Discuss Exodus 12

  • Ronald Whittemore - 9 months ago
    Traditions,

    Part 1

    Traditions are practices, customs, or rituals that are passed down from generation to generation.

    Truth refers to unbiassed reality, the correct representation of facts, it surpasses personal opinions or feelings.

    Easter Sunday is a holiday celebrated by millions of people around the world who honor the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Easter is also the day that many children excitedly wait for the Easter Bunny to arrive and deliver their treats of baskets filled with chocolate, eggs, and stuffed rabbits.

    Easter is a holiday that is now chosen to correspond with the first Sunday following the first full moon after the spring equinox unless the full moon falls on a Sunday then it would be the next Sunday. Passover is now not considered in selecting the day. The Jewish feast that was the same day Jesus resurrected that most overlook is the Feast of First Fruits even though Jesus is the First Fruits of them that slept.

    There are many myths about Easter, but all come from pagan sun worship and their festivals correspond with the sun's equinoxes. The ascension of Christ and Pentecost has been changed to 40 days from Easter and 50 days from Easter not from the first day after the Sabbath after Passover day.

    Easter was originally called Resurrection Morning which was the Feast of First Fruits, the first day after the sabbath day after Passover during the Feast of unleavened bread, this is the first day in counting the days of the seven sabbaths of the Feasts of Weeks, that has been replaced with traditions of Good Friday, two days in the grave, sunrise services, Ezekiel 8:15-16, bunnies, colored eggs, baskets, pretty hats and dresses.

    Does the Bible tell us what day Jesus was crucified? Yes, Jesus is our Passover and for Him to fulfill the Feasts it would have to be exactly as the first Passover. The lambs were taken up on the 10th and killed on the evening before the sunset on the 14th of Nisan, Exodus 12:1-6.

    See part 2.
  • Ronald Whittemore - 9 months ago
    Traditions part 2

    In John 12:1-16 this is 6 days before Passover and Jesus rides into Jerusalem the next day which would be the 10th, the day the lambs are taken up five days before Passover day which is called today Palm Sunday.

    Each day is recorded in Matthew 21 through Matthew 27:56 Mark 11:1 through Mark 15:41 Luke 19:28 through Luke 23:49 John 12:1 through John 19:37.

    On the 1st day of the week, we call Sunday, Jesus rode into Jerusalem and returned to Bethany in the evening to lodge.

    The second day shows Jesus going to Jerusalem and returning to Bethany.

    The third day is two days before Passover Matthew 26:2 Mark 14:1.

    On the fourth day, Judas makes the deal to betray Jesus and toward the end of the day, the disciples ask him where he wants them to prepare to eat the Passover. God commanded it to be eaten inside the city walls but they did not eat the Passover, Luke 22:15-16.

    When the sun went down the fourth day what we call Wednesday is the beginning of Passover day the 14th of Nisan the day the Passover lambs are killed, Mark 14:12 Luke 22:7. What confuses things is then and now Passover day and the Feast of Unleavened Bread is referred to as an eight-day feast. Passover day is a preparation day for the seven-day feast of Unleavened Bread not part of the seven-day feast.

    The lambs were killed on the 14th in the evening, the time when the sun starts to go down, any time after noon and before the sun sets. The Passover is eaten the night of the 15th the first day of the seven-day feast which is a holy convocation/Sabbath Exodus 12:8 the same night they went out of Egypt not on Passover day.

    The Lord's Supper and the crucifixion were on Passover day the fifth day from when Jesus rode into Jerusalem which would make that the 5th day of the week we call Thursday.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Richard H Priday - 10 months ago
    First Corinthians 5:11 states:

    But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

    I have focused in today's postings on those who are nonbelievers; whether in an openly hostile lifestyle to God's Word; or a person who in their own efforts tries to be good and has the outward appearance of a morally responsible individual.

    Exodus 12:48 states: A foreigner residing among you who wants to celebrate the LORD's Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it.

