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You have a priest and that priest LIVES IN YOU and he will CAUSE you to understand his words if you never cease ASKING him. You have to read and study, and the more you READ and STUDY and ASK and BELIEVE, the more he will reveal to you.
1 John 2:27 But the anointing you which you have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teach you all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, you shall abide in him.
Colossians 1:27 .... this mystery.... CHRIST IN YOU .......
GBU
However, I couldn't place which verse(s) you were referring to. Both Romans 3:4 & Galatians 2:20, do not reveal what you suggest. Unless you were thinking of Galatians 3:26; Colossians 1:4; Colossians 2:5; & there may be more. I doubt if the apostle intended to infer that this was a faith generated by one towards attaining Christ, rather that the Gift being given & now existing in the believer, from which comes his varied expressions of that faith.
I though God was the ONLY source of every thing.
Colossians 1:16 For by him were ALL THINGS created, that are in heaven and that are in earth, visible and INVISIBLE. whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or POWERS: all things were created by him, and FOR HIM.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but against principalities. against POWERS, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
All these things we fight against in Ephesians 6:12 are the same things that he created for HIMSELF in Colossians 1:16
2 Thessalonians 2:8 Then shall that Wicked be revealed.....
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him (that wicked), whose coming is after the working of SATAN with all POWERS and signs of lying wonders,
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness IN THEM that perish; because THEY received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 FOR THIS CAUSE shall GOD shall send them strong delusion that they should BELIEVE A LIE.
Man says this verse is talking about that ONE ANTI CHRIST, but verse 10 SAYS THEM AND THEY. That's more than one.
Ephesians 2:2 Where in time past ye also walked according to the course of this world (FLESH), according to the prince (Satan)of the POWER of the air ( 2 Thessalonians 2:9), the SPIRIT that now worketh in the children of disobedience (Satan).
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall CONSUME with the spirit of his mouth (the WORD) and the brightness (the LIGHT) of his coming ( Hebrews 9:28).
GBU
Man makes CHOICES thousands or time a day; but those CHOICES have a CAUSE:
Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh in you TO WILL and TO DO ....
They is never an effect without there first being a CAUSE.
God is sovereign and the CAUSE of everything.
Romans 2:4 Man repents be CAUSE of the goodness of God
Philippians 1:29 You BELIEVE be CAUSE Christ CAUSES you to believe.
Galatians 1:20 You have faith be CAUSE Christ GIVES you HIS faith.
John 6:44 No one comes to Christ with a CAUSE, the Father draws that person to Christ.
God CAUSES and DOES everything, man is the benefactor of CAUSES of GOD.
Colossians 1:17 ...and by him all thing consist.... even you CHOICES.
John 15:5 ...you can of yourself DO NOTHING...
Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a son, yet he learned obedience by the things which he SUFFERED.
We bear the same cross and walk the same path to Calvary.
1 Corinthians 15:31 ...We DIE daily..
Romans 6:6 ...our old man was crucified with him .....
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nonetheless I LIVE, yet not I, but Christ LIVETH IN ME: and the life I now live IN THE FLESH I live by the FAITH OF THE SON OF GOD, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery ...CHRIST IN US .....
GBU
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible (seed), BY THE WORD OF GOD, which liveth and abideth forever.
By reading and speaking God's word, these words began to overcome you, and you began to become ONE with these words, UNTIL:
John 17:21 That they all may be ONE; as thou, Father art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
John 17:22 And the glory thou hast given me, I HAVE GIVEN THEM, that they may be ONE, even as we are ONE:
John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they maybe made PERFECT IN ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou has given me, BE WITH ME WHERE I AM; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast give me: for thou lovest me before the foundation of the world.
Christ is IN HIS CREATION ( Colossians 1:27) bring them to the Father, when you depart this flesh YOU are going to be with Christ in HIS CREATION, bringing HIS CREATION to TRUTH ( Revelation 10:11).
Matthew 25:31-46
Proverbs 3:1-35
Isaiah 58:1-14
Jude 1:1-25
I have drawn comfort from these scriptures. Jude 1:24-25, 1 Jude 1:21,
Nahum 1:7 also in context is the bigger picture
Luke 12:32 Luke 12:1-59
1 Colossians 1:10-23
Philippians 1:6
I hope these scriptures give you a bigger picture that the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY is showing us & are encouraging to you. Many more I wanted to share but deleted & held back to not overwhelm with too much reading all at once.
