Discuss Deuteronomy 32

  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set. ( Proverbs 22:28)

    Deuteronomy 32:8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.

    With these two verses; it is clear that there were distinct areas allotted for the nations from the beginning which God established.

    It would appear that at least a type and pattern of the children of Israel was in this plan; even though this would have been apparently before the flood. This principle it would seem from Proverbs was to be more or less continued after the flood when sadly once again nations were corrupted rapidly worshipping idols and performing child sacrifice as a common ritual. The Lord did have Melchizedek as an early Godly priest who was mysteriously outside the genealogy of the rest of Israel but so great that Abraham himself tithed to him.

    Many in the West today are ignorant on history; and aren't aware how often we as "Colonialists" redefined the boundaries in the Middle East; although it is one of the talking points today. Naturally the main focus of support for Hamas is insane for several reasons; as they don't want a "2 State Solution" and indeed they were the biproduct of displacement from Arab groups in the past; and of course surrounding nations such as Egypt most recently don't want them in the past. The point on that subject relates to this topic in that God did establish Israel and it's borders in it's covenant; as offended as many may be if Israel has land from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan; its actual boundaries scripturally extend all the way to the Euphrates and would encompass much or all of Jordan; and parts of other nations in that area today.

    Issues in this regard have fostered centuries of conflict between Russia and surrounding nations; and China vs Japan as 2 examples. History repeats itself ( Ecclesiastes 1:9).
  • Elfleda - In Reply - 7 months ago
    I'm not sure I understand what's going on since that is not how I interpreted the passage.

    Deuteronomy 32:8 is part of the Song of Moses, correct?

    'When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the

    people according to the number of the children of Israel.'

    It continues in verse 9:

    'For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.'

    I understood this passage to mean that God divided the entire human race into 12 distinct groups and that each of the 12 groups had a guardian angel and that Jacob's offspring were looked after by god himself or that this specifically the "inheritance" referred to Jesus.

    The reason why I interpreted the scripture like this is because we know that in Genesis 10, it describes the distribution of people according to Noah's three sons. Ham, Shem and Japheth. Until the creation of the modern anthropological races, it was generally understood that Ham was the ancestor of black people, Shem was the ancestor of Asians and Japheth was the ancestor of white people due to the original populations of the locations mentioned.

    Returning to Deuteronomy 32:8 this would indicate (to me) that each set of people descended from Noah's sons were subdivided into 4 more ethnic groups. So the Israelites would be a specific subset of Shemites.

    The number 12 is quite important in the bible. Jesus had 12 disciples. The number 12 is used in the planning of the new Jerusalem in Revelation 21, for example there are twelve gates with twelve angels with the names of each of the twelve tribes of Israel written on them, verse 12, there are 12 fountains, verse 14, the city is adorned with 12 types of precious stone, verse 19-20 and the gates are made of twelve pearls, verse 21.

    I don't see any evidence for your suggestion.
  • Blessed90 - In Reply - 8 months ago
    "Vengeance is mine," ( Deuteronomy 32:35) Please read that verse. Trust God with your career and family. I don't know what "other things" is, but it is never ok for someone to threaten and harass you. I think you should go to the school board and tell it all, there are other schools who need teachers. Plus, if your family is under stress due to this, why not take a chance and speak up? You deserve better as a teacher and human being. I hope this help, and I will be praying for you and your family. You are covered in the blood of Jesus.
  • Richard H Priday - 8 months ago
    Revelation series focusing on God's destruction rather than those of the world's armies: SEALS 2-4

    INTRODUCTION

    I am going to continue with the second through the fourth seal of Revelation here. My purpose is not to nit pick about every time death occurs because of man's weapons of war or whether it is by other means. The overall emphasis is to show how all the future events are ultimately controlled by the Lord and in a sense "choreographed" that way. Indeed; whatever the means surely the time of Jacob's trouble will be like no other in terms of the level of destruction on the earth. ( Jeremiah 30:7; Matt. 24:21).

    Since this is the case; we can't just look at statistics here to determine how awful things will be. That is clear from seeing that just EIGHT souls were saved on Noah's ark. Clearly there are many more than that; albeit a small percent of the earth at large that survives to repopulate in the Millennium. The demonic release "en masse" from the bottomless pit and probably other places in the underworld is what makes it so horrible as they will clearly be tormenting men by the 5th Trumpet. The giant hybrids of Noah's day were destroyed but we never saw a time of such horrible devastation by agents of evil as is to come.

