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Dgjot,

I'm responding to your reply without reading any of the responses, so my thoughts will stay focused. Just incase there's repeating._..

Being you're still alive, it's not final judgement: Matthew 4:17, Acts 17:30, 2Peter 3:9, in context read whole chapter. Psalms 48:14, Proverbs 10:12, Proverbs 13:14, Ezekiel 33:11, Ezekiel 18:32,

it could be warning from GOD: Psalms 118:18,

or attack not from GOD,: Ephesians 6:12,

Psalms 90,

Jeremiah 18:8,

Psalms 37,

You are angry because of injustice it seems: Exodus 21, Exodus 22, Leviticus 20, Numbers 35, Proverbs 8:36, Genesis 18:19, Proverbs 21:3,

Psalms 73, Jeremiah 27:7-18, Isaiah 58, Isaiah 59, Matthew 25:31-46, James 2,

Ephesians 6:10-18, Ephesian 4:26, Psalms 82:3, Ecclesiastes 5:8,

Hopefully these are helpful

Thank you Roy for sharing so intimately about your sin & dilemma in dealing with it.

There are many issues here: your own spiritual condition (i.e. whether you're born again of God's Spirit or not); what you have been taught concerning sin & repentance (e.g. some happily to go weekly into a confessional to present their sins to a priest & receive absolution, having no deep lasting change in heart upon their exit); belief in your eternal security in salvation without a sense of moral & spiritual responsibility to attain to God's high standards; losing the consciousness of the depravity of one's sins because of a perpetual engagement in them, thus creating excuses to continue in them; even dismissing some sins for the satisfaction they give, e.g. maybe in your case, a need for companionship with its resulting emotional & physical pleasure you receive; & etc.

We all have 'besetting' sins: those sin(s) that seem to regularly raise their ugly heads to which we have to either attend to or succumb to. Even taking the sin of 'speaking lies' is all too often a sin that many hardly consider sinful because it is either considered at the 'lower end' of sins or it matters not to God or man. But the spiritual person, walking in constant step with the Spirit, is always aware of their weak area & is on guard & will shun any form of lying because it is sin & it grieves God Who lives in Him. And the same with attraction to the opposite sex: there's always a line that must be drawn that one must stay well behind. Men can easily succumb (some say, that's how we're wired), therefore we must be the more vigilant. To the one 'in Christ', however appealing that can be to our flesh, we must walk away, even run, as Joseph did when enticed (Genesis chapter 39).

I would leave you with 1 John chapter 3, especially noting those given over to sinful or to righteous living; not single acts, but acts wilful, habitual, or of character. But God always provides His resources ( Ephesians 6:10-18).

Hi Maria,

I'm not aware of anywhere in the Bible addressing your question. I personally believe the answer is no that whatever spiritual things you're experience is specific to you. If you are experiencing spiritual warfare I would choose deliberately the side you want to be on and be prepared. Ephesians 6:17 and around this chapter talks about how to prepare and defend yourself from such battles. Basically dedicating yourself to following Christ, read the Bible regularly, pray, and seek fellowship with other believers is a way to strengthen your faith. Some believe in generational curses and we do live with consequences of curses from Adam and Eve, such as hard work, labor pain, etc. Hope this is helpful in some way.

This scripture just came to mind for you. Stand on The Word. God bless you today!

Ephesians 6:10-12

I tried to respond and lost the verses. Anyway; look at Ephesians 6:17; Romans 13:4; and the earlier warnings to Pergamum for a similar response of God if repentance doesn't occur. There are other verses such as in Isaiah which prophetically speak of the sword of the Lord as it were. Basically; there is the effect on us; as the Spirit of God should pierce our hearts as Luke 2:35 states; and it is also our offensive weapon against the fiery darts of the enemy ( 1 Peter 4:12). These should be a sobering reminder; as the scripture states if we are scarcely saved; what about the ungodly (also in 1 Peter 4). There are some; as in the Corinthian church who have "fallen asleep" and who are "given over to Satan for the destruction of the body so that the soul can be saved." ( 1 Cor. 5:5).

The Lord chastises all He loves; and they will ultimately produce fruit if they are truly saved. He is patient; but will do whatever is necessary for His plans and work in our lives to be accomplished. Truly; we are Christ's great reward for His sufferings (see Isaiah 53:11). He is given ALL authority over heaven and earth; which would be expected being a member of the Godhead. But God chose to bring Him here and to become a man suffering in all ways as we do without sin. This was God's plan and surely we all must die to ourself as the Spirit enables. Psalm 2 indicates how the world will try to break the bonds as it were of the rulership of Christ; but God has the last laugh. Surely the world will have the stone fall on them rather than falling on it.

