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My apologies for that mistake my sister Toni. Forgive me.

I very much appreciate your touching replies.

Just as you stated in Matthew 22:14. That those of us who truly accept Jesus Christ as our Salvation and give our lives to Him. I believe have been chosen by God and are very precious to Him. As He is everything to us and knows our hearts. All being important members of the body of Christ. Not that I was trying to boast or anything when I stated that to him. Just what was in my heart. I was surprised when I heard the reply I received about that detail.

Here are a couple other Scriptures of being "chosen". Ephesians 1:4, 2 Thessalonians 2:13, 1 Peter 2:3-5.

God Bless you my sister in Christ.

We are here to bring praise to his name, for his goodwill and pleasure. God is Sovereign, we need him, not the other way around. I tell you my friend read his word, pray the answer will always come just as he sees fit.

Below are some verses that cover this topic

Philippines 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure

Ephesians 1:5-6 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved

Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

2 Thessalonians 1:10-12 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Tom,

Yes, there is one God, I agree. And He is unchanging, I agree. I also know that Jesus Christ is the HUIOS, the inheritor of all things from the Father, and Jesus is the head over all things to the church as given to us in Ephesians 1:22. Once Christ ascended up into His position, all things are now put under the feet of Christ, and all must answer to Christ. Now concerning His headship, it says "And gave Him to be the head over all things with respect to the church."



So it is right to say that God is head over all, and that Jesus Christ is head over all because Jesus Christ is the Huios of God, the one who was in position to inherit all things from the Father. And Jesus is now the head over all things because He is God the Son, and the Son has inherited all things from the Father!

when did the church decide that the term HOLY GHOST is unacceptable and should be replaced by the term the holy spirit.

Ephesians 1 .3

Blessings be to God and father of our Lord Jesus Christ ....

Karen, may the SPIRIT grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The BIG QUESTION? If you don't accept Christ in your physical life time are you cut off forever? Or go to hell?

Most BELIEVE in this assumption.

If the scriptures are studied as a whole and verses are not picked and apply in direct opposition to other verses we see a different truth than the above.

The scriptures assert that THE WORKS OF GOD are divided into different ages or generations.

So what's taking place in the age we are presently living in.

Scripture says that God through Christ is CHOOSING a few to rule and judge in HIS KINGDOM and they with HIM will bring all creation INTO CHRIST.

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensations of the fullness of TIMES he might gather together in one ALL THINGS in CHRIST........

Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature WAITETH for the manifestation of THE SONS OF GOD.

Romans 8:21 Because the creature itself ALSO SHALL BE DELIVERED (by Christ and his elect).......

Romans 11:30-31 For as ye in times past HAVE NOT BELIEVED GOD, yet have obtained mercy through THEIR UNBELIEF:

(vs 31) Even so have these also NOT NOW believed, that through YOUR MERCY they also MAY OBTAIN MERCY.

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when ALL THINGS shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, THAT GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.

Luke 10:2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great; but the labourers (OF GOD'S WORKS) are FEW.....

Matthew 20:16 many are called, FEW are chosen....

Why are they called and not chosen; because they didn't BELIEVE WHAT GOD SAID.

Yes they are saved; but want be a judge in the kingdom.

"for in the day thou eatest thereof thereof thou shall surely die" Genesis 2:16-17

"by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men" Romans 5:12

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?..." 1 Corinthians 6:9

"But your iniquities have separated between you and you God" Isaiah 59:2

"the wages of sin is death" Romans 6:23

"The soul that sinneth, it shall die" Ezekiel 18:4

"shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death" Revelation 21:8

"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire" Revelation 20:14-15

"For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16

"And all things are lf God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ...To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them" 2 Corinthians 5:18-19

"Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ" John 1:17

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and not of yourselves: it is the gift of God" Ephesians 2:8

"But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ" Ephesians 2:13

"and washed us from our sins in his own blood" Revelation 1:5

"the veil of the temple was rent in twain from top to bottom" Matthew 27:51

"In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace" Ephesians 1:7

"In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature" Colossians 1:14-15

"But God commendeth his love towards us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" Romans 5:8

"And of his fulness have all received, and grace for grace" John 1:16

William, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

You say that it's up to you to choose, by the free will he has given you; is it really your choice or His choice.

