Discuss Ecclesiastes 4

"Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." ( James 4:17). The book of James has been considered an annoyance to some die hard Calvinists as it emphasizes works as well as faith. For instance, it discusses Abraham being justified by works ( James 2:21) and Rahab ( James 2:25).

Sins; therefore can be of commission or omission. There are many exhortations in scripture; one of he most frightening is that cowards are named among other grievous sins as a group who will not inherit the Kingdom of heaven ( Rev. 21:8). Therefore; we are without excuse if we always "go along to get along" and if we desire to live a cloistered existence and not let our light shine before men we are not living as the Lord desires. During persecution; of course it takes wisdom at times especially when there are other family members involved as to when to speak and when not to. The other side of this equation is a lack of patience; where we become so fearful of our needs being provided that we aren't taking things into prayer and trusting His guidance. Jesus Himself at times withdrew Himself from the crowds; He knew there was the appointed time to die and didn't let all the other attempts on His life distract Him.

In all these things then; it truly is faith that allows us to work in His strength. James 2:26 is interesting with the analogy of a body without the spirit (human spirit) present is dead. All of our talk is empty without action which is prompted and motivated by our love for God having us keep His commandments ( John 14:15).

Also; it seems apparent that we should; more than ever keep the admonition in Hebrews 10:25. As a Body; a cord of two or three isn't easily broken ( Ecclesiastes 4:12). Helping a brother or sister in Christ really is helping ourselves as Christ lives in all the saints. The concept of being the hands and feet of God gives a tangible representation of heaven; which is more than an amorphous light or mist.

At first I was confused but when I read the cometary I got it much better understood it better

Some teach that based on interpretation of; Isaiah 42:7, 1Peter 3:18-19, Ecclesiastes 4:14-16, Psalms 142:7, Isaiah 53:7-12, Revelation 1:17-18, Matthew 12:38-45, Luke 11:29-32, Ephesians 4:8-10, Psalms 86:13, Acts 2:27,31, Psalms 16:10, but none of these are clearly stated nor defined so. Jonah 2:2,

Luke 16:22-31,

I guess my question is why?

Jesus has all authority: Luke 12:5, Luke 9:1, Mark 1:27, 1Corinthians 15:24, Matthew 28:18, Job 26:6, Psalms 139, Revelation 1:18,

Revelation 20, 2Peter 2:4,

Let's not divide over these issues, James 3:6,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study

* Proverbs 3:3-4: Let love and faithfulness never leave you; bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart. Then you will win favor and a good name in the sight of God and man.

* Romans 12:10: Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves.

* Genesis 2:18-25

* Isaiah 54:5: For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.

* Proverbs 30:18-19: There are three things that amaze me-no, four things that I don't understand: how an eagle glides through the sky, how a snake slithers on a rock, how a ship navigates the ocean, how a man loves a woman.

* Ruth 1:16-17: Entreat me not to leave you, Or to turn back from following after you; For wherever you go, I will go; And wherever you lodge, I will lodge; Your people shall be my people, And your God, my God. Where you die, I will die, And there will I be buried. The Lord do so to me, and more also, If anything but death parts you and me.

* 1 John 4:12: No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

* Hebrews 10:24-25: And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another-and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

* 1 Peter 4:8: Most important of all, continue to show deep love for each other, for love covers a multitude of sins.

* Ecclesiastes 4:12: Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

* Ephesians 5:33: However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

* Proverbs 10:12: Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs.

* Ruth 1:16-17: Entreat me not to leave you, Or to turn back from following after you; For wherever you go, I will go (read more)

Mishael

Matthew 18:2-14, Mark 9:36-37, Mark 10:13-15,

KJV definition of child: Exodus 21:22, starts in womb, 1Kings 3:7-10, Matthew 2:1, Psalms 131:2, Ecclesiastes 4:13, Hosea 11:1,

A child has to trust for every provision

Hopefully these are helpful

Ecclesiastes 4:13,

Proverbs 19:29, Proverbs 10:21, Proverbs 1:22, Proverbs 14:8, Proverbs 1:7, Proverbs 13:20, Psalms 107:17, Ecclesiastes Ecclesiastes 7:5, Ecclesiastes 5:1, Proverbs 1:32, Proverbs 9:13, Proverbs 15:20, Proverbs 17:25, Proverbs 10:14, Proverbs 29:9, Proverbs 21:20, Proverbs 14:7, Proverbs 14:1, Ecclesiastes 4:13, Ecclesiastes 7:17, Proverbs 9:6, 1 Timothy 6:9, Romans 1:21,

Psalms 73:22-28, Titus 3:2-8, Matthew 7:26,

1 Corinthians 4:9-13, Proverbs 4:5-18, Proverbs 5:1-2,

1Corinthians 1:18-31,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study.