May we allow the pruning necessary to produce fruit. Praise God that although we were enemies of God He has reconciled us. ( Colossians 1:21). Remember that those who have taken the mark have been predestined to be reprobate as they were not written in the book of the Lamb ( Rev. 13:8).

Agape.

Isaiah 14 pertains to Lucifer too.

Ephesians 6: Satan and demons are invisible.

Unless a human gives their own body to be possessed. Very dangerous!

Our souls belong to Almighty God.

Hi Marke,

I've seen your posts before and agreed with many other of your views and felt they were grounded in Biblical truth. So, this is one area we have a difference in how we interpret the scriptures. To me it's 100% clear what the Bible says, and to you I'm sure you're 100% confident also. But our views are very different and are consequential as we're basically discussing the main aspect of Christianity.

So, let me only address just 1 of your points you wrote: "All born-again believers bring forth good fruit and cannot bring forth evil fruit."

Ok, I can see you took that idea from scripture which is great, but I just don't believe your interpretation as I see you're conflating sin with fruit to the point where you are possibly denying a Christian's ability to sin, is that correct?

Paul was a Christian and spoke about his struggles with fleshly desires and temptation to sin. Romans 7:13-25. So, he was a Christian who bore good fruit, yet still talked about his struggle with sin. He had to fight against it. He talked about having on the armor of God and being prepared for spiritual battles: Ephesians 6:10-18. He didn't say, we'll I'm "saved" and my fruit is good so I can do whatever I want. Quite the opposite.

1 John 2:4-6 - this indicates that we Christians continue to have a choice on whether to keep commandments or not. I'm sure you know that Paul's letters were to Christians.

Let me make a clear point. I'm a Christian and read the Bible daily and try to follow Jesus to the best of my ability, but I am imperfect and have temptations to sin just like any other human being. Sin can be fun by nature and I think most people admit to that. If you're so sure that it's impossible for a Christian to sin or do wrong or that we somehow don't have the freewill to, and is impossible to do wrong or to not follow Jesus, does that mean tonight I can choose to go out on the town and commit all kinds of sin that my flesh desires and you think I'll have no consequence?

Please God help Joleen and her family as they suffering the attacks of devil. Please guide them Holy Spirit to put on their spiritual armor daily and they spend quality time in prayer together as a family. Please God heal Joleen's mom of her back issue that she will be a testimony for Your Glory I pray in the name of Jesus Christ

Please consider reflecting on Ephesians 6:10-20, Psalms 23, 40, 91, and 2 Timothy 2:1.

Ephesians 2:12 , Ephesians 6:5, Psalms 2:11,

To, work out your own salvation with fear & trembling : Please read in context Ephesians 2, whole chapter Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, Ephesians 6:11-18, 1Peter 1, whole chapter,

Hopefully these are helpful

I also wanted to tell you that I spake of my gratitude for your scriptural help in the 2nd reply by me, to Ms. Donna, who replied to me, here, just above yours. If you see this, Sir or Madam, I hope that you will see how your scriptural knowledge (and listing) may be used by the LORD to help and strengthen others as it has already blessed, helped, MATURED, and will continue to mature and grow me! In your 1 Peter 5:7, scripture, I was reminded of what the REAL struggle may be in Christ, on earth. As a little child, Peter was my favorite disciple/person in the Holy Bible, because I felt--at the time--that he asked a lot of questions. I am not sure if I got that from the scriptures, or an interpretive work (like a play or something that helped illustrate the scriptures).

*I was in a very bad way, and today, again a bit downtrodden, and tempted to being deceived by those same lying, spiritual enemies your listed scripture spoke of in Ephesians 6:10-20. I had begun down a path lead to me questioning the truth of Christ's promise regarding those who endure to the end in Matthew 10:22. I do not know how far I would have gotten--but GOD willed your scripture lists to be seen by me to help me grow and keep me from traveling down the adversary's road to abandoning Christianity. It was GOOD for me to get to see Matthew 10:23-32, because of you, especially verses 23 and 32, because abusers who know some scripture (just like the Devil can quote it too!) try to manipulate GOD's word--I won't list examples, but it is very SICK what a witch that I know (she feigns Christianity to some--denounces it to others) has tried to do with scripture to at least 2 of her victims. GOD spoke to me when I was young in regards to her, but the wicked prosper in wickedness in secret, and the destruction that they wreak in some lives...even with the LORD's miracles in MY life, and the TRUSTWORTHY witness of elder loved ones, my life v. everyone around me...allowed the adversary an in. Thanks!

