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Many things from the OT are not valid now Sacrifices, offerings, commandments, holy days etc have no place in NT. One of them is Sabbath.
See Colossians 2:16. Here apostole Paul says to Colosians that no man can judge them because they didn't follow OT's practises, including (pay attention) Sabbath as some Jewish christians claimed. Paul dismisses this idea.
Christians soon chose the first day of the week for their formal congregation during which they "broke bread" that is take the Body and Blood of Jesus Crist or as some churches name it have Holly Communion, see Acts 20:7,
Also in 1 Corinthians 11:20 Paul talks about Lord's Super, (but the greek text says Lord's Day super "Kyriako deipno") . Lord's Day is how early Christians called Sunday. Early Christians had the Holly Communion during a super just as Jesus did with His Disciples. This practice was abandoned sometime during the 2nd century AD and the Holly Communion was transferred from the church's super to the formal Sunday service.
Also see 1 Corinthians 16:2 Paul says to Christians in Corinth to gather money on Lord's Day.
Also in Revelation 1:10 apostole John talks about Lord's Day
So the formal day for christians at the time that the apostles lived was Sunday,. Sabbath has nothing to do with us now Many other verses that i cannot remember now verify that the Sunday and not Sabbath was the formal day for early christians.
You can find all those things in books about the history of church.
Now as far as commandments are concerned to be honest i have no idea what the Catholic church has done.
God bless you.
I believe you are referring to Revelation 1:18 where we find Jesus having the keys of death.
We can look at, then, at Colossians 2:15 -
"15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it."
Jesus spoiled all the rulers of darkness; satan and his cohorts are defeated foes; all power and glory belongs
to Christ, Who has gotten us the victory! Amen!
Blessings!
The Bible says that Mary, the mother of Jesus was overshadowed by the Holy Ghost. It would be correct to say that The Holy Spirit of God fathered the child Jesus. The first commandment Moses delivered reveals that it is paramount we know that our God is ONE. The OT says quoting THE ALMIGHTY. "I AM THE LORD, BESIDE ME, THEIR IS NO SAVIOUR" Yet the book of John says, In the begining was the Word. And the Word was made flesh. It goes on to say He created the worlds. In Paul's letters to various churches, he writes, speaking of Jesus. "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" Colossians 2:9
When we baptize in the name of Jesus as instructed in Acts 2:38, we indeed are using the name of The Father, The Son, The Spirit as commanded by Jesus in Mathew 28:19. Multiple countless Bible entries clearly show the Oneness nature of our Jealous God who refuses to share His Glory. Make sure to follow up with the promise in the book of Acts chapter 2 and receive the PROFOUND baptism by fire. It is essential for everyone who seeks the power to know God on a very personal level.
All flesh is appointed to die.
Every soul that sin shall die the 2nd death.
There's a new birth at conversion for those who trust in Christ. This is defined in baptism.
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Hebrews 9:27.
There is in scripture what is called the 2nd death. This has been taken care of for those who trust Christ.
Without Christ you're already dead.
1 Timothy 5:6.
Ephesians 2:5.
Revelation 3:1.
Colossians 2:13.
Romans 8:10.
Mathew 8:22.
Luke 15:24.
And here's an important one for the brethren.
1 John 3:14.
John 11:25-26. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
AND WHOSOEVER LIVETH AND BELIEVETH IN ME SHALL NEVER DIE. Believest thou this?
One of many verses on the 2nd death.
Revelation 20:13-14. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Eternal life.
If you truly trust in Christ, you have been baptized into Christ. You already have ETERNAL life. That's the only kind he's giving.
If you haven't truly trusted in Christ you're already dead while you liveth and it shows up in your living and it observed carefully you'll find it in their Doctrine.
Romans 8:9.
Romans 10:8-10. But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
God bless.
Chris has given a good explanation of the doctrine of the Godhead (Trinity). I wish to add the following:
The Trinitarian nature of God is shown at Jesus' baptism very clearly. the Father spoke in an audible voice heard by others, not just Jesus, The Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus like a dove and rested upon Jesus, the Father claimed that Jesus is His beloved Son.
John chapter 1 speaks of the Word being with God and being God (Speaking of Jesus as the eternal Word) through whom all things were created.
There are many other Scripture references.
The Trinitarian teaching says that there is only one God, who, in his essential nature exists in three distinct Persons, but all share the one essential divine nature.
