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  • Simon on 2 Chronicles 10 - 3 years ago
    Part 4

    Ezekiel 38:18-23

    The Lord Jesus Christ standing on Mount Olive:

    The seventh trumpet sounds:

    ( Revelation 16:15) Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. [Jesus comes as a thief at both sixth & seventh trumpets]

    vs 18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face

    vs 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

    ( Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. ( Revelation 16:17) ( John 19:30)

    ( Ezekiel 37:1-14) Resurrection: ...vs 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. vs 11 ...these bones are the whole house of Israel. vs 14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live,..

    ( Matthew 24:30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    ( Revelation 1:7)

    ( Revelation 19:11-16)

    ( Revelation 19:19-20)

    vs 20 ...Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. ( Zechariah 14:1-4) ....Then shall the LORD go forth...And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives...

    ( Zechariah 14:12)

    God removes the 'northern army':

    ( Joel 2:20-21)

    ( Daniel 11:40)

    ( Jeremiah 6:22-23)

    ( Jeremiah 50:3)

    ( Jeremiah 50:41)

    vs 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
  • Simon on 2 Chronicles 10 - 3 years ago
    Part 1 continued:

    ( Ezekiel 21:12) Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people,...smite therefore upon thy thigh. "smite therefore upon thy thigh" is reference to Jacob wrestling an angel for the birthright he obtained from a hungry Esau, for a bowl of lentil soup. Wrestling the angel permanently injured Jacob's thigh ( Genesis 32:24-25). Seen as our "Jacob's time of trouble"; the great tribulation.

    God made both Gog and Esau "small" and "despised "( Obadiah 1:2) Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.

    ( Daniel 11:23) And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

    ( Matthew 24:21-22) For then shall be great tribulation....

    ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3) The falling away is the abomination of desolation.

    ( Mark 13:14) ( Matthew 24:15)

    ( 2 Peter 3:10) (Mathew 3:11)

    ( Amos 5:18) ( Amos 5:20)

    ( Daniel 11:31)

    ( Revelation 17:16-17)

    ( Daniel 9:27)

    ( Jeremiah 51:53)

    ( Revelation 18) vs 20 ...for in one hour is she made desolate.

    ( Revelation 18:9-10) ...for in one hour is thy judgment come. ( Ezekiel 18:26)

    ( Daniel 12:6-7)

    Israel (house) is notably attacked [from the south to the north]:

    ( Ezekiel 21:2-4) And say to the land of Israel (northern kingdom),...therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh [from the south to the north].

    ( Ezekiel 20:46-47) ....Behold, I will kindle a fire in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree:...and all faces [from the south to the north] shall be burned therein.

    ( Isaiah 21:1) ....As whirlwinds in [the south pass through]; so it cometh from the desert, from a terrible land (Gog's land)

    ( Job 37:9)

    ( Isaiah 24) "Day of the Lord" aftermath.

    ( Revelation 9:18) By these three was the third part of men killed...
  • Simon on 2 Chronicles 10 - 3 years ago
    Part 2

    Ezekiel 38:10-13

    Gog did all that God asked of him by destroying Israel, Babylon, so what turned God against Gog? "At the same time" he's doing God's will, Gog thinks an "evil thought".

    10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

    11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

    12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

    13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

    vs 13 connection:

    ( Daniel 7:24) And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them (Gog); and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings, [Sheba, and Dedan, and Tarshish].

    ( Daniel 11:42) He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. [Saudi Arabia, Egypt & Turkey?]

    Gog attacks 3 of 10 nations gathered unto him, nations that surround Israel. He subdues and spoils them by ground warfare (like Judah), not by annihilating them to dust like the house of Israel (Isaiah:13). antichrist seeks a Greater Israel Project of his own.

    from vs 10: "that at the same time....."
  • Simon on 2 Chronicles 10 - 3 years ago
    Part 3 continued:

    Gog has 42 months, minus 1 hour of absolute power left. The lead house of Israel was defeated ( Ezekiel 21:12) in the like manner as Babylon ( Isaiah 47). antichrist sets up his beast 'marked' government.

    ( Daniel 9:25) ...and to build Jerusalem the street shall be built again, and the wall (temple)...

    ( 2 Thessalonians 2:4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    ( Daniel 2:41) And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided...

    ( Daniel 11:44) But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy...

    ( Amos 1:6) The Philistines raided Judah under king Joram ( 2 Chronicles 21:16-17). They sold their captives to the archenemy of Israel, the Edomites.

