Discuss Exodus 10

Thank you for what you've shared Henry. Ordinarily, I could agree that God cannot use evil in any of its forms to accomplish His Will - that Satan alone is the instigator of everything evil & our problems emanate from our fallen state & our listening to him; but what then do we do with the Scriptures that tell us of God sending out an evil spirit, or even of Job, where God gave Satan permission to do whatever he wanted with Job except to touch his life?

How do we then understand: "But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him" ( 1 Samuel 16:14), or when "the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart" ( Exodus 10:27), which ensured that further plagues would come upon the people, ultimately bringing on the deaths of their firstborn? Can we, from this point in history, look back at what took place when God's Hand moved upon people, & confidently state the modus operandi of God? From our present view, we can say that nothing evil, even the smell of it, can emanate from God, but what we might consider as evil is something that God has control over, which we may know little or nothing about.

What could have gone on in Job's mind I wonder, as he always walked carefully before God, "perfect and upright, one that feared God, and eschewed evil", and then faced tragedy after tragedy? The caliber of the man was clear; when in spite of his losses, he still 'fell onto his face & worshipped God'; yet he never received an answer to his many afflictions, but had to accept the sovereignty of God in every situation, even accepting Satan's strikes against him.

Even our Lord suffered & died by the hands of wicked men, filled & controlled by evil spirits that made them & Satan believe that victory was theirs by ridding this One from their midst. With the many other references in the Bible, I can only conclude that I yet don't have an understanding of God's Ways, both in sending forth an evil spirit, allowing it to work & fulfilling His Will.

Henry

Thank you for your thoughts.

I believe the Bible, every word.

You said,

"In reference to any temptation or provoking remember James 1:13

God can't be

Tempted neither tempts he any man."

I believe James 1:13.

I also believe my Lord when He taught us how to pray saying to our Heavenly Father,

And lead us not into temptation ( Luke 11:4) ( Matthew 6:13)

And when God told Moses He would harden Pharaoh's heart that Pharaoh would not let the children of Israel go( Exodus 10:27)

And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said. ( Exodus 7:13)

The Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart until the destroying angel came and killed all the first born of Egypt.

And the Lord did so to shew his power by Pharaoh. ( Romans 9:17)

Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. ( Romans 9:18)

Henry, why would our Lord tell us to pray to our Heavenly Father saying,

...and lead us not into temptation?

Why would the God of Isreal harden Pharaoh's heart until He destroyed all the first born of Egypt?

If the Lord does not tempt us, how did He harden Pharaoh's heart?

Do you see the contradictions?

Nevertheless, God will have mercy on whom he will have mercy and, whom he will he hardeneth.

Matthew 24,

North, South East & West, examples: Ezekiel 37:9, Revelation 7:1, Job 37:9,

East Wind; Genesis 41:6,23,27, Exodus 10:13, Exodus 14:21, Psalms 48:7, Isaiah 27:8, Jeremiah 18:17, Ezekiel 17:10, Ezekiel 19:12, Hosea 13:15,

West Wind; Exodus 10:19,

North Wind; Proverbs 25:23,

South Wind, Job 37:17, Luke 12:55, Acts 27:13,

Psalms 78:26, Ecclesiastes 1:6, Jeremiah 10:13, Jeremiah 51:16, Amos 4:13,

Interestingly in Michigan the Northern winds blow, it feels like bitter coldness inside, freezing your nose inside like icicles, even through your clothing layers. In Southern California when the " Santa Ana winds" dry & hot, dusty, both very district & unpleasant. The winds that blow East from the Pacific Ocean even summertime bring cool, unpleasant chills as early evening approaches. Etc. (In some personal observation of distinct winds.)

Hopefully these are helpful

Matthew 6:23, Job 10:22, 1John 2:11, Exodus 10:21, Isaiah 8:22, Jeremiah 13:16,

John 1:5 also prophetic of Isaiah 60:2, if crucifixion isn't dark, I don't know what time is. Ephesians 5:11,

Isaiah 5:20, John 12:46,

Isaiah 6:8-10, Mark 4:12, also prophecy, fulfilled

Hopefully these are helpful

You're welcome Gigi.

And may the Lord bless you in all that you do.

Thank you Steve. This was helpful.

Hi Gigi.