Scripture says that ALL is HIS WORKS. Do you believe this.

John 15:16 You have not chosen me; but I have chosen you.

1 Corinthians 4:7 For who maketh thee to differ from another? And what hast thou that thou DID NOT RECEIVE? Now if thou didst receive it, why doest thou glory, as if thou hast not received it.

1 Peter 1:21 Who (you) by him (Holy Spirit, Christ in you) do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory, that YOUR FAITH (the FAITH OF CHRIST) and hope might be in God.

Galatians 2:16 KNOWING that a man is not justified by the works of the law (the works of man's hands), but by THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, even we have believed (BY HIM) in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, and not by the works of the law (the works of man's hands): for by the works of the law (the works of man's hands) shall no flesh be justified.

Philippians 1:9 For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not only to BELIEVE on him; but also to suffer for his sake.

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD THAT WORKETH IN YOU both to WILL and do of his good pleasure.

Ephesians 1:11 In whom (in Christ) also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to THE PURPOSE OF HIM who WORKETH ALL THINGS after the council of HIS WILL:

(vs 12) That we should be to the praise of his glory, who (by HIM) first trusted in Christ.

He is not calling everyone right now; only those that have been chosen to rule and judge the nations with him.

Psalms 2:10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings, ye judges of the earth.

Isaiah 1:26 I will restore thy judges as at the first......

Obadiah 21 And saviours shall come upon mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau (sold their birthright for things of the flesh); and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S.

"took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men" Philippians 2:7

"his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh" Romans 8:3

"The first man Adam is of the earth, earthy: the second man Jesus is the Lord from heaven" 1 Corinthians 15:47

"He can not deny himself" 2 Timothy 2:13

"Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and forever" Hebrews 13:8

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world: but that the world through him might be saved" John 3:17

"This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acception, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners" 1 Timothy 1:15

"For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost" Luke 19:10

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" Acts 4:12

"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This signifying what death he should die" John 12:32-33

John Chapter 19- whole chapter

"In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins" Ephesians 1:7

"Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood" Revelation 1:5

"Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver or gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot" 1 Peter 1:18-19

"And he is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world" 1 John 2:2

"Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it" Acts 2:24

1 Corinthians Chapter 15 whole chapter

Greetings in Jesus' name, Richard,

In every instance when a Christian received the gift of the Holy Ghost after the New Testament began in the book of Acts (the first Church), it was always accompanied with speaking in another tongue (Samaritans: Acts 8:16-18 , Gentiles- Acts 10:46, Jews- Acts 19:1-6).

This is the proof or earnest (token) of a Christian's inheritance ( Ephesians 1:14).

This was prophesied by the prophet Isaiah

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

With all due respect, a Christian does not receive the gift of the Holy Ghost and is not sealed thereby the moment they believe as many lying pastors/theologians teach (along with other false doctrines like the "trinity" "once saved always saved" "purgatory" etc). Likewise a feeling of peace is not evidence you have received the Holy Ghost. While I do agree there are many that speak false tongues in emulation (primarily in the "Pentecostal/Apostolic" businesses), that does not invalidate the real thing.

May I ask you Richard (in Christ), have you been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins ( Gal. 3:27)?

Sincerely,

Andrew

Kathy, may the Spirit grace you with His wisdom and His understanding.

2 Corinthians 1:22 Who (Christ) has SEALED us, and given us the earnest (down payment) of the Spirit in our heart.

Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel (CHRIST IN YOU) of your salvation: in whom also after that you BELIEVED, you were SEALED with the holy Spirit of promise.

(vs 14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

At the redemption (the death of the body of flesh) you will be given the Spirit without measure and a glorified body.

1 Peter 1:21 Who (you) by him (Christ) do BELIEVE in God, that raised him from the dead, and gave him glory; that your FAITH (CHRIST) and hope might be in God.

CHRIST IN YOU

Galatians 2:16 .....but by the FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, even we have BELIEVED (by his faith) in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the FAITH of Jesus Christ.....

Romans 8:29 For whom (you) he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he (CHRIST IN YOU) might be the first born of MANY BROTHERS.

God is good his love is amazing god is a healer,listener,faithful,never does he cheat god is very forgiving god he isine and I am he,s thank u god for all the things you did for me ur grace and mercy is all I need

Ephesians 1:13-14 13And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession-to the praise of his glory.