Brother Glenn, you are right, in this flesh NO ONE is equal to God; but when we depart this flesh the ONLY thing that remains is SPIRIT.

John 4:14 God is Spirit.....

Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT ....

Christ died for us; WE (ourselves, flesh) have to die (be destroyed) for Christ (Spirit).

1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, and the POWER of our Lord Jesus Christ,

1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such a one (flesh) unto Satan for the DESTRUCTION of the flesh, that the SPIRIT MIGHT BE SAVED in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Isaiah 9:20 An he (flesh) shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry; and he (flesh) shall eat on the left hand, and they (flesh) shall not be satisfied: they (flesh) shall eat every man the flesh of their own right hand.

Isaiah 49:26 And I (Spirit) will feed them with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and ALL FLESH shall know that I the Lord (Spirit) am thy SAVIOUR and thy REDEEMER, the mighty one of Jacob.

Ecclesiastes 4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his on flesh.

2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the ABUNDANCE OF the REVELATIONS, there was given me a THORN IN THE FLESH, (which is) the messenger of Satan (flesh) to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure.

Solomon prayed upon becoming King, for wisdom in ruling God's people. Not only did God grant him his request, but expanded it by providing him with wealth (unrivaled to this day) and peace from potential enemies. I believe God did this to allow Solomon to experience all the pleasures and possibilities the world has to offer and to discover the ultimate vanity of it in the end...namely, death. Although Solomon had many wives, concubines, and many other avenues to draw his attention from God; in the end, he came back to the original position from which his reign had begun. Fear God and keep His commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.

Ecclesiastes 4:16

"There is no end of all the people, even of all that have been before them: they also that come after shall not rejoice in him. Surely this also is vanity and vexation of spirit.

Edomites = White/red man according to scriptures still very much in existence today and ruling the earth. The Edomites include Amalek top Edomites currently occupying Israel as the jewish. Edomites are also the royal households of Europe including the windsors!! Edomites are the Americans Australians Europeans Canadians South Africans New Zealanders! Moabites are the Chinese Koreans Taiwanese etc Ammonites are the Japanese. Ishmailites are the Arabs Elamites are the Indians! I could go on but I suggest you do your own research. All 18 nations which the Most High created are still very much in existence today 17 of which are going into slavery for 1000 years for dealing unrighteously with the Israelites the apple of the Most High's eye! When Yahawashi the only begotten Son of the Father returns!! Vengeance is His!! Salvation is only for the Israelites.

Your post is such a blessing to wake up to. I hear the Holy Spirit singing, "What a Mighty God We Serve!"

He is Mighty. He brings us out of Egypt (sin), and brings us through the deserts in our lives; to the Promised Land. We are His children. The enemies on the other side are nothing compared to Gods purpose to bless His children. That's what we sink our faith into. No matter the obstacles that get in our face, we know that we WIN. Even if we die on the trip over, we arise to meet Jesus; face to face. He is our Reward!

The devil will Lie to us and say "it was just a too much pizza, dream you saw". Untrue. We know WHO it is we love and trust. Every day we wake up, and our feet hit the floor :D is a bad day for satan.

We are aliens to this world. We look to a future day when we will meet The Lord our Savior. The Lover of our Souls. This world is not our home anymore. Let's spend our prayers and our time, being "fishers of men".

Pharisees taught dry doctrine, without any love for the people they taught. It was a job. You go into the "office" every day, do your duty, and go home again. Did you catch any fish today?

I love the Samaritan woman story. She heard all the words of Jesus... and burned up the road, to her town to shout out, "COME SEE A MAN who told me all the words of my life!!" The whole town turned out to go see the Man, and they saw salvation that day. We'll see them in heaven.

Our earth is getting ready to meet the King of the Universe! It's not global warming. It is this earth groaning for God to restore it to what God intended in the first days of Eden. Only those who get their names in the Book of Life, will be residents in New Jerusalem.

Let Us all quit listening to those fools on National TV, that think they (and every dollar we earn) can restore the earth; stop climate change.

