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  • Elaine Robertson on Ephesians 6 - 2 years ago
    6:1: "Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2-Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;) 3-That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth."

    My baby son (age 40) was killed in a car crash last Thanksgiving. He was always an obedient child and honoured both me and his father. Why did God promise that he would live long upon the earth but was taken from me so young? How can I believe anything else God promises? I've been a born again Christian most of my life and this is killing me and his dad (who is unsaved by the way). Why? Why?
  • David - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Tim The only Book that has the correct info on spiritual matters and how things function on both sides of the fence

    so to speak is Gods Word. To answer two questions in general the messengers or devil spirits are eternally doomed

    like there leader and they know it. There influence is all over the place corrupting amd persecuting and crippling

    and causing division in every way possible. The true God has nothing to do or in common nor do His angels and

    does His Son except to help deliver people who desire to believe and know Him via His Word via His Son. Also

    you have freedom of will I'd be more focused on the Good stuff then i would about the opposite because Gods word

    says to not dwell or focus on this stuff. It's not to play with because that's part of his deception when we think we

    are smarter than He is. Ephesians 6:12 We put on the armour of God It Is Written Why Because Gods Word Is The

    Light spiritually that dispels any and all spiritual darkness.
  • Free - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Dear "P", All day u need to put on the armor of God if u want too be a worrior :)

    Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

    11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

    12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

    14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

    15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

    16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

    17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

    18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

    19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, Amen

    God Bless u and yours and have a Merry Christmas
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi GIGI.

    I've been enjoying family and took time away from my email. But in response to your question.

    I wasn't agreeing to the posting, I agreed that there should be no partiality when the world judges. That is why I consciously said ' I believe everything he said on (THAT THREAD).

    I also said-

    My quote: But that is the world that we are called out of!!

    It's he that is behind the scenes and our wicked flesh where the problem lies.

    Ephesians 6:12.

    We are to be a light and a workman to lead people out of darkness.

    2 Corinthians 4:6.

    I've seen this darkness up close and experienced it in several Churches.

    Do you expect the world to act any other way? There has to be a new birth and baptism of the Holyspirit,

    A new nature given, A New heart of flesh,

    THERE HAS TO BE THE DEATH OF THE OLD MAN WHO'S MARRIED TO THE WORLD.

    IF WE TRUST IN CHRIST WE WERE BAPTIZED INTO HIS DEATH, THAT'S THE OLD MAN. ONE WHO FAILED TO COME TO THE LORD PRESENTING THE WORKS OF THE FLESH. TWICE DEAD,

    But as for us.

    Ephesians 2:1-6.

    End quote.

    My point was we're no better than them apart from the Holyspirit.

    Here's why I took issue with your post.

    Here is a direct copy of a portion of your post that bothers me.

    Now quoting:

    It is truly sad that racism is so injected into these situations. It has always been wrong to racially mistreat people and it still is. However, I fear that those who are presently dominating the racism today feel justified since

    "they are turning the racism back on white people and the police,"

    End quote.

    Who's the "THEY" you are referring to? You sound a little partial and bias when it comes to certain groups!

    The thing is Some of the "THEY" you are referring to is Christian too. And been on this site every day and far longer than you. I am sure we prayed for a many of them.

    If they ask for prayer, they see it as much more than just a site we vent on. They see God's people gathered!

    That's why I said we should be careful in what we entertain.

    God bless.
  • Rick - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Randy lee Pestilence meaning plaque and is used 46 times in the old testament and 3 in the new, and most of

    the time in context was when the children of Israel rebelled against God or His called out leaders I.E. Moses and

    others and when they served other gods and then they paid for their rebellion. Its actually the same thing in this

    century due to unbelief. Believe in God and His Son get delivered, believe in anything else and get the consequences

    of your unbelief, God doesn't change God is Faithful and Jesus Christ the same yesterday today and forever. Man is

    always fighting with God and thinking he's smarter because of the manipulation of the adversary. We wrestle Not

    against Flesh and blood Ephesians 6:12.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Adam.

    I agree with everything you have said on this thread, Racism has always been around and always will be.

    So has every other evil until the prince of peace comes. But that is the world that we are called out of!!

    It's he that is behind the scene and our wicked flesh where the problem lies.

    ( Ephesians 6:12.)

    We are to be a light and a workman to lead people out of darkness.

    ( 2 Corinthians 4:6.)

    I've seen this darkness up close and experienced it in several Churches.

    Do you expect the world to act any other way? There has to be a new birth and baptism of the Holyspirit,

    A new nature given,

    A New heart of flesh,

    THERE HAS TO BE THE DEATH OF THE OLD MAN WHO'S MARRIED TO THE WORLD.

