meant that such a person still retains his Jewish heritage/bloodline, but has relinquished all that kept him bound to his faith (Judaism), finding forgiveness of sins, new life & liberty through the promised Messiah, Jesus Christ. The Jews today still await the Messiah, but Jesus came, but they refused Him & crucified Him ( John 1:10-14). But the day will come when they will acknowledge Jesus ( Zechariah 12:10,11; Revelation 1:7,8). People have in the past become Jewish proselytes, embracing Judaism, its Laws & Practises ( Exodus 12:48,49; Acts 2:10; Acts 6:5; Acts 13:43). I hope that I've covered all your questions; if you have other questions feel free to start a new thread. Blessings.
Followers of Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch: The perverse mixing of idol worship, sacrificing to idols of food and perverse sex acts combined after He was one of the 7 who were of Stephen appointed to wait tables to serve the widows in the church he is mentioned in Acts 6:5 Paul wrote that some who were of us went out from among us.
Smith's Bible Dictionary
Nicolaitans:
(followers of Nicolas) a sect mentioned in Revelation 2:6; 2:15 whose deeds were strongly condemned. They may have been identical with those who held the doctrine of Balaam. They seem to have held that it was lawful to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit fornication, in opposition to the decree of the Church rendered in Acts 15:20; 15:29. The teachers of the Church branded them with a name which expressed their true character. The men who did and taught such things were followers of Balaam ( 2 Peter 2:15; Jude 1:11). They, like the false prophet of Pethor, united brave words with evil deeds. In a time of persecution, when the eating or not eating of things sacrificed to idols was more than ever a crucial test of faithfulness, they persuaded men more than ever that was a thing indifferent ( Revelation 2:13-14). This was bad enough, but there was a yet worse evil. Mingling themselves in the orgies of idolatrous feasts, they brought the impurities of those feasts into the meetings of the Christian Church. And all this was done, it must be remembered not simply as an indulgence of appetite: but as a part of a system, supported by a "doctrine," accompanied by the boast of a prophetic illumination ( 2 Peter 2:1). It confirms the view which has been taken of their character to find that stress is laid in the first instance on the "deeds" of the Nicolaitans. To hate those deeds is a sign of life in a Church that otherwise is weak and faithless ( Revelation 2:6). To tolerate them is well nigh to forfeit the glory of having been faithful under persecution ( Revelation 2:14-15).
Hi Charles. I'm glad your question asked this of a "true believer". Unfortunately, there are many 'believers', some just with head knowledge of the Lord & His Salvation, and others, coming to Jesus not recognizing the gravity of their sins & coming judgement, but superficially enjoying 'Church' & the fellowship of others - many even baptized & partaking of the Lord's Table. The Spirit might yet be drawing them into a state of true understanding, sorrow & repentance leading to salvation, but I believe that anyone who hasn't been fully possessed by the Holy Spirit, given power to love, live & witness His Name, may well "draw back", because of love for the world or fear of man rather than God.
I'm always reminded of Stephen's witness (in Acts 6:8-15 & Acts 7:1-60) as a worthy example. Stephen preached the Word with boldness knowing the volatile reaction of both the Jews & their Council. And even when dragged away to be stoned, Stephen had every opportunity to recant his faith or at least retract his accusatory message against them - but he remained faithful to the Lord. And notice the special enabling by the Spirit upon Him in Acts 7:55-60, giving him a special revelation of Heaven's Glory, hence the certainty of his death. All he saw from that time on was the Triune God & his own soon departure to that blessed place. The anger, the jeers & stones of death that pummeled him were no match to what God had prepared for him.
How would we respond if facing a similar situation? How many 'Christians' would do whatever they could to save their lives rather than lose it for Christ's sake? For most of us, we've never had to face such a threat, but for many all over the world, they would rather remain faithful to the Lord Who bought them than deny Him. This gives us a glimpse of a "true believer": one in whom the Spirit dwells & will stand faithful by the Spirit's enabling in the hour of temptation. "Not many who say Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven".
The story of the church of the New Testament isn't the story of victory after victory. There were major battles that had to be fought to keep the early church united. In particular, there were two early disagreements in the church and one battle against false doctrine that had the potential to divide the church or to send the church on a downward spiral into false doctrine.
First, Acts 6:1-7.In the early church, there quickly arose a disagreement between the Hebraic Jewish Christians and the Grecian Jewish Christians. Both groups were Christian. Also, both groups were Jewish. But one group spoke Hebrew and the other group spoke Greek (thus the distinction between Hebraic Jewish Christians and Grecian Jewish Christians). The disagreement came fromthe Grecian Jewish Christians whose widows were being neglected in the daily distribution of food. So, in essence this was an ethic controversy. The Grecian Jewish Christians brought their grievance to the apostles. This threatened the unity of the church, so the apostles acted. The oversaw the selection of specific men of Grecian background (we conjecture that they were Grecian based on their names) to oversee the distribution of food to the Grecian widows. This solution worked well. Unity continued until the battle for unity occurred. That's usually how it works. Peace reigns for a while, then another controversy emerges
Philip Christian Parks on Revelation 2 - 2 years ago
Regarding the Nicolaitans Rev. 2:6) = The proper name means "conqueror (or destroyer) of the laity (people)." There is no proof that they were disciples of the Nicolas mentioned only in Acts 6:5. The reader certainly should not desire to defame that particular Nicolas based on conjecture or speculation.