Some people adhere to a "Oneness" error that states that God is one and He reveals Himself in different modalities to mankind: sometimes as the Father, sometimes as Jesus, and sometimes as the Holy Spirit; but these are not three distinct persons. This historically has been known as Modalism and has been considered heresy across the centuries. If this doctrine was true, then all of God died on the cross. But Jesus cried out to His Father on the cross and God can never cease to exist.
Jesus, as fully God (the Son, the Word) and fully human. He, through his death, was reconciling us to God (the Father).
On the cross the wrath of God (the Father) was poured out on Jesus (God the Son and Son of Man). Jesus did not pour the wrath of God upon Himself, but His Father did.
Even though the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, the word "Godhead" appears in Romans 1:20 and Colossians 2:9.
At the Last Supper, Jesus prayed to the Father and told the disciples that He would ask the Father to send the Holy Spirit. speaking of these as separate Persons distinct from Himself.
I understand that people have differing ideas about this topic. However, I also know that all doctrines about God being a Trinity or not are not all correct, only one is.
The Jesuits were not founded until the 1500s, some involve the Jesuits with end-time teaching, with the black Pope, and more, and their past is not filled with a lot of good. The Sabbath is the seventh day, keeping the Sabbath is more than going to a church on that day, Exodus 20:8-11.
Constantine created the earliest Sunday law known to history in 321A.D. The main reason was the conflicts between the Jews and the Christians and since the pagans did their thing on Sunday. Constantine claimed to be Christian, but this law does not read like it.
"On the venerable Day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country, however, persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits: because it often happens that another day is not so suitable for grain sowing or for vine planting: lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost". Codex Justinianus, lib. 3, tit. 12, 3.
Council of Laodicea -364 AD named Sunday the Lord's Day. One reason was to stop the Sabbath-keeping tendencies in the Eastern Roman Empire. The Council of Laodicea produced sixty rulings, or canons, covering a broad range of topics and punishments.
Many worship on Sunday because the day Jesus resurrected was on the first day of the week and some on Saturday. We are also told not to judge, Colossians 2:16 read all of chapter 2. Every day is a good day to worship in the spirit and truth, John 4:23-24.
Some point to the phrase "four corners of the earth" that appear in the Bible. Isaiah 11:12 Revelation 7:1, and Daniel 4:11 is said the earth would have to be flat to see the tree, and more, but even if people in the past believed the earth was flat, in my opinion, the Bible does not teach that.
God bless,
RLW
The word Godhead is in the KJV three times.
Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's. Godhead, os theios, meaning godlike, divine, divinity.
We see this same word in 2 Peter 1:3-4 translated divine, referring to an attribute of God, not to God Himself.
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Godhead, , theiots meaning divinity, divine nature, theiotes has same meaning as theios.
Colossians 2:8-9 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead. bodily. theotes meaning deity.
My understanding, and I'm sure I am in the minority here; it refers to God's and Jesus's divine characteristics and nature. The word Godhead is used in conversation and discussion, referring to the trinity creed that I do not agree with. The divinity of Jesus the only begotten Son of God cannot be questioned. He is the beginning of creation and through Him all that is, Colossians 1:15-1 but there is many scriptures that does not support this creed.
I could post more but I hope you can use this in your study for your own understanding, not mine. Pray and let the Holy Spirit guide you.
God bless,
RLW
"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." you deceive the world because of the tradition of men who are philosophers or theologians who don't follow after Christ. There is no such thing about Christianity, Theology, and Trinity literally found and written in the King James Version Holy Bible Edition 1611 not even as in the scrolls and manuscripts of Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic languages of the Holy Scriptures Book.
2 Peter 1
16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Revelation 22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Deuteronomy 4:2
"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."
Deuteronomy 12:32
"What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it."
Proverbs 30:5
"Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him."
Proverbs 30:6
"Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar."
Isaiah 55:8
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD."
Isaiah 55:9
"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
Those, who claim to say that they are a theologian that is called philosophy or groups of philosophers because they practice their own theological or philosophical studies at their college or school or university about the scrolls or manuscripts of Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic languages of the Holy Scriptures Books or King James Version Holy Bible. They claim to be called religious believers as Christians because of Christianity that contradicts God and His infallible and living and written Word that is Hebrews 4:12
"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
This discussion reminds me of Romans 14:5-6 and Colossians 2:16 which speaks of not judging others as to whether they keep one day as holy or not, or celebrate some feasts or not. So to me, each person is free to celebrate unto the Lord as they are led to do. Celebrating Holy Week and Easter (as Resurrection Day) does not focus on pagan traditions but on our Lor's final week of life on earth, His death, and His glorious resurrection from the dead. At our church on Resurrection Day, the pastor loudly proclaims, "The Lord is Risen!" And the congregation lifts up a shout, "He is risen, !" That always captures my heart to praise Jesus as I affirm this great event. To have everyone in the congregation shout in unison is wonderful. So, I find this as bring done for the Lord, as Romans 14:5-6 says. And with Colossians 2:16 in mind, I do not judge others as to whether they celebrate this day or not.
