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Hello Fabian TAIMABRI,

Genesis 1:27, notice: Genesis 1:26,28,29,

Genesis 2:7, interestingly here "formed, breathed life" is this symbolic of the Church the body of Christ to come? John 12:25, Genesis 3:22, John 5:26, John 5:24, John 3:36, John 6:48,54, Titus 1:2, Romans 8:6, John 5:39,

Is chapter 2, symbolic of the stewardship of GOD's Church? Genesis 2:15, Matthew 20:8, Luke 12:42, Mark 12,

Back to Genesis 1, "man appears to be collective for both" yes in name like human, humanity, humankind "man"

see even more interesting = Genesis 5:2,

GOD says distinctly female & male Genesis 1:27,

It appears it could be those created to multiply, fill the earth, subdue were away from the presence of GOD, again seeming to point to the symbolism in the garden "in the presence of GOD " His church. Genesis 3:8, Genesis 3:23-24, Genesis 4:14-16,

Genesis 2:17, spiritual death? Matthew 8:22, Luke 9:60, Matthew 22:32, Matthew 23:27,

In the forming of Eve, it appears also specific, spiritual & special with symbolism, Genesis 2:21-25, Genesis 6:1-3, Mark 10:4-9, 1Corinthians 6:15, Revelation 21:2,9, Isaiah 62:5, John 3:29-36, Matthew 22, Luke 12:36, Ephesians 5:30-32,

1Corinthians 13:9-12, James 1:5, Ephesians 3:4,

Hopefully these are all helpful

* Proverbs 3:3-4: Let love and faithfulness never leave you; bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart. Then you will win favor and a good name in the sight of God and man.

* Romans 12:10: Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves.

* Genesis 2:18-25

* Isaiah 54:5: For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.

* Proverbs 30:18-19: There are three things that amaze me-no, four things that I don't understand: how an eagle glides through the sky, how a snake slithers on a rock, how a ship navigates the ocean, how a man loves a woman.

* Ruth 1:16-17: Entreat me not to leave you, Or to turn back from following after you; For wherever you go, I will go; And wherever you lodge, I will lodge; Your people shall be my people, And your God, my God. Where you die, I will die, And there will I be buried. The Lord do so to me, and more also, If anything but death parts you and me.

* 1 John 4:12: No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

* Hebrews 10:24-25: And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another-and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

* 1 Peter 4:8: Most important of all, continue to show deep love for each other, for love covers a multitude of sins.

* Ecclesiastes 4:12: Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

* Ephesians 5:33: However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

* Proverbs 10:12: Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs.

* Ruth 1:16-17: Entreat me not to leave you, Or to turn back from following after you; For wherever you go, I will go (read more)

Mishael

Hanna Fowler,

Sometimes we have to find out who we are not, & who we don't want to be, before we find out who we are. I've told several people at times before testings & temptation we can say "I'd never" but as Peter under the real pressure gave in, we really don't know how we handle trial & temptation until testing. (We're to pray that God deliver us & lead us not into temptation ' Matthew 6,) Luke 22:31-34, Luke 22:40-62, Matthew 26:75, John 21:17, later Peter became a bold preacher read all the book of Acts to see Peter's boldness afterward. Here's a few: Acts 2:38-47, Acts 2:14, this is in the Bible for those of us who need this encouragement. Also this scripture : Luke 7:47, in context Luke 7:37-50,

Here are a few more: Mark 1:15, Acts 2:38, John 3:15-16, Acts 3:19, Romans 3:22-25,

Romans 5:8, "But God commendeth his love towards us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

Ephesians 5,

Ephesians 5:8 "For ye were sometimes darkness, but now ye are light in the Lord: walk as children of the light."

Matthew 7, Matthew 25:31-46, 2Corinthians 1:4,

Hopefully these are all helpful

Getting stronger is the same for the physical and spiritual. Proper diet and exercise (reason of use). Faithfulness in small things. I remember one of our aged preachers always saying toward the end of his ministry "in my life I have found that it is doing the small things that makes the big difference". My dad would say "it is not your ability, but your availability" . The following verses reference these thoughts. Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Luke 19:18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds." Our old nature wants to do big things, but think of the little things you can do for others every day. God Bless You!! Obviously we need to remain attached to the vine and have the power of the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 5:6 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Alex, I understand the Scriptures about the marriage of Christ and the Church. Paul calls it a mystery in Ephesians 5:25-32.

