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Dylan, you've touched on several aspects of God's dealing with us.

Firstly, when the Bible speaks of 'election' it means that God had in the distant past selected those that would be His children, receive His favour & partake of His Kingdom. Israel is said to be His elect (e.g. Isaiah 45:4) & now those also who have now come to Him for salvation through Jesus Christ His Son (e.g. Colossians 3:12). So if a person does not fall into those categories (i.e. Israel & those born again of God's Spirit), they are not classified as the Elect of God. If a person leads a good life & is generous with his goods to others, this still does not make him acceptable to God, since not one person, bar Christ, was ever good enough to please God ( Romans 3:10, 23).

Now, there's another word similar in meaning to 'election', & that is 'predestination'. These words are almost interchangeable except 'predestination' is used exclusively to born again believers who have been predestined (again, we were appointed before time), to partake in the adoption process. That is, believers might have been elected to be partakers of Kingdom Life, but we have also been appointed to go through the adoption process whereby God, in Love & Mercy, takes someone not in His original family & brings him into His family because of his faith in Jesus Christ. (see Ephesians 1:5, 11). So as a result of our adoption, our predestination into God's Family includes that we don't have Hell as our destiny, but Heaven.

The Bible doesn't speak of any other place where people who die can go to, except Heaven or Hell. Some religions teach falsely of an intermediary place (e.g. purgatory), for a period of further cleansing so as to enter Heaven, but Jesus always taught that there are only two places ( Matthew 18:1-11, for an example of either entering Heaven or Hell). And the decision we make on Earth now determines where our eventual destiny will be. Some mistakenly believe they are on the right way but..for Proverbs 14:12.

9. Speak it and practice the Words of God.

"Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord." - Colossians 3:16 (KJV)

Be the manifestation of God's wisdom. Do not just learn God's words, but also speak it out and practice it. Make yourself the substantial evidence of kindness, compassion, self-discipline, and love. Let the people around you realize that the wisdom of God, which is Christ, is within you.

10. Do your best to get wisdom.

"Get wisdom, get understanding; do not forget my words or swerve from them. Do not forsake wisdom, and she will protect you; love her, and she will watch over you. Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding." - Proverbs 4:5-7 (NIV)

Finally, do your best to get wisdom. Free yourself from foolishness, arrogance, pride, envy, hatred, selfishness, and all the things that hinder wisdom from entering your body, mind, heart, and soul. Let the pure wisdom of God dwell in you.

May you be a Light to everyone around you.

When Christ who is our life shall appear, then shall we see him in glory. The immutable always present God is with us through the power of the Holy Spirit and He will manifest himself in the glorious epiphany in the clouds and we shall see him as he is holy, harmless, righteous and our everlasting Savior. What glory this will be when Jesus we will see and be just like him. This is the blessed hope of the church and we wait patiently for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to appear in the clouds to reveal our life in him which is hidden now.

Bible doesn't condone slavery. Just because it doesn't address it specifically doesn't mean God allows it. It would be a logical fallacy to make such an assumption. The Bible doesn't specifically say that taking illegal drugs is a sin, like meth, cocaine, heroin, weed. Does that mean it condones it or is ok? No. It instead says your body is a holy temple. The Bible also doesn't say lying is wrong or a sin. Does that mean it's ok to lie? No. It says other places to not bear false witness. Lying is a sin. Colossians 3:9, for example. Watching pornography is obviously a sin, but the Bible doesn't say that specifically is a sin. It instead says all lust is sin. But Jesus took it a step further and said if you even look at a woman in the wrong way you're guilty of the sin. There are many other sins like this that aren't directly addressed, but is clear that it's a sin when looking at the context of all the verses. In many cases the Bible is even more restrictive than some assume.