    IF WE TRUST IN CHRIST WE WERE BAPTIZED INTO HIS DEATH, THAT'S THE OLD MAN. ONE WHO FAILED TO COME TO THE LORD PRESENTING THE WORKS OF THE FLESH. TWICE DEAD,

    But as for us.

    Ephesians 2:1-6. And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

    Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

    Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

    But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

    Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

    And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

    God bless.
  • Rick - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 3 years ago
    Roselinda Thought this would bless you. The Lord is my shepherd = 1 Peter 2:25 part b. I shall not want =

    Phil. 4:13, He maketh me to lie down = peaceful internally and externally =Col.3:13, in green pastures =

    physical nourishment met beside still waters = sheep will not drink out of loud running water= phil. 4:8+9

    where to keep our minds which maintains our bodies and spirit, that restores out souls. Paths of righteousness

    for His name sake, Acts 5:20. Verse 4 = Ephesians 6:11. Verse 5 More than abundant life, John 10:10 second half.

    Verse 6 Gods abundant Grace Mercy Peace Love and Forgiveness and the End Eternal Life through the Great Shepherd

    Jesus Christ and eternal life in perfect bodies worshipping God in new Heaven and Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness

    Revelation 21:1-4.
  • Write this prayer down and build up your war scriptures and totally to HOLY SPIR - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Ryan, in your First paragraph you said a word hindering, and hindering is a demon. It has a buddy named harassing they travel together. I need you to consider these verses in Matthew 12, spoken by Jesus.

    When we are born again, we are cleansed inside brain to feet and all between. No matter what happens you__are the child of THE KING. You need to begin living like one.

    Matthew 12

    43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

    44 Then he saith, I will return into my house (YOU) from whence I came out; and when he is come, he finds it (YOU) empty, swept, and garnished.

    45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself SEVEN other SPIRITS more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation (these last days).

    Don't freak out. This happened to me. The Holy Spirit walked me THROUGH this trial. Write down these names that will come to your mind. The battleground is in the mind. THEY don't want you to read and BELIEVE the Bible. They want you to start doubting Jesus and yourself, your salvation.

    Ephesians 6: they're invisible; but they have personalities as I said. The Holy Spirit will reveal the names. Don't be fearful; it has friends. Put on your helmet of salvation, the breastplate of Jesus's righteousness, gird up for battle, all pieces. The SWORD OF THE SPIRIT, is the scriptures you learn from the Bible.

    "In the name of Jesus, and by his dominion and and power, I take AUTHORITY over your attack (speak out the names you've identified)

    and send you to dry places in outer darkness, to wander until The Day."

    "I pray now for my Father in heaven to release angels to guard my home and all that concerns me: my health, my job, my loved ones, my finances, my church, our health. In Jesus Name, Amen." Use your own words. God knows what we NEED.

    End your prayers with thanks.
  • David - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Lamar Ephesians 6:1-4 notice carefully to bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. The idea

    being if your children that know you love them when raised correctly aren't listening or obeying you that they can

    physically see and hear and respect how will they be able to listen what they can't physically see or most times hear.

    Therefore first part obey respect Parents in the Lord. Prayerfully this Helps.
  • Rick - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 3 years ago
    Shannon Putting on the whole armour of God has nothing to do with smoking cigarettes I'm not

    saying its a good thing just that it is not hardly going to stop God working in you. Just not best for

    your body the temple of the Spirit. Also God can help you deal with that or anything else by his Son Jesus

    Christ, remember he lead captivity [that which we physically desire outside of His Word] Captive when

    we believe. When we rise up and believe he delivers in all categories!
  • Shannon Lane on Ephesians 6 - 3 years ago
    is there any since in outing on the hole armor of god if you smoke sigerretts throughout the regousing of your day?
  • Donna G.Warren on Ephesians 6 - 3 years ago
    To Martha,domestic violence is an abomination ! Don't know if you have children involved in this equation ,don't know what area of our country you live,but most cities,countries have resources for this. They can provide shelter,legal advisement, clean clothing if you have to escape without anything,finding a job assistance, help with medical care,counseling to get over the trauma physical, psychological, emotional, childcare so you can find a job,& find a safe place to live,etc.For example, in Georgia where I am ,HOPE FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE (678)-410-7411.If you don't know of resources in your area,try giving a call. I will pray for you that our dear Lord will guide & see you thru this.Get your birth certificate, also if children are involved,copy of your marriage license,copy of medical records,school records if applicable. Try to save any money you can. Put stuff you get together in a safe place .Prepare as best you can but please get out. These are stressful timesbut there is no excuse for abuse.They also can help with legal advisement & services. Proverbs 3:5-7.If you have other family maybe they would be willing to help you. Have to be careful with this as it can get tricky as your abusing spouse knows them also.The main point being ,get out of unsafe situation .
  • Hazel carty on Ephesians 6 - 3 years ago
    Father epuipped me with the whole LORD the belt of truth

