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GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD

Mark 1:14-15 Now after John was put into prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the GOSPEL of the kingdom of God.

(vs 15) And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye and believe the GOSPEL.

Repentance is not the GOSPEL.

Psalms 52:1 Why BOASTEST thou thyself in mischief, O mighty man; the goodness of God endureth continually.

Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his GOODNESS and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the GOODNESS of GOD leads to repentance.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, Lo there! behold, the kingdom of God is WITHIN you.

THIS IS THE GOSPEL!

Colossians 1:27 ..... which is CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory.

You are baptised (not by physical water; but with living water) INTO CHRIST!

The baptism of the Holy Spirit and fire Matthew 3:11

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

CHRIST IN YOU

Colossians 1:25-29 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is GIVEN TO ME FOR YOU, to fulfil the word of God;

(vs 26) Even the MYSTERY which hath been HID from the ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

(vs 27) To whom (the saints) God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this MYSTERY among the gentiles; which is CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory:

(vs 28) Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

(vs 29) Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his (CHRIST IN YOU) working, which (CHRIST IN YOU) worketh in me mightly.

Revelation 2:26-27 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my (CHRIST IN YOU) works unto the end, to him will I give him power over the nations:

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when ALL (creation) thing shall be subdued unto him (CHRIST), then shall the SON also himself be subject to him (FATHER) that put All (creation) things under him, that God (CHRIST) may be ALL (CHRIST IN YOU) in ALL (CHRIST IN YOU).

Romans 8:19-21 For the earnest expectation of the creature (creation) waiteth for the MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS OF GOD.

(vs 21) Because the creature (creation) itself shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption (the grave) into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Psalms 122:5 For there are set thrones of judgement, the thrones of the house of David.

Revelation 20:4 And I say thrones, and they that sat upon them, and judgement was given unto them.....

Luke 22:30 That you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and set on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

CHRIST IN YOU THE HOPE OF GLORY

Lost in Adam and restored in Christ Jesus

Revelation 10:7

1 Thessalonians 4:16

1 Corinthians 15:44

Matthew 24:31

1 Thessalonians 4:17

1 Corinthians 15:32

Philippians 3:21

1 John 3:2

Matthew 13:43

Daniel 12:3

Revelation 21:4, 5

Colossians 1:20

John 10

Matthew 22:10

Matthew 25:34

Isaiah 65:17-19

2 Peter 3:13

1 Corinthians 2:9

Matthew 21:15

Psalm 8:3

Isaiah 65 19-25

Revelation 7:16-17

so much more...

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I think the most pertinent portion of Scripture on this matter, is found in 2 Corinthians 5:17-20. Others are: Colossians 1:20-22; Romans 5:10.

I see that you understand its meaning, by what you've written. And that is, through the offering up & sacrifice of His Son, God no longer charges us with our past sins, but has accepted us in through the merits of Christ alone. And the enmity that existed between us, is now gone, having been taken away, thereby bringing our hearts & spirits into a real & vital relationship with the Father. So we can joyfully say, that we have been reconciled to God through His Son, having those sins that condemned us, taken away so that God may now accept us by the peace that the Cross brings to both God & man. So one of the fruits of the Gospel, would be the reconciling of the sinner to a Holy God.

About you saying that the bible says not to worship Jesus... uhm Jesus Christ is God.

He says in John 14:1 (KJV)

" John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me."

Another scripture

Hebrews 1:1-6

"[1] God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, [2] Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; [3] Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; [4] Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. [5] For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? [6] And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. "

Colossians 1:15-20 (KJV)

"[15] Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: [16] For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: [17] And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. [18] And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. [19] For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; [20] And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven."

Trying to have a blind faith isn't good, what we really have to do is to search the scriptures (study it !).

In Genesis 1:26, we see the plurality of God in that great creative work of mankind. We know that Jesus was also involved in creation ( Colossians 1:15,16) & that mankind was to bear the image of the Deity. When Jesus took on humanity, that 'exterior' image faded but the full Image & Being of the Godhead was not diminished.

In Genesis 1:27, we read that "God created man in his OWN Image", which I don't see as presenting any problem as it's still the self-same God in His Triunity that created man to bear His Image.

Then in Genesis 3:22 we read, "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of US, to know good and evil". Here again, God brings in the Fullness of His Being, as created man stepped outside of God's Will & now able to discern between good & evil, & has further taken on another aspect of God. Man lost his innocence by his sinning against God.