I believe the Lord hardened Pharoahs heart bringing out what was in him. In Acts 7:18. Stephen states "Till ANOTHER king arose, which knew not Joseph." I've heard the word another being used here suggests a different type in the Greek. There is 2 words used for "another" in the Greek. One is when you want another of the same and the other is one of a different kind. the second is used here. This Pharoah might have been an Assyrian.

Isaiah 52:4. For thus saith the Lord GOD, My people went down aforetime into Egypt to sojourn there; and the ASSYRIAN oppressed them without cause.

God Magnified his Great name YHWH in Egypt and all the World feard the God of Israel as he will do again in the latter days.

Ezekiel 38:22-23. And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Jeremiah 16:13-15.

Jeremiah 23:6-8.

Thank you and

God bless.

......continued.

Moses and Aaron were forced to leave Pharaoh's presence. Moses stretched out his hands and rod and the locusts came. Senehem was the Egyptian god of protction froem locusts. In this plague, it was shown that Senehem was worthless and powerless to prevent the locust from coming or from totally destroying vegetation in the land. They came in on the east wind God stirred up and devoured every green plant. The number of locusts was so vast and severe that it is said that it is the worst swarm ever. There were so many that the land was darkened by the swarm as they flew in.

Pharaoh was greatly concerned and called Moses and Aaron to appear before him right away. He again admits that he had sinned against the LORD, God of the Israelites, even asking for forgiveness this once and spare him from death, begging Moses to entreat the LORD on his behalf to end this plague. So,Moses went out and entreated the LORD. God sent a west wind the blew away the locust into the Red Sea. Not one locust was left in the land.

But God hardened Pharaoh's heart and so he would not release the Israelites. Then God told Moses to stretch out his hands towards heaven to bring darkness upon the land that was so think it could actually be felt. The darkness lasted three days, keeping people from seeing one another or rising up from their beds. But in Goshen, there was daylight.

The Egyptian's top god was RA, ruler of the sun. This darkness demonstrated that Ra was no match for Israel's God.

Again, Pharaoh calls for Moses to appear before him, telling Moses to go to serve the LORD but leave behind the livestock. Moses insisted that they needed to take the livestock because they did not know yet what God would ask of them in service to Him. So, the LORD Pharaoh' hardened heart further and told Moses not to meet with him ever again. Moses agreed to never speak to Pharaoh again.

Praise God, I am thankful for so much!

In this chapter of Exodus, Moses and Aaron are still talking with Pharaoh, seeking the release of the Israelites from bondage. Pharaoh is not deterred by the plagues, nor humbled (vs.3). He was determined not to surrender his self-assertiveness nor his maintenance of his sovereignty, not even to the true God. Isn't this the essence of sin?

In the opening of the chapter, God is stating the reasons for the hardening of Pharaoh's heart-that I may show these signs of Mine before him and that you may tell in the hearing of your sons and your son's sons the mighty things I have done in Egypt and My signs which I have done among them, that you may know that I am the LORD" (NIV) verses 1-2.

This makes me think of God's ways not being our ways. I know that He cannot sin or do evil. Yet so many people are being adversely affected by these plagues that God calls My signs. Here God is exercising His justice. There is not sin by God in this. I need to keep my mind clear in this so as not to accuse God of wrongdoing by causing suffering. Here God is not just allowing suffering, but is causing it. And it says that God hardened Pharaoh's heart. Pharoah chose to not submit to God, but it was as much God's doing as it was Pharaoh's ( Romans 9:14-24 speaks of God choosing to have mercy on whom He will have mercy and hardens whom He wills to harden, like Pharaoh.

In verse 4 God again, warns Pharaoh ahead of time of a coming plague, this time locusts. Even Pharaoh's servants entreated Pharaoh to let the Israelites go because Egypt was being destroyed. So, Pharaoh listened to these advisors and agreed to let SOME go, but not all. He still wanted rule over the Israelites and leaving some behind would ensure that the ones who go will come back. Pharaoh said that the MEN could go. Moses demanded that ALL would leave with him, including young, old, male, female, and all of their livestock.

Pharaoh warns Moses that evil lies ahead if they go.

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Do you think you could all have them open site themselves?

* may encourage them to seek GOD & read The WORD on their own.

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* did you know you can also plug your PC, Gaming Consoles into a television with the right plug-in cords.

Hopefully these are helpful.

I am using the scripture of the plaques for my youth class and i would love to be able to print this

Jcbu Again

Drat these small buttons on my phone and the way it wants to edit my words. I have to laugh at the mistakes in my posts. Hope you get the gist of the words that are garbled. Keeps us humble, I guess.