    (in short no pain no gain)

    Leviticus 17:8-9 shows the rules of sacrificing before God were the same for a foreigner as well as an Israelite.

    These verses are brought out to demonstrate that in the house of God there is no pandering for special interests. In the age of Grace we must accept His sacrificial atonement for our sins; and live accordingly. Just as we can't let the enemy in the camp as a principle in the Old Testament; this verse in Corinthians along with others show that we CANNOT fellowship with those who are sexually immoral; which includes homosexuality; fornication and adultery (and the theme is repeated in 1 Corinthians 6:9). Similar warnings are found in 2 Timothy; Ephesians and 2 Thessalonians and other places. We also need to address the rest of the verse about greedy people or swindlers; and that in many cases involves the Pastor himself. Someone partaking in New Age would be an idolater; and a slanderer could be someone caught up in gossip and believing everything he hears or deliberately lying. Finally; a drunkard which may be the one sin people tend to agree on also needs to repent; but such a person when reformed tends to display the most radical changes of all. We all need to carefully examine our friend
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    RichFairhurst"

    Yes, you are right, truer, for you did an excellent biblical study and got to a true conclusion that is confirmed even by the Word of GOD. According Exodus 12:40-41 the children of Israel dwelt in Egypt 430 years. Paul Apostle says the same in his epistle to the Church of Galatians- Galatians 3:17.

    God bless you, and remain prepared with your lamp(GOD's Word), and oil, (because only lamp is not suffice to meet the Lord JESUS), so that your lamp does not go out in this turn from the sixth to the seventh Day, the Lord's Day, for it's midnight at GOD's clock and the darkness is great and is dangerous. Remember Psalm 91 as a whole, here I highlight verse 5&6 that say: 5 "Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; ... 6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; ...

    Again: GOD bless
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I do understand that God set out the day for the new year in Exodus 12:2.

    It seems that the Jewish calendar eventually became a solar-lunar one with the knowledge of a true orbit of the earth to be 365 days and some part of a day-about 1/4th. The Jewish nation from the exile in Babylon began to use the Babylonian calendar. Julius Caesar began the Roman calendar in 45 B.C. both of these calendars left many days unaccounted for and a need to add months at intervals. The Julian Calendar was revised to a 364 day year, but then this left open one day and 1/4 each year to be made up. The Gregorian calendar was eventually introduced with a 365 day year with a day added to February every 4th year if this day year could be divided by 400.

    The Gregorian calendar became the international calendar eventually although some people groups still kept their own particular calendars such as the Jews, Chinese, Persians, Hindu, etc.

    Genesis 1:14 says that God put the sun, moon, and stars to give light to the earth and to be used for signs, for seasons, for days, and years. So for me, in the beginning, God declared that all these celestial objects were to be used in creating a calendar that aligns with the equinoxes of the seasons. When science was able to calculate the orbit of the earth more accurately a more accurate calendar year could be set forth. The Gregorian calendar requires only the addition of one day every 4 years instead of weeks and months at the end of the year as the Jewish calendar does.

    I find nothing evil or wrong about using a calendar system that most accurately accounts for the days in a year most closely. The Gregorian calendar is such a calendar and keeps the equinoxes in stable positions in the year more than any other calendar used today. It is not perfect, but it works better than any other calendar at this time;

    cont.
  • Ronald Whittemore - 1 year ago
    Did Jesus eat the Passover? Tradition or scripture? Does it matter? For study not to offend.

    Passover Day when the lambs were killed is the 14th of Abib/Nisan. Exodus 12:3-33 Leviticus 23:5 Numbers 33:1-3 Mark 14:12 Luke 22:7

    The 15th of Abib/Nisan is the first day of the 7-day Unleavened Bread Feast, first day and the last day are Sabbath days, it starts at sundown and is when they ate the Passover and after midnight they left Egypt. Numbers 33:1-3 Deuteronomy 16:1-8

    From the Last Supper to the burial, Matt. 26:17-75 Matt. 27:1-61 Mark 14:12-72 Mark 15:1-47 Luke 22:1-71 Luke 23:1-56 John 13:1-38 through John 19:1-42.