    ( Obadiah 1:10) For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.

    ( Obadiah 1:8) Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

    ( Obadiah 6 & 7) All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee....

    ( Revelation 16:16) ....And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

    Gog's 42 months of power are coming to a close. His army is feuding to a point where, if allowed to, they would completely destroy the earth. This is the sole reason for the second coming of Jesus Christ: to prevent armies from ending the planet. When they of Revelation 16:16 see Christ's brightness upon Mt Olive, they will come down to the slaughter.
  • Francesco on Daniel 11:41 - 3 years ago
    This sounds like the Roman empire expanding and conquering the ptomely. They don't conquer the edomites or ammonites or moabites? The empire got the coast of lybia but not the entire nor the Ethipionians.
  • Francesco on Daniel 11:37 - 3 years ago
    I do believe that the 70th week is when Jesus resurrects. Daniel 9:26.
  • Daniel - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 3 years ago
    Hi Tatjana,

    Please note that are still some years left before the antichrist is revealed based on Daniel 11:13, and this is after the wars in Daniel 11:6-12 have taken place. I believe that the opening of the second seal will be the beginning of the wars that are written in Daniel 11:6-45, since even with this 'virus' the world is still at peace.
  • Sandra - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 3 years ago
    Their can only be two classes, those who receive the living seal of god or those who receive the mark of the beast or his image .We are near the close of time. We have been given great light in regards to Gods law. " They shall be mine saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him" [ Mal 3:17 ] A mark is placed upon everyone of Gods people, who bear the likeness to Christ in character. The seal of God will never be placed upon the foreheads of men or women of false tongues or deceitful hearts.To receive the seal all must be without spot before God. In the preparation for the coming of our Lord we should set time aside for prayer and fasting. Satan will use every opportunity to seduce and deceive men from their allegiance to God. But our God is a God or mercy, long- suffering and tender compassion giving warnings to save all from divine wrath. "Satan will work with all power and deceivableness of unrighteousness."2 Thessalonians and lead the world captive. Evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse,deceiving,and being deceived [ 2 Tim.3:13 ] When Gods law the fourth commandment; Remember the Sabbath [Saturday ] day to keep it holy, when this law is made void then wrath of God will be upon the inhabitants of the earth. The United States is the 2nd beast which hands power back to the first beast who's deadly wound was healed. For he causeth all both small and great rich and poor free and bond to receive a mark in his forehead or in his hand [ Rev 13 ]

    Study [ Revelation 13 ] [ Revelation 14] [ Revelation 17] [ Daniel 8] [ Daniel 11:36-39] [ 2Thess 2: 3,4 ]

    To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God [ Rev2:7 ]
  • Lawrence P Beduhn on Daniel 8 - 3 years ago
    Yea, he [antichrist beast] magnifiedhimselfeven to [against] the princeof the host[Christ], and by him the dailysacrificewas taken awayH7311H7311, and the place of his [Christ] sanctuarywas cast down.

    { Daniel 8:11}

    (Here the place of the true sanctuary is being cast down: see Heb 8:1)

    And armsshall standon his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuaryof strength, and shall --take away--H5493[call/bring back] the daily, and they --shall place-- H5414 [set up]the abominationthat maketh desolate.

    { Daniel 11:31}

    --Jesus at his crusifiction caused the sacrifice and the oblation of the daily to cease.

    ( Daniel 9:27)

    And from the time[508 A.D.] thatthe daily (sacrifice)shall be --taken away--H5493, [call back] and the abominationthat maketh desolateset upH5414,there shall be a thousandtwo hundredand ninetydays. ("The time of the end")

    { Daniel 12:11}

    (The spurious sanctuary being set up in place of the true sanctuary in heaven, which is what the terminus quem of 1798 A D. gives us.)

    This is the antichrist beast of Rome who thinks to change times and laws of God, and who in their own words thinks to reinstate the the literal sacrifices (daily) that Christ caused to cease with his one perfect sacrifice.

    And he ['ha moshiach'] shall confirm the covenant ['berit hadashah'] with many for one week: and in the midst of the week [the 70th week] HE SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations
  • P.Bynum on Daniel 11 - 3 years ago
    Here is my question the six day war on 1967 will celebrate it's 70 anniversary in 2037 10 years later is2047 according to Psalms 70 years and by reason of strength 80 is this significant for the city of Jerusalem for prophecy .
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Daniel 11:35 - 4 years ago
    Hebrew word translated to sound like (lah-vahn) ; ...To make pure, spotless
  • Ann on Daniel 11:35 - 4 years ago
    JESUS SAID" BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM."