The above verses reveal to us the triunity of God, but when we get to Genesis 11:7, we read: "Let US go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." We can't be sure who went with God to do this work: was it Jesus as God's Word, or the angels or some Beings of Heaven, we don't know. Since it didn't involve the creation of someone or something to bear His Image, we could understand that others were involved at the Tower of Babel.

The 'worlds' are the 'worlds of the Universe', i.e. the planets, stars, asteroids, etc. And Jesus was involved in their creation (also see Colossians 1:15-17).

Rick, I believe that the early Church had elevated Jesus Christ to the "level of God". We might not see it in their writings as the Bible doesn't reveal what the Church actually preached to Christians, but shows us what the apostles taught them or on what issues they were taken to task over. So assuming that what the apostles believed & taught through their epistles, we have many Scriptures that confirm that the Godhead includes Jesus His Son.

Some of them are: 1 Corinthians 8:6; Colossians 1:15-17; Colossians 2:9; 1 John 5:7; Philippians 2:5-8.

But if you're referring to the early Church after the close of the apostolic era, then I can send you some quotes from the likes of Ignatius, Polycarp, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, etc. So this teaching on the Trinity is not something recent as we are led to believe or from the RCC, but the firm belief of the apostles, of the apostolic Church & the Church in the 3rd Century onwards. You may believe that Jesus was perfect in every way securing our salvation through a perfect Sacrifice, but if He wasn't God in the flesh, then our salvation remains on shaky ground: it had to be God Who gave up His Life for us in demonstration of that pure Divine Love - the provision of any other 'perfect Sacrifice', whether human or animal by God is no demonstration of Divine Love - only of a Divine Provision which could necessitate the need for further sacrifices (as was done in the OT). Jesus was the one & only Sacrifice that could fix man's inherent problem - if He failed, there would remain no other sacrifice available for God to give us.

Thanks Rick. Of course, I understand that certain 'English' words needed to be used to closely interpret the original language & at times there would be limitations to its intended meaning simply because of the nature of languages. But I believe that we do have as best a translation as possible that can be totally relied upon & with ample supporting Scriptures throughout which we can use to cross-reference to learn the meaning.

But if you sense that words have been added or subtracted from the Bible to suit someone's whims & fancies, then we fall into the same trap as our Islamic accusers who believe that the Bible has been altered using the same accusation of addition & subtraction. When I ask proof from them, all they have is to compare it to the Quran & have no idea what biblical Scriptures have been changed or when the changes occurred.

I realize that you're not suggesting that, but that in a lesser way you suggest that there are word usages in the Bible that may not be in the original. Then again, the request has to be declared, 'Where are the changes in the Bible & how have they affected the Truth shared or our understanding of them?' I've re-looked at my references ( Colossians 1:16,17 & John 1:1-3, if these are the ones in your focus), & stand by in my understanding as given in the Word. What I would however like to read from someone, is that some other Scripture(s) has been found that should alter my understanding, to which I would be compelled to give due consideration. But thus far, with all my efforts (bar Robert Malit latterly), none have come forward. Disappointing.

Hi Cris, here is my reply

Answer to your questions, back up with biblical proofs:

Colossians 1:16 - 17 16For by him (JESUS) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him (JESUS), and for him (JESUS): 17And he (JESUS) is before all things, and by him (JESUS) all things consist.

1 John 1:3 Context 1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life (JESUS); 2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) 3That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

Mark 16:19 19So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Luke 22:69 68And if I also ask you, ye will not answer me, nor let me go. 69Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

Acts 7:56 56And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Romans 8:34 34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Hebrews 10:12 12But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

1 Peter 3:22 22Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

Perspective Helps Us Understand God

Old Testament = God is a Spirit, invisible to the naked eye. Attributes are: Omnipotent - all powerful, can do anything nothing is impossible; omnipresent - is everywhere;

So I think I understand you: that God was alone in Heaven in eternity & it was Him & the cherubim that were involved in the creative work. And then when it came time for Jesus' appearance, you said "God manifested as a man name Jesus in New Testament; God as the Holy Spirit in Resurrection - all of these titles only belongs to Jesus."

So to the first point & to my first response to you on this matter: how do you understand Colossians 1:16,17 & John 1:1-3 & following verses?

To your second point: if God is now manifested as Jesus, & I assume you say that there is presently no God in Heaven except Jesus Who now God, then what do you make of Mark 16:19, Luke 22:69, Acts 7:56, Romans 8:34, Hebrews 10:12, 1 Peter 3:22, & others. I'm confused.

I suppose the Trinity issue doesn't come up until these points are dealt with first. Thank you.