Christians go astray and do things they should not do. BUT God is longsuffering. And if they were truly born again they will repent. If they don't return, yes, their Christianity is in question.

Salvation (part 4)

John also states in John 10:27-29, "My sheep hear my voice and I know them; and they follow me. And I give to them eternal life; and they will never perish forever and not anyone will seize them from out of my hand. My Father who has given them to me is greater than all, and no one is able to seize them from out of the hand of my Father."

Jude states in his doxology in verse 24, "But to the one being able to keep you without stumbling and to set you before His glory blameless in exultation."

Paul in his writings emphasized the keeping power of God's Spirit in Ephesians 1:13-14: "In whom also after having heard the Word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also, after having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance, for redemption of the possession, for the praise of His glory."

He states again in Ephesians 4:30, "And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption." Probably one of the most powerful Scriptures of God's keeping power is Romans 8:38-39: "For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor powers, nor any thing which has come, nor things coming, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

The only way a person can be saved is by a spiritual birth from God; and the only way a person can keep his salvation is through the keeping power of God.

Many scriptures were written to show believers that some among them, who professed to be Christians, were actually not saved. John wrote I John so those who were saved would know that they have eternal life ( 1 John 5:13). In this letter, he listed many evidences, so that salvation could be proven among genuine believers.

Jesus loves you! Acts 2:38

Hi Gregory, You are right but I would put it this way, Christ has freed us from the "curse" of the law, and that we are no longer under the "curse" of the law. Galatians 3:11-13. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth

We was redeemed by his precious blood. Ephesians 1:7. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; We was purchased by his blood Acts 20:28, Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

We are forgiven but those sins wasn't, Jesus wasn't pardoned because he was the Christ, He had a debt to pay to the father, God is not a crooked judge, the penalty for those sins had to be paid, And he paid them on the cross. A good study on Romans Ch: 5, 6, 7, and 8 is very helpful on this topic.

Thank you.

God called you

from the beginning

2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 "But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ." Other verses say, "foundation of the world,"

Ephesians 1:4 "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:" But we were not "in him" until we received him. So, how did God call you by Paul's Gospel before the foundation of the world? Pete says it was "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied." 1 Peter 1:2. elect, and chosen have the same meaning. So, God looked forward in time, and saw all those gentiles who would believe Paul's Gospel, and all the Jews who would believe John's Gospel: John 20:31 "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." and Paul's Gospel for the Gentiles. 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" And those are the ones that was Chose before the foundation of the world. Do you see the difference in these two Gospels? Paul's Gospel is for the Gentiles during the Age of Grace, often called the Church age. and John's Gospel in for the Jews before the age of Grace, and the Great Tribulation after the age of Grace. And Believing is the way you receive Jesus as the Christ, the son of God, for the Jews. And believing Paul's Gospel is the way yo

Can you explain these Clouds and what are the "clouds of witnesses" - Jesus taken up in a cloud Also , what is meant by God all in all as in Ephesians 1:23 - thanks and blessings to all

Steve,

Ephesians! I think of superlatives like Eph 3:20-21 Now unto him that is able to do EXCEEDING, ABUNDANTLY ABOVE ALL that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

Here, the opening verses 3-14 enumerate spiritual blessings IN CHRIST.

Verse 6 has this phrase, "To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted IN THE BELOVED."

It ties into vss 12 & 14 "the praise of His glory."

This is all about the richness and vastness of God's marvelous Grace. Grace that He has bestowed on unworthy sinners. Think of it: He does NOT give us what we rightly deserve AND He freely gives us what we in no way deserve. He did not do that for the angels that sinned. This is Grace that glorifies God, a God that keeps the promises He has made over the millennia. Later Paul explains the mystery (used 6 times) that is now revealed to the principalities and powers through the church! Eph 3:9-10.

There's a song that my mother sang many decades ago that ends with these lines:

Holy. Holy. Is what the angels sing

And I expect to help them make the courts of heaven ring

But when I sing redemption's story, angels fold their wings,

For angel never felt the joy that my salvation brings.

Hope this helps.

What is the glory of Gods Grace??????