So, if someone is enslaved and held captive beyond their will, it's obvious it's a sin, because of the mountain of verses showing context, like love your neighbor as yourself, and don't seek vengance- turn the other cheek. Matthew 5:43-48. It even takes it a step further and says to be kind to your enemy, pray for them, help others, and give to those who ask. Luke 6:30-36. There are other indications from the Bible that slavery is a sin as well. The mosaic law of the Israelites was to put someone to death for attempting to trade slaves: Exodus 21:16. In 1 Timothy 1:8-10 it lists 'menstealers' (slave-traders) along with other sins.

Romans 13:7-10. The Bible summarizes the commands as not every sin will be perfectly or specifically addressed, but just love one another. It says love is the fulfilling of the law.

I already explained how slavery is different than servitude common in Bible.

Given the mountain of scripture evidence, it would seem dishonest to claim the Bible says slavery is ok.

here God tells Moses what he should do [ numbers 31:17 through 18 now therefore kill every male among the little ones and kill every woman who has known man intimately but all the girls who have not known man it's a mid-lease pair for yourself] and here God is setting the rules for his people that owned slaves [Exodus Chapter 21, verse 20:

If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.]

God is also completely comfortable with the concept of beating your slaves, as long as you don't kill them. [Leviticus Chapter 25, verse 44:

Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelite's ruthlessly.]

Here God states where you may purchase your slaves, and clearly specifies that slaves are property to be bought, sold and handed down. and this is what Jesus has to say about .[ 1st Peter 2:18 slave submit yourself to your masters with all respect not only the good and gentle ones but also the cruel.] shouldn't the Bible say, "Slavery is wrong -- you may have no slaves"? Shouldn't one of the Commandments say, "thou shalt not enslave"? Ephesians 6:5

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Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Colossians 3:22

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Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

Maureen, we can only share our thoughts as to why God does things in a certain way - unless of course, He clearly tells us. We understand that on account of His Holy & Wise Being, & out of love, to have those that would belong to Him & worship Him & for us to enjoy God & His creation, He created a man (after His Own Image): Genesis 1:26. I don't ever think that a woman was ever an after-thought of God. God, as an Omniscient (all-knowing) God, already had His Plans 'set in stone'. Creation of a woman I believe was already in that Plan - after all, companionship, procreation, identification, etc. were all necessary for both man & woman. I always see the Genesis account of creation as both man & woman created in complete equality & perfection & necessary for each other for a perfect representation of the Divine on Earth. Of course, we know the story of man & woman's failure to remain holy by sinning against their Creator.

However, in God's wisdom, the order of creation also depicts the proper of order of human life on Earth. Paul said in 1 Corinthians 11:3: "I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." This is not in any way depicting an inferior position of a woman (or, indeed of Christ to the Father) but an ordered 'hierarchy' & for submission & resorting to each other. As Paul also said, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are ALL ONE in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28. And this clearly shows that women are equal in every way before God & in Christ, but for the sake of position & functions on Earth, the submission of woman to man AND the unequivocal love the man has for his wife: Colossians 3:18, 19, "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them." should remain our united & joyful objective in marriage.

REVELATION 20:4 ... and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded (by truth, sword of God)... There is sin in deception (flesh) and no sin in truth (Spirit). Galatians 2:20 I (the flesh) am crucified with Christ: nevertheless, I live (but am dead); yet not I (because I am dead), but Christ (Spirit of God) liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh (which is dead) I live by the faith (not my faith because I am dead) of the Son of God (Spirit). Colossians 3:3-4 For ye are dead (can the dead sin), and your life is (become the life of the Spirit) hid with Christ in God. (vs) 4 When Christ (in Spirit, in truth), who is our life (Spirit) shall appear (be revealed), then shall ye also appear with him in glory (God). Ephesians 1:22-23 And (the Father) hath put ALL things under his feet, and gave him to be head (because we have been beheaded) over ALL things to the church (your body), (vs) 23 Which is his body (because you are dead), the fullness of him (the Spirit of God) that filleth ALL IN ALL. Colossians 1:18 And he is the head (because you have been beheaded by the sword of God, truth) of the body, the church, the firstborn from the dead (but you were resurrected with him into life)..... Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you (because the carnal head is dead, beheaded by the sword of God, truth) which was also in Christ Jesus (now the new head).......