Are not the BORN AGAIN to never see death?
Matthew 16:28 ....There be some standing here, which shall no taste of death, .....
John 5:24 ....but is passed from death unto life.
John 8:51 ....he shall never see death.
In the twinkling of an eye DEATH is swallowed up in VICTORY
Colossians 1:13 ....And hath TRANSLATED US into the kingdom of his dear Son:
"Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when That Which Is Perfect Is Come, then that which is in part shall be done away."
IF "The Scriptures Are PERFECT, And, Since They Have Already Come," Then the "gift" of tongues has ceased. Do some believe in IMperfect Scriptures, so tongues have Not ceased? IF so, then how do they "know The PERFECT Truth Of God," calling it IMperfect? What Saith The HOLY Scriptures?:
1) Paul "Completed or Filled Up" The Scriptures With Romans Through Philemon, Which Show us God's 'Program' Of Pure GRACE In HIS "Revelation Of The MYSTERY" For Today's "Dispensation Of God, 'Full-Filling' God's Word Of Truth!" Colossians 1:25
2) God HIMSELF Considers HIS Word PERFECT, Else Why Would HE "Do The Following"?:
"I will worship toward THY holy temple, and praise THY Name for THY Lovingkindness and for THY Truth: for THOU Hast 'Magnified' Thy WORD Above All THY {Perfect!} Name!" Psalms 138:2 cp Psalms 12:6-7 "God's Pure And Preserved Word," Correct?
3) Since God Does Not have these three "gifts of prophecy, tongues, and word of knowledge" in effect, today, What Does HE "have In Effect"? What Saith The Scriptures?:
"And NOW Abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but The Greatest of these is Charity!" 1 Corinthians 13:13 PERFECT Truth, Correct, Precious friends?
Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!
2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship [Romans - Philemon], For ALL "to SEE," today, since "that which is in part has been done away" ( 1Co 13:10 )?
God's 'Simple' Will: Link
1 Samuel 24:4,5,6 , 1 Samuel 24:10,
Saul also ripped Samuel's garment 1 Samuel 15:27 however 1 Samuel 15:28-29. Even after remorseful repentance 1 Samuel 15:29,30,35
Do think the significance of the clothing was a factor? 1 Samuel 2:19, His mother's sacrifice 1 Samuel 1:28
Saul pursued David to kill him: 1 Samuel 19:1,10,11,15,
& Saul ordered the prophets of GOD killed, possibly unarmed, their families, livestock & nursing babies included.; 1 Samuel 22:17,18,19 Same Saul that left the enemy King & livestock alive in disobedience to GOD's orders. 1 Samuel 15:1,2,3,8,9,
Psalms 105:15
David's mercy 2 Samuel 9:3-7,
David's sin & judgement: 2 Samuel 12:7,9,11,12,14,18, 2 Samuel 13:1,6,7,8,12,13,14,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,28,29,30,31,32, after years 2 Samuel 14:25,30,31,32, 2 Samuel 15:6,10,12,13,14,16,23,30,31, 2 Samuel 16:3,5,6,7,8,11,13,22, 2 Samuel 17:21,23,29, 2 Samuel 18:5,7,9,10,12,14,15,17,20,27,32,33, 2 Samuel 19:1-4, "the sword did not depart from his house" etc. There were more scriptures about his consequences _.
Queen Vashti, consequence Ester 1:19, Ester 2:4
Saul then 1 Samuel 28:3,7,18,19
David has Psalms of remorseful repentance, gives glory to GOD ALMIGHTY, shows mercy & humility at times. With Saul he shows remorse but didn't read much of repentance, etc.
However the Bible says: 1 Colossians 1:20,
Job 12:16
Hopefully these are helpful in your study.
You wrote of "In the beginning". Of course, this strongly suggests that there was a beginning, or commencement to this Word, yet we know & accept that God Himself had no beginning (in time). From eternity to eternity He will ever be God. If then God is eternal & His Word & Spirit must always co-exist within Him & with Him, we can then only question the meaning of "In the beginning". So, it's always been natural to interpret that to mean 'From eternity' because of God's Nature, but as you suggest, it's beyond us, how else could we interpret this phrase & still make it fit Who God is?