Robert. Just to clarify: Genesis 1:26a, "And God said, Let US make man in our image, after our likeness". With your added reference to Ezekiel 10:19, I gather you're stating that it wasn't Jesus (the Word) in "us", but God is speaking of the cherubim. So God used these heavenly beings to assist in the creation of mankind. Interesting.

What would you do with Colossians 1:16,17: "For by him (Jesus is spoken of here as we see before & after these verses) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." How does this fit in with the cherub activity in creation?

John 1:1-3. I don't understand your point. What are the changes in the Bible versions (NKJV & ESV) you see? Is it the use of the words, "by" & "through", as in "All things were made by Him, or through Him". I can see the difference in meaning, but the intent is the same: that it was the Word of God that participated in creation with God (whether the creating work was from the Word or through the Word) and this Word was subsequently made human & His Glory was seen, as One come out of God (v 14). I await your clarification.

I love the Lord. He change my life and I'm grateful.

The answer to your question is there in Genesis 1:3: "And God SAID". Out of God, came forth His WORD in speech, to create Light. The question is: how does this WORD fit into the Being of God? Is the WORD a part of God as His Spirit is? Or do you see some differentiation? I see that God, His Word & His Spirit are infused as One, indivisible & completely of Spirit Being (not of flesh). Therefore, if that Word, which was from the beginning, with God & was God ( Jn 1:1), was specially sent to this World clothed with flesh to bring God's Word to His people & ultimately to lay down His Life for them & us, then Who are we speaking about?

So to specifically answer your question: "Who spoke it God or Jesus?" It was God through Jesus, the pre-incarnate Word of God - the Word uttered by God. Then when Jesus, God's Word, came to this Earth, God no longer spoke to His people as He did before, but now "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he MADE the worlds" ( Hebrews 1:2). Made the worlds? Yes, His Word that was uttered in Genesis 1 was engaged in God's creative Work ( Colossians 1:15-17).

And No, this is not RCC doctrine - we hold fully to the Bible, to apostolic teaching & the beliefs held by the early Church.

Suzanne, May the Spirit grace you with his understanding of his words:

Do Gods creatures have FREE WILL; or, are we the WORKS of the creator?

Ephesians 1:11 In whom (Spirit) also we have obtained (by grace) an inheritance (children), being predestinated (you have not chosen me, but I have chosen you. John 15:16) according to the purpose of him (Spirit) who WORKETH all things after the counsel of HIS OWN WILL:

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Spirit) which WORKETH in you both to WILL and to DO of his good pleasure.



Colossians 1:29 Whereunto, I (Paul) also labour, striving according to his (Spirit) WORKING, which WORKETH in me mightily.

Isaiah 26:12 Lord, thou (Spirit) wilt ordain peace for us: for thou (Spirit) also hast wrought (WORKED) all our WORKS in us.

Isaiah 44:26 ......that PERFORMETH the counsel of his (Spirit) messengers....

Psalm 57:2 I will cry unto God most high that PERFORMETH all things for me.

Proverbs 16: 33 The lot is cast into the lap (we were predestined); but the whole disposing (WORK) thereof is of the Lord (Spirit)

Proverbs 21:1 The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord (Spirit), as the rivers of water: he (Spirit) TURNETH it (man's heart) whithersoever he (Spirit) WILL.

Job 12:9 Who (man) knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord (Spirit) hath wrought (WORKED) this?

Job 23:14 For he (Spirit) PERFORMETH the things that is appointed (predestined) for me....

Job 23:10 But he (Spirit) knoweth the way that I take: when he (Spirit) has tried me, I shall come forth as pure gold.

Hebrews 4:3 For we which believed do enter into rest.....the WORKS (we are the works of the Spirit) were finished before the foundation of the world.

Hebrews 4:11 Let us (works of the Spirit) labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of UNBELIEF.

May the Spirit grace you with his wisdom.

This stipulation pertains to the priests in Aaron's line. In order to approach unto the Holy God, without offense, on behalf of their people, they must be as perfect as humanly possible. This models Jesus Christ, our Great High Priest:

For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; ( Hebrews 7:26)

Believers in Jesus Christ, by grace through faith, are encouraged to approach unto God regardless our many personal shortcomings.

Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. ( Hebrews 4:16)

To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. ( Ephesians 1:6)

And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: ( Colossians 1:21-22)

I actually took the time to listen to that lengthy teaching on the Pre-Trib Rapture deception. He spoke very well & covered a lot of ground, but failed to be more explicit in certain areas that the pre-tribbers would also hold to.

a. The Great Tribulation is a special event in history when it is God's Wrath that is poured upon the world of unbelievers. The tribulations that come to us, whether coping with life's demands & challenges or going through various intensities of persecution & to the laying down our lives for the Lord, are not part of God's Wrath, but what comes to us living in a fallen corrupt world ruled by the prince of this World. And on this aspect the YT speaker dwells on. One would need to look at the fact that a believer who has already been freed from the God's condemnation through Christ, would he then have to face His Wrath for his & the world's 'wickedness'?

b. 1 Corinthians 15:51,52 which ties in with 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is taken as a separate event to the Day of the Lord not because of the specific events of the dead rising along with the saints to be with the Lord forever, but also what Paul was saying was a Mystery: something unknown or veiled beforehand, being revealed now. Just as the mystery of the Church ( Romans 11:25, Ephesians 5:32, 6:19, Colossians 1:27), so the mystery of the catching away that was not unknown before. The speaker never referred to this important point.

c. The escape of Lot & his family or of Noah & his from the pouring out of God's Wrath was not dealt particularly well by him. He emphasized that they escaped but the unbelievers were destroyed whereas in the Gt. Tribulation, it would not be so, therefore the analogy failed. However, I think that the emphasis is seen to be on the fact that God took out the righteous from the scene of His outpouring Anger.

These being a few of my observations from his talk, & though quite comprehensive & he being well studied, I remain unconvinced from his presentation.

Alex, Again you err. "our old adamic nature has to be destroyed with that baptism of fire" - Not so. Our reconcilliation is, " in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblamable and unreprovable in his sight." Colossians 1:21&22

Just to be theological & maybe, a little pedantic, though we often read of Christ being in us ( Colossians 1:27), the reality is that Christ, as God Who is also Man, is presently seated at the right hand of the Father ( Luke 22:69, Colossians 3:1). So when it is said that Christ is in us, we actually mean that He is there by His Spirit ( Romans 8:9-11; 1 Corinthians 3:16). While it's not wrong to say that Christ lives in us, the correct understanding of this is that Christ is there by His Spirit in all who have been born again by Him.

I must commend you for ending your prayer in the Name of Jesus. As you well know, Jesus is the Name of the Savior. Colossians 3:17 says"And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him." So by praying in the Name of Jesus, you are praying to God. Salvation came only by Jesus ( Acts 4:12; Matthew 1:21; John 17:6; Luke 3:31; John 1:14) So when you pray in the name of Jesus, you are praying to God. All of the fullness of God is in Jesus( Colossians 1:19). We are saved through Jesus--He died on the Cross and provided the means of escape for the whole world. The demons tremble at the name of Jesus( James 2:19) Again, I commend you for praying in Jesus' Name and ending your prayer in Jesus' Name. There is no other name given to us whereby we must be saved. Jesus even said that repentance and remission of sins would be preached in His name ( Luke 24:47). It is through His name that we are baptized ( Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8; Acts 2:38; Acts 3: 19) I am so grateful to find believers who still hold to the Bible. God bless you and may God keep you is my prayer. I hope I provided some insight into Name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

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Deuteronomy 6:4, "The LORD our God is one LORD". This is God's declaration & also believed by Jews, Christians & Muslims. There is no multiplicity of gods that sit on God's Throne. Yet, when God says, "Let us make man in our image...", we find a revelation about this Nature of God. God has accomplished all His creative work by His spoken Word ( Psalm 33:6, Genesis chapter 1 "And God said..") & in the Power of His Spirit. ( Psalm 104:30, Job 33:4). And this Word was made flesh, Jesus, for the sake of mankind's redemption ( John 1:1-14) & was also involved in creation in the beginning ( Colossians 1:13-19).

Those are a few Scriptures to show that God, Who is One, has sent out His Word & His Spirit to accomplish His Plans. So when we read, "God said, Let US make man in our Own Image", this plurality which you've observed, is God in His Fullness involved in man's creation as also in creating the heavens & earth. Man, (interpreted as Adam), was first created. And "them" would be his wife, Eve, & all his progeny after them that would "have dominion over the earth & its creatures".

Man was "created in God's Image". God is Spirit & no man has seen God at any time - he cannot be described in physically terms. But what we do see is not the physical Image of God, but the part of God He desired that man would also have & benefit from. So looking at God's Character, we see that He is first Holy ( Leviticus 11:44), His Spirit communes with man's spirit, He has the power of Love, of Choice, of Fellowship, of Righteousness (pure & holy living), of expressing Emotions, etc. That describes God & His attributes that Adam also enjoyed, but after Adam chose to disobey God & sin entered into him, sin subsequently marred his physical, mental & spiritual aspects. And this marring, or corruption, fell upon all mankind, i.e. we've inherited this sin nature ( Romans 3:23), & our own lives show us daily how far short we have fallen from that ideal & how far our sins have separated us from God.

