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There are degrees of punishment:

" For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains." Deuteronomy 32:22

" And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." Luke 12:47-48

" But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you." Matthew 11:22

" And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." Revelation 20:13

Hey Benjamin,

I agree with S Spencer and Noel, for those of us who have heard of Jesus and are called and have accepted Jesus as our savior the answer would be no.

I would like to give my understanding; God is a loving God Zephaniah 3:17 God will help and strengthen us Isaiah 41:10 God is just and upright Deuteronomy 32:4 and God is love and merciful Ephesians 2:4.

There are millions of people who lived and died before Jesus first came, and millions who have lived and died since who have never heard who Jesus is and what He offers. What happens to them? Everyone who is alive today and all who have lived in the past has the knowledge of good and evil thanks to the first Adam.

The white throne judgment many teach is only for the lost and unrighteous, my understanding is different. In Revelation 20:11-15 all the rest of the dead is judged, small and great and the books were open, and they were judged from the things written in the books, according to their works. In verse 15 it says this, "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire". Along with other scriptures, my understanding is there were some names in the book of life.

God only knows, some scripture gives a clue, People under the law being judged by the law and those who do by nature the things contained in the law not under the law (judged from the things written in the books) Romans 2:12-15, and if the white throne judgment is for lost only, how do we understand these verses, Daniel 12:2 Matthew 25:32-46 John 5:28-29 Acts 24:14-15.

God bless,

RLW

* 1Peter 5:8, Proverbs 20:1, Proverbs 23:29-35, Ephesians 5:18,

1Thessalonians 5:5-10, 1Timothy 3:2,11, Titus 1:8, Titus 2, 1Peter 1:13, 1Peter 4:7, Leviticus 10:9, Leaders, priests, Numbers 6:2-4,

There are a two stories in Genesis that shows negative results.

Deuteronomy 32:33, Proverbs 21:17, Isaiah 5:10-23, Isaiah 28:7,

Proverbs 31:4-7,

Hopefully these are helpful

Healing scriptures: Deuteronomy 32:39, 2Kings 20:5, 2Chronicles 7:14, James 5:14, Hosea 6:1, Matthew 10:1-8, Mark 3:14-15, Luke 4:18, Luke 9:2, Mark 1:15, Mark 9:23, Mark 11:23,24,

Luke 4:40, Mark 16:17-18,

Luke 10:9, Jeremiah 17:14,

Here are some, hope they help

Perhaps these relate : Joel 2:23, but read in context: Joel 2, Amos 4:7, context again: Amos 4,

Hosea 6:3, Psalms 72:6, Proverbs 16:15, Hosea 10:12,

Maybe : * Deuteronomy 32:2,

Hopefully this is helpful

Rev. 19:13 = This blood is not CHRIST's own that HE shed during HIS crucifixion. No, this blood is the blood of CHRIST's enemies that HE will draw during Armageddon. Verse fifteen speaks of CHRIST treading the winepress (see also 14:20). Deuteronomy 32:14 describes the juice of the grape as blood. Interpret the graphic language to mean CHRIST will violently attack HIS enemies with such force that HE will splatter their blood on HIS vesture with such abundance that it will become soaked and dripping.

All soldiers experienced in combat, and all who study war, know that soldiers often bloody themselves with the blood of those they kill. When JESUS CHRIST engages in the Battle of Armageddon, HE intends to save no one, nor take prisoners, for HE battles to slaughter the armies of the Antichrist without mercy. Even Revelation 19:21 describes CHRIST ensuring HE kills every last one of the Antichrist's rebellious armies: "the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth ..." The blood drenching HIS vesture is that of HIS enemies.

Isaiah 63:1-4 describes JESUS CHRIST fighting Armageddon. Isaiah recorded that prophecy in the prophetic perfect tense. In verse one, Isaiah asks, "WHO is THIS that comes from Edom, with dyed {bloodied} garments from Bozrah?" The mentioning of Edom and Bozrah suggests Armageddon is a series of battles culminating in Armageddon. The PERSON in question is The MESSIAH/CHRIST.

In verse two, Isaiah asked another important question: "Wherefore art THOU red in THINE apparel, and THY garments (including HIS vesture) like him that treadeth in the winefat?" This question accepts the fact that when one stomps grapes in the wine press, he traumatically expels the "blood of the grape" (Deu. 32:14) resulting in splattering the wine presser's clothing with grape juice. This metaphor proves that the blood drenching CHRIST's vesture is not HIS Own, but that of HIS enemies.