Please God enrich Sam with biblical scriptures that will give hope in You and help Sam to have a true relationship with Jesus Christ recognizing their purpose You have for them I ask in Jesus Christ name!!

If you have access to a Bible, please reflect on this scriptures: Ephesians 6:10-20, Psalms 23, 1 Peter 5:7, 1 Corinthians 10:13, John 8:44, and Matthew 6:33-34.

One of the shortest verses in the bible, Luke 17:32 "Remember Lot's wife." Lot's wife was saved, until at the last minute when she decided to turn around, why she turned around, we don't know, but she did, Genesis 19:26. The devil is in the world constantly tempting us until our last breath, as in Judas who was with Jesus for his entire earthly ministry, or as in

Luke 23:39-43, the one thief on the cross (whom I believe) was the devil tempting Jesus to come down from the cross and save himself, and the other thief on the cross rebuking him and saying that they deserved their punishment, and then asking Jesus to remember him, one was saved one wasn't. This is why it's so important to put on the whole armour of God as in

Ephesians 6:11-19,

Genesis 19:26 "But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt."

1Thessalonians 5:17, Matthew 6:5-35, Mark 11:24, Luke 6:28, Luke 10:2, Luke 11:1-13, Luke 18:1, Luke 18:1-14, 1Corinthians 11, 1Corinthians 14:14-15, James 5:13-20, Psalms 122:6, Ephesians 6:18, Philippians 4:6, Mark 13, 2Chronicles 7:14, 1Timothy 2:1-6,

Romans 8:26,

Hopefully these are helpful

Acts 5:27-42 kjv, Galatians 5:1 kjv, Ephesians 6:24 kjv,

Exodus 1:15-17 kjv, Daniel 3 kjv, Daniel 6 kjv,

Matthew 7:13-15 kjv, Titus 2:13 kjv, Rev 13:15 kjv,

Proverbs 29:25 kjv:

And keep the armour of God on adjusting it daily during morning devotions

this chapter is so inspiring

We must put on each suit of the spiritual armor in order to stand firm against the attacks of the Devil.

In Luke 8:11 the seed is the word of God.

Luke 8:11

Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

In Eph 6:17 the sword is the word of God.

Ephesians 6:17

And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

In Eph 5:26 the water is the word of God.

Baptism in rainwater does not save but baptism in the Holy Spirit and washing in the water of the word of God does save.

1 Peter 1:23

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Dear "Giannis", Too bad you have not experienced a prayer life. Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

John 16:5-15

Why was / is the Holy Spirit necessary for God's People?

And much more. How would you explain the text above?

Be blessed dear ones, remember that Jesus loves you and i love u in Christ.

Quite rightly there is no need to argue. Do not think that is what we do either. But a kind of personal conviction on various revelations. We do not take a small baby and put them in the middle of the road, you know. Then it will be hit.

Always be happy and see it this way: We grow a growth and it is from the Lord. All according to His counsel. Psalms 106:13

Ephesians 1:1-14 I will never stop and be thrilled with Paul's welcome greetings in his letters. You're welcome.

We must be thankful for what we have and what we have done for the Lord as He then only knows what is. Amen

Dear "Henry",People can say whatever they want about the Bible. But notice that the Bible is timeless! : D It fits in at all times. Is that nice?

No it is not, for it is Living Word. Be always glad and belive the schripture.

John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Amen stay blessed in His Holy name Jesus Christ.

SolaScrip,

The bible says we will never know why The Lord does everything he does until eternity and i believe there was a reason it was changed, but does it really matter what the pastor says while baptizing you because its salvation that gets us to heaven. In conclusion there is on reason to argue over a matter like this.

Solascript,

i agree that the bible has never been about logic. Jesus has reasons for all he does he might have done differently that time for a reason the bible says we will never know the reasons for all God does but we do know that the difference in what you say doesn't matter because it is salvation that gets you to heaven not baptism.

There is a song to Eph 6 you should look up its awesome and a good way to memorize it. I have almost the whole thing memorized because of it.

Dear "Sonia", In peace, I believe you are a believer and you need to take up the sword (God's Holy Word) every day to expose the devil's evil deeds.

Since we are living in the last days, the days are also evil. 2 Peter 3:3

Be faithful to Jesus Christ, He will deliver you.

Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

Stay blessed and remember Jesus Is The King of all Kings! Love u in Christ.

I'm not sure what you're saying, but it seems to me you have so much disputting around you, you feel it's spiritual attack "jump on" you.