    War famine and pestilence

    Deuteronomy 32:24-25 states: I will send wasting famine against them, consuming pestilence and deadly plague;

    I will send against them the fangs of wild beasts, the venom of vipers that glide in the dust.

    25 In the street the sword will make them childless; in their homes terror will reign.

    These themes of war; famine and pestilence are rife throughout the Old Testament in Ezekiel; and several passages in Jeremiah along with the solemn warnings of Matthew 24 and of course Revelation which we are discussing now. (also see Luke 21:11).

    God has judged this way as we see from the passages in Jeremiah in the past in order to take vengeance on the idolatry of Israel. The same thing will happen again.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Adam

    First I must say that questions as such"why God kills or asks others to kill, despite "do not kill",are made by many atheists that were members of the SDA,but now turned demonic atheists.

    They well know the letter of the Bible and now use it in their demonic posts to deny GOD and to contradict His Word.In fact they are killers,killers of souls.

    They know that when GOD said to the people of Israel through Moses," do not kill", it had already passed around 2500 years(two days and half of GOD's work),and the commandment was exclusively for the people of GOD,Israel. It was given in the OT, not in the NT,very different of the OT. See, GOD was creating a new environment for His seed, descendants of Abraham, when He brought His people out of Egypt. GOD separated His people Israel from the midst of the Gentilic peoples, from the midst of the idolaters and murderers peoples, actually He divided waters from the waters- Genesis 1:6-10-and then appeared the dry land-Israel.

    Now see,around 2500 years before GOD's commandment Cain had killed Abel.Who commanded Cain do it?It was not GOD,so who? It was the father of Cain,the Devil,a former Cherub,former ruler of Eden,also father of the current atheists and false Christianity and others adherents of devilish religions.

    In the other hand,after GOD brought Israel from Egypt and placed the people in the Promised Land,there GOD established the Law and rules to discipline the people and free them from all the SATANIC influence they carried with them from the Gentile, specially from the Egyptians and their satanic idolatries.Desobedience, i.e. witchcraft,it would be punished in the Promised Land,even to the death penalty(Compare: Luke 12:4 and Deuteronomy 32:39.By the way,GOD IS GOD).

    This battle started when the Cherub which GOD have placed as a ruler of Eden(now called SON OF PERDITION and MAN OF SIN,the Devil and Satan)planned to USURP GOD's creation and to create a specific world for he himself- Matthew 4:8-9.

    GOD BLESs
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Hi Adam.

    Man is incapable of knowing how Holy and Just God is and we're also incapable of knowing how evil man is apart from the restrainer.

    We see a picture of the evil of man in Revelation when the nations take up war against the Lord.

    Also look at the evil condition of their heart here in Revelation 16:9-11 while being tormented.

    Also see Psalms 2:1-12.

    Romans 11:33 states. "O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

    God gives life and he can take it!

    The trouble with atheist is that they don't believe God gave life!

    They have no understanding of deity.

    See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.

    If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me. Deuteronomy 32:39.

    God gives and he takes away.

    God bless.
  • Koosees - 1 year ago
    My question is it literal or figurative?

    Is says earth, most cases referring to the ground we walk on. Did God divide the earth as in the continents or placed them in land already separated (continents) as they are today? Like the world, 5 Hebrew translations, 3 Greek. Earth though all refer to the ground, dirt, soil in all three translations.

    1 Chronicles 1:19 - And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of the one was Peleg; because in his days the earth was divided: and his brother's name was Joktan.

    Genesis 10:25

    "And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan."

    Genesis 10:32 - These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.

    Genesis 11:16-19 - And Eber lived four and thirty years, and begat Peleg:And Eber lived after he begat Peleg four hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters.And Peleg lived thirty years, and begat Reu:And Peleg lived after he begat Reu two hundred and nine years, and begat sons and daughters.

    Deuteronomy 32:8 - When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.