But, I agree with you in that we do need to learn about the pagan aspects of celebrating Christian holidays and weed out those practices that give honor to anyone but our Lord.
Wesley's Notes for Revelation 3:18
I counsel thee - who art poor, and blind, and naked. To buy of me - Without money or price. Gold purified in the fire - True, living FAITH, which is purified in the furnace of affliction. And white raiment - True holiness. And eyesalve - Spiritual illumination; the unction of the Holy One, which teacheth all things (the Holy Spirit)
People's Bible Notes for Revelation 3:18
I counsel thee to buy of me gold. In Christ are "all the treasures of wisdom" ( Colossians 2:3). And white raiment. That they may have the wedding garments ( Matthew 22:11-13). Anoint thine eyes with eyesalve. The unction of the Holy Spirit ( 1John 2:20).
Many people have no faith to ask Jesus, themselves, to be healed (physically, emotionally, financially, making decisions, etc). Why?
It's one thing to lay on your mat and stare at Jesus wishing he would heal you. The man explained his parents must've sinned. Jesus had mercy on him. Stand up, pick up your mat and walk home. The man lays there a minute, then obeys. He stands up, dances around leaping for joy-picks up his mat and walks home.
His faith in Jesus's ability, opposed his belief in his parents sins. His faith stood up.
ONLY THE BIBLE can counteract our unbelief and excuses why we are sick or downtrodden by society at large.
Mix faith with obedience to the known Will of God.
Pray the Lords Prayer, and let your ears hear each line. Each one is a YES and AMEN, from God the Father.
Let's be real here? If there's some kind of hidden sin hindering that prayer; dig it up and give it to Jesus. "I did "this" and I'm sorry for it." Jesus's blood erases it. Guard your heart and mind.
The Lords Prayer says, THIS DAY. This is a daily thing. I do it every day. I'm not perfect yet. Some day I may shine a little like gold or silver, that I purchased with prayers. I have His Love and Acceptance now. So do you.
Mishael
Galatians 5:18
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Romans 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
6th commandment says do not kill, but I don't hear anyone trying to reverse that command.
Mark 2:27-28 - Sabbath made for man
Mark 3:4 - its ok to do good on the Sabbath
Colossians 2:16 - don't let others judge you
Matthew 5:17 - law not abolished, but fulfilled. (some still interpret this as abolished, although it just said it wasn't.)
These verses seem to clarify the intent of the Sabbath, but I don't see any verses saying to disregard the Sabbath completely and do not remember it or keep it holy. Those who apply the law is fulfilled to it would also need to apply it equally to do not kill and other commands, but I doubt that God thinks its ok to kill. God bless.
And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:
Isaiah 32:17
And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Acts 17:31
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Colossians 2:2
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
1 Thessalonians 1:5
For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.
Hebrews 6:11
And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
Hebrews 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
By consenting to become a born again Christian ( John 3)
To let go and receive the salvation of Jesus Christ;
To be filled with the Spirit of Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
An exchange is made in Heaven as your name is recorded in the BOOK OF LIFE. Jesus takes your sins (past, present, future) upon Himself. He becomes your Lord; but it takes some Bible reading to discover that.
You have assurance that FAITHFUL IS HE THAT PROMISED. All your sin is washed away with his blood. Isaiah 1:18. (Past, Present, Future)
If we have failures (we all do) then mark in your Bible,
1 John 1:8-10. Pray and confess. Jesus throws it as far as East is to west (infinity).
This is why we sing Blessed Assurance at Church. :)
Build Christian friendships.
[The Holy Spirit is the 3rd person of the Godhead; you'll find that word in the Book of Romans chapter 1:20]
The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US.
Mishael
John 3: 5-7
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Colossians 2: 12
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
My interpretation of this scripture is we are fully immersed in water and have shed our old self and are now new in Christ.
God Bless
Part 1 of 2.
