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Part II (Previous) Gospel of the kingdom

Rightly Divided From ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

Gospel Of The GRACE Of God =

Gospel of the Uncircumcision ( Galatians 2:7; Galatians 6:15; Romans 4:9-11)

Preached first by Paul, then his companions ( Acts 13:38-39; Acts 20:24; Acts 16:31; Romans 3:24)

The Mystery Program for The Gentiles ( Ephesians 3:1-3; Colossians 1:25-27; Romans 16:25)

The preaching of The Cross as Good News ( 1 Corinthians 1:18; 1 Corinthians 2:2; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4)

Gospel to be believed = Christ's Work ( Romans 5:6 Romans 5:8 Romans 5:10; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

Salvation By GRACE Through faith plus nothing ( Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 4:5; Titus 3:5)

Justification by faith without works emphasized ( Romans 3:28; Romans 4:5,16; Galatians 2:16)

Repentance as a synonym for faith ( Acts 17:30; Acts 20:21; Acts 26:20; Romans 2:4)

Involves reconciliation to God and man ( Romans 5:10-11; Romans 11:15; 2 Corinthians 5:18-20; Ephesians 2:16; Colossians 1:21)

Covers Paul's letters Romans - Philemon (Also Acts 9-28)

Not under the law ( Romans 5:20-21; Romans 6:14; Galatians 5:6)

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IMKane, hope this was helpful answering your Great questions.

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified!

Precious Rick: "sorry was not following conversation correctly...5 called saul "out, vs 6 saul trembling the word is tremo absolute terror, this guy went from no fear bold as brass to absolute terror because his head says whats going on but still says what do you want me to do. No where in that whole conversion did the lord beat/condemn him, why because he was doing it out of ignorance." It's ok:

So, in "that whole conversion" you say Paul "was NOT Saved" Until later, when "Ananias laid hands on him, and he was healed physically and was baptized spiritually"?

1) I believe he was saved/converted, and had the "INDWELLING Holy Spirit, BAPTIZED as the FIRST member" {our 'pattern' ( 1 Timothy 1:16) for God's NEW Dispensation Of GRACE!}, And Today's Body Of CHRIST, ON the road {church Birthday!}, By JESUS' Pure MERCY, because that's where he proclaimed: "LORD, what wilt thou have me to do?" ( Acts 9:6).

We do know THIS Scripture: "Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by The Spirit of God calleth JESUS accursed: and that no man can say that JESUS Is The LORD, but 'BY' The Holy Ghost." ( 1 Corinthians 12:3), Correct?

Thus, IF Paul DID NOT have The Holy Spirit, THEN he would NOT have said: "LORD," Correct?

2) Now, about Ananias {a "devout man according To The LAW!" Acts 22:12}, this could NOT have been the salvation/conversion above, and The ONE Baptism 'BY' The Holy Spirit, because when he "laid hands {NOT our 'pattern'} on Saul," he "received The FILLING of The Spirit, the SAME as The Twelve apostles received, CHRIST Baptizing them 'WITH' The Holy Spirit, For "power, signs, and wonders," Which Were In Effect, "Confirming The Word," UNTIL The Scriptures Were Completed. This was done by Paul, "fulfilling/Completing" The Scriptures With Romans-Philemon = God's Revelation Of The MYSTERY! ( Colossians 1:25-26).

3) Thus, ALL the THIRTEEN apostles had this power to CONFIRM CHRIST's Messages In Which LAW Disappeared as GRACE Came to be IN FULL EFFECT! Amen?

Precious brother Chris, I appreciate your Great discussion with me. I have posted for several years, and you are The Very First to consider/discuss these things. The rest have just written me off as confused or a heretic (denying Acts 2:38). So, in my understanding of (NOT denying) it:

I believe Paul "did baptize some" during God's Transition from Law (with water) to HIS PURE GRACE (Without water!). Most think that the great commission to the Twelve apostles of Israel, is 'exactly the same' as the commission to Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles. This does not make sense since CHRIST told the Twelve THEY "WERE SENT"

to baptize, while CHRIST told Paul he "WAS NOT SENT to baptize." {the same thing?}

I cannot reconcile that for today, because God Gave Paul A 'Different' Program, The Revelation Of The MYSTERY, With The Gospel Of GRACE, And the "commission of Reconciliation" Because of CHRIST's Finished Work on The Cross!