The implication of the term "Nicolaitan" suggests that a despotic authoritarian, or a power-grabbing hierarchy desired to assume unauthorized lordship as priests over the church, thus usurping The Headship of CHRIST ( Eph. 1:22; 5:23; Col. 1:18).
The church must never underestimate the influential power these charismatic religious heretics have over gullible churches. Note how the Ephesian Church hated "the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I (our Glorified CHRIST) also hate" ( Rev. 2:1-6). Yet, the Pergamos Church appointed certain Nicolaitans into their church leadership positions and adopted and practiced ("hold") "the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate" ( Rev. 2:12-16).
There, the word "hold" ( Rev. 2:15) translates from the Greek verb root (pronounced "kra-TEH-"), which speaks of church leaders using dictatorial power over the church to enforce their Nicolaitan "doctrine". This sets a dangerous precedence, for the powerful often gain manipulative power over the church far beyond that prescribed in the New Testament (cp. Mt. 20:25-28; 1Pet. 5:2-3).
If "Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them" (3Jn. v.9), was not a Nicolaitan, he certainly seemed to have patterned his authoritarian intimidation after their doctrine.
If I may give my understanding, did Jesus speak in parables, if so, why? Luke 8:10. In this chapter Jesus was condemning putting faith in wealth and not God, using parables. The Sadducees especially were covetous, they flaunted their wealth and the seat of authority they had and were living in adultery. The Pharisees held many spiritual beliefs not found in the Law of Moses and started in on Jesus. So, according to the rest of the context, Lazarus and the rich man was most likely a parable on the same subject.
One thing I have found that bears consideration on Luke 16 parable. When Jesus first came, many of the Jews were highly Hellenized and many interpretations of the Law had changed. Greek had become for many the major language and Greek philosophy was deep.
We see when Stephen and others were chosen to tend to the Hellenized (Grecian) Christian Jewish widows Acts 6:1-5. This parable would have been understood by the heavy Greek influence about death that still influences today. Jesus explains many of the parables to the disciples but this explanation is not recorded. But, is just being poor worthy of the gift of eternal life?
If our soul or spirit is immortal why would scripture say we are mortal and must put on immortality and this happens at the resurrection. 1 Corinthians 15:53-57. Does it not say we are sown in corruption, 1 Corinthians 15:42-44? Is not resurrection rising from the dead not descending from the living?
When this body dies what is left? Scripture tells us without spirit our body dies, James 2:26. Spirit, Latin spiritus, Greek pneuma, is breath, life, and consciousness, being awake, aware of your surrounding and how we respond to it either with vigor or idleness 1 Corinthians 2:11.
Thank you for reminding me of the Nicolaitans ( Rev. 2:6 & 15). The proper name "Nicolaitans" literally means "conqueror (or destroyer) of the laity (people)." I cannot find any proof that they were disciples of the Nicolas mentioned only in Acts 6:5. I certainly do not desire to defame that particular Nicolas based on conjecture or speculation.
The implication of the term "Nicolaitan" suggests that a despotic authoritarian, or a hierarchy had assumed unauthorized lordship as priests over the church, thus usurping The Headship of CHRIST ( Eph. 1:22; 5:23; Col. 1:18).
The church must never underestimate the influential power these charismatic religious heretics have over gullible churches. Note how the Ephesian Church hated "the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I (our Glorified CHRIST) also hate" ( Rev. 2:1-6). Yet, the Pergamos Church appointed certain Nicolaitans into their church leadership positions and adopted and practiced ("hold") "the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate" ( Rev. 2:12-16).
I also looked up the word "hold" ( Rev. 2:15) in my Greek dictionary and discovered it translates from the Greek verb root (pronounced "krat-EH-o"), which speaks of church leaders using dictatorial power over the church to enforce their Nicolaitan doctrine. This sets a dangerous precedence, for the powerful often gain power over the church far beyond that prescribed in the New Testament.
If "Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them" (3Jn. v.9), was not a Nicolaitan, he certainly seemed to have patterned his authoritarian intimidation after their doctrine.
Reading your post has given me some thoughts for adding to my own commentary. Thank you.
There are two views as to what the Nicolaitans are. One view is that the Nicolaitans were led by a man named Nicholas. He's mentioned back in Acts 6:5. He's one of the men that were chosen to distribute bread to the Greek speaking Jewish community. Some historical documents say that Nicholas left the church and became a Gnostic, and began spreading false teaching.
There is another view, which appears to be the correct view since the Nicolaitans were not even that well established at this time as far as Nicholas goes.
The word Nicolaitan is made up of two Greek words, NIKE (pronounced nee-kay) and is the word for overcome. It's the word for victory. And LAOS means the people. It represented the democratic control of the people in the church, where the leaders ruled. They lorded it over the flock. And the Lord says I hate that!
You see, we're all equal. If God wanted me to be a leader, it would not be because I'm more special than anybody else. He might call me to that particular function, but that doesn't mean that once I start functioning in that area, that I know the Lord better than you do.
Many churches have fallen because the leaders took human control over the church, and they themselves were not governed by God's Spirit. The deeds of the Nicolaitans, the lording it over the flock, the human democracy over God's people, God says He hates.