    Luke 3:35-36 - Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,

    Acts 17:26 - And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    God's plans for the nations

    When examining the nations after the flood and during the failed attempt to build the tower of Babel everyone spoke one language until God Himself confused it (see Genesis 10:7-9). This was associated with the geographic breaking of the continents it would appear; or perhaps there was passage along the Alaskan peninsula when it was still covered with ice to allow Asiatic peoples to cross over. There have been people that seem to treace to Egypt as well who were mentioned a few generations ahead of Eber; and it is surmised some may have come over on ships. Genesis 10:25 states

    "One was named Peleg, because in his time the earth was divided; his brother was named Joktan." (these were the sons of Eber). The general spiritual understanding of most cultures holds on to an original concept of God and stories of a worldwide flood are universal throughout the continents. These are known as the "Epic of Gilgamesh" in the Mideast; and with different characters of 8 persons in the Chinese legends; for example. Hebrew has been said to be traced perhaps to the original language; I find it interesting that some of the characters appear to be pictures and some are letters. The eastern languages tended to have pictorial representations; but there are many complex variations in the Americas among a plethora of different Indian nations. Stories also are universal describing races of giants; which match up with the many giants before and after the flood in scripture ( Gen. 6:4); see also Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim).

    Proverbs 23:10 states "Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless". Another word for landmark is "boundary stones." Deuteronomy 32:8 states: "When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel."
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 1 year ago
    OSAS. True spiritual gifts vs false manifestations.

    1 Corinthians 2:14 says: "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

    Deuteronomy 32:28-29 states "For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them. O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!"

    There are many reasons people may go to church and not be believers; a general statement would be there are many confessors but less who are POSSESSORS of the Holy Spirit. Focusing on earlier posts discussing how Satan focuses his attacks on the church we need in general to see how Satan is not only opposed to God but comes as s substitute; and mimics every spiritual gift in outward manifestations that may appear to be the same to the undiscerning (such as listed in 1 Corinthians 2:14 above).

    As to spiritual manifestations; the "Kundalini" experience often mimics what are true spiritual experiences. We see mention in past revivals of people shaking or trembling at His Word which is scriptural ( Isaiah 66:2). But certain ritualaistic manifestations

    cause abandon (usually coiling up like a snake on the floor). Godly sorrow certainly can cause weeping as was reported in many revivals from the past; uncontrollable laughter however is not something that seems edifying. Tongues of angels certainly can be imitated by demons as evidenced by experiences of those in the occult.

    In looking at these "charismatic" gifts; we shoiuldn't ignore the "religious" spirit which involves endless ritual and legalistic practices that exceed the scope of the Word. The Pharisees added things with their traditions ( Mark 7:13 and other verses) and this was associated with pride; self righteous and leading others astray. (see Matthew 23:15). The opposite of this is using grace as a license to sin which Romans 6:1 warns about.
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Tribulation: Purposes of the Seal Judgments as related to Israel's history.

    The sword; famine and pestilence seen in judgments 2-4 in Revelation 6 fit in with a pattern set by God to judge Israel since most of their history was in a rebellious state despite being called to be an example to the nations ( Isaiah 49:6) and set apart ( Jeremiah 2:2-3). The pattern of sword; famine and pestilence can therefore be seen in Jeremiah 14:11-12 as well as other passages in the same book; and it found in Ezekiel 14:21; Deuteronomy 32:24; and other passages. Interestingly enough; Deuteronomy 4:30 mentions tribulation AND the last days; opening the door for repentance on man's part for God to turn back on some of these judgments (perhaps for individuals sealed by God or physically protected at that time and/or during the Trumpet judgments).

    Therefore; this time before the Book is opened there appears to be room for repentance; although nothing said for the unregenerate where one quarter die at that time ( Rev. 6:8). It would appear since Hades is in Revelation 6:8 that everyone killed in this manner were unregenerate. The only question is if these are concentrated in a quarter of the earth or it involves one fouth of the world in general. We should also be soberly reminded here that many will not even physically survive to the point when the Beast is empowered and implements the mark ( Rev. 11:7) apparently after the martyrdom of the 2 Prophets and subsequent Resurrection at the 6th Trumpet ( Rev. 11:14).