    This day started at sunset. On this day we have Jesus and his disciples going into the guest chamber, they ate a meal, Jesus initiated the New Covenant, they sang songs, Jesus washed their feet, and they were there for hours. They went to Gethsemane where Jesus prayed, Judas came with the priests and a band of men and officers,

    They took Jesus to Annias and Caiaphas and was judged. Then early that morning they took Him to Pilate and Herod and back and they said crucify Him. They nailed Jesus to the cross the 3rd hour, 9 AM, Jesus died at the 9th hour, 3 PM, and was put in the tomb, all this in one day, before the sunset, the 14th of Abib/Nisan Passover day.

    In Luke 22:14-16 Jesus told them He was not going to eat this Passover with them. In John 18:28 they would not go in the hall, they would be defiled because they have not eaten the Passover, and later that day they had to catch the blood and put it on the altar.

    The Passover meal was eaten after sunset and before midnight, the 15th of Abib/Nisan, Jesus was in the tomb.

    Jesus was the Passover Lamb and the First and the Last. He was nailed to the cross at the same time the first Tamid Lamb was sacrificed, all the sin sacrifices were put on top and He died at the same time the last Tamid Lamb was sacrificed and put on top.

    Hopefully, this is enough to study.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • TammyC - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I think it's just to eliminate waste because they couldn't save the meat they didn't eat Exodus 12:10 "And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire."

    So if a household was just a man and his wife, roasting an entire lamb for one meal, is wasting a lot of meat. So, they could join with their neighbor and share a lamb. I hope that helps.
  • Trinityrose12 - 1 year ago
    what does Exodus 12:4 mean if your household is too small what was the required amount needed ?
  • GiGi - 1 year ago
    Ruby Lea,

    It looks like the thread you addressed me on has been closed t further comment. So, I will respond with a new thread.

    I am happy to bring Scriptures to this conversation. But before I do, please answer me yes or no: Are you Earl Bowman?

    If you do not answer this question of mine with a yes or a no, then I will know that you are a deceiver.

    As to your inquiry about Psalm 82:1-6 and Jesus' usage of this Psalm in John 10:35. The context of this verse in psalms is a reference to the judges of Israel that were appointed to make judgements for the people when they had a legal matter to bring forward to resolve.

    God, in this Psalm is rebuking these judges (and any leader) because they judged sinfully. They favored those who oppressed and did wickedly and would not defend or uphold the cause of the widows, orphans, and poor, but instead made judgments against these who needed right judgements and mercy. God does not speak of them favorably in this psalm.

    It does say that "ye are gods" and the meaning of this is not that they are truly gods, but those who sit in the place of the only true God when they pass their judgments. Therefore, the only True God expects them to judge with justice and righteouosness, but they did not. They judged sinfully, therefore, this iniquity proves that they are not truly gods.

    The Bible speaks of gods as referring to those that pagans worship. Are these gods truly gods since Scripture calls them such?

    Exodus 12:12 says that God will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. Are these gods real or idols/false gods?

    Exodus 23:13 God says to not invoke the names of their (Israelites) other gods. Were these other gods truly gods or were they false gods/idols?

    Joshua 24:14 God instructs Joshua to tell the Israelites to throw away the gods of their fathers. Were these gods truly gods or were they false gods/idols?

    I could list many more Scriptures where God speaks of other gods, but it is clear they are not gods. Jer. 2:11 ...
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Leviticus 23 - 1 year ago
    Hi GiGi.

    I would hope you take this in love, that you look back at Exodus on your last two post on Leviticus 23. The Passover day is not a sabbath, it is a preparation day for the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread that is the sabbath day, the 15th. Passover day is the 14th of Nisan/Aviv this is the day that Jesus was crucified and the reason they had to put Him in the tomb before the sun went down that would be the 15th a Sabbath day.