That doesn't mean that there cannot be administration. But Christians today function like Jesus Christ ascended up into heaven, and left us here to do His work for Him. No! He's still here. He's still the head of the church. He's our leader. And if you're in leadership, you still look to the leader who is Jesus Christ.
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to DESTRUCTION and MANY there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and NARROW is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Book of Acts 6:8
Why not read on the life of Paul. He is proof that Jesus calls the right person for the job in mind. Paul was born Jewish, educated and a Pharisee. He hooked up with the Romans, and was in town the day Stephen was about to be stoned for preaching Jesus. Paul gave the order for the stoning to begin. Before Stephen died, he saw Jesus stand up from His throne, to receive Stephen into heaven!
Paul leaves with death warrants for some more Jews. On the Damascus Road he gets knocked off his horse by the glory of Jesus. It was so light that it blinded Paul. Jesus asked him, Why Are You Persecuting ME?!
They pick Paul up and take him to the next town. Someone there prayed for Paul, and he gets his sight back. He had some days as a blind man to ponder what had happened. Later Jesus tells Paul he is sent to evangelize the Gentiles (everybody that's not a Jew)
He started out rowdy and wrong; got knocked off into the dirt. Spent 3 hrs in a desert alone with Jesus. He wasn't tall; eyes were kinda runny?
He wrote half of the New Testament. Whatever Jesus spoke, Paul preached it. He worked as a tent-maker. He was a gutsy dude.
When I saw your post, the Holy Spirit flashed this story. Has God ever tried to reach out to you?
Acts 6:5. And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, ( A MAN FULL OF FAITH AND OF THE HOLY GHOST, ) and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:
There's nowhere in scripture where angels are filled with the Holy Spirit.
Maybe that notion is drawn from this verse.
Acts 6:15. And all that sat in the council, looking stedfastly on him, saw his face as it had been the face of an angel..
They saw his face AS IT HAD BEEN THE FACE OF AN ANGEL.
Do you have any Scripture to suggest this, Deborah? What we read of Stephen in the Book of Acts, shows him as a man "full of faith & power" ( Acts 6:8) who was subsequently stoned to death ( Acts 7:58-60) for his vibrant preaching of Jesus. Even though the Jewish council members beheld him as seeing the "face of an angel" (6:15), we could understand that Stephen's countenance so changed, reflecting the fullness of the Holy Spirit & the absolute joy & confidence that he had in his Saviour & Lord. The fact that Stephen eventually had to physically die also gives proof that he wasn't an angel, just a man, as angels are eternal beings who can never die.
Are you saying, that as Stephen was being stoned to death (under Paul's supervision);
Jesus who is SEATED at the right hand of God, STOOD up as Steven died. Acts 7:55-56
The Bible says he's seated, but in this event He stood up... ? Anyone wanna bet that Steven did not descend to a place of holding. After this event, Paul was blinded, knocked off his horse, and questioned by Jesus, "why are you persecuting ME?!"
Acts 6:8
And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.
Acts 6:9
Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia and of Asia, disputing with Stephen.
Acts 7:59
And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my SPIRIT.
Acts 8:2
And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.
Acts 11:19
Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.
Acts 22:20
And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also (Saul) was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.
There's is no doubt that Stephens spirit is in heaven now.
And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord ADDED to the church daily such as should be saved.
Acts 5:42
And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.
Acts 6:1
And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration.
Acts 16:5
And so were the churches established in the faith, and INCREASED in number daily.
Acts 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
We need to check in daily with ACLJ dot com to see what Petitions need signatures
Regarding, the House Democrats that are trying to close American Churches, BAN singing in Church, penalize Church members not wearing face masks! Even going so far as penalizing Christians who have Home Bible studies!!!
Our Constitutional Freedoms regarding Churches are going away because of lack of information, not signing Petitions to stop these illegal actions,
Complacency, inaction and not "getting involved" for whatever reason. THIS is the Church that Jesus shed His Blood, to plant in the Book of Acts. It's Biblical; It's the KNOWN Will of God, through Jesus Christ.
So, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT JESUS?
The Senate isn't doing this atrocity. It's Nancy Pelosi (who said on camera that she's a devoted Catholic and doesn't hate anybody)
....and her personal gang of "yes men and women".
I think it's time the Church rose up and protest by holding up signs by the roadsides....AND SINGING
With face masks of course. We need to show we are not going to let them win!
In the Bible, women were never 'ordained' to any position in the Church, since the Church pattern is meant to follow the pattern of creation ( 1 Corinthians 11:3). However, we do see instances of women serving in the Church though not in the formal way of being appointed to the position as Elders are appointed. Examples such as Romans chapter 16, where Phebe, Priscilla & Mary are seen as having been helpful to the Church body or to Paul himself. Phebe particularly is spoken of as a 'servant of the Cenchrean Church' where she served in some way. However, Paul didn't allocate a title to her, as he spoke of deacons in Philippians 1:1 & 1 Timothy chapter 3, to which he was referring to men fulfilling that role.
So in my understanding, that although women were never given a position of 'deaconess' in the early Church, their contribution to the life & ministry to the Church was well reported of & greatly appreciated. And after all, the position or work of a deacon was essentially to carry out the 'other types of work' that would free up the apostles ( Acts 6:1-6), & no doubt later, to help the elder/pastor by performing these other duties. In their desire to allocate titles to every one that has an 'official duty' to perform, many Churches today have appointed both deacons & deaconesses to fulfil this need. This may not be altogether wrong, if the main reason for doing so, is for the serving the Body of Christ & being useful in building her up.
names and titles used. Its important to see man work in the changes in the scriptures.