Jeremiah 48:35-47, Jeremiah 49, Ezekiel 1, Ezekiel 10, Ezekiel 17, Revelation 4, Revelation 12,

Deuteronomy 28:49, Deuteronomy 32:11, Daniel 7, Hosea 8:1, Habakkuk 1,

In the Apocrypha

2 Esdras 11, 12, I didn't find what was discussed in what I read.

Hopefully these are helpful.

You can search more scripture relating to Lion & Eagle in search tab on KJV Bible page.

Little g gods are usually fake gods most never living, therefore not alive therefore dead.

Judges 10, Jeremiah 16, Deuteronomy 6, Exodus 20:23, Jeremiah 2:11,

1 Corinthians 8:1-6, John 10:34-38,

Acts 14, man shouldn't be worshipped.

Jesus the Son of GOD, Matthew 26:62-64, THE MESSIAH our SAVIOUR, Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, John 19, "The Way" died & arose from the grave, 1 Samuel 2:6, Revelation 2:8, Deuteronomy 32:39, John 3:15-16,

* Luke 20:38,

I serve GOD ALMIGHTY, Jeremiah 10:10, Revelation 1, Revelation 21, Rev 22, The Alpha & Omega Revelation 1:8, Genesis 1, Psalms 103:17, Mark 12:27, Matthew 22:32, Psalms 42:4, Psalms 90:2, Hebrews 10:31, 1 Timothy 4:10,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study.

If you want to read about the account & additional scriptures leading up to it. Numbers 20:12,23, Numbers 27:12-23, Deuteronomy 31,

Deuteronomy 32:45-52, Deuteronomy 33:1, Deuteronomy 34:1-8, Jude 1:9,

Hopefully these are helpful

Please read:

Jeremiah 9:23-25, Zephaniah 1:9,

Promise of punishment to Hebrews if they did not reform; Leviticus 26:23-25, Amos 3:2,

GOD's punishment; Jeremiah 44:13, Hosea 12:2,

Ezekiel 25:14,17, Jeremiah 51:11,36,37, Psalms 94:1, Jeremiah 50:15,18, Luke 21:22, Isaiah 63:4, Micah 5:15, Isaiah 61:2, Psalms 149:7, Jeremiah 11:20, Isaiah 47:3, Isaiah 34:6-9, Psalms 99:6-9, Ezekiel 25:12,

Isaiah 59:16-21, redemption & recompense, Jeremiah 51:6, Jeremiah 30:20, Zephaniah 1:8,

2 Thessalonians 6-9, Hope of GOD's recompense, it is "righteouss" Isaiah 35:4,

Romans 12:19, Hebrews 10:28-31, Deuteronomy 32:35,

Jude 1:5-7,

Nahum 1:2, ''GOD is furious"

Brother Chris, the three verse you referenced:

Deuteronomy 32:22 For a fire is kindled in my anger and shall burn unto the lowest hell (Heb. sheol) .....

Psalms 86:13 For great is thy mercy toward me: and you have delivered my soul from the lowest hell (Heb. sheol).

Ezekiel 31:15 Then said the Lord God, In the day when he went down to the grave (Heb. sheol) I caused a mourning, I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.

Ezekiel 31:16 I made the nation shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell (Heb. sheol) with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

Ezekiel 31:17 They also went down into hell (Heb. sheol) with him unto to them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.

These verse in Ezekiel is talking about Pharaoh and his army, Verse 15 says he went to the grave (sheol), but verses 16 and 17 says he went down to hell (sheol).

The same word can not we translated as two meaning, when it's describing the same event.

Good, you're at the right site. Start reading the WORD written inside by clicking the Books, I like Luke when I started that was great to show me as new study who Christ Jesus was, is & is to come. Hover over the scripture here, should bring you straight to it.

Luke 1:1-4, you can continue to read by clicking read full chapter the scroll down, click tab on edges to next chapter, etc. Many people enjoy Psalms, I didn't enjoy it as much as a new beginner study but do enjoy it much more now after years of study.

Psalms 1:1-3,

U may enjoy Exodus, which actually begins in Genesis 37:1-36, continues : Genesis 39:1-23, Genesis 40:1-23, Genesis 41:1-57, Genesis 42:1-38, Genesis 43:1-34, Genesis 44:1-34,

[Note this scripture chapter 44, Genesis, if you noticed we skipped Genesis 38, because it jumps from Joseph to Judah. Now if you read Genesis 38:1-30, you can understand a few things on deeper level = Judah maybe knows painful loss of children at this point in his life & even the difference of love towards children of his "loved wife". Next very importance of Judah's sacrifice for others, resemblance of Jesus sacrifice being beloved Son of GOD. John 3:16, ]also interesting Tamar, bore to Judah the son in Jesus documented lineage Matthew 1:1-3]

Back to story : Genesis 45:1-28, (forgiveness), Genesis 46:1-34, Genesis 47:1-12 (Redemption) Genesis 47:27-31,

Now note: Genesis 47:13-26 , Genesis 12:1-3, Genesis 12:10, Genesis 12:11-16, * Genesis 12:13-20, Genesis 16:3, Genesis 16:6-11, Genesis 15:13-14, Genesis 21:8-21, my own opinion Deuteronomy 32:35-36, Romans 12:19.