    The Antichrist at this time will rise to power ( Revelation 6:1-2) and begin to subdue and conquer nations. Daniel 8:9 shows how this "little horn" gains power; no doubt through superior intellect and intrigue ( Daniel 11:21). Nations no doubt are pitted so that they will through internal strife be conformed to the 10 nations ruled under the Beast after their sovereignty is destroyed.

    I will delve into the fifth and sixth seal in my next sequel.

    Agape. RICH P
  • Goodgraft on Psalms 82 - 1 year ago
    When the Lord divided the nations at the time of the Tower of Babel ( Deuteronomy 32:8). And claimed (the as yet future) Israel as His own ( Deuteronomy 32:9). He assigned other Elohim, members of the Divine Council, (congregation of the mighty), ie created intelligences, (angels) as stewards over the other nations.

    Those lesser gods, (because there is only ONE Most High God), did not fulfill their purpose in protecting and preserving the knowledge of the one true God and leading men back to Himself. But rebelled instead, by leading the people of the nations into idolatry and the worship of themselves. Thereby forcing God to judge and condemn them to die like men.

    It is those Elohim that God is speaking to in Psalm 82. Not human judges or rulers.

    That is my opinion which is based upon the teachings of the late and highly respected biblical scholar Dr. Michael S Heiser.

    "Dr. Heiser attained an MA in Ancient History from the University of Pennsylvania, and an MA and PhD in the Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, where he minored in Classical studies. Dr. Heiser received his Bachelor's degree from Bob Jones University and also attended Bible college for three years."
  • Duncan - In Reply on Acts 15:20 - 1 year ago
    Part 3

    -Therefore, Jesus Christ the son of God could not be born to the Hindus for they worship Idols neither to the Romans and the greeks even unto the Africans and the Australian aboriginals or any other tribe or nation of the world for all had a form of Ido worshiping including the Brittanica tribes

    For there is one God who is living and there is none like Him from the heavens and to the earth as it is written in

    Deuteronomy 32:39

    See now that I, even I, am He, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: Neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    -God created from Abraham a new nation and guided them with the law and setting them apart and district from all the tribes of the world and from Abraham's children we have the 12 son of Jacob who later multiply and becomes a Great nation and still unique and not integrating with the rest of the world and even after their exile in 70Ad by the romans. who changed their lands name from isreal to Palestine they still remained a unique nation. While they were scattered across the world and Europe and by the fulfilment of God's word written in the Book of Jeremiah the prophet, the nation of Israel was reborn back into exitance in 1948.

    -Therefore, Jesus Christ the son of the living God was born form the Jews and died on the cross in Israel and rose and acceded in Heaven still a Jew and He is the Lion of the tribe of Judah and forevermore Amen salvation is from the Jews. anyone who is not a Jew is called a Gentile.

    it is written in John 4:22

    22.Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

    I pray that God will touch your heart for understand Amen

    it is written in Acts 2:38

    Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you again David0921. Clearly, we don't agree on the meaning of God's Authorship of the Bible; i.e. we believe that the Bible is God's Word, but your belief is that every word or phrase given therein matches what God had spoken. To this I disagree, so we will need to leave that matter out.

    You asked, "who decides when God is using hyperbole (language)?" Well to answer that, I would have to say, that I, the reader would, because I, the reader am expected to read God's Word, understand it & digest it. If I can convince myself that camels can go through a needle's eye or a great many good believers staying true to the Word, are walking amongst us with a gouged out right eye, then yes, every Word in the Bible must be understood literally. Hopefully, I have been blessed with a little common sense, and so I refuse to be swayed with nonsense.

    You shared from Romans 3:10-18. Yes, man's spiritual condition is really that bad, but do we in our wicked state have the poison of asps under our tongues or all our throats resemble open sepulchres. We should understand the state & extent of their wickedness, but the use of metaphors is quite normal to drive the meaning home. So is God "exaggerating for effect rather than stating a fact? On this passage, I would say that as Paul took reference to Psalm 5:9 & somewhat to Deuteronomy 32:32,33, Paul confirmed what has always been man's unregenerate state, where all these references have used metaphors for effect to highlight the fact.