    Jesus and His disciples did not eat the Passover meal, Luke 22:15-16. The Jewish day starts at sundown so when Jesus and the disciples went in the room for the last supper, that was the beginning of the Passover day, the 14th the preparation day for the 7-day feast.

    So, the last supper, going into the garden, Judas betrayal, Jesus' arrest, trial, crucifixion. When Jesus died was the same time the Passover lambs were being killed, all on the 14th, Passover day before the sun went down.

    Like in Exodus they killed the lamb on the 14th Exodus 12:6-10 and put the blood on the door posts and had to stay in the house and eat the meal that night that would be the 15th, and could not leave until after midnight, Exodus 12:29,42.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Mblancett. I don't believe there is any verse that gives the phrase you're looking for. I suspect this desire or prayer came about when reading about God's Intervention in the lives of the Israelites when they were prisoners in Egypt. If you read Exodus 12:1-13, you may recall this account when the LORD would pass by every house in Egypt and all the firstborn (humans & animals) dwelling in those houses & property would be killed unless they had the blood of the lamb applied to the doorposts & lintel. Of course, the Israelites obeyed the LORD in this & were spared, but the firstborn of the Egyptians were killed.

    Just as the blood of the lamb was required for Israel to be spared from death, so those 'in Christ' now are spared eternal death in hell, as the Blood of God's Lamb has been shed & applied for us - ever before our Heavenly Father as a memorial of His pardoning & securing our lives through Jesus His Son. Rather than 'covering our property with the Blood of Jesus', it may be better stated that we could, by prayer, consecrate our homes & all in it or all who visit it, for the Lord's keeping, protection, & blessing. That not only our homes, but our lives as well, may always exude the fragrance of Christ Jesus & be a blessing & witness to all who come near.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Louis.

    Here is just a few of many.

    Genesis 3:15. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and ( HER SEED;) it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise ( HIS HEEL.)

    Genesis 22:18.

    Genesis 49:10.

    The Passover Lamb of God ( Exodus 12:1-28)

    Leviticus teaches the way to God is by sacrifice. JESUS!

    Leviticus 17:11. For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

    In the book of Leviticus you see a portrait of Christ and his work on the cross. When studying it.

    It does well to go back and forward to new testament and present Christ. Especially Hebrews, That picture will paint itself.

    Deuteronomy 18:15.

    Psalms 22.

    Isaiah 7:14.

    Isaiah 9:6-7.

    Micah 5:2.

    Daniel 9:25-26.

    Malachi 3:1.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Romans 11 - 2 years ago
    Exodus 12:48,49, Exodus 20:10, Leviticus 16, Leviticus 17,

    Leviticus 18:26, Leviticus 19:33,34,

    John 1:12, Romans 8:14,

    Acts 13:39, Galatians 2:16, Deuteronomy 10:16, Galatians 6:15, Romans 2:25, Romans 4,

    Romans 3:29-30

    Here are just a few, there are many, hopefully these are helpful to your study & decision
  • Alex N - In Reply on Zechariah 13 - 2 years ago
    Dere plz just let me mention this scripture.... Exodus 12:13 back in the old covenant on the Day of Passover....God said when i see the blood i will pass over you....And now under this new covenant in his blood....Jesus is our passover lamb....If God over looked all their sins by the blood of an animal he will surely forgive all of humanity sins by the Blood of Jesus....Our passover lamb

    .....1 ST Cor. 5:7 Christ is our pass over lamb.

    ..... Matthew 26:27 kjv ...When he had taken the cup he said this is my blood of the New Covenant drink ye all of it....