    breastplate of righteousness

    the shield of faith

    the helmet of salvation

    and the sword of the SPIRIT,

    strenghtend my feet LORD healp me to stand and shout JESUS is alive



    AMEN
  • GiGi - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 3 years ago
    Martha, this is a tough situation to be in without being married to a minister, but even harder if the abuser is a pastor.

    I suggest that the abused document the abuse: any pictures, dr, records, text messaging to friends, etc. that can sow past abuse. I do not recommend remaining in a situation if the abused will be physically endangered. I think making an "safe escape plan" would be a good thing to arrange with a trusted friend or organization that helps in such situations. When the abused is then out of the situation and safe, then I do agree that you should take this before the elders with 2-3 witnesses and evidence, so that the abused will not be punished by the leadership for going against the pastor.

    So, along with the safe escape plan, one would need to secure a legal separation and a no-contact order from the courts. Before one would do all of this, the abused should do what she can to secure income for expenses after the separation occurs until there can be court action for the distribution of income earned within the marriage.

    I don't believe one needs to be divorced to receive such funds. Also, before all of this is initiated, secure a safe place to move to, even if temporary. If there are children, take them, too, away from the abuser.

    I suggest that one do all that one can do to separate completely from the relationship. The abuser has broken the marriage covenant wit violence. This is talked about in Malachi 3:14-15. The treachery here has been interpreted as abuse by some commentaries, but others say it is the husband divorcing the wife of his youth to marry a younger woman.

    I suggest that one consult a trusted Christian counselor with no connection to the church of the minister and family friends/relatives, to get help with this along spiritual, physical, emotional, and legal lines.
  • Rick - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 3 years ago
    Hi Martha Ephesians 5:25-29 fits much better, also just the term minister itself means their supposed to Love respect cherish have self control, patience, and honor others before Himself I.E. example to others. My point

    has always been I'd rather see a sermon then hear one also respect is earned not just given. I don't know your whole situation I'd get advice from others who know of the situation and bring it before two or three believers.

    No matter who the individual is if there not committed to the doctrine that is unbelief. Let the Word do the Work

    we are not held accountable for someone else's unbelief no matter who they may be.
  • Martha on Ephesians 6 - 3 years ago
    Does a woman have to stay in a marriage of abuse if she married to a so called Minister?
  • Rod - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Donna, what you said about loving God, and sending his Son to be crucified for us, and that we are washed in the blood of his salvation is the basic essence of faith.

    Throughout the gospels Jesus is praying to God the Father many times, when he teaches his disciples the Lord's prayer, Matthew 6:9 "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name."

    when he teaches his disciples the first and great commandment, Matthew 22:36-39 "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind."

    he also teaches his disciples how they should baptize as in Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

    these are but a few examples of how we are taught to pray, the Godhead (Trinity) is explained clearly in 1 John 5:7

    you have no reason to be confused, if someone teaches different they are not teaching what is written in the bible. After Jesus baptism when he was in the wilderness and tempted by the devil he didn't argue, but he did quote scripture, this is why it is so important to read our bible (KJV) on a daily basis, we need to put on the whole armor of God, as in Ephesians 6:11-18, a few years ago I started to read my bible on a daily basis, and now have an inner peace that I never had before. God bless

    Matthew 7:7-8 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" "For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened."
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} "caught Up" on 1 Thessalonians 4:17 - 3 years ago
    Part III God's Great GRACE Departure

    B) Distinctions Between GREAT GRACE Departure and Second Coming continued

    The Second 'prophesied' Coming

    Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15 From Things That DIFFER

    God's PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly 'Mystery!'

    1) Immediately After GRACE Has ENDED/ZERO signs!

    CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From Heaven! Ephesians 1:19-23 Colossians 1:18 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

    2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel, And With The Trump of God! 1 Thessalonians 4:16

    3) JESUS CHRIST, Who Is God, Will Bring With Him, those "asleep In JESUS," who Were With Him In Heaven! 2 Corinthians 5:6,8 Philippians 1:21,23 1 Thessalonians 4:13,14

    4) CHRIST Descends With One archangel, Will resurrect those asleep (in 3) First, and Then, we "which are alive and remain (which Is A Mystery)," will be changed/all "incorruptible, And Caught Up together (rapture) to meet The LORD in the air (Not all the way to the earth), in the twinkling of an eye!" 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 1 Corinthians 15:52-53

    5) CHRIST "Gathers His Body To HIMSELF, to Take them To Heaven" (Opposite of earth)... 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 1 Corinthians 15:49 2 Corinthians 12:2 2 Corinthians 5:1,2 Ephesians 1:3,20 Ephesians 2:6 Philippians 3:20 2 Timothy 4:18

    6) ...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body, By The Head Himself!... Romans 2:6,16 Romans 14:10-12 1 Corinthians 3:6-11 1 Corinthians 3:12-15, 1 Corinthians 4:5, 1 Corinthians 6:20 2 Corinthians 5:10 Ephesians 6:8 Colossians 3:24-25

    to be continued in:

    Part IV God's PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure!
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    We Do, We put it on.

    With it we're well equipped.

    If we think we can do anything more than that, We're taking it off!!

    We would fail like Peter did when the Desciples were absent of the Holyspirit.

    Redemption has been settled on the cross.

    The Armor is to do exactly what it says it does.

    Ephesians 6:11. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may BE ABLE TO STAND AGAINST THE " WILES " ( Schemes )OF THE DEVIL.

    Satan doesn't come to you as a wolf! He comes to you as a wolf in SHEEP'S CLOTHING.

    Satan is subtil. That's how he approached Eve. " Now the serpent was more " SUBTIL " than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. Genesis 3:1."

    But the Lords sheep don't hear his voice!!

    Jesus is the chief shepherd and those who shepherd his flock will show the fruit of the Spirit not the works of the flesh.

    "No coveting the glory in Christ victory"

    When someone is in the Spirit they want speak much of themselves, They will speak of the Work of Christ on the Cross.

    Worshipping in truth and in Spirit is CAUSED by the Holyspirit.

    Here's the only weapon we have, The word of God!!

    And it's not given to you to use to bind Demons!!

    It's given to you to minister the gospel and "IT" will divide asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, I believe That happens when you are QUICKENED by it..

    Our flesh is also our enemy. The flesh can become super sensual when ministering in the flesh and lacking the spirit.

    I'm Sorry but we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

    1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

    God bless
  • S Spencer - 3 years ago
    Did you ever wondered if the Devil was out to kill us, Why didn't he just kill Adam and Eve? Then he would have laid the axe at the root of all Mankind.

    He's a deceiver.

    When he Deceived them He took Dominion.

    The Devil is in the Business of Mankind Desciples of his own. The Devil wanted Gods Glory and so do his Children.

    Pride is What's a attribute of Satan and our flesh.

    I believe Jude has a lot to say about this

    I believe this is the context of Jude 1:7-13. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

    Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, DESPISE DOMINION, AND SPEAK EVIL OF DIGNITIES.

    Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

    BUT THESE SPEAK EVIL OF THOSE THINGS WHICH THEY KNOW NOT: BUT WHAT THEY KNOW NATURALLY, AS BRUTE BEASTS, IN THOSE THINGS THEY CORRUPT THEMSELVES.

    Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

    These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

    Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

    Ephesians 6:11. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the ( WILES )of the devil.

    Ephesians 6:12-13.

    We're not given this Armor to March forward. It's so we will be able to Stand.

    We don't present ourselves as brute beasts.

    Paul says when I am weak I'm strong.

    2 Corinthians 12:7-10.

    The strength is not U

    The strength is he that is in U.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello David,

    I think that's a great analogy. I'm looking at three separate commands in Ephesians Chapter 6. The first command is in verse Ephesians 6:10 which says "be strong in the Lord." The second command is in Ephesians 6:11 which says "put on the whole armor of God." This is written in aorist tense which means do it one time. So we are to put on the whole armor of God once.

    The purpose: that we may be able to "stand" against the wiles of the devil." The word wiles is the word "METHODIA" which means methods or schemes. And notice that all of this is to cause us to stand. We're not to fight, but to stand. Why? Because our position is in Christ at the right hand of the throne of God in the spirit realm. What do we have to fight Satan for? He's already been defeated.

    And then the third command in verse 13 says "Wherefore take unto you (Aorist tense), the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand (Resist), in the evil day, and having done all (That is, after everything has been worked out), to stand. In other words, once the dust settles, you're still standing. So we are to stand, not fight.



    So your analogy makes a lot of sense. We're standing still, stuck in a block of concrete. Nothing is going to move us. We've already put on the whole armor of God. That armor never comes off. We're not to fight, but stand. That's what we are commanded to do.