As much as I understand that you don't deny Christ's divinity, there is still the belief that divinity came upon Him at some other point: whether in His Birth, Life or ministry. So, even though we cannot be clear to "In the beginning", we can be clear that God's Word, immaterial, yet in God's Essence, emanated from Him, God choosing that Word to be made flesh. He could have chosen His Spirit to take on humanity instead, but that thought would lead us nowhere. Whereas, the Scriptures that have been cited in other posts, give us clear evidence that Jesus understood His Presence with God, having been graced with God's Glory pre-creation ( John 17:5). And in Colossians 1:16 which you quoted: He was not only in the beginning of creation, but as the verse tells us, He was the Creator (I can only understand this as the Creator God & His Word were joint Authors of all creation).
All these show us Christ's Divinity before His coming in Humanity. That He was the Son of God by virtue of His Birth & not by His pre-existence. And indeed, the demons called Him the Son of God, because that's Who He was & to Whom they were addressing. The point is, does a reference to Jesus' Sonship negate His Deity & intrinsic connection to the Father in eternity? Thank you again & may His blessings be yours always.
People SAY God is SOVEREIGN, but they don't BELIEVE IT.
They say the beast in Revelation is stronger than God, and will defeat God, and that most of mankind will go to HELL.
Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created ......all things were created by him, and FOR HIM. Including SATAN.
This says the BEAST (the sea of HUMANITY) was given a mark by Christ; the ability to buy and sell, and this (ability) is the MARK of (a man) MANKIND. This buy and selling, the works of man's hand; becomes an IDOIL.
More important to man than the kingdom of God.
Romans 8:20 For the creature (the sea of humanity) was made SUBJECT TO VANITY, NOT WILLINGLY ......
Brother Chris,
The second question, first I do not believe anyone can deny the divinity of Jesus or His pre-existence of everything. ( Colossians 1:16) He was the beginning of creation and through Him, everything that is was created. The Son of God was with, from, and was the word of God.
I feel our mind with the preconceived ideas over the years, plugs our ears and blinds our eyes. It is like the word beginning when we see or hear the word beginning eternity pops in our head. It is like ( John 1:1-2). God has no beginning so, what is this beginning in John 1?
Scripture tells us God is from everlasting to everlasting, it tells us Jesus is the only begotten Son, the beginning of creation, but scripture does not tell us when or how he was begotten other than it was before creation and when He came in the flesh. Jesus is of God, and from God, the Son of God even the demons knew who He was and did not call Him God, ( Matthew 8:28) ( Mark 5:7) ( Luke 8:28).
In John 1, John is writing this after Jesus had ascended, in the beginning, is when the Messiah/Jesus first came, the beginning of His ministry, He was the word of God, the Word was God because it was from God, in Him was life and the light of men. John the Baptist was sent to be a witness of this light who was Jesus, and this light cometh to all in the world. It "shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not". As then the same today.
Jesus now was in the world that He made and they did not know him, He went to his own/Israel and they rejected Him. But as many that received Him became sons of God born again into the kingdom of God not of the will of the flesh but of the Father.
The word of God was made flesh, in scripture everything Jesus said or did was told to Him by God, ( John 5:30) Jesus was the word of God. In ( 1John 1:1-7) John's opening is similar to his opening in John 1, he is confirming John 1.
I hope this makes sense?
God bless,
RLW
Colossians 1:15-17: "Who (i.e. Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."
Jesus is the "firstborn of every creature" both in rank & birth. The matter of His Birth concerns us here. The word for 'firstborn' in Greek is 'prototokos' = first to give birth to. Unlike, some translators, applying the word 'protokitises' = first created. Jesus was never a created Being - He proceeded from the Father & made flesh for mankind's benefit. Both in His part in the Godhead & in His humanity, He was the "firstborn", for it was only through Him that all things in the heavens & Earth were created & are held together. To use the word 'created' for Jesus' Birth is a misnomer & fallacy, because He was never a created Being.