( Romans 16:25) ( Colossians 1:20) ( 2 Corinthians 5:17-21) + ( 2 Corinthians 6:2)

Thus, I believe This "Hid In God" Revelation ( Ephesians 3:9) Must Be:

Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

Many 'assume' The Gospel Of GRACE was Immediately preached after the cross, but

closer Prayerful/Careful examination reveals:

1) LAW was preached, obeyed, and taught to "thousand of Jewish believers"

( Matthew 28:19-20) Notice: Christ Specifically Said "teaching them TO OBSERVE ALL things I HAVE COMMANDED you" - one of them was Matthew 23:1-3, Correct?

2) Water baptized Jewish believers OBEYED ALL CHRIST's Commands, SOLD EVERYTHING, And were "zealous of The LAW," even as late as Acts 21:20!

3) IF the great commission IS FOR US today, then I see NO ONE "obeying it as these were!"

Thus, Chris, I just cannot reconcile LAW "being Exactly THE SAME as" GRACE ( Romans 11:6)

More 'available' on church birthday, and The ONE Baptism {a 'verse for annulment of water'?} "study" of today, IF you wish... Thanks Again, and Be Well, Precious brother!

Brother Rick, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

You are correct, the LORD'S DAY is when you are born again of TRUTH (SPIRIT).

The day of the Lord (second coming of Christ by the baptism of the Holy Ghost) has been happening to those who the Father DRAWS for two thousand years.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it NOT WRITTEN in your LAW, I said ye are gods?

John 10:35 If he (THE WORD) called them (the new born) gods, unto whom (the SPIRIT CAME, THE WORD CAME), and the scripture (THE WORD) cannot be broken (BUT FULLFILLED).

Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery.... Christ in us....

I AM the resurrection; when you come to truth of this resurrection that you took part IN, of the twain to make ONE (I AM ) new man.

We become God's glory at the redemption of HIS PURCHASED POSSESSION.

When his angels (spiritual messengers) come to harvest HIS SEED at the death of this body of flesh.

RLW: "we will be here and we must be prepared":

Now, this is quite interesting, what is your take, RLW, on three of your so-called "prophecy Experts," who Will Be Here, and the "way THEY teach to be prepared"?:

(1) says to {SELFishly?} "hoard UP SEVEN years worth of food for the coming famine"

(2) says to "FLEE from the cities to the protection of the RURAL areas"

(3) says to "FLEE from the U.S. To the safety of Ethiopia"???

(4) maybe you have "another idea" for preparedness?

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Now, those of us, In The Body Of CHRIST:

(A) who are looking, watching, and waiting patiently For The LORD JESUS CHRIST ( 2 Thessalonians 2:1) ( Romans 8:18-19) ( Romans 8:23) ( Romans 8:25) ( 1 Corinthians 1:7) ( Ephesians 6:12-18) ( Philippians 3:20) ( Colossians 4:1-3) ( 1 Thessalonians 1:10) ( 1 Thessalonians 5:5-11) ( Titus 2:13)

(B) To Take us home to Heaven ( 2 Corinthians 5:1) ( 2 Corinthians 5:2) ( Ephesians 1:3) ( Ephesians 1:20) ( Ephesians 2:6) ( Philippians 3:20) ( Colossians 1:5) ( 2 Timothy 4:18)

Believe OUR "preparation" should be to:

(1) Stay where God Has Called us, preaching The Gospel Of GRACE ( 1 Corinthians 15:3-4) ( Ephesians 2:8-9), to the lost,

(2) "studying" God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15), avoiding ALL of the above Confusion, And:

(3) Using our {God-Given} resources to, In "ONE WORD - LOVE our neighbor" ( Galatians 5:14) ( Romans 13:8-10), and {UNselfishly!} teaching/helping those in need!! ALL in "preparation" for:

(C) Judgment ( 1 Corinthians 3:7-15) for "rewards" for these! Amen?

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened,Exhorted, and Edified!

Sister Janet, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The temple IS NOT a temple made with wood and stone (and built on the temple mount in Israel).

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no TEMPLE (in new Jerusalem) therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the TEMPLE of it (new Jerusalem).

The Father and Son ARE THE TEMPLE (of new Jerusalem).

When you are born again; the Father and Son, NOW come and live in you (new Jerusalem the Holy City).

When you become the body that the Father and Son lives in (CHRIST IN YOU Colossians 1:27); then you become the TEMPLE.