Anyone in Christ ought to capitalize on grace, it's sad not to hear the church talk on grace yet the epistles on all their salutations made reference to grace.As the church we need to wake up and follow this trajectory of grace, there is something the Apostles knew on grace the modern church doesn't know.

To Raina 10yrs ago Jesus loves everyone sin or no sin

But He hates our Sins:::::we as Christians should pray for Everyone.....yes even the one that just stab u in the back

Praying helps us to Strength our faith N our Christian walk n the more we pray is the closer we will get to theFather through The Son Jesus Christ::::for give n you shall be forgiven says The word of God

Bottom line never stop praying. The more prayers We send up the more Blessings will come down

Keep praying n seeking Friends.....Be Blessed

In this instance the word "beginning " can be defined as "that by which anything begins to be, the origin, the active cause" as proclaimed in Colossians 1:17, "And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."

Are yoU saying that this is why the world an people are so messed up,,, an don't know which way to turn ,,,,,Say a five year old little girl already dealing with thinking she should be a boy so much so she wants a boys haircut an feels happy that way.. this world is a mess ,

Perhaps I'm way off point but this is troubling.

Rob, I'm not sure which version of the Bible you use but have a read of John 10:32-38 again, just to clarify what blasphemy is & what Jesus was accused of being.

And when you get to verse 36, consider, "of whom (Jesus) the Father hath sanctified & SENT into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?" So, if one needs to be a stickler on the definition of Son of God as being a Son from birth only & not 'out of God's Being', another can then correctly say that Jesus was SENT into the world; why should Jesus use the word 'sent' as if He came from somewhere to go somewhere? Wouldn't it be more correct then to say, 'The Father hath specially created me to be born at Bethlehem & gave me a special ministry & finally to given my life for the world'?

And while we're examining the Scriptures, what about John 8:56-58? Abraham rejoicing to see "his day"! Are you so mad to say that you've seen Abraham? the Jews retorted. "Even before Abraham existed, I AM". Again, notice Jesus' choice of words to describe Himself.

And Colossians 1:15-17? "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him". That whole passage cited, is speaking of Jesus, not God.

Do even these few portions of Scripture cause us to think that we have here, Someone Who is more than a separate creation born into the world to fulfil God's Plans. Someone who was involved in the creation of all things, visible & invisible, One existing before Abraham & One even sent by God from somewhere to somewhere (the World)? I know that you are well aware of these Scriptures, but I remain perplexed as to how some other interpretation can be given other than understood as read.

Good day my brothers and sisters.

Rob,

You seem to not want to believe that Christ existed before he was born in Bethlehem. Which is all through the Bible. He is the Son of God. With many other names too. Can you explain some of these verses with your interpretations?

Ephesians 3:9 - And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Colossians 1:13-20

Hebrews 1:1-2- God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

John 3:12- If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? (Jesus knowing about things of Heaven, if His Spirit had not been there before?)

John 6:38-39- For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

Revelations 19:13- And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

In Revelations God says he is the Alpha and Omega. Also Jesus Christ says He is the Alpha and Omega.

There's more also. If you can't believe things in the Holy Scriptures. Ok, I don't look down on anyone. But please don't say we're making these things up or have a false view. It's not that hard to see. Especially with the Holy Ghost.

God Bless everyone. Have a wonderful day!

Ephesians 3:9

Colossians 1:12-20

Hebrews 1:1-2

Jesus Christ is Lord. God Bless us everyone!

Genesis 1:2, 3: "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."

In these verses, we already see the Triune God at work. 1. We have God the Creator & Sustainer of all things. 2. We also see His Spirit "moving upon the face of the waters": that part of the Godhead that went out to do a work (we are not told). 3. Then we have God speak for the creation of light: "And God said..". This is His Word that is part of Who God is. Thus we see God, as He has revealed Himself to us, as a Triune God, and if any part of that divinity was missing, He would cease to be God.

You are a trinity: a body, a soul & a spirit. If one part of your trinity was missing, you would either cease to be human, or maybe a sub-human.

God chose to send out His Word to His people Israel: "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high" ( Hebrews 1:1-3).

Did you catch it? God sent out His Word to Israel, then sent out His Word to us through His Son (Who also shared in His Glory, in His Image & involved in the creative Work (also see Colossians 1:15-17)). This Word was made flesh for our sakes, He gave us God's Message & then laid down His Life for us. This is God's Word declared to you - if you choose to believe what you do, then you have to deny the Truth of His Word & make your appeal to some other source.