These moments in Genesis leading up to how & why Israel came into bondage. Exodus 1:1-8, continue reading Exodus 1:22, please continue to read all of Exodus.

One more encouraging note :) Hebrews 11:22, Psalms 105:1-45,

Furthermore on this site under the 1611 Version tab you can scroll to see more history on the Bible.

Hopefully these inspire a new lifetime desire of deeper study

Brother Earl. As you've noticed, I don't often respond to your comments & to some others here, as our interpretation of Scriptures are noticeably divergent & I see no proper foundation on which to build a succinct discussion. And from this present thread, I note your reference to Sheol as pertaining to the grave, to which there is finality of human life. And true, if Sheol even carries the meaning of a Hell, there is little reference in the OT to any major suffering therein, though seems to indicate a place further than six feet below ground ( Deuteronomy 32:22; Psalm 86:13; Ezekiel 31:14-16).

But I would ask, as you clearly believe in the Gospel of our Lord, what do you believe that the death of Christ accomplished? And this question pertains to what God requires & also to the benefit of mankind.

Why I ask this supposedly simplistic question is because this matter came up some years ago when a couple of folk calling themselves Jehovah's Witnesses, spoke to me about the wonderful Paradise & freedom of suffering that awaits all men - & wouldn't I want to be a part of it? This matter soon progressed to a person's death & subsequent resurrection to enjoy this bounty from God. And this further progressed to the reality of Hell, to which they clearly don't subscribe to. And ultimately they stated that all the righteous ones (presumably those who followed Jehovah's Laws) would live in this paradise, whilst those who refused Him, would remain in the grave. I took them to task on this belief & they finally left without answer.

Without sharing the full matter here, I wonder if you see anything credible in that discussion, but especially, what did Christ's death accomplish, towards God & to man? And btw, Luke 16:26 was the Lord's Words, not man's.

Me again.. after reading further in John.

More of what Jesus has to say about him and God the Father being one in the same:

1. "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."

John 8:24 KJV

2. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death."

John 8:51 KJV - "This is another remarkable claim that only makes sense if Jesus is God, and is one with God the Father. Jesus promises eternal life to those who keep His word."

3. "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."

John 8:58 KJV - "With this dramatic phrase Jesus told them that He was the eternal God, existing not only during the time of Abraham but before unto eternity past. Jesus claimed to be the great I AM, the voice of the covenant God of Israel revealed at the burning bush ( Exodus 3:13-14). This is the third time in this chapter Jesus uses the phrase I AM ( John 8:24, 8:28, 8:58) The ancient Greek phrase is ego emi, which was the same term used in the Greek translation of the Old Testament in Jesus' day to describe the Voice from the burning bush. In using the phrase I AM, Jesus used a clear divine title belonging to Yahweh alone ( Exodus 3:13-14, Deuteronomy 32:39, Isaiah 43:10) and was interpreted as such by Jesus' listeners ( John 8:58-59). "I AM was recognized by the Jews as a title of deity." (Tenney)"

4. "Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he."

John 13:19 KJV

This song of Moses is given in the next chapter, Deuteronomy 32:1-43. Sometimes, to help God's Word to be held in memory in a better way & also to be passed onto succeeding generations, songs were employed.

Verse 39

See now that I am he , and there is no god with me : I kill and I make alive ; I wound , and I heal : neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand .

A word from the Lord to Moses

If you're enquiring about the meaning or use of this word, Jeshurun, then I share the following:

Jeshurun means 'upright one or blessed one'. It was a term of endearment applied to Jacob (Israel) as God's beloved, His special people. We see the word appearing in Isaiah 44:1,2; Deuteronomy 32:15, 33:5, 33:26,27.

Even though Israel often failed the God Who loved them dearly & provided for them, God still waited for them to return to Him & love Him instead of idols. God still through all this spiritual adultery, called them "Jeshurun".

THE WOMAN IN REVELATION 12.