Good afternoon Jcbu

It is true that each of us have some sort of "barren ground" that needs carefulmar the Master Gardener. As we seek the Lord more diligently, frequently, and profoundly, He will till up the "soil" of our"barren" area, water it with His Word, plant it with His life, and shine on it with His grace and mercy to make it become fruitful to Him and His purposes.

Jesus is our "All". In thanksgiving, we should give Hom our all in worship, love, obedience, and service to others. This is a really big assignment. God doesn't expect us to eat perfect in this, just gone willing to move in it daily as He leads and empowers us. He loves us so , more than we could ever imagine. What a wonderful Savior!

It looks as though this discussion is barren so we will till the barren ground to bring some fruit in the coming storms.Remember thy creator in the days of thy youth; but Satan's counsel is to keep children in a state of slavery to sin and to the world. There are those that seek other peoples prayer's but have no mind to pray for themselves.They show there by they have no true love of God,nor any delight in communinon with him.Mathew Henry 1710 oo ooo o o o o ooo Spritual darkness is spiritual blindness,and bondage Satan binds men so they move not toward heaven.o o o o o o o o oo oTL o o o o oThe children of lsrael had light in their dwellings! o o o o o o oo oooo o o As Christians of Jesus Christ we must always keep his light burning away at the darkness of this world.With his word ,and his Holy Spirit ,and his love.So soon to be joined with other's to the one who created the light! And what a day that will be GLORIOUS MERCIFULL FREE!!!

I felt led to tell you personal experience. 1st time I saw something in resemblance of what you said. I was working 110 hours weeks + taking care of small children. Totally sleep deprived. I was driving after leaving work little early, right before sun rose. The freeway was well lit & from median, I saw dark shadow dart across freeway, in front of my vehicle, going aprox.60mph. It really rattled me. I actually watched it trying to figure out what the image was. Fear gripped me, I prayed. I chalked it up to sleep deprivation but even then, that was rattling. I felt in that moment danger. I stopped working as many hours. I may have seen a few more dark shadow creatures during my life, seems to be during dangerous situations.

Here are some scriptures I hope will be helpful.

Ephesians 6:10-18, Hebrews 13:2, 2 Samuel 22:3-20,

1 Chronicles 21:15, Exodus 10:21,

1 Corinthians 13:1-13,

In Exodus 10:1,2 we read: "And the LORD said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh: for I have hardened his heart, and the heart of his servants, that I might shew these my signs before him: And that thou mayest tell in the ears of thy son, and of thy son's son, what things I have wrought in Egypt, and my signs which I have done among them; that ye may know how that I am the LORD."

So in these verses, we are given two reasons why the Lord did what He did to Pharaoh & before Moses. To Pharaoh, that God might show to him that He is indeed the only God of the Universe & that there is none beside him or like him. The Pharaoh was more than just a king in Egypt, he was considered a god or representing the gods. That is why he was so defiant against the True God & even had his sorcerers duplicate many of the miracles that Moses did in God's Power. The Pharaoh took a while to learn this important lesson, but in the end he did - he must have been a humbled, broken man.

And to Moses: that his witness to the Power of the God he served might be told to his fellow Israelites, so that they too may learn to fear & be obedient to the One Who loved them & had their lives in His Hands. As well, to proclaim this news to their succeeding generations. For this reason, the Jews even today commemorate this great deliverance from the clutches of Pharaoh, by celebrating the Feast of the Passover, Exodus chapter 12. This was when the Lord would pass by those houses that had the blood applied to the doorposts of their dwellings but those that didn't do so, would experience the death of their firstborn, whether a person or animal. The Jews faithfully remember this great event & praise God for their deliverance, but to have Christ's blood applied to the 'doorposts' of their hearts, they will refuse. It's so sad that they fail to see the significance of that first deliverance & apply it to their present predicament & God's offer of salvation from death's grip.

Verse 3:Pharaoh's lack of humility was his downfall and if we don't develop the quality of humility we will experience downfall as well.

You're almost correct in your understanding of these verses.

Exodus 10:28: "And Pharaoh said unto him, Get thee from me, take heed to thyself, see my face no more; for in that day thou seest my face thou shalt die." Examining this verse, it appears that Pharaoh is commanding Moses not to appear before him anymore & Moses replies (v29) that he (Moses) will no longer come to Pharaoh.