    And yes, in Psalm 58:3 that is exactly what is implied: not a verbal language from a babe but from a sin-infected heart from birth. But the basic problem we have here is how much that we read is exactly what God has given for man to record & how much of it has man placed from his own knowledge & experience. The fact that God has allowed all of it shows that Truth is what matters not the verbatim production of the Word, which could never happen.
  • T Levis - In Reply on 1 Thessalonians 5 - 1 year ago
    Habakkuk 3, in context

    Habakkuk 3:3, it is a prayer, proclaiming GOD's power. It appears to me that he is saying by evidence of GOD moving through Teman. As Judgement references Jeremiah 49:20, Ezekiel 25:13, Amos 1:12, Obediah 1, notice Genesis 36:15 Jeremiah 49:7, Edom named Esau same person, Teman was in his lineage.

    Notice also when examining Habakkuk 3:3, tap scripture then scroll down, you'll see the word used fof GOD is (elowah) it's same word used in Daniel 11:38, Deuteronomy 32:17, Habakkuk 1:1, seemingly significant as different than uses in the rest of scripture, as names of GOD.

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply on Deuteronomy 31 - 1 year ago
    The song seems to start with Deuteronomy 32:1-43, because Deuteronomy 32:44, indicates the end of the song.

    Hope this was helpful
  • Gerald - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Your first question is answered in your own reply .

    The Lord said " Thou art Peter a stone "

    Upon this rock what Rock? " Thou art the Son of the living God "

    2 Samuel 22:47

    Deuteronomy 32:31

    Psalm 62:7

    And many more all found on a search God is the rock on this very app.

    While any man can get it wrong for no man is infallible . Though some religionists foolishly claim otherwise . What does the scriptures say? "ALL scripture is given by inspiration if God and is good for correction reproof and instruction in righteousness "

    Taking ONE verse to build your case is not only unwise it will inevitably lead to error . Which is why the Roman church is now full of it .

    While you may be in doubt as with this one verse may mean .

    ALL of scripture clearly states GOD is that rock .

    Jesus being God manifested in the flesh it clearly means by the rest of scripture that it does not mean Peter but the Lord Himself .

    To hold to anything else in the light of the rest of scripture is simply foolish at best .

    At worse you judge ..
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 57 - 2 years ago
    Psalm 57. James 3:6 is one of the first things I notice a parallel to with verse 4. There are other verses describing animals prophetic of those surrounding Christ during the crucifixion in Psalm 22:12-13. Here in this Psalm we once again are given in the intro. the information that this was written during David's cave retreat as happened multiple times with Saul's insanity.

    We see crying in verse 2 and singing in verses 7-8; finally praise in verse 9 with the resulting appreciation of mercy and truth (v.10) with His name exalted in the last verse. These are solid Biblical approaches to persecution; as we see when Paul was incarcerated in Acts 16:25-28 along with Silas; it in fact led to deliverance.

    Ecclesiastes 9:12 and a host of other verses describe men being caught in nets due to their own sin. (see Job 18:5-9; Isaiah 24:18). "Vengeance is mine; I shall repay" is in Deuteronomy 32:35 and quoted in Romans 12:19. It is important to remember David's attitude toward "God's anointed" (see 1 Samuel 24). Even when Saul died David still mourned over him. This attitude of loving our enemies should characterize our lives while we still proclaim the truth that indeed the Day of His wrath is coming; and only through the cross will we escape.
  • Baker - In Reply on Psalms 49 - 2 years ago
    What the Bible says about Burning Bones of King of Edom ( From Forerunner Commentary ) Amos 2:1-3 Moab's major transgression was the result of a long-burning feud between Moab and Edom. Out of spite and anger, the Moabites dug up the bones of a long-dead Edomite king and threw them into a fire.

    This is another example of taking advantage of someone who is weak and defenseless. Can a corpse fight back? The principle here is that every sin has a boomerang. God noticed the sin, burning the bones of the king of Edom, and promised to avenge it ( Deuteronomy 32:35).
  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Please read: Psalms 94, Psalms 37, Psalms 7:15, Psalms 9:15, Deuteronomy 32:35,41,43,

    The scripture you're looking for Luke 11:45,52, context Luke 11, & Luke 14,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply on Isaiah 46 - 2 years ago
    Hello, Marilyn 'Lynn,

    It appears you're reading Isaiah 46. If you read Bel and the Dragon 1, in 1611 KJV, on this site, Deuteronomy 32:49, Jeremiah 48:1, Isaiah 46:1, may be easier.