Then we come to: "that body can hold the PRESENCE of God". Jesus may have laid aside His Glory, even given lower rank than that of angels, for the "suffering of death" ( Hebrews 2:7; Philippians 2:7,8), but He never lost His Divinity & union to the Father. It is a misconception that in His Humanity, Jesus ceased to be Divine. If that were the case, we have a Saviour that became unqualified to pay such a ransom, & you suggest, took on a Body of sinful flesh (i.e. making Him a sinner). Rather, He took on the flesh (body) of man (as was Adam's, pre-fall), bearing upon His Body (carrying) our sins, that He might continue to be Holy & spotless, being the accepted Redeemer for our sins. Sin never entered Him & He never lost His Divinity even while on Earth.
You will never understand the Word of God without putting ALL the Words of God together. And even then the Holy Spirit has to explain it to you.
Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little:
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue (the Holy Spirit) will SPEAK TO HIS PEOPLE.
It takes LOTS OF TIME and STUDY to even begin to understand. Most people just believe what other people tell them.
Revelation is a book that has been SIGNIFIED ( Revelation 1:1) meaning the word (such as heaven) represents something other than its meaning as given in a dictionary.
Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven ....Now we know heaven represents something other than its definition in a dictionary. It takes other verses to Know what it represents.
Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven ...
Matthew 12:28 But if I CAST OUT DEVILS by the SPIRIT OF GOD, then the kingdom of God has COME unto YOU.
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon WAS CAST OUT (of heaven)(out of you)....You are the NEW HEAVEN ( Revelation 21:1) where GOD dwells. Colossians 1:27
Revelation 12:10 Now is come SALVATION ....
Luke 10:18 And he said unto him, I saw SATAN as lightning FALL FROM HEAVEN (from within YOU).
Revelation 12:10 Now is come SALVATION, and POWER, and THE KINGDOM OF OUR LORD ....
To understand the third killed in Revelation, you have to understand Ezekiel 5:1-5 and Zachariah 13:8-9 and Malachi 3:2-3
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Christ is the MAN ( Ephesians 5:23), we (the church) are the WOMAN ( Galatians 3:28).
Christ is the TEMPLE (church)( Revelation 21:22).
Christ (the Spirit of LIFE and TRUTH) lives IN US ( Colossians 1:27); therefore we become the TEMPLE ( 1 Corinthians 3:16), ALSO.
We (the woman) are not to teach in the church (ourselves); but, the MAN (Holy Spirit) is to be our teacher.
1 John 2:27 But the anointing (Holy Spirit) which you have received of him (Christ) abideth in you, and you need not that any man (only Christ, the Holy Spirit)) teach you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as he hath taught you, abide in him (the WORD(S) of GOD).
You are correct; when God purposes something, it's good as done.
1 Timothy 2:4 Who WILL HAVE (God's WILL; will be done)( Matthew 6:10) ALL MEN TO BE SAVED, and come to the KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTH.
1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour (in the WORKS OF GOD; not our work)( Colossians 1:29) and suffer reproach, because we trust ( Ezekiel 36:27) in the living God, who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN, specially those who believe ( Philippians 1:29)
1 Timothy 4:11 There things COMMAND and TEACH.
God IS NOT searching for those who want to SERVE HIM; because if it were up to flesh, NO ONE would serve him. He has already CHOSEN US ( Ephesians 1:11); he is BRINGING US TO THAT TRUTH ( Ezekiel 36:27).
Flesh WILL NOT serve GOD; it is enmity to SPIRIT ( Romans 8:7) .
God has CHOSEN (through casting the die; if you will)( Ezekiel 20:37) a select FEW to be KINGS and PRIEST ( Revelation 5:10) with HIM in his kingdom.
Those, CHOSEN TO BECOME the IMAGE of GOD ( Romans 8:29)( Ephesians 4:24), will become judges with Christ' at the resurrection of the dead, back to their flesh ( 1 Corinthians 6:2)( Revelation 2:26-27). They (the dead) will be THEN brought to TRUTH.
Isaiah 29:9 For when thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.
None of this is a reproof to you, my brother in Christ, I am just ADDING to your comments.
Most people are taught by the traditions of man, very few study themselves and let the Spirit reveal the truth to them.
Romans 8:20 For the CREATURE (CREATION) was made SUBJECT TO VANITY (evil), not WILLINGLY, but by REASON of him who hath SUBJECTED the same (creation) in HOPE. (Becoming ONE with their CREATOR).