    JOHN 8:57-58

    "Then said the Jews unto him, Thou Art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham Jesus said unto them verily verily I say unto you before Abraham was I am.



    IF YOU ARE A believer In God, he will show you the Way. HE is faithful.

    ALL THROUGH Gods Word we are told of Our Lord. Even Moses spoke of Him.

    Do not allow human emotions to block out Gods Promise to you, of the Messiah, Jesus Christ Our Lord and Saviour.

    Ask The Great I Am, you will be given the answer.
  • Dale Brown on Daniel 11:35 - 4 years ago
    in Daniel 11:35 what is meant by "and to make them white"?
  • Mishael on Jeremiah 15 - 4 years ago
    Has anyone EVER asked WHY the entire planet hates Israel? Ever looked at a map and seen how small that nation is?!!

    And Palestinians are squatted on 1/3 of it, screaming to all nations to force Israel to give up the rest of it.

    The Russians are firing on USA fighter aircraft almost every week. China has Muslims locked up in camps to be reprogrammed. Does our network television report that? Have they reported on the new and improved SILK ROAD from China to the Mediterranean? (Supposedly for commerce traffic.) They plan to move nukes and troops on that road! It follows with end time prophesy.

    The book of Job has a chapter on animals. We're the ostriches! Head down in the sand; buttocks up. I'm not at all sure any leaders in the USA have a working knowledge of Bible Prophesy. I do know Daniel 11 reads like the Israeli Daily newspaper. American newspapers don't give a flying frisbee what's going on.

    Daniel 11:37 describes the Antichrist (the whole chapter does really). I don't believe he's Jewish. Possibly Muslim because of "the God of his fathers", comment.

    Chapter 12: 3-4, 8-10 describes us, today. The words are being unsealed, and it falls to us to be wise and understand the words.

    The wicked do not understand. That's why fake news has no interest in it. WHO will understand and speak it? I believe the churches are being closed, demonically, to silence us; to stop corporate prayer and intercession. Intercession gives birth to spiritual moves of God.

    Who will count the cost...and Pay It?? It's time to wake, Sleepers. All of you. Give a break to pet doctrines and give some prayer to Daniel 11 & 12. we need to be rightly dividing: reading in Hebrew and Greek.

    See you tomorrow
  • USE THE SEARCH BOX - In Reply on 2 Thessalonians 2 - 4 years ago
    All of these verses speak about THE Antichrist. Most Bible Concordances will list



    1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

    Revelation 13:1-18 - And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. (Read More...)

    1 John 4:3 - And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

    2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 - Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (Read More...)

    1 John 2:18 - Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    Daniel 11:21 - And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

    Daniel 7:25 - And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

    Matthew 24:24 - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

    1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
  • Mishael to Bob H - In Reply on Luke 21 - 4 years ago
    That is right: MANY NATIONS. Abraham had Isaac ... and Ishmael. Israel is one nation and>

    Genesis 17: 18-21

    Ishmael was born in Gods permissive will.

    God blessed him

    Will make him fruitful

    Will multiply him exceedingly:

    Twelve princes shall he beget

    I will make him a great nation

    That explains a lot I think, but read also Genesis 18: 18-19 There is a note to read: Gen 12:3, 22:28, psalm 72:17, Acts 3:25, Gal. 3:8-9, 16, 18

    Isaac gets Israel (all the land of Canaan). I'd have to look at maps later.

    There is great resentment in Israel right now. Palestinians want the land back pure & simple. They want everything that was Destroyed to be rebuilt, infrastructure and full access to Jerusalem. They want everything that the war of 1967 gained!!! It's mind boggling. Israel gets to be a state but loses what they fought for independence to regain.

    This is the engine that is hurrying the earth to conclusion. It's partly why we are commanded to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. God is NOT going to rescind the covenant with Abraham.

    One point about the Antichrist is found in Daniel 11:37....neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard ANY god: for he shall magnify himself. [a note refers to Isaiah 14:13 here]

    Bottom line is that Antichrist is most likely descended from Ishmael. But he has no regard for his heritage.

    He's moving under the radar but if enough people read Jerusalem Post dot com ?? We may see him in a crowd with a smirk.

    The prophesies are about the Covenant; the land God has given to Israel through Isaac.