1st , Matthew 5:10-16, Luke 12:52,53, * 1Peter 4,

2nd, Ephesians 6:11-18, Matthew 10:1, Mark 9:28,29, Matthew 17:21,

3rd Matthew 10:8-42, Matthew 12:30, Matthew 26:55,59, Matthew 27:1, Mark 3:6, Mark 13:9-13,

4tu, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5, Psalms 37,

5th, Mark 11:25, Matthew 6:47-49, Luke 17:3,4,

Even Jesus had to stop disputes with believers : John 12:7,

Dear beloved "Marie Fair", there are no Angels coming from heaven to lead any of us into the jungle or the forest or to the mountains. This is nonsense. Do not follow them dear ones, but stop by here on the web. As long as we have the opportunity without and put our names on any contract. And learn the Word of God every day, fill yourself with Him who can fill everything in everyone. Ephesians 1:23

But the people of the righteous God in Jesus name will join in the fight against the evil one and his evil spirit army. In a way, we are already in it when we pray and do His will. Ephesians 6:13-18

John 7:17

Be blessed in His holy Name jesus, love u in Christ.

Hey Love of Jesus

Satan is a created being, what does he look like? Isaiah 14:12-15 morning star, translated Lucifer, the morning star/day star is the planet, Venus, it is brightest just before sunrise, 2 Corinthians 11:14 an angel of light, 1 Peter 5:8 a roaring lion, Revelation 12:3 great red dragon seven heads ten horns and seven crowns. There are many descriptions of Satan, but he is a master of disguise.

The horrific almost cartoonish description of Satan comes from the Middle Ages. If the understanding it is covering Satan, Ezekiel 28:14 says Satan was a covering cherub. There are seraphim we see in Isaiah 6:1-6 and in Revelation 4:6-9 called beasts, and cherubim, is in the bible more times, seraphim six wings, cherubim four wings. The biblical descriptions, I believe if we came face to face with, we would faint from fear.

Satan is not omnipresent; he can only be in one place at a time. There are evil spirits and evil angels he controls on this earth, we see in Daniel, battles that we cannot see, Daniel 10. The devil and his evil spirits can affect our life, and it can be vicious, Ephesians 6:12 but we far too often use that to excuse our own bad choices (the devil made me do it). Galatians 5:17

We also have been told, James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

God bless,

RLW

I am currently going through the fire of my life experiences as my daily trials are literally encouraging and gravitating me towards taking more time out of my busy schedule, to READING the Bible, especially during work "at my workstation". I am challenged with leaning more towards focusing on GOD'S WORD, versus, wrestling against flesh and blood, because my fight is spiritual and not carnal. ( Ephesians 6:10) ( 1 Peter 5:8) ( II Corinthians 4:8-10) ............. Pray for me as I continue learning how to NOT do things my own way, but instead, following the examples set by my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus did not become the Son of Man until he was born HUMAN.

The teaching is, that earth and creation was made for man (translates as male or female).

Only Humans had Been given DOMINION; power and authority to use it. Satan stole it when Adam and Eve sinned. Satan was created. He had no authority to be on earth as Human. His first form was as a serpent. His fallen angelic form, took possession of that serpent to deceive the humans.

Jesus Took Back the dominion ( Genesis 3:15) from Satan at the CROSS. He crushed Satan's head (power).

Please understand this. Satan has no authority or power over BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS.

We don't have to lay down and suffer Satans threats or oppression. He cannot get inside of Believers in Jesus. We have the Holy Spirit indwelling inside of our born again spirits given to us through Jesus.

We have the authority and the power to command Satan to GET OUT of our lives, our family, our homes, job opportunities, relatives. Our prayers have power, but we have to accept it and use it. Our relationship to Jesus needs to become close. We can only do that by getting into the Bible and soaking up scriptures for ourself.

If someone hands you a billion dollars, and you only use it, one hamburger and French fries at a time__you can't see what Jesus provided for you. Scriptures are your weapons. ( Matthew 12:43-45). The evil spirits come back ever so often to see if you really meant for them to move out. Reaffirm As Needed. Ephesians 6: they are invisible, but when "all hell" breaks loose, in your world: it's time to fight back with your ARSENAL OF WEAPONS. Memorize the scriptures. Ask the Holy Spirit to bring them to your mind; in the heat of battle.

Walking free of hidden sun, or forgotten sin, can be dealt with at 1 John 1:9, 1 John 2:1-2 + 2:20. The Holy One is the Holy Spirit.

We are HUMANS and beloved of God. Let's walk in the provision Jesus purchased in Blood.

Mishael