Ponder on the tree of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.
That knowledge exist TOGETHER, you can't have the KNOWLEDGE of good without also having the KNOWLEDGE of evil.
After partaking of this KNOWLEDGE of good and evil, God said, behold they (creation) have become like one of us to KNOW good and evil.
This KNOWLEDGE is necessary to become LIKE GOD.
John 17:21 That they (creation) ALL may BE ONE; as thou Father, art ONE IN ME, and I IN THEE, that thou also may be ONE IN US: that the world MAY BELIEVE that thou has SENT ME.
Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery....CHRIST IN YOU.....
Revelation 4:5 And out of the throne (you are the throne of CHRIST)( Revelation 20:4) proceeded lighting, and thunder and voices: BURNING ( Isaiah 4:4) before the throne (you are the throne of CHRIST)( Revelation 20:4), which (lighting, thunder, voices) ARE the SEVEN Spirits of God (now in you).
Isaiah 11:2 And the (first is the) SPIRIT of the LORD (Father) shall rest upon him (Christ (in you)), the (second) spirit of WISDOM, and (the third spirit of) UNDERSTANDING, the (forth) spirit of COUNSEL and (the fifth spirit of) MIGHT, the (sixth) spirit of KNOWLEDGE and (the seventh spirit) of the FEAR of the Lord.
When we no longer have to SUFFER IN THE FLESH we will BE ONE WITH THE FATHER AND SON.
You haven't made bad choices in the past; but you have been DECEIVED about those choices.
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (Spirit, truth, life) which WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL (he causes his will (choice) to be your will (choice) and TO DO (take a certain job, etc.) of his good pleasure.
We can not see the END from the BEGINNING; but God can, and he causes us to follow the path he has laid out, because it will end in PERFECTION.
Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL put my Spirit WITHIN YOU, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes (my WILL), and you shall keep my judgements (WORDS) and DO THEM. Ending in perfection, you become the IMAGE OF GOD.
You can not take the wrong path, even though it may not seem right to your eyes of flesh.
ALL IS OF GOD; TRUST and BELIEVE.
Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ....Christ in you .....
John 15:16 You have not chosen me, but I HAVE CHOSEN YOU, and ordained you ...
Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not ONLY TO BELIEVE on him, but also to suffer (in the flesh) for his (name) sake.
Ephesians 2:10 For we (the pot) are his (the potter's) workmanship, CREATED in Christ JESUS....
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (SPIRIT) that WORKETH IN US both TO WILL (his will becomes our will, only truth reveals this; otherwise, we incorrectly believe it is OUR FREE WILL) and TO DO his good pleasure.
Ephesians 1:11 In whom we also have obtained an INHERITANCE, being predestinated according to the PURPOSE of him who WORKETH ALL THINGS after the council of HIS WILL.
Psalms 92:4 For thou, LORD, has made me glad through THY WORK: I will triumph in the WORKS of THY HANDS.
Psalms 92:5 O LORD, how great are THY WORKS! and thy thoughts are very deep.
Psalms 92:6 A brutish man (beast) knoweth not; neither doth a FOOL understand this.
We are ONLY the pot, pots are made to HOLD something. We were made to hold GOD (SPIRIT).
The SPIRIT does ALL THE WORK.
Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery.... CHRIST IN US (the pot) .....
When the powers, signs, and wonders were in effect, 'everyone' was healed - this 'authority' was Of God, "Confirming Through HIS apostles, That His Word Was The Truth!" Plus, All 'believers' in God's 'Prophetic' Program had this, from Christ, on the earth:
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In My Name {'Authority'} shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. So then after The LORD had spoken unto them, He was received up into heaven, and sat on The Right Hand Of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, The LORD Working with them, and 'Confirming The Word With Signs following.' Amen." ( Mark 16:16-20)
Notice, not all 'believers' at that time had the "authority to raise the dead." That "belonged to the apostles Only!" ( Acts 9:39-40)
Act 5:12 "And by the hands of 'the apostles' were many signs and wonders wrought among the people... compare Acts 5:13-16 = everyone was healed.