But in Exodus 12:31: "And he (Pharaoh) called for Moses and Aaron by night, and said, Rise up, and get you forth from among my people, both ye and the children of Israel; and go, serve the LORD, as ye have said." So here, Moses abides by Pharaoh's command to not come before him, but now after this final assault on the Egyptians, it was Pharaoh that called for Moses (& Aaron). So there is no conflict in these verses/directions from Pharaoh: first, he told Moses not to come to him, but did not make it clear that he (Pharaoh) could still summon for Moses to come to him when ordered to do so.

What do you think about these locust stories? Is it a plague?

Jun 12, 2020

What happens when locusts swarm?

Locusts continue to reproduce quickly while swarming. They will consume all the food in any given area and then migrate to seek another food source. locusts can travel over one hundred kilometers in a day, meaning they can cover a lot of area.

"Locusts do not honor political boundaries and can easily invade other adjacent countries," he said.

The locusts move with the wind currents and can go back and forth between different areas. He said the current swarms moved throughout Kenya, Somalia and Ethiopia, and then moved up through Saudi Arabia and Yemen to Iran, Pakistan and India.

Exodus 10:15 - For they covered the face of the whole earth, so that the land was darkened; and they did eat every herb of the land, and all the fruit of the trees which the hail had left: and there remained not any green thing in the trees, or in the herbs of the field, through all the land of Egypt.

Comment: I think it would be a very good thing to pray and ask God to spare USA from anything like this happening here.

I've been kinda concerned since I read a story recently about a million pounds of pork smuggled here, from China. President Trump stopped all shipments of meat from China; last year I think. The meat is contaminated with swine flu. We were buying their cheaper meat; and the Chinese were paying more money to buy our uninfected meat. This was written a month or so ago. I'm giving up BLT's :/ Hope Joe Biden will continue the sanctions?

I was curious if other kinds of plagues were going on besides COVID-19 you know?

Let's all get really serious about praying over our meals ok? "Bless and sanctify these gifts and make it clean to eat".

I care about you guys and gals. We have to lean into Jesus now.

Get your flu shot. It has the H1N1-2 strain that fights swine flu.

Love You, Mishael

You forgot the word 'out' . To bring my People OUT of Egypt.

Verse 3~This shows that arrogance was at the root of the problem with Pharaoh. He refused to humble himself before Jehovah God.

God will do all He says He will.
He has to take us through some storms,to some mountains, over some hills. Across the valleys.
God has to take us through some rough terrain so we can see how marvellous He truly is.

As many times as we've read these chapters; every time is a new and powerful realization of just how great and mighty were these signs! Try to imagine seeing these plagues in real! They are terrifying! Yet because of the way some choose to respond, and "refuse to humble thyself before Me (God);" God hardens their hearts to work out their own foolishness and perversion, unto their destruction.

not only did he wanted them out. he wanted the people of israel not able to come back to Egypt God knew the stiff neck people would try to return to Egypt, NOW WITH All the cures the people of Egypt suffered they would kill them if they tried to do so.

God gave Pharoah powerful incentive to let his people go. He gave sign after sign to show his great power and that Pharoah should acknowledge and obey him.

God purposed for Moses on readiness and preparedness of the tough time he would go through in the wilderness leading Israel to the promised land,

Hello Elizabeth A, that is not the correct writing of that Scripture. Ex. 3:10 says, "Come now therefore, and I will send thee unto Pharaoh, that thou mayest bring forth my people the children of Israel out of Egypt KJV. To stress " my people the children of Israel out of Egypt. God bless us all and also in the understanding of his Word. Glory be to Jehovah in the highest through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen!

Exodus chapter 3vs 10 it says so now go am sending you to bring my people of Egypt Amen.

Powerful messages from our lord "GOD ". Our LORD gives us chances, but always lets us know that GOD IS IN CONTROL.

Well according to me here pharaoh calls Moses and Aaron and said to them I have sinned against the LORD your GOD and you. 1 Pharaoh confess knowing clearly that whatever is happening it 's all about his heart. 2 Pharaoh didn 't believe in GOD of Israel and he knew that he broke GOD 's commandment and he needs the plaque to be over for him to continue sinning against GOD. 3 He was not confessing for hard heart but the LORD to stop the plaque even his so called magicians failed to stop the plaques because there is no other GOD who is greater than our GOD prays be to HIM forever AMEN.