    Thanks for sharing that!
  • Rick - In Reply on Psalms 91 - 3 years ago
    Cyrus First thing is that no one could be a christian before pentecost in the bible that's when the faith of Jesus Christ became available, they could believe God and walk in that believing faith but no one Had Christ in them being born again until pentecost. In Rome that's how bad the persecution Got and in our day and time in certain parts of the World its Intense. It it indeed Ephesians 6:12. Thank God we have the Hope of the Return to look forward to. There are great examples in the word of men believing God that's available to rise up to. Hebrews chapter 11 believers Hall of Fame.

    We are the body of Christ but we are all at different levels of our believing walk, some big and some small only God knows. Do the best you can and God will do the Rest.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 3 years ago
    2 Corinthians 3:13-18,
  • Chris - In Reply on Ephesians 6 - 3 years ago
    Traci, I can't think of any reason why covering your face should bring dishonour to God. Some people need to do so (& not referring to some Muslim women who do); especially if a person's skin suffers under sunlight (Xeroderma pigmentosum) or some other medical problem on the face that requires a covering.
  • Traci on Ephesians 6 - 3 years ago
    Do I dishonor God by covering my face?
  • David - In Reply on Psalms 82 - 3 years ago
    Hi Dorothea These are the scripture then you decide I choose to let Gods Word speak for itself. In the Gospel of luke 4:6 The devil says to jesus Christ all this power and glory of them speaking of the kingdoms of the world will I give thee for that was delivered unto me. Carefully notice it does not says ownership it says ruler there is a major difference. Also in 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of those that believe not. Also Ephesians 6:12 for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers again notice power. Now in Genesis Gods arch enemy satan knew that God gave dominion and power to Adam and in Genesis 3 that dominion and power was handed to serpent [figure of speech magnifying his slyness] i.e. the devil by making them believe his lie so he stole the power and glory of creation from Adam because they believed His word instead of Gods Word. Meaning God said thou shalt surely die the serpent thou shalt not surely die. They died spiritually they lost there spiritual connection with God and power over His Creation. He DID NOT INHERIT THE POWER OF THE WORLD. Now with what Jesus Christ accomplished for the believer when born again that power has been bought back for us in Christ Jesus when we walk by the spirit. Ephesians 3: Now unto him that is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think according to the POWER that worketh in us.
  • David - In Reply on Genesis 19 - 3 years ago
    Homosexuality is spiritual in nature nobody is born that way and it is not genetic this is a lie of the world I know of a few believers that got delivered from that stuff. Something to always keep in mind we wrestle not against flesh and blood Ephesians 6:12 it is always spiritual in nature also 2 Corinthians 4:18.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Rick, You said spirit of truth and spirit of error can not come from the same source.

    I though God was the ONLY source of every thing.

    Colossians 1:16 For by him were ALL THINGS created, that are in heaven and that are in earth, visible and INVISIBLE. whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or POWERS: all things were created by him, and FOR HIM.

    Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but against principalities. against POWERS, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    All these things we fight against in Ephesians 6:12 are the same things that he created for HIMSELF in Colossians 1:16

    2 Thessalonians 2:8 Then shall that Wicked be revealed.....

    2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him (that wicked), whose coming is after the working of SATAN with all POWERS and signs of lying wonders,

    2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness IN THEM that perish; because THEY received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

    2 Thessalonians 2:11 FOR THIS CAUSE shall GOD shall send them strong delusion that they should BELIEVE A LIE.

    Man says this verse is talking about that ONE ANTI CHRIST, but verse 10 SAYS THEM AND THEY. That's more than one.

    Ephesians 2:2 Where in time past ye also walked according to the course of this world (FLESH), according to the prince (Satan)of the POWER of the air ( 2 Thessalonians 2:9), the SPIRIT that now worketh in the children of disobedience (Satan).

    2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall CONSUME with the spirit of his mouth (the WORD) and the brightness (the LIGHT) of his coming ( Hebrews 9:28).

    GBU
  • Rick - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Earl With all due respect that contradicts Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, also Ephesians 2:2 also 1 John 4:1-3 how many times is spirit mentioned. Spirit of truth and spirit of error cannot come from same source. That's my conclusion to this matter God bless.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply on Job 1 - 3 years ago
    Precious friend, Carolyn, Great Question "How do you handle spiritual warfare besides praying and fasting?"

    1) study Prayerfully and Carefully, God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15, rule #2, in God's Bible "study" Rules: Link

    2) Then "put on the FULL armour of God, stand, and make known the Mystery Of The Gospel Of The GRACE of God!" Ephesians 6:10-20

    Precious Carolyn, Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,? )


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