However, after Israel "fell" ( Acts 7:51-60), God "raised up Paul," who Also had signs, wonders, and powers "apostolic authority," which Also 'Included' raising the dead. ( Acts 20:9-10)
After "God Finally set 'Israel' aside, and Paul went to the Gentiles Only" ( Acts 28:28), God 'Withdrew this {temporary} authority.' Since Paul's Revelation of The Mystery in Romans Through Philemon 'Fulfills/Completes' Scripture ( Colossians 1:25), 'Confirmation' was no longer necessary. What do we have for our 'infirmities' Today, Under GRACE?:
continued in Part II (6 days below this post...) Be Richly Encouraged!
1) Concerns a kingdom: a political organization ( Daniel 2:44; Matthew 6:10)
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From {RDf} "Things That DIFFER!":
1) Concerns a body; a living organism ( 1 Corinthians 12:12; 1 Corinthians 12:27; Ephesians 4:12-16)
2) The kingdom to be established on earth ( Jeremiah 23:5; Matthew 6:10)
RDf
2) The Body given a position in Heaven ( Ephesians 1:3; Ephesians 2:5-6; Colossians 3:1-3)
3) Christ to be its King ( Jeremiah 23:5; Isaiah 9:6-7)
RDf
3) CHRIST Is The Living Head ( Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18)
4) The Body Chosen In CHRIST "Before the world began," but "kept secret since the world began" ( Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11; Ephesians 3:5-9)
RDf
4) The kingdom prophesied "since the world began" ( Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21)
5) Israel to be given supremacy over the nations ( Isaiah 60:10-12; Isaiah 61:6)
RDf
5) Jew and Gentile place on the same level before God ( Romans 10:12; Romans 11:32; Ephesians 2:16-17)
6)The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel's instrumentality ( Genesis 22:17-18; Zechariah 8:13)
RDf
6) The Gentiles blessed through Israel's obstinancy ( Acts 13:44-46, Romans 11:28-32)
7)The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel's rise ( Isaiah 60:1-3; Zechariah 8:22-23)
RDf
7) The Gentiles blessed through Israel's fall ( Acts 28:27-28; Romans 11:11-12; Romans 11:15)
8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such ( Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 37:21-22)
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":
8) The Mystery Concerns individuals ( Romans 10:12-13; 2 Corinthians 5:14-17)
9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth ( Isaiah 2:3-4; Isaiah 11:1-9; etc.)
RDf
9) The Mystery Concerns "all spiritual blessings in The Heavenlies" ( Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 3:1-3)
10) Prophecy concerns Christ's Coming to the earth ( Isaiah 59:20; Zechariah 14:4)
RDf
10) The Mystery Explains Christ's absence from the earth ( Ephesians 1:20-24; Colossians 3:1-3)
11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is not contemplated ( Matthew 28:19-20; Matthew 23:1-3; Luke 7:29-30; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; James 2:17)
RDf
11) Salvation "By GRACE Through faith" Alone lies at The Very Heart Of The Mystery! ( Romans 3:21-26; Romans 4:5; Ephesians 2:8-9)
12) The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly to the twelve ( Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 1:6-8; Acts 3:19-26)
RDf
12) The proclamation of The Mystery program committed particularly to Paul ( Ephesians 3:1-3; Ephesians 3:8-9; Colossians 1:24-27)
13) The prophetic program revealed through many of God's servants Luke 1:70; 2 Peter 1:21)
RDf
13) The Mystery revealed through one man: Paul! ( Galatians 1:1; Galatians 1:11-12; Galatians 2:2; Galatians 2:7; Galatians 2:9; Ephesians 3:2-3)
14) Old Testament writers frequently did not understand the prophecies made through them ( Daniel 12:8-10; 1 Peter 1:10-12)
RDf
14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might understand The Mystery revealed through him ( Ephesians 1:15-23; Ephesians 3:14-21; Colossians 1:9-10; Colossians 2:1-3)
{borrowed from "Things That Differ" by C.R. Stam}
He was talking to his son (Jesus Christ/Earthly Name- Luke 1:31. Michael The arch Angel/Heavenly Name Rev.12:7-12)
John 1:1-3 (Jesus Never called himself A God. But gave all Glory to his Father in heaven.- John 5:19; John 17; Matthew 22:37; Psalms 83:18)
Read Colossians 1:15-17
Why do you BELIEVE FIRE is literal of physical fire. Why is the worm that never DIES a literal or physical worm.