We are indeed united with Christ and with one another, but as anyone can plainly see, we all are not one person, losing our individual identities, even in marriage, we are still two persons. So, I do not concur with your analysis of this topic. I do not believe any created being will ever acquire the divine nature and have our essential nature changed from human to divine. I do not believe the Scriptures teach that we will become 'gods'. I do believe we have the wonderful privilege of having communion and unity with Jesus. But that does not necessarily mean that we will exchange our human nature for God's nature. You gave the example of Jesus' spit and the dirt. Well, as far as chemistry goes, what Jesus made was an amalgamation of the molecules of his HUMAN (not divine) spit and the molecules of the dirt. The molecules of both substances remained the same as before they were put together. They did not change in their essential makeup. The compound made is just that-a compound-consisting of both unaltered substances. We are united with Christ, yes, He does not become more human when united with us anymore than we become divine. He remains, fully God and fully human. No additional humanity can be added to Christ because He is fully 100% human. And as for us, we remain 100% human, not a mixture of humanity and divine.

Jesus, being God had all the fullness (100%) of deity. No more deity could be added to Him, the Father, nor the Spirit. Likewise, since they each contain 100% divinity, then for them to give any divinity to us created beings would decrease their deity and they would no longer be 100% deity, which would indicate a change in God. But He is immutable and never changes in His essential divinity. His divinity will never increase nor decrease, multiply nor divide. He stays the same always.

Hi John. Expanding on the John 17:13-19 reference that T. Levis shared, I would also direct you to 1 Corinthians 5:9-11: "I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."

The Apostle Paul is referencing an earlier letter he had written to the Corinthian believers (that letter doesn't exist now) in which he addressed the matter of keeping company with fornicators in the world. As you have asked, "how far do you go with that do not have nothing to do with this world", I see that it's not so much a percentage of our time, if any, that we give to the world, rather, what type of interaction we have with the world. In Paul's letter, he wrote about keeping company (or, fellowshipping) with sinners, not just sinners in the world, but those caught in sin within the Church. And Paul qualifies his statement by saying that there will always be some interaction between believers & unbelievers, because if one could manage to not connect with unbelievers, then one would have to leave this world to achieve that.

Therefore, we could say, 'we can interact with the world but not have communion (fellowship) with them'. Matters have to be discussed, trading to be carried out, people you have to work with, even the Gospel needs to be preached, with material help if needed; so we will always have & need to have contact with the world. But when the world wants us to join them in their activities, their parties or acts not becoming of Christian witness or behaviour, then we must abstain. And Paul repeats this important rule in Ephesians 5:11,12; 2 Corinthians 6:14. You might be the only Light they ever see.

Sons of God:

Galatians 2:20

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

2 Corinthians 6:16

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people

Psalms 43:4

Then will I go unto the altar of God, unto God my exceeding joy: yea, upon the harp will I praise thee, O God my God.

Psalms 56:4

In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me.

Job 34:12

Yea, surely God will not do wickedly, neither will the Almighty pervert judgment.

Ephesians 5:17

Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

Stay in the Kingdom of God:

Romans 14:17

For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

1 Corinthians 4:20

For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

Grae:

Ephesians 5:9

(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Ephesians 5:10

Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

Romans 1:18

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Grace and peace from God the Father in Heaven and the Lord Jesus Christ.

"Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord." Ephesians 5:10 KJV

My Fellow Believers:

You would not believe that the Wisdom of Solomon is revealed to His saints as it is written:

THERE IS POWER IN THE WORD OF GOD!!!!!

I prayed for wisdom and for those who truly have pure heart, will receive that wisdom, knowledge and understanding. I say that because when I read the Wisdom of Solomon, most of them are already imputed in my heart without knowing it. See Colossians verses below:

Trust, believe and have faith in what Jesus did on the cross. For the blood Jesus Christ shed is just like the OT Lamb without blemish sacrifices. Now He is that Lamb without sin and He already died for us ALL. Jesus Christ already won the Devil. He gave us a free gift: the gift of grace; the righteousness of faith; the grace of God.

Apostle Paul is the last Apostle God revealed what we Gentiles need to do ( the Book of Romans to Philemon).