I agree with your explaination of letter J. When I found out it was more serious than that.
Christianity started in a gentile area called Antioch. what scripture say this.....
"And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."
now who started christianity... from much praying.. and then searching i came to
Acts 6:5
"And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:"
stephen was killed and believers were scattered and Nicolas returned to Antioch and that when the first christians started.. Nicolas.. st Nicolas.. ..Santa claws. brings in christmasn xmas tree ( Jeremiah 10:1-9), easter replaces passover feast of the unleaven bread. easter and xmas are paigans.
this I now know Paul
didn't identify himself as a christian be was a believer and follower of the WAY.
Acts 24:14
"But this I confess unto thee, that after the WAY which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:"
John 1:1 and 14
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
John 14:6
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
The disciples were believers who followed the WAY. the WORD that became flesh is the truth Messias.
Revelation 19:13
"And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Marjorie Hodges
Your right about this church. Let us never l se our first love. Many church people are so busy doing things for the church...social groups....garage sales etc. that they put the Lord on the back burner and soon their first love is warm
The only references I can think of that the Church can appoint as assistants, are found in Acts 6:1-6, where the apostles felt that their ministry was being diverted from the Word of God to looking after the physical needs of others (such as to the widows needing help). And the other mention of this type of ministry, which comes under the umbrella of 'deacon', or a part of the office of the 'diaconate', is found in 1 Timothy 3:8-13, concerning the character & Christian witness of those men so employed.
Praying, giving, visiting, encouraging are big things needed. GOD to shine HIS face on all on this forum. Wisdom upon our elected leaders in DC, and local, regional positions. GOD bless all on this platform, and especially the brethren in CHRIST JESUS.
January 7, 2023
Acts 6:8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.
Acts 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
As you said Brother Jesse "Under the influence of God's Spirit, it is fascinating how people can function in various situations.
Apart from God's spirit we would be on the other side of the stoning.
Acts 6:8 and throughout ch 7 you see a God's spirit filled vessel emphasized in the power of Stephen.
And in Daniel 4:1-37 you see the humbling record of King Nebuchadnezzar by the Lord.
NOTICE THE DECREE;
"Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him. Daniel 4:16.
NEBUCHADNEZZAR'S RESPONSE;
"The king spake, and said, Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for the house of the kingdom by the might of my power, and for the honour of my majesty? Daniel 4:30.
THE HUMBLING BY THE LORD!
While the word was in the king's mouth, there fell a voice from heaven, saying, O king Nebuchadnezzar, to thee it is spoken; The kingdom is departed from thee.
And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will. Daniel 4:31-32.
THE RESULTS OF THE HUMBLING;
"Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase. Daniel 4:37.
The Holyspirit is powerful, mysterious, and always active in diverse ways.
God bless.
John 17, James 1, James 2,
Matthew 5:23,24,44, Matthew 6:5-34, Mark 11:24, Luke 18:1-14, Matthew 17:15-21, Mark 9:17-29,
Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21:36,
Hope these are helpful
In observing such a topic; we are wise to remember Christ's statement that the greatest is the servant of all in Matthew 23:11.
The issue; of course was in both cases the gifts of the ministry were not being given the time to blossom for those God has placed in authority in the church. It is perhaps illustrated most commonly with the situation of a Pastor; but certainly could involve others who are overburdened within a church. That is where it gets tricky. With any ministry; it can be assumed that whatever the individual does the most is a reflection of their particular calling. There is a subtle difference between what a person is gifted in and the fruit of the Spirit which exemplifies their unique disposition. Someone; for instance could be very patient and longsuffering (a faruit); and it is assumed they are showing a gift of mercy or helps. They may in fact have wisdom from above; and a need to share through fellowship or Bible study things which are needed for mutual edification. We needn't dismiss a Pastor from helping with the "down and dirty" tasks either; at least we would expect help on a service day cleaning up a church; for instance.
When we look at Christ as our example; he indeed washed the Disciple's feet. ( John 13). We do NOT see any evidence that he went to towns to buy food (He would occasionally CREATE food when necessary). The concept of being invited to people's homes in order to preach the Gospel seems to be a lost art these days. Also Luke 10:38-42 shows how obsessively serving a guest may not be the best approach at times.
1Timothy 5, 1Corinthians 7, Deuteronomy 24:17,
I believe the Rules/Laws GOD gave forth to Moses for the Israelites was the ideal plan. These rules weren't not for "the rebellious nations, surrounding" probably because they may just disregard anyway.
I believe it's good if we look into the Laws & consider sincerely what we can apply today. Deuteronomy 14:29, Deuteronomy 16, we should share in our increase ( abundance ) Deuteronomy 24:19,20,21, elimination of greed, in every area
Deuteronomy 10:18,
James 1:27 , Matthew 25:35-41, Deuteronomy 26:13,14,
I also love the Word of God, in Acts 1, the former treatise referring to Luke's gospel, "all Jesus began to do and teach". In vs. 2 after Jesus ascended, He gave commandments through the Holy Spirit. At that time, they were still looking for the Messiah to set up the kingdom and free them from Rome, vs. 6 "Lord wilt thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel".