They don't read the Bible, or else they would know that GOD fully intends to DO IT. Study it for yourselves. Proclaim it.

Thank you, all these distractions are trying to move Gods word. Reading your post reminds me of my faith and to remember through it all God is the same, yesterday: he delivered me or us and today is the same! No weapon formed against us shall prosper, we are the symbol of Christ and May endure persecution but we remain alive. I love you and appreciate your strength! Let's continue to walk with his armor meanwhile witnessing what he instructs us....

Hello God bless you all. I just want to ask is Ecclesiastes 4:14 taking about Jesus; If it is talking about Jesus it is amazing how the bible teases the coming of Jesus. Thank you.

14. For out of prison he cometh to reign; whereas also he that is born in his kingdom becometh poor.

I've been healed many times. At salvation I was healed of drugs plus alcohol abuse. I was suicidal and involved in actual astrological chart readings. I didn't know Jesus and didn't know I was serving Satan. The moment I reached to take hold of an invisible hand, I was sure (had faith) a Hand was extended to me; I was born again, delivered spiritually and physically. I didn't experience detox and I woke up the next day filled with the Holy Spirit who impressed on me to rid my house of all cursed occult items which I burned the next day. I hadn't read Acts 19:19 yet.

Every time I prayed for healing and received it by faith, it was done: migraines, arm wrenched out of range. I asked for $3,249.76 to move out of state, and I got that exact amount of money!!

You believe what Jesus says. We are not of this world. Ask the Father, in Jesus name; then receive it. Don't ask selfishly. Ask in faith. Stand on scripture. Jesus is the same today, tomorrow and forever. Fear not.

Mark Chapter 16

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth NOT shall be damned.

17 And THESE SIGNS shall follow them that BELIEVE; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents (like COVID), and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall LAY HANDS ON THE SICK and they shall recover.

Isaiah 26:3

You keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you, because he trusts in you.

Luke 13:11; John 5:5; Acts 10:38; Acts 3:2;

Acts 4:9

Did Job trust God? Did everybody who knew Job or didn't know him; some accused him of sin, small faith; his wife told him to curse God and die; then at length God revealed His true majesty and wisdom to Job.

Touch God with praise, worship and your faith. He wants you to touch him. Read those scriptures.

Mishael

Delbert, there are of course many verses that mention a heterosexual marriage, whether directly or indirectly. But here are a few:

Genesis 2:24; Matthew 19:5,6; Ephesians 5:22-26 & 31; 1 Peter 3:7.

what bible verses refer to a marriage between man and women KJV

Been a busy morning already. Two trucks and a re-loading of propane! :)

Ecclesiastes 4:1

So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and so on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter.

my testimony: I know that comforter and he gives me peace in my weaknesses. :)

William, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Revelation 12:7 And there was WAR IN HEAVEN.......

Revelation 1:1 .....and sent and signified (or symbolic of) it by his angel....

Revelation 1:3 ....for the time is at hand....

Revelation is difficult at best to understand because most want believe the above two verses. The words were just as true for readers in Johns time as they are to us in our time and will be to those in the future who read them. The war in heaven (which began after Christ was crucified) was happening in Johns time just as it it happening today and will continue happening as long as there is a tomorrow.

Now, with the working of the Spirit let's see if by using other verses as the KEYS TO THE KINGDOM we can come to the truth about the WAR IN HEAVEN.

Luke 17:21 .....the kingdom of heaven is in YOU.....

2 Corinthians 12:2 ....such an one caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and the Spirit of God DWELLETH IN

YOU?

There is a natural heaven, but an a symbol it represent us (WHERE GOD DWELLS)

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the SPIRIT OF GOD, then the KINGDOM OF GOD IS COME UNTO YOU.

Revelation 12:7 ....and there was war in heaven (in you)...

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out..

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice (the Holy Spirit) saying in heaven (in you), now is salvation, and strength, and the KINGDOM OF OUR GOD..

Luke 10:17-18 And he said unto them (the seventy he sent out to cast out devils), I beheld SATAN as lighting fall FROM HEAVEN (from those that Satan was cast out of).

2 Corinthians 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God (Spirit) to the pulling down strong holds (traditions of man).

Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the (natural) warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this (spiritual battle) shall be with (spiritual) burning and FUEL of (spiritual) FIRE.