    Please don't be discouraged, Isaiah to me is a very complex book. I am also having difficulty reading it & studying it this time. The Book of Isaiah seems to be best to read slowly with prayer for understanding. James 1:5,

    I also have been pausing to look deeper into the meanings of what's being said, by using the search options on this website. When we understand more about the names mentioned we sometimes understand more fully what GOD is saying through Isaiah. 2Timothy 2:15,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Chris - In Reply on Psalms 91 - 2 years ago
    You're correct Gerry, Almighty God doesn't have wings. But we do see instances of this metaphor being used, as in Psalm 91:1-4. We see it Psalm 17:8, Psalm 36:7, Psalm 61:4, Psalm 63:7 (Psalms of David); Deuteronomy 32:11,12; Malachi 4:2; and maybe others.

    As you look at these references, you will notice how the writers viewed the all-shadowing, all-protecting God over them. They might have considered the eagle gliding onto her nest with outstretched wings, and then when another bird of prey appeared to attempt an attack on the young, the mother eagle covered them with her wings - for protection & to keep them out of view. For that time in history, I think that the eagle represented a wonderful metaphor of God's concern & care to those who feared Him.
  • Ronnette on Deuteronomy 32 - 2 years ago
    What a great chapter to learn how great God we have. Glory to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ and peace to all living saints who are very much guided by the Holy Spirit of God.

    Galatians 1:12

    For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

    Be saved! 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

    Revelation 15:3-4 I love singing this song.

    And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

    Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

    Revelation 18:4

    And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    1 Timothy 5:15

    For some are already turned aside after Satan.
  • Anthony Mazio - In Reply - 2 years ago
    'There is more Scripture objectively condemning the use of alcoholic beverages than will be found on the subjects of lying, adultery, swearing, cheating, hypocrisy, pride, or even blasphemy.

    1) Genesis 9:20-26 - Noah became drunk; the result was immorality and family trouble.

    2) Genesis 19:30-38 - Lot was so drunk he did not know what he was doing; this led to immorality

    3) Leviticus 10:9-11 - God commanded priests not to drink so that they could tell the difference between the holy and the unholy.

    4) Numbers 6:3 - The Nazarites were told to eat or drink nothing from the grape vine.

    5) Deuteronomy 21:20 - A drunken son was stubborn and rebellious.

    6) Deuteronomy 29:5-6 - God gave no grape juice to Israel nor did they have intoxicating drink in the wilderness.

    7) Deuteronomy 32:33 - Intoxicating wine is like the poison of serpents, the cruel venom of asps.

    8) Judges 13:4, 7, 14 - Samson was to be a Nazarite for life. His mother was told not to drink wine or strong drink.

    9) 1 Samuel 1:14-15 - Accused, Hannah said she drank no wine.

    10) 1 Samuel 25:32-38 - Nabal died after a drunken spree.

    11) 2 Samuel 11:13 - By getting Uriah drunk, David hoped to cover his sin.

    12) 2 Samuel 13:28-29 - Amnon was drunk when he was killed.

    13) 1 Kings 16:8-10 - The king was drinking himself into drunkenness when he was assassinated

    14) 1 Kings 20:12-21 - Ben-Hadad and 32 other kings were drinking when they were attacked and defeated by the Israelites.

    15) Esther 1:5-12 - The king gave each one all the drink he wanted. The king was intoxicated when he commanded the queen to come.

    16) Psalm 75:8 - The Lord's anger is pictured as mixed wine poured out and drunk by the wicked.

    17) Proverbs 4:17 - Alcoholic drink is called the wine of violence.

    18) Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging.

    19) Proverbs 23:19-20 - A wise person will not be among the drinkers of alcoholic beverages.

    20) Proverbs 23:21 - Drunkenness causes poverty.

    21) Proverbs 23:29-30 -
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Sister Kay:

    Hell: the Hebrew word sheol, a place of no perception were the dead go, the grave.

    Deuteronomy 32:22 For a fire is kindled in my anger .....

    Is this fire literal, started with a match, of the fire of the Lord.

    Luke 12:49 And I have come to send fire on the earth; and what will I (be), if it (the fire) already be kindled?

    Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

    Luke 12:50 And I have a baptism (fire), to be baptised with, and how am I straitened till it BE ACCOMPLISHED.

    Matthew 3:11 ...he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and fire.

    1 Corinthians 3:15 .....but he himself shall be save, as yet by fire.

    Psalms 86:13 For great is thy (the Father's) mercy toward me (Christ): and thou (the Father) shall deliver my (Christ's) soul (body) from the lowest hell (sheol, the grave).

    Isaiah 5:14 Therefore hell (sheol, the grave) hath enlarged herself, and open her mouth without measure ....

    Mark 9:43

    I have never seen a Christian that believed these verses, if they are literal, otherwise they would have cut off their hands and feet to keep from going to hell.

    It's an analogy.

    You believe in a literal heaven and a literal hell.

    Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the REMOVING of those (literal and physical) things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things (SPIRIT) which cannot be shaken remain.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Kay - In Reply on Ecclesiasticus 12:6 - 2 years ago
    Calvin are you thinking of Romans 12?

    19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

    This Paul quotes from Deuteronomy 32:35.

    Hope this helps!

    Blessings!
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Colossians 1 - 2 years ago
    James 1:5, Matthew 7:7-14, Matthew 21:21-22, Matthew 10:1,8,

    Deuteronomy 32:39, 2Kings 20:5,

    2Chronicles 7:14,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    This is a fascinating thing. I heard a sermon one time saying the words spoken about "if someone sees the face of GOD they cannot live" he said "they cannot live, the same" Is this the question you're looking deeper into? Genesis 32:20,30, Exodus 33:11, Exodus 34:28-30,35,

    It would be very interesting to do a study on the words. Exodus 3:6, Exodus 33:20,23, Numbers 6:25, Deuteronomy 5:1-5, Deuteronomy 31:17,18, Deuteronomy 32:20, Deuteronomy 34:10, Judges 6:22, 1Kings 13:6, 1Chronicles 16:11, 2Chronicles 7:14, 2Chronicles 30:9, Psalms 13:1, Psalms 17:5, Psalms 22:24, Psalms 105:4, Isaiah 54:8, Isaiah 59:2, Jeremiah 21:10, Ezekiel 20:35,

    Perhaps it's the word "man" that the emphasise is. Romans 8:14, Galatians 4:6, Hebrews 12:7, John 1:12, Philippians 2:15, 1John 3:1,2 , 1John 4:15, How sad it is when a living father says "see his face no more" or turns his face.

    Genesis 3:8-10, interestingly, in this translation it says they heard "the voice of the LORD" they "hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God"

    What's amazing is: Genesis 4:16, it appears even though they were cast out of the garden GOD's presence was still with them.

    Psalms 139, Job 4:15,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Genesis 4:1, Genesis 4:16,23,24,

    Genesis 4:25,26, Genesis 5:1-3, Genesis 5, Genesis 6:1-13, Genesis 7, & 8, Genesis 9:8-9, Hebrews 11:1-7, 1John 3:12,

    Romans 5:14, 1Corinthians 15:45, Deuteronomy 32:8, Matthew 3:21-38, Romans 5:14, 1Corinthians 15:22,45,

    Jude 1,
  • Suze - In Reply on Deuteronomy 32 - 2 years ago
    You seem to be a bit obsessed with sodomy , there are very many other sins , the older you get the more you recognise them . Some are very subtle , cold heartedness , selfishness , cruelty , aggression , jealousy , vengefulness , manipulations , it's a long list . We are all sinners , maybe not sodomites but still sinners . Turning your eyes away from someone who needs your help . That's a bad one I think . We are all guilty of something pretty much everyday . If we think we aren't we are fooling ourselves , we can't fool God .
  • Marke on Deuteronomy 32 - 2 years ago
    Deu 32: 29-33

    29 O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!

    30 How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the Lord had shut them up?

    31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.

    32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:

    33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.

    Who are these enemies of God? In America they are politicians, judges, educators, scientists, medical professionals, businessmen, and so forth. They do not know the Lord and they do not do good. Christians live in a world that is mostly hostile to God and Christians. Notice especially the reference to Sodomites, who are very popular in modern times among the wicked all around us.


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