How often and how long should I fast?

What are some other ways to praise and thank God daily?

I ask for you to join with me in praying for my marriage. My wife has been in pursuit of another man for about a year and is going to pick up his daughter to get their nails done. She is trying to trick him into being with her claiming she is single. She has an online dating profile. I am praying for reconciliation, restoration, protection of our marriage, forgiveness and healing: Matthew 19:16, Hebrews 13:14, Colossians 3:13, Ephesians 4:31-32, Psalm 147:3, 1 Peter 3:8, Psalm 19:14, Psalm 18:30, Romans 12:10

Ephesians 1:18

The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

Hopefully only to help. If any believe the Ten Commandments shouldn't be followed. For any reason. Here is a detailed explanation surrounding them. And more even than that. "Above all things put on Love". God Bless everyone!

Colossians 2:20-23

Colossians 3:1-25

In king Solomon's case As we read 1st kings 11: 1 through 9. His affections were set on the world. It took his focus off of God and caused him to sin. We have to remember what Paul said we must lay aside every weight and the sin that so easily besets us.

Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing,

and obtaineth favour of the Lord.

Proverbs 18:22 | KJV

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Matthew 19:4-6 | KJV

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

Colossians 3:18-19 | KJV

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Hebrews 13:4 | KJV

Who can find a virtuous woman?

for her price is far above rubies.

Proverbs 31:10 | KJV

A man's heart deviseth his way:

but the Lord directeth his steps.

Proverbs 16:9 | KJV

Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.

Ephesians 5:25-26 | KJV

Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

1 Corinthians 7:2 | KJV

And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Genesis 2:18 | KJV

When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.

Deuteronomy 24:5 | KJV

And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Genesis 2:22-24 | KJV

Wives, submit you

The Rapture - the raising of the Church into heaven ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17): is the next event on the prophetic calendar. The Rapture is when Christ comes back and takes every Christian that is still on this earth and resurrects all of those who have died and takes them to heaven with Him. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8, Paul expresses that the Lord's return will be like a thief in the night. No one knows the date or time. However, there are several signs of the End Times that we can all be aware of. Events such as earthquakes and diseases, war and dispute among nations, and persecution against Christians are all signs leading to the Rapture.

SCRIPTURES TO LOOK UP:

Matthew chapter 24: 1-46

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 5:2

Revelation 1:7, 3:10

1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

Mark 13:32

John 14:1-3

Luke 21: 34-36; 12:40

Acts 1: 9-11

2 Peter 3:10-13

Hebrews 9:28

Philippians 3:20

Colossians 3:2

Ezekiel 18:4. Revelation 21

More scriptures on Repentance and Conversion:

Luke 18:13 ; Matthew 9:13 ; Psalms 51:17 2 Corinthians 7:9-11 ; 1 John 1:19 ; Luke 15:18 ; Matthew 3:5-6 ; Acts 19:17-18 ; Romans 6:2 ; 2 Chronicles 7:14 ; Luke 19:8 ; 1 Thessalonians 5:22 ; 2 Corinthians 7:11 ; Romans 8:13 ; Colossians 3:5 ; John 5:24 ; Ephesians 2:1 ; Romans 8:2 ; John 3:5-8 ; Ephesians 5:26 ; Titus 3:5 ; 2 Corinthians 5:17 ;