Those who understand the mysteries of Christ/ God will walk in the Spirit of God.

Romans 8:9

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

You will know these people through the fruit of their spirit:

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance

Ephesians 5:9

(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Also make no mistake 1 Corinthians 13:2 ; Read verses 3-8; 13:

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

Colossians 2:2

That their hearts might be comforted, being knit in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

Colossians 2:3

In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

Be saved: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

Hello Donya. I wasn't sure to what level you wanted to go to for an explanation, hence my brief reply. I suppose your dialogue with that enquiring student has now long ended, but if you're still interested in more material on Sanctification, I would add the following:

As mentioned, 'sanctify' means 'to set apart'; having the same root as 'saint and holy'. For the believer, sanctification is generally seen in three aspects.

a. Positional Sanctification. The believer been set apart by his position in God's family. This is so of every true believer regardless of his spiritual condition because this concerns his spiritual state not his present condition (remember 1 Corinthians 6:11 was read by largely carnal Christians). This sanctification is based on Christ's Death as seen in Hebrews 10:10.

b. Experiential Sanctification. Since we have been set apart, we are to be increasingly set apart from the flesh & world in our daily experience ( 1 Peter 1:14-16). So when 'spiritual growth' is spoken about & expected in believers, it is this progressive & experiential aspect of the sanctifying work that should be our continual aspiration.

c. Future Sanctification. Also referred to as 'completed redemption'. We believe that the redemption we now have in Christ is complete in its work before God & in our lives (in the matter of release of sin's penalty & grip). Likewise, our future redemption or sanctification implies that their full meaning can only be grasped when our 'position & practise' comes into full & perfect accord when we see Jesus, raised to be with Him, & become as He is ( 1 John 3:1-3; Ephesians 5:26,27; Jude 1:24,25): This is our Redemption/Sanctification completed. Hope this 'extra' will assist you for the future.

It was heartening to read something of your work. Having done some ministry in Pakistan, I can well appreciate the vigilance & discretion required when sharing with folk. May much fruit be borne as the Spirit leads you all.

Every blessing sister.

Hi Tara. If I could add briefly to some of your 'other' questions.

a. Dispensationalism. I don't believe that seeing different dispensations in the Bible is altogether wrong. It would be wrong if everything you read must fit (or, be forced) into a dispensation category to make the Bible work. Rather than give details on the various dispensations, I would just say that there does appear some clear demarcations seen that could be of help to us in correct Bible hermeneutics, but that shouldn't be forced upon one as an essential to understanding & trusting in the Words in the Bible.

b. Can the Holy Spirit leave? When one has truly repented of sins, turned to Jesus in faith, & being born again, the promise to us is that the Holy Spirit comes to reside in us: 1 Corinthians 6:19 (i.e. His Presence is there to give us new life, Titus 3:5, 1 John 2:29); a new nature ( 2 Corinthians 5:17); sealing us ( 2 Corinthians 1:22, Ephesians 1:13); filling us ( Ephesians 5:18); & other ministries to guide, teach & comfort us. Yet, we can hardly fathom how intimately the Spirit works in us, drawing us closer to our Heavenly Father, & longing for us to be conformed to our blessed Lord Jesus. But if we step outside the Will of God, to disobey or to pursue a fleshly desire, then the Spirit in us will be grieved ( Ephesians 4:30), quenched ( 1 Thessalonians 5:19), outraged ( Hebrews 10:29), even resisted ( Acts 7:51). But does He leave us when we sin? No, He continues to minister to us bringing us to repentance, that we should call upon God to help us overcome & glorify Him in our lives. The true believer remains secure ( John 10:28), but we need to make sure we are indeed 'in the faith', experiencing God's Work in our lives.

c. Gluttony? Can be ranked with drunkenness or other obsessive, repetitive behaviour that slowly destroys the body God has given us. We need to take control over it, even if it means medical help & know that God desires our healing. It may not be sin, but can lead to it.

Why hate life when God gave it to you. Yes bro I am in the same boat but I don't hate life. I hate the devil. The evil one. He makes things unbearable. That's where God comes in. God said "He would never give us more than we could bear." Brother im praying for you and know God is with you. Brother in Jesus Name you will be healed God always has a special way of turning things around. We have to put God first. It's hard and dude I have been right where you are. Life is precious. Walk with God and He will show you the way. For David wrote "God you have turned my mourning into dancing" we stand with you that we serve a "Turnaround" God!!!!