I don't understand your meaning of "the mark on christians". Are you referring to something that some Christians supposedly put on the outside, e.g. a cross, Jesus pendant, etc.? Or, maybe you're referring to Ephesians 1:13,14: where we have been sealed (or, marked & secured) by the Holy Spirit as God's Own?

However, the mark of the Beast, though we can't say for sure how it will be evident, seems to be an identifier on the skin or maybe under it, that reveals a person's decided position to follow & obey the rule of Anti-Christ. And this most will gladly do, so that they can still "buy & sell" & presumably lead somewhat normal lives, without being victimized or suffer hardship or even death.

There are is so much in the bible for truth and righteousness in the scriptures but remember at this point in Matthew we are still in the Old Testament, the Lord hadn't gone to the cross. He is referring to the jews who are still living under the law and the jews of today are still trying to live by that law, whereas our only hope is the Lord Jesus Christ, we are saved by the blood He shed on the cross, not by our own works.

And as far as eternal security goes just go to Ephesians 1:13 which says "...we are saved by that Holy Spirit of promise". We are part of Christ's body those of us who are born again. Our soul and spirit have been redeemed but our sinful flesh hasn't and we are still waiting for the redemption of the purchased possession. Our works cannot save us.

Hello Paul,

I did the search for you brother:

Matthew 26:64, Mark 14:62, Luke 22:69

Psalms 110:1

Mark 16:19

Acts 2:33

Acts 7:55-56

Romans 8:34

Ephesians 1:20

Colossians 3:1

Hebrews 1:3

Hebrews 8:1

Hebrews 10:12

Hebrews 12:2

( 1 Peter 3:22

Brother Nicholas, welcome to the family of God, born through the shed Blood of Jesus Christ & the indwelling Holy Spirit. It's always a joy to hear of a searching soul being freed from the shackles of religion, even vain philosophies & the Masons, & finding new Life & Hope in Christ alone. If you've come by way of the Cross of Christ, admitted your sinful irreparable condition to God, trusted in the Blood of Christ to cleanse your heart & through His death being made acceptable to God, then God's Word & Spirit declare you to be saved, freed, & accepted forever. It not only comes as a sure Word from God ( John 8:36), but also the witness to your heart that you have God's Spirit indwelling & that your life has taken a new course & you will think & do things very differently. And I'm sure this witness is ever before your wife.

When we're born again, we're immediately baptized in & by the Holy Spirit. He sets His Seal upon you ( Ephesians 1:13,14) marking you out as God's very own & you now have all the resources of Heaven at your disposal (for teaching, directing, comfort, answered prayer, strength in troubles, power against the spiritual forces) - but only when we fully trust Him & not waiver in faith. But this increases in our Christian walk & proving Him faithful in every situation.

Water baptism is simply an outward testimony of an inward change. It is confirmation to your own heart & against the forces of evil that will make you doubt that great event in your life, & is a testimony to others of your departure from all that bound you, to the freedom now in Christ. So yes, water baptism is different from Spirit baptism, but it should follow what has been done within you, as soon as you are able to. Join a good Bible-believing Church & immediately share your testimony with the Pastor/Elder, so that your faith & stand for Christ is shown to all. Btw, Jewish baptism was primarily as 'washings' necessary in the faith & not of the same meaning as Christian baptism.

The scripture identify this body we live in as a tent, this body goes back to ground in which it came, our spirit goes to be with the Lord is the way I understand it. And yes you should Know that you have eternal life, If not that would contuary to faith. That's why we have entered into his rest. 1 John 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. Ephesians 1:13-14. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were SEALED with that holy Spirit of PROMISE,

Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 2 Corinthians 1:21-22. Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;

Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts. 2 Corinthians 5:4-6. For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

Therefore we are always CONFIDENT. knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: Philippians 1:6. Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: If I had to trust in me I couldn't be confident, but God already paid down on his procession and sealed my destiny and he gave me the spirit of promise, and will redeem his purchase. Thats why we can't loose our salvation, it's not in our hands to fumble, it's in God's. To say you can't know is contuary to our faith. God is faithful. And when we are saved it will manifest im our mortal bodies, Romans 8:11. A live branch bare good fruit, We may not be perfect but there is a transformation taking place, and "POSITIONALLY" sanctified. THX

In the New Testament, 'predestination' is mentioned twice: Ephesians 1:5 & 1:11. In both cases, the Apostle Paul indicates that the Christian has been predestined to be 'adopted as God's children' and 'to receive an inheritance in His Kingdom'.