Romans 12:2 ; John 1:29 ; John 3:14-15 ; 1 Peter 3:18 ; Romans 5:1-2 ; Romans 8:1 ; Philippians 4:7 ; Romans 8:2 ; Romans 8:11-14 ; 2 Corinthians 5:17 ; 1 John 3:19 ; 1 Peter 1:23 ; Psalms 119:11 ; 1 John 4:7 ; Romans 5:5 ; Matthew 5:44 ; 1 John 5:4 ; John 16:33 ; James 1:27 ; 2 Corinthians 4:10 ; Acts 11:26 ; Romans 8:29 ; Ezekiel 36:26-27 ; Ephesians 2:2-3 ; Ephesians 2 4-6 ; Matthew 18:3 ; Acts 3:19 ; Ephesians 4:22-24 ; Colossians 3:1-14 ; Romans 8:29 ; Romans 8:29 ; Romans 6:1-2 ; Matthew 1:21

Likely there are more that are missed here.

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Deuteronomy 28:13-68

But ._._._. Deuteronomy 28:1-13

1 Peter 4:3-5

James 4:11-17

Amos 1:2-15

Amos 2:1-16

Hebrews 10:26-31

Colossians 3:4-6

Ephesians 5:1-21

Revelation

Mathew 23

Mathew 25:31-46

Mathew 24

The Rapture - the raising of the Church into heaven ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17): is the next event on the prophetic calendar. The Rapture is when Christ comes back and takes every Christian that is still on this earth and resurrects all of those who have died and takes them to heaven with Him. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8, Paul expresses that the Lord's return will be like a thief in the night. No one knows the date or time. However, there are several signs of the End Times that we can all be aware of. Events such as earthquakes and diseases, war and dispute among nations, and persecution against Christians are all signs leading to the Rapture.

SCRIPTURES TO LOOK UP:

Matthew chapter 24: 1-46

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 5:2

Revelation 1:7, 3:10

1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

Mark 13:32

John 14:1-3

Luke 21: 34-36; 12:40

Acts 1: 9-11

2 Peter 3:10-13

Hebrews 9:28

Philippians 3:20

Colossians 3:2

Ezekiel 18:4. Revelation 21

The gospel is the Virgin birth, the sinless life of Jesus, His death on the Cross for the sins of mankind (past, present, future),

and the triumphant resurrection of Jesus from the grave.

I'm going to just mention that His ascension to heaven (to sit at the right hand of God) was witnessed and recorded in scripture.

Gospel (definition) = good news

Revelation of Christ

Biblical :

Mathew

Mark

Luke

John

Life of Jesus, prophecy fulfillment of a mesiah, savior, redeemer, forgiveness, reconciliation

I hope that helps

Hello, I spoke with our friend and provided my email. His heart is for people of need that he knows not getting necessary living supplies while money collected seems to be going elsewhere. Pray for peace and God's will to be done.

Thanks Mishael for the encouragement!

Carleton

what is gospel

Attn: Mike on Baptism

The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).

The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of god: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned ( Cor. 2:14).

You cannot just change the word 'born' to 'baptize'. The word of God is not of any private interpretation. The water is the living water (Christ) and unless a person is born of the water and the Spirit , he cannot enter into the kingdom of God ( John 3:5; Isaiah 44:3,4; Matthew 3:11; Titus 3:5).

We invite you to study what it means to repent ( Acts 26:18) and the baptism of repentance ( Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; Acts 13:24; 19:4), as it means a lot more than what by nature you have been conditioned to believe.

Water baptism and circumcision was an act of faith but could not save people. Then the next question should be asked: Faith in what?

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

And if getting to heaven is based on works, how do you ever know when enough was enough? People who sin are not pleasing God and will be convicted and condemned for it. Life will not be ok and there will be consequences one will have to face. No one is perfect and never can be. Jesus dying on the Cross paid our sin debt in full and for people who do not believe in his blood shed and reasoning and who he is will not go to heaven. There is absolute logic in Christianity since we were all born into sin like one who is born with a disability we NEEDED a sinless man, son of God, like Jesus Christ to be crucified in order to be set free from what occurred once Eve and Adam ate the fruit. Open KJV bible and ask for wisdom from God to open your eyes to the truth, you are already digging for it by coming to this page. Something must surely be missing and clearly it is you who needs it just as much as the rest of us. We all NEED Jesus.