    There are many people's that are returning that believe Jesus is the Messiah; they're happy about it; most likely have churches; evangelize...

    How can you despise that? Israel is the apple of Gods eye. He rejects orthodox Torah carrying boneheads that will not receive His son. He is turning up the pressure every day. God has a plan! Quit railing and you will see.
  • Julie - In Reply on Daniel 11 - 4 years ago
    Please check out AmazingFacts.org for better clarity.
  • Michael Garrison - In Reply on Daniel 11 - 5 years ago
    I am thankful that The Millenium will put all souls on the same page when it comes to understanding The True Word. Then you'll know that these words "ships of Chittim" refer to Father's elect. With what the sheep are being taught today it's hard to believe that the elect ARE HERE RIGHT NOW. So stand aside with your self-doubt and watch a Man of God in action!!!!!
  • Michael Garrison - In Reply on Daniel 11 - 5 years ago
    Amen. Right on my brother.
  • Jonas Teuma on Daniel 11 - 5 years ago
    Everyone, please checkout the sites endtimestruth.com, signs-of-end-times.com, and end-times-prophecy.org, also checkout the youtube videos "Daniel unsealed: World history's response to biblical prophecy" and "Turkey and Islam to invade Jerusalem? Sign of the end!"
  • Anna on Daniel 11 - 6 years ago
    Daniel was told to seal it up. John was told to unseal it. Revelation was written to Bondservants at the END. REV 1:1;9; 1 Pet 4:7
    The old covenant was conditional n had curses that had to be enforced: sword, famine, woes, plagues, sorrows, tears, beasts, DEATH, n it did not annul or supercede the eternal covenant, the promised SEED, the Messiah. Gal 3:17. ALL things have been made new.
  • Edward Palamar on Daniel 11 - 6 years ago
    The error of ascribing moving the word "vile" from verse 20 to verse 21 began with the printing of the Coverdale Bible in 1535 A.D.
  • Edward Palamar on Daniel 11 - 6 years ago
    Originally the word "vile", found in verse 21 both here and in most Bibles, was in verse 20 it was a modifier to the middle of the three kings of the north, verses 19-21. Only the Wycliffe and the Douay-Rheims versions retain this accurate description. I witnessed the rape incest of the king of verse 20 upon the wife of the king of verse 19 while in her womb, being the king of verse 21.
  • Lorin on Genesis 1 - 7 years ago
    Bruce,The truth of Salvation always touches my heart.We live in a world where hatred is on the rise. Matt 24 10-12. I have been confronted by people I love say the creation story of Christians and the book they read is a flat out lie.It is turning millinials away in the groves.I know I will not win the battle Daniel 7:25 Daniel 8:24 Daniel 11: 36 -39.I hope for either Matt 24 :13 or Luke 21:36
  • Word 76 on Daniel 11 - 7 years ago
    The ships of chittim know what's being said in this chapter and who, what, when, where, why, and what's going on in these verses of the abomination of desolation spoken of. They will make him grieve, won't you, and you will make your stand.
  • A disciple on Daniel 11 - 7 years ago
    One of the hardest to understand portions of Scripture! There are some parts that seem to ring familiar, with respect to current events and people in the world, and to those things which show the purposes in God's working His strange works among men, to bring about the end. I don't know if it serves us well to try to guess about "who" these persons might be; as the Lord will show us in due time.
  • Word on Daniel 11 - 7 years ago
    only one vile one that's Satan. This book is an overlay of the Revelation. Bible student know. It ain't hard if you know the scriptures. Anyway the vile one is coming and people have been taught that Satan comes with a loaded gun and a mean army. Satan comes disguised as a messiah, acts like God, says he is and does supernatural tricks, looks just like the Lamb but it's the dragon. All deception.
  • Sabbath keeper and Wife on Daniel 11 - 8 years ago
    This chapter covers alot of history from Persian empire to Alexander, to his four generals to pagan Rome with the Emperors then to papal Rome
  • Sabbath keeper and Wife on Daniel 11 - 8 years ago
    It was actually unsealed in 1844. This is when a man figured out the 70 wk prophecy. It was sweet as honey in the mouth because it was.. really cool. It was bitter in the belly because he misread the very end and thought Christ was coming back the same year. There was about a quarter million folks who gave everything they had away standing in a big field. It's called The Great Disappointment
  • Word on Daniel 11 - 8 years ago
    Bryan this book is for the end times. Written about, told about, sealed up for the end. The history might be but it is speaking to prepare us for what is coming.


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