Christ SAID my words are SPIRIT, therefore the fire is spirit, the worm is spirit.
Job 25:6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man (SPIRIT, TRUTH, LIFE), which is A WORM?
Hebrews 12:29 For OUR GOD (SPIRIT, TRUTH, LIFE) is a consuming FIRE.
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery .... CHRIST IN YOU....the fire (spirit of Christ) that DESTROYS and PURIFIES is never quenched but IMMORTAL. The worm (spirit of Christ) that DESTROYS flesh and never DIES but is IMMORTAL.
We are the vessel (POT) the fire and the worm are the potter (CREATOR).
Psalms 104:30 Thou (the Father) sendest (SENT the Son) thy Spirit (of Christ), they (the vessels) are CREATED (by the WORKS of SPIRIT) (the fire and the worm): thou RENEWEST the face of the earth.
Precious friend, actually the confusion disappears when the THREE raptures "are LEFT In God's Contexts, Where HE Placed Them!" Amen? ie:
PRE-TOJT rapture:
(1) Body Of CHRIST Departure TO Heaven (Read/study Romans - Philemon) = God's 'Context' is ALL 'Spiritual!' We are not "looking for the man of sin/signs to enter into The Time of Jacob's Trouble." ( 2 Corinthians 5:7); We are "looking, watching, and Patiently waiting For CHRIST, Who Will Present ALL of The Body Of CHRIST, holy and unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, TO His Father, In Heaven, Where we Will Live Forever And Ever! ( 1 Thessalonians 3:13; Colossians 1:5, 22; 1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2) Amen?
MID-TOJT raptures:
(2) During The Time {God's 'Context'} of JACOB's {ISRAEL's} Trouble, there Will Be TWO "raptures":
a) one departure is of the TWO witnesses, killed, resurrected, and taken up ( Revelation 11:1-12)
b) the other departure is of the 144,000 "sealed virgins of TWELVE tribes ( Revelation 7:1-8) redeemed from the earth," and were "without fault before The Throne of God!" ( Revelation 14:1-5)
Please refrain from listening to those who "MIX these up" in confusion. And:
Please Be RichlyEncouraged, Enlightened,Exhorted, and Edified In JESUS CHRIST!
( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship, today?)
Part III
The Second 'prophesied' Coming
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That DIFFER:
The PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure, According to TheHeavenly'Mystery!':
(1) Immediately After GRACE Has ENDED/ZERO signs!:
CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From Heaven! ( Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel, And With The Trump of God! ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16)
3) God (JESUS CHRIST) Will BringWithHim {those who Were With Him In Heaven},partOf His Own, those who are "asleep In JESUS!" ( 2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:21-23; 1 Thessalonians 4:13)
(4) CHRIST Descends WithOnearchangel, Will resurrect those asleep{in 3)}First, and Then, we "which are alive and remain," {which Is A Mystery!}, will be changed/all "incorruptible, And Caught Up" together to meet The LORD in the air {NOT "all the way to the earth!"}, in the "twinkling of an eye!" ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:52-53)
(5) CHRIST "Gathers His Body" To HIMSELF, to Take them To Heaven {OPPOSITE of earth}... ( 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15:49; 2 Corinthians 12:2, 5:1, 2; Ephesians 1:3, 20, 2:6; Philippians 3:20; 2 Timothy 4:18)
6)...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body, By The Head Himself!... ( Romans 2:6, 16, 14:10-12; 1 Corinthians 3:7-15, 4:5, 6:20; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Ephesians 6:8; Colossians 3:24-25)
to be continued in:
Part IV God's PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure!
(7a) ...After Judgment, the GRACE assembly Is Then Presented as A Glorious Church, To CHRIST Himself!... ( Ephesians 5:27)
(7b) ...And, Then CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father, In Heaven, Where we Live Forever And Ever! Amen! ( 1 Thessalonians 3:13; Colossians 1:5, 22; 1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2)
Thus, we do "Know the order, and realize our place according to the grand scheme." = Today is GOD's PURE {Gospel Of} GRACE {Light} 'Offered' to all 'INDIVIDUALS,' and WHEN 'it ENDS' With HIS Great GRACE Departure {'Removing' ALL HIS 'ambassadors'}, only THEN Will Fall:
God's {OPPOSITE of GRACE} JUDGMENT In The Time of JACOB's TROUBLE {Tribulation, GREAT tribulation And Wrath in Woe, Dread, Terror, And DARKNESS}, for "ISRAEL And The UNbelieving Nations!"