The way you asked the question, "Does the ten commandments apply to all including gentiles?" I would say, yes.
The next question would be, did the 10 commandments slay us all as Paul mentioned in Romans 7:8-9. I would say yes. Because no one has been able to keep the law. Even the greatest 2 Commandments is out our reach without being born again.
Mark 12:29-31. This is a love we can't produce without the Holyspirit being present. It's a fruit of the spirit, and all the law hangs on it.
Galatians 5:14. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Romans 13:10. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
This is what baptism mentioned in Romans 6 is all about. "Not the outward profession we do in water but the inward identification of the Spirit." which has much to say about the sabbath.
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Colossians 2:11-17.
see Part 2.
The same Greek word is used in both instances for 'ordinances', viz. "dogmasin", from which we get, 'dogma'. And in these Scriptures, it is translated as 'decrees or edicts'. So when we read these Scriptures by the apostle, the 'law of commandments & handwriting of ordinances' did not apply solely to the ceremonial laws & of the sacrifices which indeed Christ fulfilled at the Cross, but also to the whole Law that was "blotted out" completely. It had to be so, or else the old Law would still stand, the Jew would have to be bound to it & hence judged by it. But Jesus came to rid the Law that only showed one's sin & brought certain death. By His Sacrifice, the old had gone & the new had come, that from henceforth, "we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter." ( Romans 7:6). Yet, most Jews are still bound to the old Law & by it they will be judged.
Yes, there is a distinction in the moral, civil & ceremonial laws, as seen in the OT. But when the New Covenant was brought in by Christ's Blood, the old Law in totality was annulled - it had to be as both the old & new opposed each other by their: giving, obedience, acceptance & judgement (i.e. received by faith, given power to obey, our acceptance through Christ, & now no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus). Under the old Law that could never be achieved & that's why it took the death of the Son of God.
In answer to your question about keeping all the laws of Moses ? and sacrifice a lamb every morning and every evening ?
My understanding is the 10 commandments are Gods Law/ Moral Law and is unchangeable, binding all of every age and over rules Man's Law.
Law of Moses is Ceremonial Law/ Sacrificial system. it's rites pointed to our promised Saviour, Jesus Christ. After sacrificing his life for us, Ceremonial/ Sacrificial system became null and void. It is the purpose of the enemy to lead people to confuse Gods Law/ Moral Law with the Ceremonial Law.
References; Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2: 14-17, Hebrews 9: 8-9
Blessed be in Christ
I believe the only thing you got right in that post was your first sentence when you said
"I'm not totally clear on this,"
I didn't create the narrative. here's the narrative.
Since God's holy Sabbath day is on a Saturday and we are to honor God's Sabbath day which is the fourth commandment is it wrong for us to be going to church on Sunday shouldn't we be going to church on Saturday.
I used James 2:10. to say you can't just focus on the sabbath day and leave the other 9 commandments out.
And perfectly means ALL of them, all the time!! Are you saying that's wrong? if so you are saying it's ok not to obey the 10 commandments.
And I said the law was given to Israel. Is that wrong? Romans 9:4.
And I gave Colossians 2:14-16.
And you may have read "We rest in the finished work of Christ on the cross"
It doesn't mean we don't have to keep the 10 Commandments!
It means we are no longer condemned by the 10 Commandments. This is the complete work of God.
The 10 commandments is called the ministration of Death.
2 Corinthians 3:6-9.
When someone says we obey God by and through the Spirit isn't that obeying God?
The Spirit commands the heart not the flesh. You have to ALREADY be born again to obey it.
The law commanded the flesh and the flesh is weak! read Romans 7.
This is what James is talking about in James 2:14. Your faith is to be confirmed by good works!
It has nothing to do with the sabbath day.
Again my reason for using
James 2:10. is to say why if you're going to be under the law you have to be perfect.
Furthermore I have no idea how teaching this teaches people to sin when the scripture says
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 3:27-28.
I don't see why you and Gigi have a problem with that.
I will post more later.
God bless."
I believe the only thing you got right in that post was your first sentence when you said
"I'm not totally clear on this,"
I didn't create the narrative. here's the narrative.
Since God's holy Sabbath day is on a Saturday and we are to honor God's Sabbath day which is the fourth commandment is it wrong for us to be going to church on Sunday shouldn't we be going to church on Saturday.
I used James 2:10. to say you can't just focus on the sabbath day and leave the other 9 commandments out.