Here's a verse that is widely debated. I think we can determine by looking at the description of her, and the series of events concerning her in Ch 12 and prophecies pointing to those events in the bible. "you'll need your bibles". VS 1, the description, "She was clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of 12 stars". If we go to Genesis 37:9-10. Joseph dreams and Jacob answers this one for us. Now compare the events in prophecy to Revelation 12. VS 2, She's travailing in birth pains, Isaiah 54:1-5. Is 66:7, ( BEFORE SHE TRAVAILED, SHE BROUGHT FORTH; BEFORE HER PAIN CAME, SHE BROUGHT FORTH A MAN CHILD.) Also look at Micah 4:10, and Micah 5:2-4. Revelation 12:14 say she was given 2 wings of a eagle, a phrase the Lord uses throughout the bible concerning Israel, Exodus 19:4' Isaiah 40:27-31. Deuteronomy 32:10-11. Look at Paul concerning the Israelites in Romans 9:5, "Whose are the fathers, and whom as concerning the flesh Christ came. THE WOMAN IS ISRAEL, Not the church. The church did not exist until after the child was born died on the cross raised the third day went to the father then gave the Holy Spirit to the believers. Thank you.

In reference to "why do Churches baptize in the Name of the Trinity?" They use Matthew 28:19 as their directive for doing so. Though I suppose, given the use of the Name of Jesus only for baptising (as according to the portions you have cited), then this too would be appropriate because of apostolic/early Church precedent.

The Letter to the Hebrews is essentially the author's goal to demonstrate the superiority of Jesus Christ & therefore, of Christianity, to the prophets (1:1-3), to the angels (1:4-2:18) and to Moses (3:1-6). The rest of the letter gives Christ's superiority by His Priesthood (5:1-10:39) and by His Own Power (11:1-13:19).

But looking at Hebrews 1:4: Jesus status as the Son of God was a far greater status to that of angels. To no angel did God say, "Thou art My Son, this day have I begotten Thee". And when the First begotten came into the world, God said, "And let all the angels of God worship Him". This the Hebrews writer took from Psalm 97:7 and Deuteronomy 32:43, from the Septuagint version, though not in the Hebrew/KJV. So the Name of Jesus, as also His Divine Birth, made Him far greater than that of angels, which some might have proposed Him to be ranked with. And this Jesus came in "the brightness of God's Glory & the express Image of His Person, after He Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right Hand of the Majesty on High" ( Heb 1:3). I don't see from these Scriptures, or anywhere else, that Jesus ever took on the Person of the Father, rather at present He is seated beside Him in Heaven. Are you thinking of a Scripture when suggesting "Jesus inherits his name from his father which was Kept Secret in the Old Testament but revealed in the New Testament"?

On DEUT. 32:36

The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).

The word 'Repent' in different forms (repent, repentance, repented, repentest, repenteth, repenting, repentings) is mentioned 110 times in the KJV, and means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. The word 'repent' used in the New Testament was translated from the Greek word "metanoeo", and means to change, transform, to think differently or reconsider.

It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH.

Comment: Sometimes you have to see a word in use (in the Bible) to see what it pertains to.

Vain has multiple uses.

Exodus 5:9

Let there more work be laid upon the men, that they may labour therein; and let them not regard vain words.

Leviticus 26:16

I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

Leviticus 26:20

And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits.

Deuteronomy 5:11

Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Deuteronomy 32:47

For it is not a vain thing for you; because it is your life: and through this thing ye shall prolong your days in the land, whither ye go over Jordan to possess it.

And they gave him threescore and ten pieces of silver out of the house of Baalberith, wherewith Abimelech hired vain and light persons, which followed him.

Judges 11:3

Then Jephthah fled from his brethren, and dwelt in the land of Tob: and there were gathered vain men to Jephthah, and went out with him.

1 Samuel 12:21

And turn ye not aside: for then should ye go after vain things, which cannot profit nor deliver; for they are vain.

1 Samuel 25:21

Now David had said, Surely in vain have I kept all that this fellow hath in the

Seems like the media pushes all the blame for racism on whites.

Why do they hate whites who printed Bibles and built churches? Europe and the USA did

Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

Revelation 1:14 - His [Jesus] HEAD head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass,

[Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN, not black] as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

I am curious if the Lord made a mistake when he put whites in Europe and blacks in Africa?

Deuteronomy 32:8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.

Greetings Peter And my god richly bless you! - Thank for YOUR INTELLIGENT reply!

I will try to address your quires as best I can - possibly not all in one email - If I do manage to - Well and good!

Firstly what do I think God would say to a person asking God "Do you hear my prayer?" I think he would have said - "Of course I hear your pray Peter! My Holy spirit dwells within you! I hear your every word speak, in prayer or ingest - Your every thought, and in fact, I know exactly how many breaths you have taken , and exactly how many you have left.