In vs. 7 and 8, Jesus told them it was not for them to know the times or seasons and after the Holy Spirit came, they would receive power and guidance. They were told they would be witnesses unto the uttermost part of the world, but they were not told when, the Holy Spirit would tell them when and whereas we see throughout the New Testament.
They stayed in Jerusalem, it was not until after Stephen's death by the same council that put Jesus to death, stopped their ears, their rejection of the Messiah was complete. Not until then did the Holy Spirit direct them to preach Jesus to Samaria. It was Philip, not the apostle but the evangelist, one of the 7, Acts 6:5 went into Samaria and was the first to preach Jesus. When the apostles who were still in Jerusalem heard, Peter and John went to see, Acts 8. Acts 9 Paul and Acts 10 Peter's dream.
We see how the Holy Spirit led Peter; Peter even said it was unlawful for a Jew to keep company with one of another nation, but God through the Holy Spirit showed him that God is no respecter of persons. My understanding is at this time the 70-week prophecy given to Daniel that was determined upon Daniel's people and the holy city was fulfilled,
You do not have to reply, I did not intend to create a debate, I just thought you may like to study it. I know many places the 70th week at the end times but what if it has been fulfilled?
God bless,
RLW
I did some reading some time ago about the Nicolaitans and this man, Nicolas was a proselyte from Antioch. Many believe, and from the history of this man, that he eventually left God's work somewhere down the line and he gathered his own following.
Nicolas is mentioned in Acts 6:5. He's one of the men that were chosen to distribute bread to the Greek speaking Jewish community.
Some historical documents say that Nicolas left the church and became a Gnostic, and began spreading false teaching.
And because his name is Nicolas, they were called the Nicolaitans. They were followers of Nicolas, and the trail leads back, at least to the historians and the archaeologists, to this Nicolas of Antioch. Just a side note!
I do thank you for your thoughts on both Koine and modern Greek. Some of the Greek you have shared has helped me out.
Other commentators believe that these Nicolaitans were not so called from any man, but from the Greek word Nicolah, meaning "let us eat," as they often encouraged each other to eat things offered to idols. Whichever theory is true, it is certain that the deeds of the Nicolaitans were an abomination to Christ. They, like the Gnostics and other false teachers, abused the doctrine of grace and tried to introduce licentiousness in its place ( 2 Peter 2:15, 19; Jude 1:4).
Jesus commends the church of Ephesus for hating the deeds of the Nicolaitans as He does ( Revelation 2:6). No doubt the leaders of the Ephesian church protected their flock from these destructive heresies and kept their people from committing the same evil deeds. All sin is hateful to Christ, as it should be to His followers, as we hate men's evil deeds, not the men themselves. For the church at Pergamos, Jesus had not commendation, but censure. Unlike the Ephesians, they actually embraced the teachings of the Nicolaitans ( Revelation 2:15). Jesus warns them that unless they repent, they are in danger of the judgment that is sure to fall on those who teach false doctrine, attack His church, and destroy His people. The sword of judgment is poised over their heads, and His patience is not limitless ( Revelation 2:16; 19:15).
Matthew 1:6 Jesus called Christ, John 4:25, Luke 6:15, John 1:42, John 11:16, not Colossians 4:11,
Romans 2:17, Romans 7:3, same supposed writer as Acts , also Romans 9:26
Matthew 26:14, Luke 23:33, John 19:13, John 19:17, Acts 6:9, Revelation 11:8,
Revelation 12:9,
Luke 2:4, Luke 8:2, John 21:2, different than Acts 9:11,
Acts 1:23, Acts 9:36,
Colossians 3:15, 1John 3:1,
Hopefully these are all helpful in your study
There are 2 views as to who the Nicolaitans are. One is that the Nicolaitans were led by a man named Nicholas. He's mentioned in Acts 6:5. He's one of the men that were chosen to distribute bread to the Greek speaking Jewish community. Some historical documents say that Nicholas left the church and became a Gnostic and began spreading false teaching.
Another view, which appears to be the correct view since the Nicolaitans were not even that well established at this time as far as Nicholas goes. The word Nicolaitan is made up of two Greek words. One word, and I can't spell it out because this website will reject it as advertisement, but it is the same name of the athletic shoe with the swoosh mark on it. In Greek, it is pronounced nee-kay, which is the word for overcome or victory. The second word is LAOS which means the people.
It represented the democratic control of the people in the church, where the leaders ruled. They lorded it over the flock and the Lord says I hate that! Jesus Christ is still the head of the church. Leaders are put in position to be of service to Christ, but if anybody in the church should be sensitive and humbled to God speaking through the people in the church, and the congregation, it ought to be the leaders.
We're all equal. If God wanted me to be a leader, it would not be because I'm more special than anyone else or that I know the Lord better than you. Many churches have fallen because the leaders took human control over the church, and they themselves were not governed by God's Spirit. The deeds of the Nicolaitans, the lording it over the flock, the human democracy over God's people, God says He hates.
Christians today function like Jesus Christ ascended up into heaven, and left us here to do His work for Him. No, He's still here. He's still the head of the church. He's our leader. And if you're in leadership, you still look to the leader who is Jesus Christ.
Hope this helps?
Everything from KJV is in here, the oldest recorded scripture in the world, I love this bible so much. Saw it in 2002, it is many years ago and so easy to read.