Hey Mike,

I know this might seem flip to you, but don't despair. If your really feel bad read Job. That book in scripture will make you cry.

Anyway, memorize Psalm 91:15 "He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him and honor him." This is an awesome promise of the Lord. But, it's up to you to call on him to get you through your troubles. May God help you and bless you.

Helene

Mike, if you have never asked Jesus Christ into your heart and life please go to the bottom of This prayer request page and click on the "become a Christian" link.

Life without Jesus is . Not good.

Lord God, You see Mike right where he is today. Please speak to his spirit and lift him out of this despair. When we feel Your love and believe Your Word we will be lifted up. Please lift him up today. In Jesus name. Help him figure out how to get through every/any situation with victory. Speak peace and joy to his spirit Lord. Thank You.

Cast all your care on Him, He cares for you! Find a place to get alone and talk to Jesus from your heart. Wait on Him to answer. He will show you what you need to know.

1Peter 5:7

Isaiah 40:31

i hate life

Do you not know that the biden administration has elected more muslims in office? Do you not know how many muslim mosques are in the United States of America? Did you know right now there are islamic clubs at almost every secular university in America? I am just creating awareness of the horrors of islam. You talk about only talking about the Bible, and I am also doing that by exposing the damnable heresies in the koran. There are verses in the Bible that talks about how the followers of Christ are to expose the unfruitful works of darkness. There are verses are in the KJV Bible that talk about it, so that is what I am doing what the Bible says..

Ephesians 5:11, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."

James 1:22, "But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."

We are to not just talk about the Holy Word of God, but apply the Holy Word of God in our daily lives. I am not better than anyone, just better off spiritually speaking than most ( Matthew 7:22-23), but only because of how Jesus Christ suffered and shed His precious blood on Calvary's cross for all my sins and the whole world, for I am nothing and can do nothing apart from the finished work of Jesus Christ. Isaiah 64:6, ""But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away."

I do not want to be deceived in thinking that just by talking or hearing about God's Holy Word is enough for me to go to Heaven, when only the doers of God's Holy Word will make it to Heaven, and we are not saved by works, but by what Christ accomplished on the cross by offering up Himself as a living sacrifice for all of us. Love you in Christ!

To know that The Spirit of GOD dwells in us, it is His breath that we breathe in our life every second, every minute, every hour of everyday Amen. In Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul, that's us that is the same breath that we are breathing today right now as the Holy Spirit speaks, Amen. We are Royal Priest hood, we are a chosen generation, we are ambassadors for Christ Jesus you got to know who you are, and who's you are, you are Rich, not speaking of material things, we are rich in all things because of Our Heavenly Father in the Name of Jesus, you have everything to look forward too, don't look behind you, your future is before you. Pray to Our Heavenly Father to put those that is of Him around you that you will continue to grow in Him, (Iron sharpens Iron) Amen. Ephesians 5:1 Be ye (you) followers of GOD as dear children. We were created to create like our Heavenly Father we say what he say, and we do what He say do, in his word he said to walk by Faith and not by sight, when you pray believe and you shall receive, Amen. The Spirit of God talks through the reading of His word that is written in the bible. To know that you are more than a conquer, you are a Child of GOD. When you Pray in secret God will reward you openly, Amen. GOD IS LOVE, and LOVE IS GOD.

Thank you for your response, I just found your reply. For some reason it wasn't in my replys. I will check back on this thread again just incase you reply to this.

I pray deliverance from any and all attacks against you while you're sleeping! Spiritual, natural or both.

The 1st place I would like to start: Have you received or ask GOD to be LORD of your life? Accepting Jesus Christ as your savior? John 3:15-16,

With that we are sealed with promise, 2Corinthians 1:20-22, Ephesians 4:30, Ephesians 1:13, James 1:5, Acts 5:32, Romans 15:13, Acts 2:28, 1Corinthian 6:19, John 14:26, Acts 10:38, Mark 16:16-18, 1John 5:9-21,

* if you have not accepted Jesus as your personal LORD & Savior. Please do that right now, in prayer. 2Corinthians 6:2, 1Thessalonians 5:9, John 14:6,

Hebrews 1, note Hebrews 1:14, if you have received Jesus Christ as Savior, then the visible/invisible image was it fighting on your behalf?