And perfectly means ALL of them, all the time!! Are you saying that's wrong? if so you are saying it's ok not to obey the 10 commandments.
And I said the law was given to Israel. Is that wrong? Romans 9:4.
And I gave Colossians 2:14-16.
And you may have read "We rest in the finished work of Christ on the cross"
It doesn't mean we don't have to keep the 10 Commandments!
It means we are no longer condemned by the 10 Commandments. This is the complete work of God.
The 10 commandments is called the ministration of Death.
2 Corinthians 3:6-9.
When someone says we obey God by and through the Spirit isn't that obeying God?
The Spirit commands the heart not the flesh. You have to ALREADY be born again to obey it.
The law commanded the flesh and the flesh is weak! read Romans 7.
This is what James is talking about in James 2:14. Your faith is to be confirmed by good works!
It has nothing to do with the sabbath day.
Again my reason for using
James 2:10. is to say why if you're going to be under the law you have to be perfect.
Furthermore I have no idea how teaching this teaches people to sin when the scripture says
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 3:27-28.
I don't see why you and Gigi have a problem with that.
I will post more later.
God bless.
The sabbath day was given to Israel,
not the Church.
If one desire to keep the law he can't just keep the 4th commandment, he must keep the whole law "perfectly" ALL HIS LIFE!
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
James 2:10-11.
We are to rest in the finished work of Christ on the cross. "Meaning he paid the penalty for us and everyone who cannot and never could keep the law. And that's everyone, even Moses.
Colossians 2:15-17. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
If you believe the sabbath is for the Church and you go to service on the sabbath you probably would somehow do something to break the sabbath.
I believe the first man stoned to death was because he gathered sticks, Probably to kindle a fire.
see here:
Num. 15:32-35. And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
Keeping the law imperfectly is "still" a death sentence.
God bless.
The sabbath day was given to Israel,
not the Church.
If one desire to keep the law he can't just keep the 4th commandment, he must keep the whole law "perfectly" ALL HIS LIFE!
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
James 2:10-11.
We are to rest in the finished work of Christ on the cross. "Meaning he paid the penalty for us and everyone who cannot and never could keep the law. And that's everyone, even Moses.
Colossians 2:15-17. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
If you believe the sabbath is for the Church and you go to service on the sabbath you probably would somehow do something to break the sabbath.
I believe the first man stoned to death was because he gathered sticks, Probably to kindle a fire.
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Num. 15:32-35. And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
Keeping the law imperfectly is "still" a death sentence.
God bless.
1 Corinthians 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Galatians 5:11
And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.
Galatians 6:14
But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
Ephesians 2:16
And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Philippians 2:8
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Philippians 3:18
(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Hebrews 12:2
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
*Next 2 verses referring to Jesus
Numbers 21:8
And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a POLE: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, SHALL LIVE.
Numbers 21:9
And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, HE LIVED.
Another religion penned that word. It defines as, THREE. Like Tres, in Spanish means three. Etc
Romans 1:20 clearly shows that Godhead is Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Three in One.
Ephesians 4:5
One Lord, one faith, one baptism
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into ONE Spirit.
Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD, so that they are without excuse:
Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the GODHEAD bodily.
2Thessalonians 2:10-12, Colossians 2:8, Even to the ' religious authority ' Jesus had to rebuke: John 8:44,
Keep reading The WORD, keep seeking truth GOD loves those that seek HIM Deuteronomy 4:29, 3John 1:3, John 17:17, Zechariah 8:16,
Hopefully these are helpful in your searching for truth
Colossians 2:14-17. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. These articles was a shadow of things to come.
We rest in the finish work of Christ.
Hebrews 4:2-11. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
I hope this helps.
God bless.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US. [Jesus]
1 Corinthians 12:1-31 explains all the gifts, titled, administrations that God gives to the Church that Jesus has planted on earth Now.
Those that He calls, he anoints for the work. Luke 4:18. The Bible says the gifts and callings are without revocation. If we try to operate without the Holy Spirits anointing; we will not bear good fruit. Can even become apostate.
It's not something to treat carelessly. The Head of the Church is Jesus Christ. All parts of the Body are connected to Jesus.
God lives outside of time and inside of time.
Romans 1 says that if we dispute the evidence of the reality of God; we are without excuse.
I'm not debating this. It's for whomsoever Will believe God is. Can the clay say to the Potter, " what are you doing?!!
A good REFERENCE Study Bible (KJV)with a "center column reference cross scriptures" is very God for cross reading other relevant passages. It's the best.