Thus, question: Precious friend, WHY do you "DESIRE what is NOT our place according to the grand scheme"? ( Amos 5:18)
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LORD JESUS, thank You so much for Your Precious BLOOD, Gift Of ETERNAL Salvation, And for Your Blessed Hope ofGlorification When You COME To Finally GATHER us HOME! Amen.
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our "place In The Grand Scheme"?:
( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9) = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today, Current, "But NOW!" Amen?
Precious friends, Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, Edified, And "COMFORTED With THESE Words Of God's Truth!" ( 1 Thessalonians 4:18)
You said: One thing for sure all children are God's children. You are right but:
GOD IS SPIRIT; therefore all GOD'S children are SPIRIT. Jesus is SPIRIT with a glorified BODY (an omnipresent body).
Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery ...CHRIST IN US ....
God's kingdom is not of this world, you can't use your five senses when you are DELIVERED (at the death of this body of flesh) into the kingdom of heaven. You become SPIRIT.
Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit. You BECOME ONE with SPIRIT (the Father), you BECOME ONE with Christ (his body).
1 Timothy 6:16 Who ONLY hath IMMORTALITY ....
I AM the way (SPIRIT), TRUTH, and LIFE.
1 Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible (body of flesh) shall have PUT ON INCORRUPTION (Christ body), and this mortal (body of flesh) shall have PUT ON IMMORTALITY (Christ body), then shall be brought TO PASS the saying that is written, DEATH IS SWALLOWED UP IN VICTORY.
The children of (Christ's) resurrection (TRUTH) ( Isaiah 26:18) will never see DEATH, for they are passed (by TRUTH) from DEATH to LIFE (SPIRIT).
Those that have their part in the second resurrection will see death and afterwards be raised back in their flesh TO JUDGEMENT. To be brought to TRUTH.
Isaiah 26:9 ....when thy judgements (second resurrection to judgement) are in the EARTH, the inhabitants of the WORLD will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.
God is SPIRIT.
Christ is SPIRIT (God) with a (glorified) BODY.
SPIRIT is TRUTH (cannot be deceived).
SPIRIT is LIFE (cannot die).
WE are FLESH.
FLESH is against (anti) SPIRIT.
FLESH is against (anti) TRUTH.
FLESH is against (anti) LIFE.
Christ came as FLESH, Christ died; and with his death ALL FLESH DIED, Christ (through the power of SPIRIT was resurrected), when he was resurrected ALL FLESH was resurrected (most are dead in UNBELIEF (trespasses) not knowing TRUTH.
The wages of sin (UNBELIEF) IS DEATH.
The wages of GO AND SIN NO MORE (BELIEF) is LIFE and TRUTH (born of SPIRIT).
Those that come to know TRUTH (born again of the SPIRIT; which is TRUTH AND LIFE, the first death and first resurrection) will NEVER DIE they will leave this BODY of FLESH and be given the (glorified BODY of CHRIST).
John 3:13 No man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of Man which is in heaven.
Christ (Spirit, Truth, Life) is IN YOU. You are the NEW HEAVEN.
Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven.....
Revelation 21:3 ...Behold, the (temple, Christ is the temple) tabernacle of God is with (WITHIN) men..
Revelation 21:22... for the Lord God almighty and the Lamb are THE TEMPLE of it.
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery.... CHRIST IN YOU ....
1 Corinthians 3:16 ....ye are the temple (ONE IN CHRIST) of God (SPIRIT).
Truth (Good)(Spirit) overcomes deception (Evil) (Flesh).
Truth will make you a full brother to Christ. SPIRIT with a (glorified) BODY.
Luke 20:36 Neither can they die ANY MORE (you died with Christ); for they are equal to the angels (MINISTERING SPIRITS), and are the children of God (Spirit, truth, life), being the children of (CHRIST'S) resurrection.
Revelation 14:13 Blessed are they which DIE IN THE LORD (Spirit, Truth, Life) from henceforth....