2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the TEMPLE of God with idols (the works of man)? for ye are the TEMPLE of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them (the garden of God), and I will be their God, an they shall be my people.

1 Corinthians 3:16 No ye not that that ye are the TEMPLE OF GOD, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth IN YOU?

Sister Melinda, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, in this world (age) neither in the world to come (age).

The Word of God was written by the HOLY SPIRIT ( 1 Peter 1:21), the HOLY SPIRIT is in you ( Colossians 1:27) ( Ephesians 4:6)

To blashpheme the Holy Spirit means to NOT BELIEVE (reject) what he is saying to you through his written word and the LIVING WORD that is IN YOU.

By not believing, or rejecting his WORD; you would not be saved in this age or in the coming age(s); but will be judged in the coming age(s).

After the next age, possibly ages, you will AGAIN be able to be saved.

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the FULNESS OF TIMES (ages) he might gather together IN ONE ALL THINGS IN CHRIST, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; EVEN IN HIM.

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things (in this and the coming ages) shall be subdued (they will confess him as LORD) unto him (Christ), then shall the Son ALSO HIMSELF be subject unto him (the Father) that put all things under him (Christ), that GOD (the Father) may be ALL IN ALL.

No one is going to be left out of the Kingdom of God; but most want come into the kingdom in the age we are now in.

Amen and Amen, Brother S Spencer, we can't just be wounded by the Word of God ( Revelation 13:3). We have to DIE (be killed) by the Word of God ( Revelation 13:10).

2 Thessalonians 2:8 An then shall that Wicked (US, children of Satan) be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume ( Hebrews 12:29), with the spirit of his mouth (Words of God), and shall DESTROY with the brightness of his coming ( Colossians 1:27 CHRIST IN US).

Sister Loretta:

Romans 8:20 For the creature (CREATION) was made (by God through Christ) subject to vanity (to sin), NOT WILLINGLY (creation had no say in the matter). BUT by REASON (total knowledge and wisdom) of HIM (GOD) who hath subjected the same (CREATION) in HOPE (redemption and deliverance by the WORKS of God through Christ),

Romans 8 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature (CREATION) WAITETH (till the second resurrection) for the manifestation (first resurrection) of the sons of God (The SEED of GOD).

Romans 8:21 But the creature (CREATION) ITSELF also shall be DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption (the GRAVE) into the GLORIOUS LIBERTY of the children of God.

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the FULNESS OF TIMES he might gather IN ONE all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even IN HIM:

Acts 3:21 Whom the HEAVEN (Son of God) must receive until the TIMES OF RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS, which God hath spoken by the mouth of his holy prophets since the world begin.

John 3:13 And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is IN HEAVEN.

Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery...CHRIST IN YOU...

Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Romans 9:23 And that he might make know the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he hath afore prepared unto glory,

Romans 11:31 Even so have these now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Hi Dianne.

When I say create, God brought nothing into something!! Whether you call him Lucifer, The Serpent, The Devil, Satan, Angel, or Cherub. Whether he turned Good to bad or bad to Good, ( In the beginning he didn't exist.) If there was no Lucifer there would be no Devil.

The question wasn't " Did God create the attributes of the Devil"

Lucifer was cast down "From his glorious position" and so did many other Angels, At onetime they didn't exist and God spoke them into existence.

Colossians 1:16. For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, VISIBLE and INVISIBLE, whether they be THRONES, or DOMINIONS, or PRINCIPALITIES, or POWERS: ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM, and for him:

ALL of creation, this World we live in now is nothing like it was when it was created. We only know of it post Adam sin.

Man is flesh, Sinful, unholy, ( The opposite of God, )

We are born descendants of Adam. Someday we will be like Christ.

1 John 3:2. (NOT GODS.)

1 Corinthians 15:45-49 . And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

The world we know will someday be destroyed, and the Heavens,

All creation will be redeemed, There will be a new Heaven and earth. Revelation 21:1.

This creation will be known as the creation of old,

Did God create both the old and the new?

Yes he did.

God bless.

Brother Adam; it is reduced to God doing everything; otherwise, God IS NOT SOVEREIGN.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Spirit) that WORKETH IN YOU BOTH to WILL (his will is made to be your will) and TO DO his good pleasure.

Did Esau have a choice, NO, the WORD had already been spoken (before the foundations of the world) before they were born. The older would serve the younger.