Do not think that you were stupid asking that question! - Even David in the many Psalms he wrote kept crying out "Hear my cry oh Father, hear my cry oh Lord. Even though the Lord had done many things for him,

I believe that the scripture "where two or more are gathered etc" is related to the prayer of agreement in the verse above

19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

I'm am not a bible teacher by any means But - I am sure this means that there is more power for God to act when two or more UNITE IN prayer As in -

Deuteronomy 32:30

How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the LORD had shut them up?

You see there is power in numbers - when people get together pray and do anything in the name of the Lord

But!

Even when you are alone God still hears you - Did he not enter you life when you asked for salvation?

Matthew 21:22

And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive, and you shall have them

Well Mate! I will leave it there for now and work through your questions slowly - you will hear from me tomorrow -

Gods blessings to you and your family

By the way - Where do you live?

Chris,

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The earth became a ruin, and the heavens ceased to give light, but neither were created by God in that manner because we know that; "as for God, His way is perfect" ( 2 Samuel 22:31, Psalms 18:30), also look at ( Deuteronomy 32:4, Jeremiah 10:12). Everything created by God is flawless and pure in how it was created, and there is nothing that is not subject to this fact. In other words, God would not create an earth void and formless and a black heaven to spend the next six days fixing what He messed up. God forbid!

Sorry, ended up being long anyway.

Remember that study I did called, THEY'RE OUT, and WE'RE IN now. Romans 3:29

We're in till the fullness of the Gentiles is accomplished? Romans 11:25-26

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this MYSTERY, Lest you should be wise in your own conceits; that BLINDNESS in part, is HAPPENED to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in (finished).

And so, all Israel Shall be Saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob (The Jews).

That's why I say that Gentiles are IN now.

The whole thing is DETAILED in Romans 11:7-11. Please read it!! Romans 10:2 and Romans 11:12, 15, 18-22 READ IT SLOW

There are some warnings in there if you are a Gentile. No boasting, no judging, no smirking. Just leave it alone!!!! Keep your salvation secure. No hateful commenting.

They are blinded. Their ears are closed up by God. Their eyes have scales on them. Why?? For us Christians!! " The Election"

Romans 10:19. Deuteronomy 32:21. Our love for Jesus is supposed to make them envious. What a happy, cheerful, non- judgmental Jesus Loving Bunch we are?!?!

Yes they are into all manner of idolatry and occultism mixed with Jewish ritualism. It has to have a lot of emptiness in it, if God is not speaking to you.

IT could happen to us if we can't learn (from scriptures above) to keep our yaps closed. We are WARNED.

If one person yaps, another person does; soon the whole neighborhood is barking and no one is listening to God!!

I think God would love it if we would get over our self-righteous, judgmentalness. They probably don't even know they are OUT.

I will not speak on this again. I'm dropping this ball... you pick it up.



I made banana bread. Come get a handful.

Hi Carlos, just because God is self sufficient doesn't mean He can't make stuff if He wants. He also doesn't owe us an explanation for WHY, nor are we entitled to know. However, He already said He made us for his glory in Isaiah 43:7.

In my personal, unproven, and non-biblical opinion, I think we were made for His glory and enjoyment and that when we voluntarily with free will and faith choose to Love God and obey Him that it is a pleasure to Him. Perhaps it's like being a parent and if your kids voluntarily tell you they love you and you 100% know it's real, that you didn't coerce them to say that, and that they're not a puppet or robot under your own control. God didn't make robots. It's more meaningful if people voluntarily choose to love.

Your other point was does God have a need to feel good about Himself? Probably not, but doing something that feels good doesn't automatically mean you're insecure about it or NEED it.

The Bible does indicate God does have human-like emotions/feelings, however, like Deuteronomy 32:16. And we're made in His likeness, which may include feelings.

Jeffrey, sometimes Israel is referred to as Jeshurun. Apparently, used affectionately with poetic connotation. (see also references to this name in Deut 33:5, 26; Isa 44:2).

The message in the passage you referred to, is that God has cared for His children, Israel, right from their beginning, feeding them the best of the earth had to offer. But they committed spiritual adultery & turned aside from the Lord, & so they are thus described in v15 (that they became lazy & insensitive to the things of God & turned to the gods of the nations).

Who did Jeshurun kick? Did Jeshurun kick Him out?

Deuteronomy 32:35-37
Psalm 37

Just a few,
Hopefully that's helpful

Moses was told by God to speak to the rock and water would come out. He hit the rock with his rod instead of obeying God. Water still came out of the rock but it was Moses sin in that he would not go over into the promise land but only see it and die.