* If you have been involved with anything associated with darkness & evil knowingly or others around you or in your dwelling have. Destroy those things, get it away from you. Turn away from those things. Ask forgiveness from our Father in Heaven. Matthew 6:23, Luke 11:34-36,

* Ephesians 5:11,

Ephesians 6,

Hopefully these are helpful.

I was taught that Israel was the center of "Bible Interpretation", the World.

I only mentioned Genesis, about blessing Israel. For more clarity we should compare Leviticus 26:14-39. If we cannot see this correction happening in our society, then we are blind.

Worse yet we are mute. Should we be silent?

All I know is we're being invaded from within. From other nations.

Do you think I didn't pray about this? I did. One word was given to me: CONSTITUENTS.

That's what each person is. It has nothing to do with Blues or Reds. It is the Haves vs the Have Nots. Our voices are Muted. Leaders are no longer listening to their constituents.

In the Tribulation, no one will have a voice. The IRS will take our photographs IF WE EXPECT to get a tax return. To drive a car we will be fingerprinted and photographed again. Powers that be, are working on how to force people to be implanted with microchips to use our own money.

There's a video on YouTube of them practicing on chickens, I kid you not.

Romans 13:11

And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of SLEEP: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that Sleep, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee Light.

Luke 21:34-36, And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so THAT DAY come upon you unawares.

1 Thessalonians 5:6 - Therefore let us not SLEEP, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

If we don't wake up real soon, to counter and confront our leaders (?) we are without excuse. We are being prepared for the slaughter, not just the unborn, but for the living unsaved. Can you shed a tear for those who are doomed? They have no clue, literally.

Please let's find our voices?

May These Messages Awaken Us to the Lateness of the Hour. Pray.

Greek translation of Biblical in the Gospels= (Internet research ) Greek = "Metaonia" - "meta" = "after", bears the concept of "shift", or "change",

Repent= the act of leaving what GOD prohibited & returning to what HE commanded.

Revelation 2:5, Matthew 3:2, Luke 13:3-9, Exodus 20:14,

Where does it say to be sorry, because of our trespass?

Remember the woman: John 8:1-12, Psalms 130:4,

James 2, Matthew 25:31-46, Ezekiel 33:11,

Luke 9:23, Matthew 16:24, Mark 8:34, Romans 8:13, Matthew 10:28, Colossians 1:10-23, Ephesians 5:1-20, Jude 1:24-25,

Hopefully these are helpful

VERSES ON MODERATION. Jesus practiced moderation.

Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 - To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

1 Corinthians 6:12 - All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of [excesses of anything]

Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is EXCESS; but be filled with the Spirit;

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 - What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

1 Peter 5:8 - Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: [over consumption=poor health]

1 Timothy 4:2-5 - Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Philippians 4:5 - Let your MODERATION be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.

Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

1 Timothy 5:23 - Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. (This was a stomach remedy; not a reason to party.)

1 Timothy 3:8 - Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;

Comment: anger creates cortisol in the blood, and it kills people.

Almost everyone knows these things. The only way I've found to fight back, is to not even bring stuff into the house. God created everything to give us life and health.

I drink water until my brain sends the signal I am "full". It turns off that screaming. Try it.

First, we must establish the readers to know who is the church. Church is not a building. Church is the people that believes in the blood shed by Jesus Christ to save us. Church is the Body of Christ. Church is the people that walk in the Spirit of God and the people who are in the Kingdom of God. Are you one of us?

"And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence." Colossians 1:18 KJV

"Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:" Colossians 1:24 KJV

"Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house." Colossians 4:15 KJV

"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Matthew 16:18 KJV

"As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed." Romans 9:33 KJV

"And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ." 1 Corinthians 10:4 KJV

"And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:" Galatians 1:22 KJV

"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." Ephesians 5:23 KJV

"That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish." Ephesians 5:27 KJV

"For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:" Ephesians 5:29 KJV

"For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones." Ephesians 5:30 KJV

"This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church." Ephesians 5:32 KJV

Philippians 2:4, 1Timothy 5:8, Luke 10:29-37, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, Matthew 10:36, Matthew 16:24-27, Luke 6, Luke 16:12, Luke 16:15, Luke 16:20-31, John 8:3-12, John 19:26-27,

Ephesians 5:28-29,

Luke 16:18,

2Timothy 3:1-10,

James 1:19-27

Hopefully you will find many of these useful to your situation. I pray the HOLY Spirit teach you & guide you into HIS way.