First of all, thank you all for your awesome site! I absolutely love it! Its taken me about 40 years to get to a point of having some understanding of God's word. It never ceases to amaze me.The Bible is a way more effective tool when we use it to verify situations,occurrences, and then refer back to the word with comparative principal. What this vlearly represents is a form of slavery that seems to have been around since the fall of man/angels in the "garden".

From angels fallen to mankind,and mankind falling to a beast commonly known to is todsy as "hu-man". Sons of God, to sons of man...and then sons of perdition. With our birth certificate created at our birth, they created a "CORPORATE FICTION"...An "Ens Legis. It is in all caps and has the capacity and status of a dead body...It is a corpus. The State captures the soles/souls on a document brfore our babies feet touch the ground and claim jurisdiction over them/us. If Jesus tells us that the Kingdom of Heaven is within us, then where was this battle in Heaven where Lucifer and his angels warred against Michael and Gods angels actually taking place? When God created Man in the Creation account in the beginning..It was an equal creation...Male and Female He created He them. But this garden story where you know who happened to be a third party and led the male and female to sin and to "fall" through what I have come to clearly understand through Gods Loving Mercy and Grace, is that the forbidden fruit was Sex.Out of wedlock. Which is the act of "reproduction" ,NOT "Procreation" which in turn made them something God did not intend on them being. The first/original estate is mentioned in the book of Enoch. It speaks of how the angels that fell turned away from what God wanted for them/us ,so they became manifestations of themselves and not Gods intended way. Once I was at the end of my rope, and surrendered ,then came understanding. I could go on and on. ALL PRAISE AND GLORY TO THE FATHER! God bless you all!

No verse 16 it all

Verse 9-This is a nice verse to help wives think of themselves as a partner to their husband. By supporting one another in the marriage it can help to strengthen the marriage.

Verse 6-chasing after the wind is futile because you can't catch the wind. A workaholic may never enjoy the fruitage of his labor and all his or her work may become as fruitless as chasing after the wind.

In the Wiki article about old Saint Mary's Cathedral in San Francisco, there is a panel below the bell tower clock which shows a quote, or reference, to Ecclesiastes 4:23, which says: "Son, observe the time and fly from evil". I have looked online at the book of Ecclesiastes and the last verse in chapter 4 appears to be 17. Can someone help me solve this mystery? Thank you

Explain Ecclesiastes 4:12

comments by Alex on Solomon, saw the 2 nd Child that shall stand up in his stead and said there is no end of the ppl that he shall be king over, The H.G. is that 2 nd child that shall stand up in his stead.Whosoever receives one such CHILD in MY NAME RECEIVES ME, The H.G is that 2 nd child b/c Jesus said that which is BORN of the Spirit is Spirit thats th H.G. THAT IS GONNA BE BORN IN OUR HEARTS VIA THAT GOOD SEED TH WORD. He is gonna rule all nations ( no end to the ppl he shall be king over ) Remember King Solomon himself was the 2 nd child that rose up in DAVIDS STEAD,but Solomon was not the Child of Promise. But there is a great truth in SOLOMON the 2 nd Child IT WAS HE THAT God allowed to build the temple, just prophetic that the H.G.will make our bodies his temple a perfect temple outta of the mouths of babes and sucklings Thou has PERFECTED PRAISE ( th H.G. WHICH IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT ) THE CHILD OF Promise a greater then Solomon which means COMFORTER TH H.G. TH KINGDOM WITHIN US.Perfection does not come till the 2 nd child ( the babes and the sucklings ) Impling a CHILD that is gonna be born in our hearts. Unless ya receive the kingdom as a lil child impling a heavenly birth .

I would rather be born to know God and his love and deal with the evil of the world knowing God will protect us than never know Him. I feel King Solomon that the idea of never being born is prefer to avoid evil which means to avoid God and his plans.

Two are better than one; because they have a good reward for their labor.

For if they fall, the one will lift up his fellow, but woe to him that is alone when he falleth for he hath not another to help him up.

Again, if two lie together, then they have heat, but how can one be warm alone?

King Solomon wrote these words but unfortunately verse 13 applied to Solomon himself. He became an unwise old king because he stop listening to admonishment or warnings.

A woman was made of man. Read the virtues of a good woman in Proverbs. A woman is not property. Paul writes that neither does a man have dominion over a woman nor a woman over the man but they are one flesh. While the man is the head of the woman, God is the head of them both.

Gen.18.22.23.God made women for the man if u are not going by God plan u will have answere to God one day that the truth from the bible . .