The Hebrew word used here for "in the secret" is the same as used for "hiding place" in Psalm 32:7 ("Thou art my hiding place;").

For us this means Jesus Christ, as in Colossians 3:1-4:

If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

The Rapture - the raising of the Church into heaven ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17)-is the next event on the prophetic calendar. The Rapture is when Christ comes back and takes every Christian that is still on this earth and resurrects all of those who have died and takes them to heaven with Him. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8, Paul expresses that the Lord's return will be like a thief in the night. No one knows the date or time. However, there are several signs of the End Times that we can all be aware of. Events such as earthquakes and diseases, war and dispute among nations, and persecution against Christians are all signs leading to the Rapture.

SCRIPTURES TO LOOK UP:

Matthew chapter 24. 25: 1-46

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 5:2

Revelation 1:7, 3:10

1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

Mark 13:32

John 14:1-3

Luke 21: 34-36; 12:40

Acts 1: 9-11

2 Peter 3:10

Hebrews 9:28

Philippians 3:20

Colossians 3:2

Ezekiel 18:4

You can use the empty search box on the KJB website: type in 'Antichrist' and it will list other verses you should read.

Write them down so you can share with friends and family, you want to be in heaven with you.

A Pastor just said in a sermon, that watching the DVD named, The Passion: really shows how Christ suffered so we could be saved. God save you. Amen.

Mishael

Chris,

Great feedback as always:

A foundational aspect which I find myself defending (as the minority position) is the debate between Law vs. Grace as well as Works vs. Grace.

I find myself in the position of believing that we are in need of the Law. We are also in need of Works. And most of all, we are in need of the Grace given to us through faith in Jesus Christ.

I will give my opinion based upon your alphabetic structure

a) I believe that we are ALL "God's "elect,"

Israel is "elect" for all the reasons you mention.

Christians are "elect" because Scripture says so ( Colossians 3:12, 1 Thessalonians 1:4).

b) I agree, and will add that God NEVER intended or believed Israel could fulfill the Law. The Law was given to Israel (and all who cared to follow) for proper ceremonial worship, and for guidance, and for correction.

c) I agree and will add that Jesus not only fulfilled the Law perfectly as a Jew, but also as a man.

d) While I can (partially) agree with you that Christ came to fulfill the Law (of ordinances, i.e. blood sacrifice, not the entire Law), I believe that the MAIN REASON Jesus was promised by God to all of mankind can be found all the way back in Genesis 3:15. At that particular point in time, Adam and Eve were the only two people on the planet to have partaken in sin.

God knew that Israel would backslide. That is why the Savior was promised right from the beginning of the fall of man, thousands of years before the nation of Israel ever existed.

The promise of Genesis 3:15, however, has to do with the DEATH of Jesus, and the result of His crucifixion can be found in Hebrews 2:14.

"Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;"

That is the PRIMARY reason Jesus was promised, and is the (partial) fulfillment of that promise of Genesis 3:15; partial because Satan is not dead yet.

Genesis 2

21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

25 And they were both naked, the man and his WIFE, and were not ashamed.

God planned marriage from the start. He officiated at that marriage. Eve was called His Wife.

Me: to know what is right and to do it are two different things. You can do it according as God meant it's to be or you can spin it some other way.

1 Timothy 4:3 actually says that in the last days before Jesus returns: SOCIETY would forbid people to eat meat, or get married!

Read it.

1 Corinthians 7 covers subjects pertaining to marriage.

Click on the links to prove me knowledgeable or nutcase.

You'll always be happier following Jesus and using the Bible as a light for your path. Don't listen to society.

Why is it so important to get married? Who has to marry a couple for it to be right with God?

Revelations:12:8_9