Hello John. I only recall there is only one Tribulation still to come. It is called, The Great Tribulation ( Matthew 24:21). Jesus said in John 16:33, "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." Here, 'tribulation' is simply the sufferings, hardships, even persecutions that we all might face (as also Romans 8:35; 2 Corinthians 7:4; etc.). But the Great Tribulation that Jesus speaks of, & other epistle writers also refer to, is the time of the outpouring of God's Wrath ( Revelation 6:17; Revelation 16:1; 1 Thessalonians 5:9; Ephesians 5:6); an anger against the accumulated wickedness of Earth's inhabitants which cannot be held back by Him any longer. The deaths & devastation will be frightening to say the least & the world will know that this is the Anger of the Lord upon them & none will be innocent bystanders - all those left on Earth will stand guilty before Him.

1 John 4:8 - He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 Peter 4:8 - And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

Galatians 5:22 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Romans 8:6 - For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

1 Thessalonians 4:4 - That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;

Romans 13:10 - Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Ephesians 4:1-3 - I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, (Read More...)

1 John 4:7 - Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

Colossians 3:14 - And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

Ephesians 5:9 - (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

1 Corinthians 13:13 - And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Matthew 7:15-20 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (Read More...)

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 Corinthians 13:1-5 - Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity (LOVE) I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal__

Hello,

1 Corinthians 13:5 - the end of this verse about love (charity) basically means love keeps no record of wrongs. This is all we need to know to discern that keeping lists is wrong: both mental and physical lists.

Hebrews 8:12 - shows that God does this for us, he remembers our sin no more.

Ephesians 4:32, Ephesians 5:22 - we're to forgive others as God has forgiven us, and support husbands.

What you described seems contrary to scripture and I would feel so deeply hurt if someone did that to me. It would feel like an enormous betrayal of trust. It sounds like you followed bad advice and badly hurt your husband and that it has never been resolved. It's the elephant in the room day after day, but you haven't even discussed it since? If you don't want to talk to your own husband about the #1 thing in your life, how will you ever even handle any other problems in life? In a way I would feel like some of the wedding vows would have been violated by this, if it were me.

That's great that you're seeking scripture and input from others as clearly this is weighing on your heart and you already know what is the right thing to do to try to save your marriage.

God bless...

Dear sister

I cannot imagine that I myself found a note under the matress with all my foults written on it, I would really go nuts. Wouldn't you?

You ask for advice for something that is obvious to do. Some things are common sense whether a christian or not.

Since you ask what the Scripture says read Matthew 5:23-25

v23 - Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;

v24 - Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

v25 - Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

And the above is for our husbands/wives too. As soon as you found out that your husband had something against you then the first thing you had to do is to go and explain to your husband what happened. Told him that your purpose was good, didn't aim to hurt him. Discuss. Whether your husband is a christian or not it's not right to have secrets from him, at least not serious ones. Dont forget God made us one with our mates. Ephesians 5:30-31.

So what I'd do in your shoes? I would spent a day or two fasting and praying ( Esther 4:16) and then go and talk to my huaband and explain him what happened using the words of wisdom that God gives me. Great advices are also given in the other posts below .

And some more advice. Aren't you in a church? Don't you have a pastror, priest ... that you know, who knows you and your life, and can talk to him about your problems and seek help? It not wise to go around the internet and seek advice since you don't know who is to whom you are talking to.

May God help you out. God Bless you.

Maybe some of these Scriptures may help you Christy: Proverbs 1:10-16; Proverbs 4:14; Romans 16:17; 1 Corinthians 6:18-20; 1 Corinthians 10:14; 1 Corinthians 15:33; Ephesians 5:11; 1 Thessalonians 5:22; 2 Thessalonians 3:6; 1 Timothy 6:10,11; 2 Timothy 2:16; 2 Timothy 2:22,23; 2 John 1:10,11.