Did Judas have a choice, NO, the WORD was spoken before he was born that he would betray Jesus.

Does mankind have a choice to NOT BOW and CONFESS Jesus is Lord, NO, the WORDS have already been spoken. It is ONLY now a matter of everyone's APPOINTED TIME for the WORKS to be FULLFILLED.

One of God's rules in the Old Testament was that Israel WOULD NOT marry gentiles; yet it was God that made Samson want to marry a gentile woman, going against his own rules.

Judges 14:1-4 But his father and his mother KNEW NOT THAT IT WAS OF THE LORD.

He made EVERYTHING and EVERYONE for HIS PURPOSE.

What IS NOT OF FAITH (of Christ) is SIN.

Grace is totally the WORK of GOD. It has nothing to do with how good or bad a person is. Paul was KILLING GOD'S ELECT (as was Hitler), grace saved Paul; yet man screams Hitler will burn in Hell. Why does man appoint grace to just some people (mostly themselves), when God says he is no respector of persons.

Paul knew the WORKS were ALL OF GOD.

Colossians 1:29 Wherefore I also labour, striving according to HIS WORKING, which WORKETH in me mightly.

Jesus KNEW the Father was doing EVERYTHING in him, that is why he didn't sin.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin.....

Hi Nana,

Yes God created the devil.

Read Ezekiel 28:12-19. take note of verses 14 and 15.

" Ezekiel 28:14-15. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast "CREATED", till iniquity was found in thee."

Psalms 148:2-5. Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.

Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.

Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.

" Let THEM praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were CREATED."

Colossians 1:16. For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

God bless.

Earl Bowman In respect to what you wrote the spirit reveals through it is written 2 Peter 1: 20-21 Jesus Christ came the first time flesh to lost sheep House of Israel they rejected Him. The day of pentecost it became available for anyone via Romans 10:9+10 to be born again of Gods spirit i.e.Christ in you the Hope of glory Colossians 1:25-29 in the age of Grace this age we live in. In 1 Peter 1:10-12 this is so big the prophets were looking for it and the angels desired to look into. This is His body that will be gathered together 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 also 1 Corinthians 15:51-54. It's your privilege to believe what you choose ill stick with it is written. God Bless

Jesse it is also interesting that in context it is talking about those who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit, thereby they will obtain God will.

Hi Rickie.

John 1:3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made "THAT WAS MADE."

It means he created absolutely everything.

Colossians 1:16. For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

God bless.

Amen Brother Jesse.

I've always interpreted that verse that way, but never knew Agathos was in there for the greek as good, boy is that needed to go with the (ALL)!! Otherwise it one can take it the other way.

"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."

"All means anything I want' God will work it out." (INCORRECT.)

"And we know that (ALL) things work together for (SPIRITUAL GOOD) to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."

(God's Will.) Might not be what you wanted or expected, but it's the best thing for you!

Thanks and God bless.

Amen and Amen; Brother Jesse, you comments of truth hit the bullseye dead center.

Mary,

I don't think there's a verse that says those in Christ Jesus. You might be looking for Romans 8:28 which says, "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."

The word good in this verse is the word AGATHOS which means spiritual good. Human good is Kalos. Spiritual good is Agathos. That makes a big difference because if I'm looking at it religiously, humanly, and on a horizontal physical plain, when it says "all things work together for good," that means in the human, God's going to work things out good for me in the human and in the flesh.

But in this verse, it is the word for spiritual good. Also, notice that it doesn't say all things are good. It says that all things are going to be worked out for the good.

What's good and bad in the human, that's our judgment system. To God, everything is good because He's doing everything. And when we have things "go wrong," in God's vocabulary, that's not even in there. "Lord, things are going wrong." To Him, everything is going right.

We know that all things work together for good, and look at the two descriptions of the people for whom everything is working out for the good. It is to those who love God, and to those who are called according to His purpose.

Why? Because everything's going to work out according to the will of God, so that when I do pray for the Lord's will to be done, I can know because this is a promise right from God that all things work together for the good.

Where do i find the verse all thingbwork for the good tothose in Christ Jesus?

Dgjot, ask the Spirit to give you spiritual eyes instead of natural eyes.

John 6:63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing, THE WORDS (Christ is the WORD) that I speak unto you, they (the words, Christ) are SPIRIT, and they (the words, Christ) are LIFE.