    ......Calvary was a New Covenant in his blood...And its all inclusive....I will KNOW THEM ALL....If i be lifted up i will draw ALL men unto me.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Revelation 3 - 2 years ago
    Dave,

    I'm not sure if your question was about GOD or man. I will try my best to answer it. Ironically " ambiguous " meaning double meaning._._

    I think that GOD's WORD the Bible is clear, when we study, & pray for wisdom. James 1:5,

    1st GOD gave people dominion: Genesis 1:26,27,28, = power, dominion ect. Within 2nd Generation & continued; 1st crime: Genesis 4:6-9, & Genesis 4:23, dominion with disregard for others, even anothers very life. Genesis 6:5, Exodus 1:8,13,16,22, even disregard for life of children

    Even then though GOD doesn't disregard HE repayed. Exodus 12:29, Exodus 13:15, notice the whole chapter of Exodus 12, points to John 3:15,16,17, Again people with dominion & power disregarding life of innocent: Luke 22:1,2,7,20,54,63,64, continued; Luke 23:1,2,15,21,33,34,

    Also: they killed their own children, Leviticus 18:21, Leviticus 20:1-8, that GOD had destroyed nations for that sin! 1Kings 11:7, 2Kings 23:10,

    Jeremiah 32:35, ( how? ) it's unimaginable even to GOD ALMIGHTY ! Jeremiah 7:31, Jeremiah 19:5, 2Chronicles 33:9, 1Kings 11:1-12, Deuteronomy 6:14, Deuteronomy 7:1-8, why? Was it because they destroyed the children, had disregard for innocent lives of their own offspring? Images of GOD

    Psalms 82:6, in context Psalms 82,

    GOD will Judge: Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 18:5,6,10,14, Matthew 19:14, Mark 9:42, Luke 17:2, 2Peter 2:7-9, Psalms 9:7,

    If your question is regarding "us" "believers" Luke 12:32, Revelation 21,

    There will be suffering here on Earth but promises to those who endure, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Revelation 10, 2Timothy 2:3, Revelation 6:9-11,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 8 - 2 years ago
    Hey Giannis,

    Many people call the Passover an eight-day feast, even in Jesus' day. Some say Feast of Unleavened Bread and some feast of Passover. Passover is on the 14th and the Feast of Unleavened Bread is on the 15th -21st. In Matthew 26:17 it starts; Now the first day of the Feast of Unleavened BreadIn Mark 14:12 and in Luke 22:7 Then came the day of Unleavened Bread when the Passover must be killed In John 13:1 Now before the feast of the Passover this was after the Last Supper. The Last Supper was on Passover Day.

    Passover Day is a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread. The first day of the Unleavened Bread Feast is the Sabbath, Exodus 12:16. On the 14th all leaven had to be purged from the houses and Jerusalem. This is the preparation day that is in scripture not Friday the preparation day for the weekly Sabbath.

    John 18:28 confirms the Passover lambs had not yet been sacrificed or eaten because they did not want to be defiled, they passed the blood of the lambs to the altar. This would be done after the sun started going down, any time after noon. This was going on at the same time Jesus was hanging on the cross. The Passover lamb was eaten on the night of the 15th the night they went out of Egypt, Exodus 12:29-32. Jesus was in the tomb when the Passover meal was eaten.

    If Jesus was crucified on Friday, we do not have three days and three nights and there are not that many days covered in Matt, Mark, Luke, and John. If Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, Thursday would be the Sabbath, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, and the women could have gone to the tomb on Friday because it would be a preparation day for the weekly Sabbath, So Thursday would be the only day of the week that fits scripture.

    That gives Thur. day, Fri. night and day, Sat. night and day Sun. night Jesus rose before sunrise, John 20:1 it was still dark.

    I hope this is enough to make sense.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Julie,

    John 19:34 is what you might be looking for. This was not during the resurrection but while He was still on the cross. There is no place in scripture that says they got blood from Jesus during His resurrection.

    John 19:31-37 is the prophecy concerning His (Jesus') bones. John 19:36 is the fulfillment of Psalm 34:20 and Exodus 12:4. And then John 19:37 is the fulfillment of Zechariah 12:10.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Exodus 12:48-49

    "48! And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

    49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you."