Hope you enjoy the pages and you can download the whole Bible KJV for free from the site. It is the best gift :) Take care of yourself in this world. Jesus loves you.
Acts 4:13-31
If the Spirit speaks to one to keep Sabbath as a rest day, then to that person they should abide - but to another, the Sabbath was not given to Gentiles & any day can be for rest & also for worship ( Romans 14:5,6 & the whole chapter).
Gentile? If you have no Jewish heritage, then you fall under the Gentile category. If the Gentile has not received the Law, he is a law unto himself ( Romans 2:14,15). Of course, all peoples are under governmental law, unless they're hidden away from society. But for both the Jewish Christian & Gentile Christian, the old Law has no more application or binding, for we are now subject to the Law of the Spirit. I don't believe that anyone with the Holy Spirit within them would ever be led to murder, commit fornication, & other sins. If a believer does sin, then he's going against the Spirit's ministry & appealing to his flesh (& this is why Paul spoke of crucifying the flesh ( Galatians 5:24,25)).
Jew? When I wrote, 'Jewish convert', I meant that such a person still retains his Jewish heritage/bloodline, but has relinquished all that kept him bound to his faith (Judaism), finding forgiveness of sins, new life & liberty through the promised Messiah, Jesus Christ. The Jews today still await the Messiah, but Jesus came, but they refused Him & crucified Him ( John 1:10-14). But the day will come when they will acknowledge Jesus ( Zechariah 12:10,11; Revelation 1:7,8). People have in the past become Jewish proselytes, embracing Judaism, its Laws & Practises ( Exodus 12:48,49; Acts 2:10; Acts 6:5; Acts 13:43). I hope that I've covered all your questions; if you have other questions feel free to start a new thread. Blessings.
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Yours Truly, Christi Lovejoy
Smith's Bible Dictionary
Nicolaitans:
(followers of Nicolas) a sect mentioned in Revelation 2:6; 2:15 whose deeds were strongly condemned. They may have been identical with those who held the doctrine of Balaam. They seem to have held that it was lawful to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit fornication, in opposition to the decree of the Church rendered in Acts 15:20; 15:29. The teachers of the Church branded them with a name which expressed their true character. The men who did and taught such things were followers of Balaam ( 2 Peter 2:15; Jude 1:11). They, like the false prophet of Pethor, united brave words with evil deeds. In a time of persecution, when the eating or not eating of things sacrificed to idols was more than ever a crucial test of faithfulness, they persuaded men more than ever that was a thing indifferent ( Revelation 2:13-14). This was bad enough, but there was a yet worse evil. Mingling themselves in the orgies of idolatrous feasts, they brought the impurities of those feasts into the meetings of the Christian Church. And all this was done, it must be remembered not simply as an indulgence of appetite: but as a part of a system, supported by a "doctrine," accompanied by the boast of a prophetic illumination ( 2 Peter 2:1). It confirms the view which has been taken of their character to find that stress is laid in the first instance on the "deeds" of the Nicolaitans. To hate those deeds is a sign of life in a Church that otherwise is weak and faithless ( Revelation 2:6). To tolerate them is well nigh to forfeit the glory of having been faithful under persecution ( Revelation 2:14-15).
I'm always reminded of Stephen's witness (in Acts 6:8-15 & Acts 7:1-60) as a worthy example. Stephen preached the Word with boldness knowing the volatile reaction of both the Jews & their Council. And even when dragged away to be stoned, Stephen had every opportunity to recant his faith or at least retract his accusatory message against them - but he remained faithful to the Lord. And notice the special enabling by the Spirit upon Him in Acts 7:55-60, giving him a special revelation of Heaven's Glory, hence the certainty of his death. All he saw from that time on was the Triune God & his own soon departure to that blessed place. The anger, the jeers & stones of death that pummeled him were no match to what God had prepared for him.
How would we respond if facing a similar situation? How many 'Christians' would do whatever they could to save their lives rather than lose it for Christ's sake? For most of us, we've never had to face such a threat, but for many all over the world, they would rather remain faithful to the Lord Who bought them than deny Him. This gives us a glimpse of a "true believer": one in whom the Spirit dwells & will stand faithful by the Spirit's enabling in the hour of temptation. "Not many who say Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven".
The story of the church of the New Testament isn't the story of victory after victory. There were major battles that had to be fought to keep the early church united. In particular, there were two early disagreements in the church and one battle against false doctrine that had the potential to divide the church or to send the church on a downward spiral into false doctrine.
First, Acts 6:1-7.In the early church, there quickly arose a disagreement between the Hebraic Jewish Christians and the Grecian Jewish Christians. Both groups were Christian. Also, both groups were Jewish. But one group spoke Hebrew and the other group spoke Greek (thus the distinction between Hebraic Jewish Christians and Grecian Jewish Christians). The disagreement came fromthe Grecian Jewish Christians whose widows were being neglected in the daily distribution of food. So, in essence this was an ethic controversy. The Grecian Jewish Christians brought their grievance to the apostles. This threatened the unity of the church, so the apostles acted. The oversaw the selection of specific men of Grecian background (we conjecture that they were Grecian based on their names) to oversee the distribution of food to the Grecian widows. This solution worked well. Unity continued until the battle for unity occurred. That's usually how it works. Peace reigns for a while, then another controversy emerges
The implication of the term "Nicolaitan" suggests that a despotic authoritarian, or a power-grabbing hierarchy desired to assume unauthorized lordship as priests over the church, thus usurping The Headship of CHRIST ( Eph. 1:22; 5:23; Col. 1:18).