...the fearful...unbelieving...murderers (if you hate your brother, you are a murderer ( 1 John 3:15)....

Shall have their part in the lake of fire (THE WORDS ARE CHRIST)

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire (THE WORDS ARE CHRIST)

Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery.... CHRIST IN YOU....(living lake of fire) you are IN IT NOW.

Isaiah 10:16 ...and under his glory (you are the glory of God) he shall kindle a BURNING like the burning of a FIRE (THE WORDS ARE CHRIST).

Everyone is going to be judged in the WORDS ( in Christ, in the Fire (lake of)

The fire burns the trash and purifies you.

The fire is GOOD and necessary.

The fearful no longer fear, the unbelieving, BELIEVE, you love you enemies.

Don't call GOOD (the lake of fire), EVIL.

GRACE, both the gospel ( Luke 17:21) and the mystery ( Romans 16:25) are answered in:

Colossians 1:26 Even the MYSTERY which hath been HID from AGES and GENERATIONS, but is NOW made manifest to HIS SAINTS.

Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this MYSTERY among the Gentiles; which is CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory:

Proscovia naiga,

I do not know your situation, sometimes we can go through some pretty lousy times, that is hard to for us see an out. It can look so dark we cannot see any light. Let me assure you there is light out there if we hold fast to our faith. Start with prayer, ( Psalms 66:20) Blessed be God, which hath not turned away my prayer, nor his mercy from me.



Matthew 6 is a good chapter, if we strive to live in this way the Spirit of Christ will lift us up and give us the strength to get through. We must keep in our thoughts, the life to come is our hope in Jesus Christ. It may take time but don't give in and when you see better times don't forget who brought you through, give Him all the praise and glory.

( James 1:2-4) ( Psalm 34:17) ( Proverbs 3:5-6) ( 2 Corinthians 1:10) ( Colossians 1:13) ( James 1:12)

Prayers for better times for you.

RLW

Trudy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

He who is born of the flesh is flesh, he who is born of the Spirit is SPIRIT.

Does SPIRIT need clothes, streets to walk on, houses with rooms to live in, windows to look out of, doors to go through, sun to give light, food to eat, water to drink.

Behold all things have become NEW.

You want exist as you do NOW.

You become the LIKENESS OF CHRIST (fullness of Deity), who only hath immortality (life with no end).

Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and the knowledge of the Son of God,unto a perfect man, unto the measure and stature of the FULLNESS OF CHRIST.

Ephesians 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be FILLED WITH ALL THE FULLNESS OF GOD.

Which is his body, the FULLNESS of him that filleth all in all.

Colossians 1:29 For in him dwelleth all the FULLNESS of the Godhead bodily.

Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery...CHRIST IN YOU....

John 3:13 No man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of Man which is in heaven (CHRIST IN YOU).

Luke 17:21 .....THE kingdom of GOD is WITHIN YOU.

Revelation 21:1 You are the NEW HEAVEN

Joanne David

The lost sheep of Israel ( Jeremiah 50:6)

Jesus came to fulfill the law, the first covenant, flesh had to live a sinless life under the law of Moses given by God before it was considered an executed contract (fulfilled). The prophets, all prophecy pointing to the coming of their Messiah had to be fulfilled. These two things had to be completed before God could make a new covenant. The first covenant was made with the house of Israel and the second was offered to the house of Israel first but they rejected Jesus as their Messiah.

We see in ( Matthew 10:5-8) that Jesus told the twelve, to go only to the house of Israel and not to go by the way of Gentiles. God even told them when the Messiah would come, ( Daniel 9:25) and in ( Ezekiel 34:23-24) they were told a Shepard was coming. but they did not want to give up their authority and wealth they were enjoying, meaning the Sadducees and Pharisees.



Even when Jesus was born, they heard that it was in Bethlehem they were troubled ( Matthew 2:3) they did not even want to go see if it was their King/Messiah. We see in Acts when they totally said they reject Jesus and the new covenant, when they killed Stephen.

Acts 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,



The Apostles continued to confirm the new covenant to the house of Israel until Peter had his dream and Paul was converted and what God told Abraham came to be, and the mystery was revealed and confirming to the house of Israel stopped. The branch was broken off so we may be grafted in.

Genesis 18:18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?

Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

God bless,

RLW

THE KINGDOM OF GOD

May CHRIST IS US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Luke 17:21 ....Behold, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.

Matthew 12:28 But if I (Christ) cast out DEVILS by the SPIRIT OF GOD, then the kingdom of God has come unto you.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was CAST OUT ....

Revelation 11:15 ...The kingdoms of this world (Satan in us) are become the kingdoms of God (CHRIST IN US), and his Christ; and he shall reign (IN US) for ever and ever.

Colossians 1:27 ...This mystery...CHRIST IN YOU...

GARDEN OF GOD

Song of Solomon 5:1 I (Christ) am come unto my GARDEN...

Isaiah 58:11 ...and thou shall be like a watered GARDEN....

Isaiah 61:11 ...and as the GARDEN causeth the things that are sown it to spring forth; so the Lord WILL CAUSE righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.

Ezekiel 36:35 And they shall say, This land (kingdom of God) that was DESOLATE is become like the GARDEN OF EDEN ...

Genesis 2:9 ...And the TREE OF LIFE also in the midst of the GARDEN, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Isaiah 51:3 For the Lord shall comfort Zion (His chosen): he will comfort all her waste places: and he WILL MAKE her wilderness like EDEN, and her deserts like the GARDEN OF THE LORD: joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

Genesis 3:8 ..the Lord God walking in the GARDEN..

Ezekiel 31:8 The cedars in the GARDEN OF GOD could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his branches: nor any tree in the GARDEN OF GOD were like unto him (Christ) in his beauty.

WE ARE THE GARDEN OF GOD....CHRIST IN US...

Earl, I was very much inspired and rejoiced at your comment in this thread. Praise God for that truth ..... Thank you!

What an amazing revelation: in Christ, I receive everything from the hand of God.... nothing from the hand of man.... This is freedom.

Hi Brother Earl.

I believe you gave us a view of the trinity. Gen. 1:1.In the beginning "El-o-heem'" created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:2.And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the "SPIRIT OF GOD moved upon the face of the waters.

Gen 1:3. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Now I'm not sure if you're saying Jesus was created in verse 3 or not but we are sure it's not so according to these verses.

( ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made.)

In him was life; AND THE "LIFE WAS THE LIGHT OF MEN."

Colossians 1:16-17. For by him were all things created, that are in HEAVEN, and that are in earth, VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE, whether they be THROWNS, or DOMINIONS, or PRINCIPALITIES, or POWERS: (all things were created by him, and for him:)

And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

"Point here is we see Angels created here as well!!

And in Job 38:4-7. The Angels shouted for joy when Jesus created the Earth.

"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

John 17:5. And now, O Father, glorify thou me WITH THINE OWN SELF with the glory which I had with thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

Now we know he didn't come in the 4th Day!

Gen 1:16. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. THE SUN. "Also created!" You see a contrast of that light and the light of Jesus in

Revelation 21:23. and Revelation 22:5.

Revelation 3:14. Means in the sense Jesus is the origin and source of Gods creation. Colossians 1:15-18. and head of the new creation. 2 Corinthians 5:17.

God bles

Are we supposed to evangelise, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

One of the HARDEST TRUTHS to understand is that when you are BORN AGAIN by the word of God you ALSO DIED (the first death, which is not literal death) by the word of God.

The verse being quoted below is not LITERAL; it has to be spiritually discerned:

Revelation 13:10 He that (evangelises and) leadeth (others) into captivity will go into captivity: he that (evangelises and) killeth with the sword (the word of God) must be killed with the sword (the word of God). Here is the patience and faith of the saints.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, By THE WORD OF GOD, which liveth and abideth forever.

If you have died (by the sword or word of God) in Christ you now live in Christ (the word); then:

Philippians 2:13 It is God that worketh in you BOTH TO WILL and TO DO of his good pleasure.

REST IN THE LORD; whatever he wants you to do, YOU WILL DO through HIS POWER and FOREKNOWLEDGE.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES, and ye shall keep my judgements and DO THEM.

Colossians 1:27 ...This mystery....CHRIST IN YOU ....

The word of God will not return void . If only 1 is persuaded then all is not lost . :)

Hi Bob , have you ever heard the saying "banging your head against a brick wall " I tried for a while but gave up quite quickly , people will believe what they want to believe , there are a few of us on here who know what you are talking about but we learned to keep our mouths shut , after all the majority is usually in the right are they not ?