    Also Leviticus 19:33-34, Leviticus 24:23, Matthew 23:15 etc
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Jew = tribe of Judah

    Please note: Genesis 29:31-35, Genesis 35:23,

    Genesis 44:18-34, Judah offers to be taken prisoner & suffer for his brother's accused crimes, because of the love he had for his father. Note: John 10:14-42, John 14, John 17, John 3:10-21,

    Note: Exodus 12:35-38, Exodus 12:48, Esther 8:17,

    Genesis 49:1,2,8,9,10,11,12, Genesis 46:12, Luke 3:23-38, Hebrews 7, Hebrews 8:7-13, - Hebrews 9, Matthew 2:1,5,6, Revelation 5:5,

    Notice Genesis 49:10,11,12 = Matthew 21:1-16, Mark 11:1-10, Luke 19:30-46, John 12:11-16, Matthew 26:17-56, Mark 14:1-72, Luke 22:1-20,37,

    Zechariah 13:6, Psalms 22:1,7,8,14,15,16,17,18,30,31, Matthew 27:35,37,41,43,46,51,52,53, Mark 15:3,6,15,20,24,27,28,29,31,32,34,38,

    John 19:11,14,16,18,19,20,23,24,28,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,

    Isaiah 53

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Old Testament law: Deuteronomy 16:16, Exodus 34:23,24, Deuteronomy 31:11, Exodus 23:17, the dates of calendars have changed even the Hebrew / Jewish calendars. Moses through GOD established the beginning of the year to be the Passover, no calendar today honors that. Exodus 12:2, Exodus 12, Numbers 28:16,

    Jesus honored these things, along with His parents (on earth) Luke 2:22,23, Luke 2:41-49, John 4:45, John 5:1, John 10:22,23, even those who opposed Jesus expected Jesus to honor the appointed days : John 11:54-57, John 12, Even facing His own brutal death: Matthew 20:17,18 , Mark 10:32,33,34 do you think HE knew He was the Lamb,: Luke 2:38, Luke 18:31, that was going to be slain for Passover? That's why HE told them, as HE obediently set his face to go? Luke 9:51,

    Matthew 21

    Micah 6:6-8,

    John 4:21-24, 2Corinthians 6:2, 2Colossains 2:16,17, Hebrews 10:1-19, Matthew 18:20,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Bob 'Whosoever', Jn3:16, Rom.10:13 on Exodus 12 - 2 years ago
    vs 32 has always stood out to me, ever since God brought it to my attention many years ago, when Pharaoh said to Moses, " and bless me too!.." :-) I personally don't remember hearing that verse preached or taught on since! " ...how can you bless whom God has cursed ... "? No record of Moses responding to Pharaoh's request!

    kol tuv etc ... (i.e. be well)

    MARANATHA!
  • Daniel - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen! Just reading these verses tells us about what happened back then in Egypt and about the promise of Salvation to come of the New Covenant...

    Exodus 12:13

    "And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt."

    ...when I see the blood, I will pass over you...

    Thank God for sending His Son and covering us with His Blood.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    Psalms 23,

    Rod: Exodus 4:17,

    Job 9:34, Job 21:9, Psalms 2:9, Psalms 89:32, Psalms 125:3, Proverbs 10:13, Proverbs 13:24, Proverbs 22:15, Proverbs 23:13,14, Proverbs 26:3,

    Proverbs 29:15, Isaiah 9:4, Isaiah 10:5, Isaiah 10:15, Isaiah 10:26, Isaiah 11:1,4, Jeremiah 10:16, Revelation 12:25,

    Staff: Genesis 32:10, Genesis 38:18, Exodus 12:17, Exodus 21:19, Leviticus 26:26, Numbers 13:23, Judges 6:21, 2Samuel 3:29, 2Samuel 23:7,21, 2Kings 4:29,31, 2Kings 18:21, Isaiah 3:1, Isaiah 14:5, Isaiah 28:27,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Marke - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I don't believe the Bible ever speaks of leaven as a good thing. Leaven speaks of evil and corruption, which is why the unleavened bread refers to Jesus and Christians.

    Evil persuasion is like leaven: Gal. 5:

    8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.