The church must never underestimate the influential power these charismatic religious heretics have over gullible churches. Note how the Ephesian Church hated "the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I (our Glorified CHRIST) also hate" ( Rev. 2:1-6). Yet, the Pergamos Church appointed certain Nicolaitans into their church leadership positions and adopted and practiced ("hold") "the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate" ( Rev. 2:12-16).
There, the word "hold" ( Rev. 2:15) translates from the Greek verb root (pronounced "kra-TEH-"), which speaks of church leaders using dictatorial power over the church to enforce their Nicolaitan "doctrine". This sets a dangerous precedence, for the powerful often gain manipulative power over the church far beyond that prescribed in the New Testament (cp. Mt. 20:25-28; 1Pet. 5:2-3).
If "Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them" (3Jn. v.9), was not a Nicolaitan, he certainly seemed to have patterned his authoritarian intimidation after their doctrine.
If I may give my understanding, did Jesus speak in parables, if so, why? Luke 8:10. In this chapter Jesus was condemning putting faith in wealth and not God, using parables. The Sadducees especially were covetous, they flaunted their wealth and the seat of authority they had and were living in adultery. The Pharisees held many spiritual beliefs not found in the Law of Moses and started in on Jesus. So, according to the rest of the context, Lazarus and the rich man was most likely a parable on the same subject.
One thing I have found that bears consideration on Luke 16 parable. When Jesus first came, many of the Jews were highly Hellenized and many interpretations of the Law had changed. Greek had become for many the major language and Greek philosophy was deep.
We see when Stephen and others were chosen to tend to the Hellenized (Grecian) Christian Jewish widows Acts 6:1-5. This parable would have been understood by the heavy Greek influence about death that still influences today. Jesus explains many of the parables to the disciples but this explanation is not recorded. But, is just being poor worthy of the gift of eternal life?
If our soul or spirit is immortal why would scripture say we are mortal and must put on immortality and this happens at the resurrection. 1 Corinthians 15:53-57. Does it not say we are sown in corruption, 1 Corinthians 15:42-44? Is not resurrection rising from the dead not descending from the living?
When this body dies what is left? Scripture tells us without spirit our body dies, James 2:26. Spirit, Latin spiritus, Greek pneuma, is breath, life, and consciousness, being awake, aware of your surrounding and how we respond to it either with vigor or idleness 1 Corinthians 2:11.
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Thank you for reminding me of the Nicolaitans ( Rev. 2:6 & 15). The proper name "Nicolaitans" literally means "conqueror (or destroyer) of the laity (people)." I cannot find any proof that they were disciples of the Nicolas mentioned only in Acts 6:5. I certainly do not desire to defame that particular Nicolas based on conjecture or speculation.
The implication of the term "Nicolaitan" suggests that a despotic authoritarian, or a hierarchy had assumed unauthorized lordship as priests over the church, thus usurping The Headship of CHRIST ( Eph. 1:22; 5:23; Col. 1:18).
The church must never underestimate the influential power these charismatic religious heretics have over gullible churches. Note how the Ephesian Church hated "the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I (our Glorified CHRIST) also hate" ( Rev. 2:1-6). Yet, the Pergamos Church appointed certain Nicolaitans into their church leadership positions and adopted and practiced ("hold") "the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate" ( Rev. 2:12-16).
I also looked up the word "hold" ( Rev. 2:15) in my Greek dictionary and discovered it translates from the Greek verb root (pronounced "krat-EH-o"), which speaks of church leaders using dictatorial power over the church to enforce their Nicolaitan doctrine. This sets a dangerous precedence, for the powerful often gain power over the church far beyond that prescribed in the New Testament.
If "Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them" (3Jn. v.9), was not a Nicolaitan, he certainly seemed to have patterned his authoritarian intimidation after their doctrine.
Reading your post has given me some thoughts for adding to my own commentary. Thank you.
There are two views as to what the Nicolaitans are. One view is that the Nicolaitans were led by a man named Nicholas. He's mentioned back in Acts 6:5. He's one of the men that were chosen to distribute bread to the Greek speaking Jewish community. Some historical documents say that Nicholas left the church and became a Gnostic, and began spreading false teaching.
There is another view, which appears to be the correct view since the Nicolaitans were not even that well established at this time as far as Nicholas goes.
The word Nicolaitan is made up of two Greek words, NIKE (pronounced nee-kay) and is the word for overcome. It's the word for victory. And LAOS means the people. It represented the democratic control of the people in the church, where the leaders ruled. They lorded it over the flock. And the Lord says I hate that!
You see, we're all equal. If God wanted me to be a leader, it would not be because I'm more special than anybody else. He might call me to that particular function, but that doesn't mean that once I start functioning in that area, that I know the Lord better than you do.
Many churches have fallen because the leaders took human control over the church, and they themselves were not governed by God's Spirit. The deeds of the Nicolaitans, the lording it over the flock, the human democracy over God's people, God says He hates.
That doesn't mean that there cannot be administration. But Christians today function like Jesus Christ ascended up into heaven, and left us here to do His work for Him. No! He's still here. He's still the head of the church. He's our leader. And if you're in leadership, you still look to the leader who is Jesus Christ.