So both these verses point to a Christian's assurance that God has secured a destiny for us that is immutable because of Christ's sacrifice for our sins enabling God forgiving us & our acceptability into His family. That God is now our Father, where we once obeyed & served our former evil father, & that God's Son is our (elder) brother who has shown us the way, indeed was the Way, to our Father, ought to bring us much joy, comfort & assurance in the Work of God for us.

It should be said, that there are some who believe that God has predestined each human being to either eternal life or eternal death & that no amount of preaching, convicting or urging can alter that determination by God. That belief is untrue & I don't know whether this aspect is in your mind as you asked your question. If that was the case, there would be no need for the Gospel, nor preaching, nor responding - indeed, the Cross itself would be brought into question. We do know that God, in His Omniscience (His foreknowledge) knows all about His creation & who will or will not respond to the Cross. But that Knowledge doesn't determine who will be saved or who will be denied salvation. Just thought to add this if you were wondering.

You may read & consider the following Scriptures. But I should say, that when I think of a Christian as being permanently saved & can never lose his/her salvation, I think of a person who has come to Christ on God's Directions & Terms & has God's indwelling Spirit in them; as opposed to those who have not, & just 'grace' a Church building with their presence or may lead hypocritical lives, or for many other reasons. So, these Scriptures apply to a true believer, purchased by God through His Son, clearly showing that God never discards His children.

John 10:27-30; John 3:3,16,36; John 5:24; John 6:37,39; 1 John 5:13; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Ephesians 1:13,14; Philippians 1:6; Romans 8:29,30,38,39.

Suzanne, May the Spirit grace you with his understanding of his words:

Do Gods creatures have FREE WILL; or, are we the WORKS of the creator?

Ephesians 1:11 In whom (Spirit) also we have obtained (by grace) an inheritance (children), being predestinated (you have not chosen me, but I have chosen you. John 15:16) according to the purpose of him (Spirit) who WORKETH all things after the counsel of HIS OWN WILL:

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Spirit) which WORKETH in you both to WILL and to DO of his good pleasure.



Colossians 1:29 Whereunto, I (Paul) also labour, striving according to his (Spirit) WORKING, which WORKETH in me mightily.

Isaiah 26:12 Lord, thou (Spirit) wilt ordain peace for us: for thou (Spirit) also hast wrought (WORKED) all our WORKS in us.

Isaiah 44:26 ......that PERFORMETH the counsel of his (Spirit) messengers....

Psalm 57:2 I will cry unto God most high that PERFORMETH all things for me.

Proverbs 16: 33 The lot is cast into the lap (we were predestined); but the whole disposing (WORK) thereof is of the Lord (Spirit)

Proverbs 21:1 The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord (Spirit), as the rivers of water: he (Spirit) TURNETH it (man's heart) whithersoever he (Spirit) WILL.

Job 12:9 Who (man) knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord (Spirit) hath wrought (WORKED) this?

Job 23:14 For he (Spirit) PERFORMETH the things that is appointed (predestined) for me....

Job 23:10 But he (Spirit) knoweth the way that I take: when he (Spirit) has tried me, I shall come forth as pure gold.

Hebrews 4:3 For we which believed do enter into rest.....the WORKS (we are the works of the Spirit) were finished before the foundation of the world.

Hebrews 4:11 Let us (works of the Spirit) labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of UNBELIEF.

May the Spirit grace you with his wisdom.

Ok ,im not going 2 get into any kind of arguement with u or any one else ,taking verses out of context is always a mistake ,ive done it and im sure most of us have ,Ezekiel is talking 2 the nation of Tyrus ,Isaiah is talking 2 Babylon and its king and in Matthew Jesus is refering 2 people who say they r Christians but cannot even do the most basic acts of Christian kindness .Taking verses out of context is a big mistake ,i learned that the hard way ,its the best way ,u never forget a hard lesson .

You wrote "Angels always obey God ,u say they have free will but i am not convinced ,that would mean they r capable of sin ,i dont believe angels can sin" but the Bible disproves that. You offered no scriptural evidence to support your claim. You are encouraged to read the Bible and a concordance if you need more information.