    9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

    Leaven is compared to malice and wickedness. Unleavened is compared to sincerity and truth.

    1 Corinthians 5:8

    Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

    Christians are not old leaven in sin but unleavened in righteousness.

    1 Corinthians 5:7

    Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

    Leaven is compared to evil doctrines and evil dogmas.

    Mark 8:15

    And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.

    Leaven is corruption and God forbid the Jews from offering corruption in their Sabbath observences.

    Exodus 12:19

    Seven days shall there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever eateth that which is leavened, even that soul shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he be a stranger, or born in the land.
  • WHY UNLEAVENED BREAD - In Reply - 2 years ago
    God picked Israel to be His peculiar people and shower His love on them. We don't know why now, but someday we will know. He asks us to pray for them and we do. We don't know why. He is the Creator. He doesn't load us up with a huge DO LIST every day. Just small requests. We need you to make contributions of your knowledge of what God is showing you, too.

    Genesis 19:3

    And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

    Exodus 12:8

    And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.

    Exodus 12:17

    And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever.

    Exodus 12:20

    Ye shall eat nothing leavened; in all your habitations shall ye eat unleavened bread.

    [note: LEAVEN is flour with yeast in it. The kind we like most]. There are 50 scriptures on unleavened bread.

    Mishael
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 11 - 2 years ago
    Genesis 14:18,

    Genesis 15:13,14, two Generations & 400 years, + 30 years later : Exodus 12:40,41, then the Laws were given to Moses, Exodus 28, Exodus 25,

    Psalms 110:4,

    Hebrews 5, Hebrews 6, Hebrews 7,

    Helpful I hope
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    2Peter 3:8, Psalms 90:4,

    Genesis 7:11, Exodus 12:1,2,

    Matthew 1:17,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Mishael - In Reply - 2 years ago
    BECAUSE IT SAYS: the Firstborn OF Pharaoh

    Exodus 11:5 View whole chapter

    And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts.

    Exodus 12:29 View whole chapter

    And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

    Exodus 13:15 View whole chapter

    And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem.

    Numbers 3:13 View whole chapter

    Because all the firstborn are mine; for on the day that I smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt I hallowed unto me all the firstborn in Israel, both man and beast: mine shall they be: I am the LORD.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Alex, you quoted 1 Corinthians 15:19. You seem to pick a verse & then apply it to support your belief. Please think again & re-read the passage. Paul is talking about Christians - that they should have their hope set in Christ now & in the promised resurrection. You're applying the verse to all people (saved & lost) which is a wrong understanding & application.

    Exodus 12:27. From this verse, you write that "God accepts everybody simply b/c of the Blood of the Lamb". God "passed over" only those who obeyed God & placed the blood on their doorposts & lintels. The Egyptians suffered because they didn't have the blood there. We have the Blood of Christ upon us & as testimony before the Father & so have "passed from death to life". All who reject the Gospel are like the Egyptians, not having the Blood, & the Lord will not hold them guiltless.

    Romans 8:38,39. Paul is writing about Christians being totally secure in Christ - not that unbelievers will be secured by God even in judgement. You can't apply verses speaking about believers & then force them to apply to the unsaved.

    All the Scriptures you've given with your peculiar interpretation are completely flawed. Please read them in the context that they're given & not what you want to them to say.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Dan. The portion you read in Exodus 12, was not for a regular sacrifice (as made for sins), but "a sacrifice for the LORD's passover" ( Exodus 12:27). This sacrifice wasn't executed by the priests, but by each Israelite family in bondage in Egypt, so that the blood of the sacrifice would be seen by the LORD when He 'passed over (by) them', so that none of their firstborn would be killed. The blood would be applied to the doorposts & lintel & they would then eat the meat of the sacrifice that same night.

    As far as why allow both a lamb from the sheep or goats as sacrifice, my sense is that if there was a shortage of sheep or that a family couldn't obtain one, then a goat would suffice as a substitute. However, both animals would still need to meet the strict criteria of being in the first year of age & without any blemish.


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