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to DESTRUCTION and MANY there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and NARROW is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Book of Acts 6:8
Why not read on the life of Paul. He is proof that Jesus calls the right person for the job in mind. Paul was born Jewish, educated and a Pharisee. He hooked up with the Romans, and was in town the day Stephen was about to be stoned for preaching Jesus. Paul gave the order for the stoning to begin. Before Stephen died, he saw Jesus stand up from His throne, to receive Stephen into heaven!
Paul leaves with death warrants for some more Jews. On the Damascus Road he gets knocked off his horse by the glory of Jesus. It was so light that it blinded Paul. Jesus asked him, Why Are You Persecuting ME?!
They pick Paul up and take him to the next town. Someone there prayed for Paul, and he gets his sight back. He had some days as a blind man to ponder what had happened. Later Jesus tells Paul he is sent to evangelize the Gentiles (everybody that's not a Jew)
He started out rowdy and wrong; got knocked off into the dirt. Spent 3 hrs in a desert alone with Jesus. He wasn't tall; eyes were kinda runny?
He wrote half of the New Testament. Whatever Jesus spoke, Paul preached it. He worked as a tent-maker. He was a gutsy dude.
When I saw your post, the Holy Spirit flashed this story. Has God ever tried to reach out to you?
Read Acts. Keep coming back here. I like you.
Mishael
No, He was a man full of the Holy Ghost
as seen here in acts.
Acts 6:5. And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, ( A MAN FULL OF FAITH AND OF THE HOLY GHOST, ) and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:
There's nowhere in scripture where angels are filled with the Holy Spirit.
Maybe that notion is drawn from this verse.
Acts 6:15. And all that sat in the council, looking stedfastly on him, saw his face as it had been the face of an angel..
They saw his face AS IT HAD BEEN THE FACE OF AN ANGEL.
God bless
Jesus who is SEATED at the right hand of God, STOOD up as Steven died. Acts 7:55-56
The Bible says he's seated, but in this event He stood up... ? Anyone wanna bet that Steven did not descend to a place of holding. After this event, Paul was blinded, knocked off his horse, and questioned by Jesus, "why are you persecuting ME?!"
Acts 6:8
And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.
Acts 6:9
Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia and of Asia, disputing with Stephen.
Acts 7:59
And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my SPIRIT.
Acts 8:2
And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.
Acts 11:19
Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.
Acts 22:20
And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also (Saul) was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.
There's is no doubt that Stephens spirit is in heaven now.
Note: Acts 5:29-33
Mishael
And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord ADDED to the church daily such as should be saved.
Acts 5:42
And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.
Acts 6:1
And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration.
Acts 16:5
And so were the churches established in the faith, and INCREASED in number daily.
Acts 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
We need to check in daily with ACLJ dot com to see what Petitions need signatures
Regarding, the House Democrats that are trying to close American Churches, BAN singing in Church, penalize Church members not wearing face masks! Even going so far as penalizing Christians who have Home Bible studies!!!
Our Constitutional Freedoms regarding Churches are going away because of lack of information, not signing Petitions to stop these illegal actions,
Complacency, inaction and not "getting involved" for whatever reason. THIS is the Church that Jesus shed His Blood, to plant in the Book of Acts. It's Biblical; It's the KNOWN Will of God, through Jesus Christ.
So, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT JESUS?
The Senate isn't doing this atrocity. It's Nancy Pelosi (who said on camera that she's a devoted Catholic and doesn't hate anybody)
....and her personal gang of "yes men and women".
I think it's time the Church rose up and protest by holding up signs by the roadsides....AND SINGING
With face masks of course. We need to show we are not going to let them win!
Mishael
So in my understanding, that although women were never given a position of 'deaconess' in the early Church, their contribution to the life & ministry to the Church was well reported of & greatly appreciated. And after all, the position or work of a deacon was essentially to carry out the 'other types of work' that would free up the apostles ( Acts 6:1-6), & no doubt later, to help the elder/pastor by performing these other duties. In their desire to allocate titles to every one that has an 'official duty' to perform, many Churches today have appointed both deacons & deaconesses to fulfil this need. This may not be altogether wrong, if the main reason for doing so, is for the serving the Body of Christ & being useful in building her up.
I agree with your explaination of letter J. When I found out it was more serious than that.
Christianity started in a gentile area called Antioch. what scripture say this.....
"And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."
now who started christianity... from much praying.. and then searching i came to
Acts 6:5
"And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:"
stephen was killed and believers were scattered and Nicolas returned to Antioch and that when the first christians started.. Nicolas.. st Nicolas.. ..Santa claws. brings in christmasn xmas tree ( Jeremiah 10:1-9), easter replaces passover feast of the unleaven bread. easter and xmas are paigans.
this I now know Paul
didn't identify himself as a christian be was a believer and follower of the WAY.
Acts 24:14
"But this I confess unto thee, that after the WAY which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:"
John 1:1 and 14
John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
John 14:6
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
The disciples were believers who followed the WAY. the WORD that became flesh is the truth Messias.
Revelation 19:13
"And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Your right about this church. Let us never l se our first love. Many church people are so busy doing things for the church...social groups....garage sales etc. that they put the Lord on the back burner and soon their first love is warm